Great panel. So knowledegable, appropriate in their presentation (not laughing and cracking weird jokes about the story), and speaking at a pace that regular folks can follow easily. Thank you. Great work.
My husband who is an engineer said that it is reasonable that LISK’s house is in disarray. 1. As an architect, LISK is good at drawings and plans, not necessarily hands-on repairs and construction. 2. Builders would be digging around in areas where he wouldn’t want strangers to look.
Love ur guests.The lady ...Mac with that beautiful accent.....I could listen to her for hours....even if she was just reading the newspaper.Mac has to be one of the smartest people ,I have had the pleasure of listening to.She is brilliant.
I completely agree with Sarah. There was a shift in humanity coming out of the pandemic. People did not seem to be the same. They seemed angry, focused on themselves and very rude
Mainstream Media is hell bent on getting the 99% to hate each other.....lest we unite.....and rise up as one....against tyranny. Mainstream Groupthinkers are dragging us backwards.
Replay crew. I’m a stay at home mom and I look forward to my evenings after bedtime (5 year old and 2.5 year old boys) to relax and learn many things. Tonight was such a GREAT video! Thank you for being on here to help me decompress from my day. I am always excited for the next live
We had our first mall shooting at West Edmonton mall in Alberta yesterday. What sucks is that our PM passed a bill that now makes us not be able to get news from the mainstream media so not many people know about it. To many regulations don't help us.
I’ve watched John Douglas (I think is his name? FBI profiler) His premise is that Rex’s burlap covered victims are very different from the victims who were dismembered. Suggesting more than one killer.
According to rumors there is a group of serial killers who does snuff films with vulnerable girls. Rex was one of them, there's rumors also that Police officers are involved and one influencial one. For me The Shannon Gilbert case is fundamental to resolve this huge case
I think BTK summed it up three or four weeks ago when he said Rex is a clone of himself Who best to know a serial killer than a serial killer bind torture, kill, case closed BTK’s daughter said that that’s exactly what her dad said of Rex Pretty disturbing
During Rex's formative years, the long Island torso killer was at the peak of his murderous rampage which suggest that this deviant was Rex's idol because the choice of the torso victims mirror Rex's choices. In 1981, a 7 year old girl disappeared and during the search a male identifiying as SAL called and taunted the mom to meet him at PENN station so that they will go and have video taped sex in return for the girl's release. There are 472 train stations and SAL chose PENN station. What are the odds. Is SAL actually REX which shows that Rex was a danger at the young age of 18 years old.
We want to think he killed them all....so it will now end with cases closed.....Legalized prostitution would increase safety because the women would call police without fear of arrest.......
The leather strapping that had the letters WH embossed into the End of the leather strap did not have a buckle attached. From what I have read and heard it is Not the size of a man’s belt, it is longer, possibly like horse straps. WH are initials of his grandfather.
Another killer show!! No pun intended. With the recent scandalous arrest of the disgraced former Suffolk county detective, James Burke, should we add one more suspect? This guy is a piece of work!!
I believe they found out the identity of peaches and the toddler. However, they have not publicly released it. I don't remember where I heard or read that....
Ok...I did a little Google search, and apparently, last October, the FBI released questions about a man who died in Mobile, Alabama, to the public. The FBI wanted any family or friends of that man to reach out to them. Along with those questions, they also attached the picture of the peaches tattoo. Therefore, it seems as though there is a familial connection between peaches and that man. The man is Elijah Howell/Howard, who died in '63.
I think Mac is on to something. What we perceive to be the “MO” (I.e. weapon, containment, materials, etc.) may not necessarily be the killer’s mo. The mo could very well be the positioning of the bodies and the anger at decreasing property value, especially since his job is his identity per TH-cam interview video.
The victims, who were all young petite women, were perhaps chosen by the accused serial killer because these women of around 145 cm were a form of replacement for the "children" that the accused actually searched for on porn sites. The Accused serial killer Rex Heurtmann probably chose prostitutes because it was very easy for him to get a date with them, like the date he had with former prostitute Nikki Bras in 2015. One way or another, his wife Asa Ellerup must have was aware that her spouse had contact with prostitutes, most of all because the accused has spent a fortune on the purchase of prostitutes over several decades. He also had a tinder profile where he probably dated countless young women, paid for expensive dinners and spent a large part of his salary on the company of young women as a form of sugar daddy arrangement. He has needed attention, admiration and status by being seen with beautiful young women on dates and also at his company in Manhattan. Perhaps he divides women into “a Madonna type or a Hore type” and therefore he can treat one group of women with dignity and the other group of women with scorn, violence, torture, killing ?
I still think his age can be part of the change in MO. He was much younger and stronger in the 1980's and 1990's. Tina Elizabeth Foglia comes to mind in West Islip Long island and her remains dismembered and dispersed in bags and dropped off
I definitely think REX could be responsible for ALL the bodies on the beach. Maybe he realized dismemberment wasn’t his fancy or that it just took to long. But one I do feel strongly about is that they’re going to find a lot more victims connected to him!!😈😈
dismemberment is 1) super messy/smelly, hard work. 2) super risky, body fluids hang around for decades. 3) classed as Overkill, not only killing them but reducing them to mush, the ultimate in victim blaming.
Imagine if you thought your John was a Celebrity, like Ashton Kutcher or Bruce Willis, or a royal, you would treat them differently to regular working class Johns.
exactly mac!! the divorce. I would have visited my husband at least to find out his side of the story if it was such a 'surprise' but i know that she knew....her DNA was found on 3 victims!!! plus how is gonna carry a human body out of the car I have heard other reports to say the land is extememly soft so i think she helped dispose of the bodies as well. it was a team effort and i think the wife should be investigated and the brother. a very fishy family Fred west, rose west???
I think the grandpa taught him. Being his dad died when he was young. Maybe Grandpa was a serial killer, too. Along with the brother. That's my thoughts.
Wondering if Cheryl feels that even serial killers tend to take some lazy short cuts. For example, taking bodies to same place… same manner. Not being creative V performing ritualistic behavior?
I don’t think it was laziness, I think he felt it was a safe place and near by for him to drive by for dupers delight. The four Gilgo girls were line-up 1/10th of a mile apart from each other. He would know from his odometer and landmarks were they were buried.
@@dianealarcon8304 I recall that fact. Pacing them out if done on foot as alluded to according to woman who had been on date w him. Choosing smaller victims to carry that far in the burlap... duck hunting boots worn most likely too. I just know from interactions w many criminals that they admittedly, out of laziness, did certain things during or after crime. Convenience. Has made me curious about ritual v ease/laziness. Also probably depends on offender's offense.
@@timothyfreeseha4056 one of those things I'd ponder when interacting w those who chose life of crime. Found it interesting how some here in Detroit felt need to tell me to keep my home's shrubs kept. Saying over growth w front porch light being on, both sides to their car jackings or choice of abduction victims for robbery or assault of various nature. They were medicated, having lived through critical condition then off life support feeling the "need" to appear to want to pay me back w staying safe tips. I took a truck and ripped large shrubs out of my first home after that. Lol
Let's asume that R.H. killed many more ( New Jersey , S C , Nevada or even in other states ) , could it be physically / timewise be possible ??? I doubt hat his wife could have been traveling so often - or does it maybe occur in between his two marriages ?
Why do people assume Asa was home without hard evidence,? Just don’t get it, apparently she is going thru rough times in aftermath, let LE solve everything, ever think she might be completely innocent?
Burlap would keep the vultures off the bodies....lots of vultures on a body can alert to a corpse....other wild animals can drag a body out to a road....
I'm different than others here in the sense that I believe most perpetrators were victimized or are victimized, even as they commit their crimes. For that reasoning, I do not disregard the possibility of Asa turning away- denying, her husband's actions, or even the possibility that she has assisted him. It is not black and white, and she could most certainly be yet another victim of Rex H. While assisting him in his criminal behavior. Or not! For all we know, Rex was seriously abused as a child. And, then- finally- tho unlikely, he may not be guilty of half of what he is accused of. Victim and perpetrator can be the same person.
Smart, smart lady on this panel. She's a creative thinker and passionate in her work. Bravo.
Dear Joel thanks for hosting another amazing show, so educational, so respectful, so victim-focused.
Another 5 star panel! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
So nice to listen to intelligent, no-nonsense interchange of dialogue from professionals, on this case!! Love this channel!! Best guests always!!
Great panel. So knowledegable, appropriate in their presentation (not laughing and cracking weird jokes about the story), and speaking at a pace that regular folks can follow easily. Thank you. Great work.
My husband who is an engineer said that it is reasonable that LISK’s house is in disarray. 1. As an architect, LISK is good at drawings and plans, not necessarily hands-on repairs and construction. 2. Builders would be digging around in areas where he wouldn’t want strangers to look.
Great point by Scott Duffy Burke access to all the evidence. Defense is dancing in the streets according to MAC.
Joe Scott Morgan, LOVE LOVE LOVE his voice and podcast.
Wow! Look at this panel ☺️
As always, the greatest show with the greatest guest! A can’t miss appointment to get the facts
Love ur guests.The lady ...Mac with that beautiful accent.....I could listen to her for hours....even if she was just reading the newspaper.Mac has to be one of the smartest people ,I have had the pleasure of listening to.She is brilliant.
Amazing panel. The best guests isn’t just the tagline for sure.
I completely agree with Sarah. There was a shift in humanity coming out of the pandemic. People did not seem to be the same. They seemed angry, focused on themselves and very rude
Yes! I wish people would just be kind.
Mainstream Media is hell bent on getting the 99% to hate each other.....lest we unite.....and rise up as one....against tyranny. Mainstream Groupthinkers are dragging us backwards.
Sheryl’s sleuthing brains are phenomenal! I always hang onto every word she says. Great panel, once again!
Best guests and best accents! Love this panel. You too, Joel!
This is just too weird. That Chief P.D. involved in this case. It's like a noir movie script.
It will probably get weirder & weirder, until it is just plain dismal.
Such a great discussion! Thanks Joel & Joe, Mack & Scott.
Mack is EVERYTHING. Please have her on again!
Great panel Joel. Great show!
Love these 3! Glad to see Joseph Scott Morgan back!
You always have the best guest !!
Mac is back ❤
Excellent panel!
Replay crew. I’m a stay at home mom and I look forward to my evenings after bedtime (5 year old and 2.5 year old boys) to relax and learn many things. Tonight was such a GREAT video! Thank you for being on here to help me decompress from my day. I am always excited for the next live
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
Great show and panel. It seems like people are getting greedier and lazier about getting out of their relationships. 😢
Listening for the second time! Love these guests! Joel, you are awesome!
I'm sorry I missed the live. What a great panel! Thanks, Joel.
I really enjoyed this stream Joel. Amazing guests and ty to the mods. ❤
I understand investigators cannot enter RH’s dna into CODIS unless there is a guilty verdict, but can Nevada or SC do so?
Great show! MAC is amazing. Hope she comes back on again!!!! Always love Joe Scott Morgan and Scott😊. Great questions Joel😊❤🇨🇦
Love your podcasts !
Joeseph Scott! Love that podcast !!!
We had our first mall shooting at West Edmonton mall in Alberta yesterday. What sucks is that our PM passed a bill that now makes us not be able to get news from the mainstream media so not many people know about it. To many regulations don't help us.
that's right! re:the belt sort of reminds me of his personal home situation 'we had no idea!'
I’ve watched John Douglas (I think is his name? FBI profiler) His premise is that Rex’s burlap covered victims are very different from the victims who were dismembered. Suggesting more than one killer.
It makes sense.
According to rumors there is a group of serial killers who does snuff films with vulnerable girls.
Rex was one of them, there's rumors also that Police officers are involved and one influencial one.
For me The Shannon Gilbert case is fundamental to resolve this huge case
STS Nation has the best guests & Joel you are an excellent interviewer!!!
I love, Mac
She's the best you right. 😊
Great 🎉 show
great show...Mac sounds just like Kathy Bates playing Jo Bennett in The Office
I think BTK summed it up three or four weeks ago when he said Rex is a clone of himself
Who best to know a serial killer than a serial killer bind torture, kill, case closed
BTK’s daughter said that that’s exactly what her dad said of Rex
Pretty disturbing
During Rex's formative years, the long Island torso killer was at the peak of his murderous rampage which suggest that this deviant was Rex's idol because the choice of the torso victims mirror Rex's choices. In 1981, a 7 year old girl disappeared and during the search a male identifiying as SAL called and taunted the mom to meet him at PENN station so that they will go and have video taped sex in return for the girl's release. There are 472 train stations and SAL chose PENN station. What are the odds. Is SAL actually REX which shows that Rex was a danger at the young age of 18 years old.
We want to think he killed them all....so it will now end with cases closed.....Legalized prostitution would increase safety because the women would call police without fear of arrest.......
Awe Scott’s back!🫶
If the belt was a "family heirloom" why would you use it to wrap up a murder victim? And then leave it behind?
The leather strapping that had the letters WH embossed into the End of the leather strap did not have a buckle attached.
From what I have read and heard it is Not the size of a man’s belt, it is longer, possibly like horse straps.
WH are initials of his grandfather.
Joel dragging the trolls I’m here for it 😂❤
Another killer show!! No pun intended. With the recent scandalous arrest of the disgraced former Suffolk county detective, James Burke, should we add one more suspect? This guy is a piece of work!!
He was the chief police, it's even worse. I hope they investigate him throughly.
❤ JoScott n Mac nuff said ...nobody better❤
I must say, the look on his face, Rex Huerman just tells you. Its terrifying
I believe they found out the identity of peaches and the toddler. However, they have not publicly released it. I don't remember where I heard or read that....
I thought I saw a picture of them also.
Ok...I did a little Google search, and apparently, last October, the FBI released questions about a man who died in Mobile, Alabama, to the public. The FBI wanted any family or friends of that man to reach out to them. Along with those questions, they also attached the picture of the peaches tattoo. Therefore, it seems as though there is a familial connection between peaches and that man. The man is Elijah Howell/Howard, who died in '63.
Excellent the DNA advances
Three named Scott is a relative youtube rarity these days and a good get. Well done all. Thank you.
Sheryl is awesome!
I think Mac is on to something. What we perceive to be the “MO” (I.e. weapon, containment, materials, etc.) may not necessarily be the killer’s mo. The mo could very well be the positioning of the bodies and the anger at decreasing property value, especially since his job is his identity per TH-cam interview video.
Jesus her accent is soo bloomin dreamy . Could listen all day ❤
It took me way too long to figure out what the comment meant about revolting language 😂
The victims, who were all young petite women, were perhaps chosen by the accused serial killer because these women of around 145 cm were a form of replacement for the "children" that the accused actually searched for on porn sites. The Accused serial killer Rex Heurtmann probably chose prostitutes because it was very easy for him to get a date with them, like the date he had with former prostitute Nikki Bras in 2015. One way or another, his wife Asa Ellerup must have was aware that her spouse had contact with prostitutes, most of all because the accused has spent a fortune on the purchase of prostitutes over several decades. He also had a tinder profile where he probably dated countless young women, paid for expensive dinners and spent a large part of his salary on the company of young women as a form of sugar daddy arrangement. He has needed attention, admiration and status by being seen with beautiful young women on dates and also at his company in Manhattan. Perhaps he divides women into “a Madonna type or a Hore type” and therefore he can treat one group of women with dignity and the other group of women with scorn, violence, torture, killing ?
What is Mac’s channel?
Zone 7 podcast. She’s a Baller!!
Can there be victims in Iceland?
That belt is very unique.
Somehow the burlap shows the women are soiled doves - hunted and properly hidden as game. Ugly thought. Too much TV, I guess.
How can than relate perp DNA to suspect in desert if them 10:02 victims are decomposed?
I still think his age can be part of the change in MO. He was much younger and stronger in the 1980's and 1990's. Tina Elizabeth Foglia comes to mind in West Islip Long island and her remains dismembered and dispersed in bags and dropped off
I wish Scott ran the Delphi investigation so the key suspect who put himself at the scene didn’t “ get misfiled” for 6 years !
Eastbound strangler. facing them east to where he came from.
Interesting!
I wonder if Rex looks up to see Trump & Chief of police in the jail cell. Famous county jail.
I definitely think REX could be responsible for ALL the bodies on the beach. Maybe he realized dismemberment wasn’t his fancy or that it just took to long. But one I do feel strongly about is that they’re going to find a lot more victims connected to him!!😈😈
dismemberment is 1) super messy/smelly, hard work. 2) super risky, body fluids hang around for decades. 3) classed as Overkill, not only killing them but reducing them to mush, the ultimate in victim blaming.
How was able to get the girls to leave behind their phones?
murder
Imagine if you thought your John was a Celebrity, like Ashton Kutcher or Bruce Willis, or a royal, you would treat them differently to regular working class Johns.
WHY IS THAT LADY HAVE HER "POSE WITH HER FINGER WEIRD SHE MENTIONED IT "
Why don't you put Sheryls full name on like you do with the men?
exactly mac!! the divorce. I would have visited my husband at least to find out his side of the story if it was such a 'surprise' but i know that she knew....her DNA was found on 3 victims!!! plus how is gonna carry a human body out of the car I have heard other reports to say the land is extememly soft so i think she helped dispose of the bodies as well. it was a team effort and i think the wife should be investigated and the brother. a very fishy family
Fred west, rose west???
Could you find 3 people with better voices? Nope, you can't, this is them.
I think the grandpa taught him. Being his dad died when he was young. Maybe Grandpa was a serial killer, too. Along with the brother. That's my thoughts.
Killer has never used a shovel in his life.
Digging holes is beneath him.
He's not a manual labourer.
He's lazy.
Heuermann’s DNA results should be back soon. Hopefully we will get more answers. There maybe answers that we will never have.
The arrest of the chief may be a gift to prosecutors if his DNA can be obtained and he can be ruled out.
Wondering if Cheryl feels that even serial killers tend to take some lazy short cuts. For example, taking bodies to same place… same manner. Not being creative V performing ritualistic behavior?
Good observation.
I don’t think it was laziness, I think he felt it was a safe place and near by for him to drive by for dupers delight. The four Gilgo girls were line-up 1/10th of a mile apart from each other. He would know from his odometer and landmarks were they were buried.
@@dianealarcon8304 so not laziness, efficiency. Also possible.
@@dianealarcon8304 I recall that fact. Pacing them out if done on foot as alluded to according to woman who had been on date w him. Choosing smaller victims to carry that far in the burlap... duck hunting boots worn most likely too. I just know from interactions w many criminals that they admittedly, out of laziness, did certain things during or after crime. Convenience. Has made me curious about ritual v ease/laziness. Also probably depends on offender's offense.
@@timothyfreeseha4056 one of those things I'd ponder when interacting w those who chose life of crime. Found it interesting how some here in Detroit felt need to tell me to keep my home's shrubs kept. Saying over growth w front porch light being on, both sides to their car jackings or choice of abduction victims for robbery or assault of various nature. They were medicated, having lived through critical condition then off life support feeling the "need" to appear to want to pay me back w staying safe tips. I took a truck and ripped large shrubs out of my first home after that. Lol
I think it's always been this way but technology is showing up exactly what's happening.
Scott Duffey I would love to have you read bedtime stories to me. Beautiful and soothing voice ❤
He bought his victims a burner phone thats
Why the victims left their phones home
No Fil.....I'm staying!
Let's asume that R.H. killed many more ( New Jersey , S C , Nevada or even in other states ) , could it be physically / timewise be possible ??? I doubt hat his wife could have been traveling so often - or does it maybe occur in between his two marriages ?
Very interesting, do you think wife hairs would show exactly where victim sat in car for instance?
Why do people assume Asa was home without hard evidence,? Just don’t get it, apparently she is going thru rough times in aftermath, let LE solve everything, ever think she might be completely innocent?
HE IS TRYING TO THROW YOU OFF THE TRACK I THINK
I respect all of you so much!
The wife and brother knew
Burlap would keep the vultures off the bodies....lots of vultures on a body can alert to a corpse....other wild animals can drag a body out to a road....
Too many commercial! Forget it!
I'm different than others here in the sense that I believe most perpetrators were victimized or are victimized, even as they commit their crimes. For that reasoning, I do not disregard the possibility of Asa turning away- denying, her husband's actions, or even the possibility that she has assisted him. It is not black and white, and she could most certainly be yet another victim of Rex H. While assisting him in his criminal behavior. Or not! For all we know, Rex was seriously abused as a child. And, then- finally- tho unlikely, he may not be guilty of half of what he is accused of. Victim and perpetrator can be the same person.
If he’s a duck hunter, and used the burlap for duckhunting, would he really be duckhunting in Las Vegas?
Aside from duck hunting he has spoken to co-workers about hunting for deer and bear.
In Vegas, He may have been hunting something else?
@@dianealarcon8304 Thank you!
Idk, I think some can live a double life easily. They good at it.
You know you’re getting old when you have to look up sex worker slang on Urban dictionary.. 🙄
I thought the Judge said the DNA could not be sent around, but used for this case only.
The DNA can’t be put into the McIntyre but can be sent to different law enforcement by request.
Ncic
Lego land w bodies
Sick o
What an incredible group of experts! 🤍