Is Modern Art Schizophrenic? | Psychology of the Left Hemisphere
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- In this video I ask the question: is modern art schizophrenic? & if so is it because we live in a world dominated by left hemisphere apprehension?
through psychological development and evolution as a species we have developed an over reliance for the left hemisphere and its modes of apprehension towards the world (most predominately in the west) and how this way of understanding the world mirrors the phenomenology of schizophrenia, by observing its relative symptoms and its induced experiences which are dominated mostly through the left hemisphere we can analyse the progression of art through modernism and post modernism to provide adequate evidence for such a theory using the relative scientific literature by analysing art forms such as: cubism, pointillism, dadaism, abstract art, minimalism, absurdism and surrealism.
Artists I mention: Picasso, Kazimir Malevich, Egon Schiele, Stanley Spencer Tristan Tzara, Clement Greenberg
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Most of this video references the work of:
psychiatrist Iain McGilchrist and his book: The Master & His Emissary
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psychologist Louis Sass and his book: Madness & Modernism
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If you see art as having a purpose beyond art for arts sake, and define at least a part of this purpose as provoking reflection and deeper thought, in relation to the art itself, and the context of its creation, then having your house filled with Soviet art makes perfect sense for someone like Peterson, as it would have assisted in focusing his mind on the main questions he was trying to answer, regarding the psychological foundation for the rise of totalitarian regimes. Especially if you subsribe to the idea that art reflects the psychology of the times it is produced in to some degree (though of course also often personal apsects of the individual who creates it). Preferably it does so in a constructive / creative manner, which was obviously not the case for propaganda art, since it simply serves to strengthen the ideology it represents, but nevertheless it harbors insight into the the ideas and archetypes which led to its creation.
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I’m almost done reading The Master and His Emissary, and I think you articulated McGilchrist’s ideas incredibly well! Here’s an idea that you might appreciate:
McGilchrist shows in several ways that each hemisphere is capable of having an autonomous will... what if the driving force, or “will center” of the left hemisphere is dictated, or at least highly influenced, by Jung’s notion of the Ego, whereas the “will center” of the right hemisphere is the essentially the Self? To me, there seem to be many correlations between each of these pairs, such as their likely evolutionary origins, affects on phenomenology, and their relationship with one another. Perhaps the Self is the master of the egoic emissary, which has become too independent, or in Erich Neumann’s terms, “overdifferentiated.” Enjoy this food for thought, and thank you for your work!
Hey. Would you care to elaborate on more foundings you‘ve found relating this theory? So you‘re saying the dominant (70% of times but not always, speech-focused) hemisphere relates to an egoic will centre and the non-dominant hemisphere (more focused on visual & spatial perception / orientation) is a non-egoic, unitive mode of perception? Relating to the Jungian concept of ‚Self‘ or McGilchrist‘s ‚Master‘. Is the non-dominant (statistically right) hemisphere more focused on an abstract and undifferentiated reality, the moment and the presence of reality as such? Or is it rather a mediator that paves and constructs a sequential way for the emissary? Cause in my awareness, both of these hemispheres are aware of the non duality of reality. It can‘t just be one
Weber: disechanted world. Berger: homeless mind, Sacred canopy meanings, Anomie. Giddens: disembeded mechanisms.
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This was a really clear, well constructed and engaging video . Thank you for posting this :)
I had a psychosis for about a month... afterwards I became completely obsessed by this idea "context." I knew I was acting rationally the entire time, given the bizarre circumstances (context) I'd been placed in. I was also aware it was what is commonly labeled insane behavior (but our cultures have some pretty insane behaviors, so that's no standard to go by imo!) Anyone else would've done the same under the circumstances. Anyway, I recently was able to find my context (I think meaning is pretty much entirely dependent on context...our lack of a perspective that provides a cohesive context is the reason for our nihilism.) I'm kind of reluctant to share my strategy because it is completely insane by our moral standards (suffering is bad) and I dont think anyone would find it meaningful unless they experience it firsthand.... but it is completely relevant to this video (I will not spend so much time to explain supporting details because I dont have hours, so youll have to use your imagination. also this is the internet so of course youll find crackpot ppl, what were you expecting? :)) We use so many metaphors, figures of speech in everyday language but we don't really pause to think about what they mean... imo these metaphors have become linkages to our unconscious. we've become alienated even from our own language. We should live life as if watching a film embedded with lots of symbolism. I think this is kind of like embracing Heidegger 's World Picture. Start to keep track of the recurring symbols in your life and what they could mean. If I expect to get meaning out of art, to make life meaningful would be to view it as art. Technology will end up providing us a way to view life as art (when it is recorded we perceive it differently, it becomes part of the world picture). Using the artist's gaze, we become simultaneously detached and involved... suffering becomes beautiful but stays painful... it moves us to act. I think everyone is an artist but most have been convinced they are not. And Gandhi's "my life is my message" applies to everyone, everyone is their artist's complex expression of the current human condition....they act out their own blindness and longing for sight via a neurotic addiction to technology...these artists slave over their work! (this is just one interpretation) My suffering *moves* me. Powerful stuff! This has been the most freeing perspective for me. There is no such thing as bad art! Art is ambiguous. To think art is bad just means you haven't developed a taste for it yet... luckily all tastes can be acquired! (Maybe the most creative aspect of art is the interpretation of it by the viewer). Everything everyone does represents the human condition (maybe because we're all human?), and once you start getting more in touch with your own humanity and your accidental artistry (both the good and the bad), everything and everyone becomes saturated in meaning and natural beauty. Life can be enjoyed TODAY, amidst the chaos.... the only thing is this perspective takes constant effort... but I'm trying to make it a habit with practicing. We're mostly still in the momentum of our ancestors' fear driven "eat or be eaten" mindset. The double edged sword of technology is that it will be used for destruction, but that destruction will also be recorded and converted to art via the technology. Someday the destruction/art will become so unbearably *moving*, that we'll be jolted awake by it! (I have to admit of all the fears I have been able to shed, of course I'm still afraid to die, even though I know even death is beautiful in art...this is kind of a difficult fear to get over... but maybe my character arc is not done yet!)
Those unconscious collocations and metaphors become super conscious and interesting to take up in contemplation when you learn a second language. Thanks for your thoughtful post! Chew on 'phatic expressions' while you're at it - the phrases we say that set a comfortable field of cohesion of feeling between two strangers almost completely divorced from their literal meaning. Like saying 'how are you?' to the cashier at the circle K. It may not really mean that we care specifically about what we asked, but it does mean something.
@@manuscrit5884 yes, "how are you" always irked me. If you reply anything other than "good" or at least "ok" or something similar the other person would surely be caught off guard. At the moment I am interested in little images such as "first thing in the morning, I splash some cold water on my face. the shock of the cold water helps to wake me up." The meaning of "shock" combined with "water" makes me think of electrocution, or maybe also coming to life. How do scientists think life was started on earth, isnt the theory something about pools of water getting zapped by lightning to form more complex molecules? and the idea of "wakefulness" resulting from the shock of water seems kind of odd. consciousness seems to have something to do with the combination of electricity and water-based matter. my creative/intuitive mind wants to say that it isnt purely just the physical sensation of the water that makes you feel awake in the morning, it is a type of deeper symbolic physical memory (or maybe the physical sensation and the "symbolic physical memory" I'm thinking of are actually the same thing). I'm in love with the symbolic imagery we use regularly but pass right by. "something lit a fire under my ass"...."she stormed in"...."he snapped"...."I started cracking up"....etc.
Good pov. I shall recommend you to take a listen at (there are numerous and quite different albums) Swans, Michael Gira knows a thing or two about the human condition and art as a salvation to this beautiful tragedy. Edit: the albums aren't quite different, they actually have a chasm of difference between them.
@@DailyBach That reminds me of the diving reflex, splashing cold water in your face induces physiological changes.
Thanks, insightful take on the topic. It'd be interesting to follow up with how modern music relates to the left hemisphere.
real props for the video. I found it really interesting and i appreciate your knowledge and connections that you've made.
Thanks! 😊
Don't totally agree with all your points here but the general theory seems really interesting. Thank you.
super interesting, great stuff 👏🏻
Thanks for your post.
It was refreshing to see a point of view, that although I do not agree in most part, it has dedication and investigation. And for that makes me think more deeply into my own ideas about reality, art and myself.
For some points I can not agree on the first being the left/rigth side dualism, as for my understanding of the current knowledge, there is no such thing. While there are in fact areas of the brain that are more affected to some expertise, the plasticity of the brain will distribute the processes where needed independently of the side of the brain. That is an old misconception that with new knowledge has been debunked.
Another is the separation of the arts, talking about art in general but specifically target painting is a fairly common behavior. But art can be recorded in all conceivable manners, shapes and media. So if to talk about art we should look in the broad spectrum of it's existence. Modern art was expressed in music, painting, dance, architecture, film, photography, science, food, design and a long etc.
Another point is the constant application of conservative beliefs, making the before better than the now. In the example of nazism and the violence brought about: independently of the technology used, war for power using populist rethoric was not new. Human were killing themselves in war since the beginning of time. The fear that leads to the tribalistic diminishing of the other into a thing to be destroyed is almoust rooted into our DNA. Will we think that the acts of alexander the great where something other than horrific? We can't blame modernist ideas on those can we?
Also the speech tends to a normalization of the self into a conceived ideal of what a human should be, behave and create. The speech takes a very narrow/ black and white perspective of the times. Let's not forget about the greater amount of people who could access to art studies, the greater amount of information and it's speed due to new communication technics. The larger number of people who could afford to buy art, and it's availability.
That all makes for a much greater number of experimentation, for the sheer number of people working on the different media, and also the large amount of people with different tastes to consume.
That immense progress in art came about at the same time as so much other progress in all fields of human knowledge. If we continued tied to the past, I would be not able to write this to you.
Also agriculture was always a commodity in human economics as it is thought of as being a medium to increase human comfort.
Of course please take this commentary with a grain of salt. Other than architecture (my artistic medium of choice) I am not a specialist in economics, physics or neurology. But I am read in those subjects, and I would recommend you to investigate more on the topics so to make your own judgment.
Jesus christ, what a trip, thank you for this video
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Art as a metric for the evolution of the neurophysiological and psychological state of a human society.
I knew from the title itself it was Master and His emissary. Mcgilchrist opened by eyes on both neurology and phenomenology.
I’m really glad I found this channel
Truly fantastic work.
Thanks!
"Of all people only those who make time for philosophy are at leisure, only they are truly alive." - Seneca the Younger, On the Shortness of Life. And with leisure and life, come the arts . . .
Reminds me of the overwhelming popularity of deconstructionist view points, which traditional forms of meaning are now shaky and more riddled with pessimism or nihilism. I notice this in myself, the overemphasized attention to what i do and how i am, and it's an eerie paralysis or meta-awareness
Greatly insightful, thank you very much
Is this work similar to simulacra and simulation and is the movie the matrix somewhat similar to left hemishpere modernism?
Nice video...do one on music as well..would like to watch that...
Good luck...and make more videos..
Which work? The video topic or one of the books I talk about in the video?
@@ThoughtsonThinking the books that were discussed and the art work.
The books expand in many different directions, the master and his emissary (book) is essentially about how the two hemispheres of the brain developed western society! You can definitely link Simulacra, simulation & the matrix into these books I think, highly recommend you read the books!! 👍
Hello. I'm probably in the wrong place here, but I couldn't find an e-mail address for you. (You do have one for "business" but I've heard those are generally ignored.) You had a video titled something like, "Friedrich Nietzsche and the Paradox of the Neo-Nazis". I was going to watch it, but I can't find it now on your video archives, or through any of the search engines. Did you or TH-cam take it down? Has it been posted anywhere else? I'm not into Instagram or Twitter and don't really want to go there. Thanks.
Is there a transcript available?
Thanks :)
Is everything you say about the brain scientifically correct?
I would recommend you to put references on the description, it will make your work even more valuable.
Great video and thank you.
Yes they are, most scientific references I mention can be found in the scientifically accurate book: The Master & His Emissary by McGilchrist (it is published and certified through Yale University Press & through my research all is well documented) if you have not read this I would highly recommend it, I may put in references at a later date if the videos gets some traction 😊
Thoughts on Thinking thanks I was going to ask:)
Thoughts on Thinking love the channel
Are there any videos of patients displaying these symptoms as a result of hemisphere damage?
Great content!
The tumbnail dude haha (haven´t watched the video yet)
You could do some work on Deleuze and Guattari, very interesting people
no word about the invent of the camera ? that event kill the figurative art and push to paint far away the machine
Then many years pass and the artist back to the machine in a different way
Not diferences between modern art 1880 and contemporary art 1960?
I hated Aristotelian thinking, and one day i found Spinoza: "Nobody has determined yet what the body is capable of" Only the body, self knows what it can be, or do, this broadens existence far beyond rationalism
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I've had this thought about art, especially Picasso's. The real rabbit hole is in what causes schizophrenia. I think it is no more, and no less, genetic than heart disease. And it is, in my belief, a neurological disorder with psychological symptoms rather than simply a psychological disorder.
Do you rec any readings on the topic? Yes, it’s def the rabbit hole haha
As a person who actually has schizophrenia, this feels like pop science..
Can you tell us why? What's your take on what he said?
As stated in begining of the video, they're refering to the notion of schizophrenia in phenomenological level rather than as diagnostic/clinical term. Which is, in general, means as prephilosophical and prescientific description of schizophrenia symptom and its experience.
It is closer to literary theory and Lacanian psychoanalysis than pop science/psychology.
Do you see voices? ☹
You are discussing modernism and schizophrenia in such a way without referencing Deleuze and Guattari's work Capitalism and Schizophrenia. Even if D&G's works on the topic (the Anti-oedipus and A thousand plateaus) are not scientific, they are fundamental to see how modernism sees itself in this terms. While you refer to postmodernist thinking as "seeing the world as words", you miss the point of searching postmodernists beyond Derrida. See Deleuze for a more metaphysical approach to reality and it's desiring machines. A work of art is not simply a question without meaning pointed to the reader long enough, it is rather a combination of machines and a production of something. See how Deleuze put the Schizophrenic relations to nature and reality, as a relation between machines in nature and machines in body. Capitalism helps and Deleuze foresaw the 21st century as "an era of schizophrenia" in relation to the era of neurosis founded by Freud and Lacan (and Zizek and all Lacanians, who in fact care more about words then about the world)
Will look into it but this video was heavily influenced by McGilchrist - The Master & His Emissary, thanks for the recommendations
@@ThoughtsonThinking the topics you bring are very important, but maybe you could broaden your horizons with a (post)modernist view on itself. Try Capitalism, Schizophrenia and Paranoia (a short text in the site larvalsubjetcs) and the Anti-oedipus itself.
I'd venture that Jordan Peterson has art of Lenin in his house as motivation - an enemy and ideology that must be defeated. Seeing it spurs action in him I'd imagine. This is opposed to most people's practice of decorating their homes with relaxing, comforting art and styles. I could see Peterson as someone who wouldn't be interesting in making a cozy, cocoon-like dwelling.
Thought echo symptom and self reference objects is the key in my opinion
Just cause you don't understand what's going on don't mean it doesn't make no sense.
And just cause you don't like it don't mean it ain't no good.
Heldenklage at the beginning?
Yeah, thought I would play Nietzsche's music throughout as a backing for the video 👍
We can easily assume that art is a projection of the artist's inner self. However, in the past artists' consciousness was completely absorbed in ideas or higher principles that were outside their grasp but concealed in the faith in God and religions, and ancient teachings, as fixed points, that limited the form, but not the content. These principles worked as inspirations as if they were part of the artist's inner world but most important they were also the same valus shared by the society at that time. Therefore the result was a work that eveybody could understand and appreciate on an conscious/unconscious level. Nowadays art is a mere projection of the people's ego and we are scattered among different personality who want to impose their personal points of view. But art in this way has lost its universal language
ART SHOULD DISTURB THE COMFORTABLE & COMFORT THE DISTURBED
Lol nice
Who said this?
@@Dino_Medici Cesar A. Cruz
@@sinisterminister4201 Wow. He has a beautiful story. Thx for sharing
ok so art for arts sake, modernism..bad....when the soviets snuff out art for arts sake and modernism in favor of more romantic traditional styles with an avowed social dimension....also bad?
What would be the role of of capitalism in all this?
Well, if we are going by corporatism which is a deceitful reality which can be veiled within capitalism then we have elements that lead to further fragmentation within societies between communities and between individuals but also capitalism in general can do this as I said it can reduce the perceived quality of singular individuality by the overarching power of corporation, capitalism has its flaws but I would say it's still the best option we have as in many regards it's fundamental manifesto is positive but it often can get manipulated, this is also in regards to many other entities that have over the years developed out from capitalism which overall lead further into the fragmented world we live in today.
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the right/left brain model is quite inaccurate or unscientific by modern standards.