PTRS 41: The Soviet Semiauto Antitank Rifle (aka an SKS on Steroids)
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Prior to World War Two, the Soviet Union had a rather lackluster interest in antitank rifles - a series of guns were developed, but slowly and without all that much success. The Barbarossa invasion gave a very immediate need for just this sort of weapon, however, to give Soviet infantry units an organic anti-armor capability. Two star Soviet designers were tasked with designing AT rifles, Degtyarev and Simonov. The cartridge they were to use was the new 14.5x114mm, a high-velocity monster using a tungsten carbine cored projectile.
After a shockingly fast development period, the guns from both design bureaus were accepted. The Degtyarev became the PTRD-41, a single-shot auto-ejecting design that was extremely cheap and fast to produce. The Simonov design became the PTRS-41, a 5-shot semiauto offering more firepower but also taking longer to produce. The Degtyarev entered service first, with the first substantial deliveries of PTRS rifles arriving in 1942.
Both designs would serve through the war, with hundreds of thousands being made. Many were put into storage in 1945, and they are still seen today in Ukraine periodically. The PTRS would go on to be the basis for Simonov's 7.62x39mm infantry rifle, adopted as the SKS.
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I'm pretty sure PTRS thumb would also be categorized as an amputation.
PTRS no-thumb
Avulsion. Amputation would imply that it was done surgically. Fun medicine fact for you.
I was just going to comment, PTRS thumb is actually no thumb. 😛
@@highjumpstudios2384 not correct at all.
For one, OSHA defines an amputation as: "An amputation is the traumatic loss of a limb or other external body part. Amputations include a part, such as a limb or appendage, that has been severed, cut off, amputated (either completely or partially); fingertip amputations with or without bone loss; medical amputations resulting from irreparable damage; amputations of body parts that have since been reattached. Amputations do not include avulsions, enucleations, deglovings, scalpings, severed ears, or broken or chipped teeth."
And OSHA defines an avulsion as: "An avulsion is a tearing or forcible separation of tissue. An amputation is loss or removal of a limb, body part or organ."
A thumb definitely constitutes as one of either: a limb, an appendage or an external body part.
For two: an avulsion can be done surgically, nor does an amputation necessitate surgical procedure. They're called a traumatic amputation.
@@1sanitat1 ..resulting in PTRS PTSD...
Wouldn’t a “PTRS-thumb” be simply just “no-thumb”?
Aka stump.
De-thumb
Post traumatic rammed syndrome - thumb
Number of Garand thumbs you can get? Potentially unlimited, _i.e. until you fucking get it._
Number of PTRS thumbs you can get? Two.
it deserves another nomenclature class... "ptrs-claw" as it would likely rip the thumb cleam out its socket,
4 years after the PTRD, Ian finally talks about the MEGA SKS.
Perhaps the self-loading carbine is the little self-loading AT rifle?
Isn't this a re-upload?
MEGA SVS, previous projects of Simonov were SVS-36 and AVS-37 for 7,62x54R.
Fact
The PTRD Can Only Shoot One Bullet Because It Doesn't Have a Magazine
PTRS Can Because Have Magazine
The new Nerf MEGA simonov
Since this rifle has basically the same inner workings as the SKS, does that mean it also shares the SKS's occasional habit of becoming an unintentional machine gun when the firing pin gets stuck forward? Boy howdy, that would be an adventure.
It is how the KPV was invented.
That usually results in an out of battery so it would certainly be an adventure
@@TheMoistestNugget Anti-tank gun becomes an anti-tank grenade.
Wow 5 rounds of this full auto… 😂😂
I’ve had it happen with only a few rounds on my 1950’s Russian SKS. But only a few rounds never all of them. I have 3 Russian SKS rifles. Happens once in a while. 🎉🎉
Say goodbye to your ribs.
Now I want to see one used in a brutality match.
funny enough, been working on that goal myself, so perhaps one day
there is a video from donbass, where one of the soldiers firing this
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Spinner: *shudders*
@@mars_man9971 I'll pray for your shoulder
this is a great idea. the first shot will dislocate ians shoulder, and the second shot relocates it back in place
"Sergei I'm feeling a crosswind, go walk out to the front sight to adjust windage "
I think, "Sergej" would then be "behind enemy lines", cause of how long this thing is.. .
You just use "Kentucky windage" to compensate. (So called because you're in Russia and the muzzle is in Kentucky.)
I still remember being a teenager playing CoD: World at War for the first time and laughing at how the PTRS-41 was the M82 Barret stand-in with the player capable of running around with it and hip-firing it. But I never thought this thing is just this much of a monster, it's huge.
Meanwhile in Red Orchestra it was the anti tank solution for the Red Army (with the Wehrmacht having the Panzerfaust)
I remember using it in a fixed position in the first one
I like how everything about this gun is just summarized as "Well I guess that's reasonable for that size."
Didn't know lightposts were considered firearms? I learn something new here everyday 😁
😂😂😂
Just in case you couldn't take the whole plumbing section to the battlefield
Love how gnarly it is, machined by the bluntest apprentice in the factory
@@krissteel4074 Apprentice? C'mon, that was Pavel, the Master Machinist!
@@maxo.9928 It's so dumb how you two seemingly didn't even watch the video and yet joke about the quality of master machinists and apprentices. Much like the contemporary SMGs, those guns weren't crude for lack of skills. They were crude because the country was LITERALLY BEING ROLLED OVER BY NAZI ARMIES. They needed as many guns to take them down as quickly as possible, and with the least amount of machining time as possible.
So if anything, all things considered that rifle above is actually even too smooth and finely machined considered the circumstances.
Actually not that bad of an idea, how many invading force starts to check on the old town lamp posts, when deployed to use just dig out the shoulder stock, pull the cable out and throw the bulb from muzzle device, trigger group can be stashed into the stock, dust cover can be access panel
It's always funny in video games when the devs want to make you believe a single dude could shoulder and fire this thing accurately while standing.
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I'm looking at you, COD WAW
*Witness me*
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During the battle of Stalingrad at Pavlov’s house, one of the reasons why they were able to last so
long against tank assaults was due to a PTRS41 put on the roof. The top of the tanks were fairly thin and the PTRS had no problem penetrating it.
Does that mean that aircraft armed with similar caliber can penetrate tanks at that time ?
@@01-uy3ofyup. Even the US 50 cals could make some holes in tank roof armor, however it requires a very steady pilot and some aim to do much.
@@marcusborderlands6177 Many things are not talked about pertaining to ww2 history. For example, people often think that the soviets only had rocket artillery, when in fact, they had more conventional cannon artillery than rockets.
@@01-uy3of people just seem to not want to learn anymore. They hear something from some random source and decide "welp that's all, nothing more to be said on that subject"
@@01-uy3ofno one thinks that. Soviet hade huge amounts of artillery
Now, if World at War is to be believed, this is the ideal weapon for a *sick* 360° no scope.
I love how most games depict this rifle similar to the Barret or M200 that's barely 1½ meters long, when in reality it's longer than you are taller!
lol in the game enlisted, its pretty close to RL dimensions, so when you wave it in your hand it looks like your waving a huge 7 foot long stick.
Maybe if they bullpuped it it'd be as long as he is tall.
Yea remember running around quick scoping dudes indoors with this in World at War? I would love to see someone try to maneuver this through a door, or around a corner in a hallway.
This bullet used in this is 250% more powerfull than a barrett! (30,000 ft-lbs)
Makes its depiction in Vanguard/Warzone running and quickscoping with it that much more absurd lol
5 shots, perfect for a backup gun match. I like that Ian apologizes for showing historic firearms most of us will never get to see in person in the background. Cool even if out of focus.
this for the long gun, and what, a China Lake for a 'pistol'?
I'd travel great distance to be able to run that match.
I have been to that museum many times and it is a fantastic place - not only is entry free but because Beligum has been invaded/liberated by just about everyone they have kit from all sides and their stuff goes back before WWI. They also have an aircraft and tank section which is not to be missed. Also because the museum is not commerical and quite you can get really up close to the exhibits like you just cannot in other busy museums. I would highly recommend going there and as a plus the car museum is at the other side of the square you can do 2 for one.
Noice, thx 4 advice m8
Just as a note, the tank section has mostly been moved to Bastogne, so there isn't very much left in Brussels (a couple of vehicles on leo1 chassis and a couple of Pattons)
The aviation hall is as ever a beautiful collection and the recent WW1 collection is worth checking out
Iirc one of the many tanks in their collection is a functional IS-3. Not sure if its on display in Brussels or Bastogne, but I believe they do own it.
@@dootmarine1140 I took a picture of it in Bastogne in 2019, it was sitting right next to the ISU 152, and it wasn't in Brussels last month.
Their tank collection is really worth a visit, although it's quite remote.
Coupling it with the traditional commemorations in December is a good way to make it worth the trip.
It's like they say: When life gives you lemon invaders, make a museum of lemonade.
I love the rough surface finish. It doesn't need to look pretty, as long as it does the job it is designed to do.
In the ugliness of the eastern front, “pretty” is simply a firearm that works.
im just picturing all the smoke and burning hot metal flying off this thing as they try to mill it down as fast as possible lol
Ian, your humor is exactly what I needed this morning. The gradual zoom out joke made me snicker. I never realized just how large the PTRS was. Thank you for keeping firearms history alive and getting more people interested in firearms history and development.
this makes it so hilarious thinking back to call of duty world at war. running around with that thing and shoulder firing it.
@@saladiniv7968 Petrenko was just built different(literally and canonically, black ops 2 hinted at his above average healing factor, though i guess that wouldn't help him carry around a 21 kilo antitank rifle no problem)
@@saladiniv7968 shoulder firing it with a scope aswell 😂 imagine trying to steady your aim
I like that he brought up the point that it was used for a long time against side armor on tanks. But he doesn't really do it justice. There is an entire line of modifications to panther designed to help protect the tank from Russians destroying panthers with anti tank rifles because the side armor was so thin. panther tanks with sheet metal skirts over the tracks have those plates there to protect against that rifle and the degterev design
Same thing with the armored skirts around the turret ring on later Panzer IVs, if I'm not mistaken
@@NoMoreCrumbs You are correct, while often attributed to the Bazooka it was the humble 14.5mm that actually started the German use of Schürzen. It was just a happy coincidence for them it happened to work against shaped charges as well, with them later making mesh skirts for this purpose.
The Pz III, Pz IV, and their derivatives only had 30mm of side armor. So they were all vulnerable to the 14.5, which could penetrate 30-32mm RHA at 500m angled at 90°, and 40mm at 100m and under making even the Panther vulnerable at close range. So a lot would get side skirts, though on the Pz III/IV/StuGs they weren't mounted that great and often broke off on trees, etc.
Not the scope of the video
I've read several accounts of tank combat on the eastern front by German tankers, and getting vision blocks shot out or having rounds punch through drivers' vision slits is a common theme. The Russian A/T gunners used the PTRS and PTRD rifles a *lot* and if they couldn't get through the armor plate they looked for ports or weak spots they could get through. The German tankers had a healthy respect for these A/T rifles and could be relied on to take the time to counter the threat.
This relates to Panther II, and its purpose was to thicken the side armour enough to resist the 14.5mm round as well as to share parts with other vehicles such as the King Tiger.
Panther II never got anywhere as adding Schürzen to the sides of Panther proved adequate in tumbling the 14.5 projectile before it hit the main armour.
As for it's anti-tank capability, the 14.5x114mm was so effective it was the real reason the Germans started using Schürzen aka side skirts or "Bazooka Plates" not the Bazooka and PIAT as commonly claimed. Though as a happy coincidence for them it worked well against those too, it was the later and cheaper to produce mesh skirts that were more specifically for shaped charge weapons.
The main 14.5x114mm round in WWII the "BS" API could penetrate around 30-32mm of RHA steel at 500m angled at 90°, with 40mm penetration at 100m. Making all the Pz IIIs, Pz IVs, and their derivatives vulnerable with only 30mm of flat side armor. Even the mighty Panther only had 40mm of side armor with the lower half unsloped, the Soviet gunners were apparently quite proficient and ballsy as it was still enough of a threat that Panthers were eventually equipped with 5mm Schürzen plates to cover the flat armor between the road wheels and sloped upper hull. It's even claimed to be one of the reasons the canceled Panther II, among other various upgrades, had its side armor increased to 60mm as the improvements to its protection were primarily designed for and inspired by lessons learned on the Eastern Front. Turns out all they needed were 5mm RHA steel plates, and that was enough to destabilize the penetrator enough to stop or at least severely limit its penetration.
Might be old, but it's a nasty piece of kit. While not this semi-auto behemoth, the "Also kinda semi-auto but not really" PTRD-41 with the same round is still occasionally run into in the Middle East, with it even making some appearances in the current Ukraine conflict.
I'd hate to be on the other end of a full auto 14.5 KPV (Almost twice the muzzle energy of an M2 and a little more than a 20mm ShVAK). Light armored vehicles could still be shredded from the sides, or even the front depending on the model. For instance the armor on the LAV-25(Modified LAV III/Mowag Piranha) is only designed to protect against light rounds like 7.62x39 ball. The Stryker(An LAV-25 derivative) has frontal protection against 14.5, but the sides and rear are just armored against 7.62x39 ball, only reaching full all around 14.5 protection if its bolt on ceramic armor or 3mm steel plates are installed.
Even the Bradely which is the "Heavy" US IFV only has 25.4mm of armor on all sides, with the slope of the front hull pushing it to about 40-50mm effective, and the turrets sloped front to around 37-45mm effective; and that's a hardened aluminum alloy, so it's even less effective considering the 14.5's 40mm of penetration at 100m is against RHA. At close range or getting engaged from a hill or roof top... In the Gulf War just the 12.7mm NSVT was able to penetrate multiple Bradleys, injure some crew, and even knock one out by destroying its transmission. Though newer/upgraded variants have spaced laminate belts and high hardness steel skirts, there's no added protection to the front AFAIK.
There's also HEI(High Explosive Incendiary) and the Chinese have made 2 new, somehow even scarier rounds. An APIDS-S, basically an API-T with discarding sabot like a SLAP round for even more penetration. And an APHEI(Armor Piercing High Explosive Incendiary) for when you want to shoot at a bit of everything I guess.
A ZPU-4 with any of these rounds would be an absolute nightmare.
Anyways, long post over and the 14.5 has my respect.
Nope, the Bradley is protected at 360 degrees against the 14.5mm and from the A2 variant also vs the russian 30mm APDS in the frontal arc thanks to steel plates as spaced armor.
The stryker permanently has ceramic armor.
To protect against 14.5mm the Marines also adopted ceramic armor for the LAV-25, while the AAV-7 were updated with spaced EAAK armor.
You do realize the Bradley is fully armored against 14.5? It's the entire point of the armor. 6mm steel plate, 25mm air, 6mm steel, 90mm air, 25mm aluminum. Full 360 degree protection against 14.5mm with some extra steel on the turret front.
A2 upgrade replaced the 6mm plates with a single much thicker (~32mm) plate for frontal and side protection against 30mm AP.
Also the BS round went out of production decades ago, so 14.5mm these days is just 12.7mm pen with more recoil.
So can an M113 be extirpated by a PTRS with a normal average 14.5x114 round?
@@driver76fan You mean penetrated? Probably, M113 only has ~38-44mm aluminum, so at close range a 14.5x114mm round should penetrate.
I suspect modifications for Punter been done to improve protection against 45mm guns, which was much bigger real thread at a time then 14.5
This gun is so big, chunky and powerful that it feels like something from Warhammer 40k
Ww2 is basically human histories closest equivalent.
In terms of scale technology and brutality
Mate, Warhammer 40k was inspired by this thing
Any larger-than-usual firearm: **Exists**
Cancerous WH40K stans: "fEeLs lIkE sOmeThInG oUtTa 40k!" or "lOoK, a ReAl lIfE bOlTeR!"
God, try to be even MILDLY original and come up with an un-regurgitated thought for once in your sad life.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978 No need to be so hostile mate. It's not very sensible of you to assume things from a single short comment.
There is a weapon inspired by this in 40k, it's called a Transuranic Arquebus. You can google it, they also use it to kill tanks and light vehicles.
It was said in the Red army in that times "long barrel - short life". Anti-armor sections always suffered great casualties in combat. Both the PTRD and PTRS had nice penetration, but suffered to make much damage after penetrating armor.
I have read memoirs of a soldier, who had fought with those rifles. He said, that the best anti-tank rifle he used, was a 45 mm anti-tank cannon :) He explained, that if you wanted a slight chance to be effective, you had to dig a nice trench and camouflage it. And the trench for anti-tank rifle was not much bigger, than a trench for a 45 mm gun. Though, it was much easier to change positions or fall back obviously with a PTRS or PTRD.
I'm sure they left out the part that it's max effective range is 150-250 meters to the average Russian infantryman. And I'm sure that shooting it kicks up a huge amount of dust in the hotter months, so your best chance of surviving firing at a tank is either being in a well concealed entrenched position or shoot, move, and communicate. I'm guessing a lot of these were abandoned during WW2.
@@sleepingninjaquiettime that, or like 3 feet away from the tank
@@sleepingninjaquiettime, 1 бронебойщик на 1 танк, это хороший размен.
PTSD squad
@@JoshuaC923 , во-первых: это 2 номера. А во-вторых: это не ПТРД, второй не подающий, а подносящий. Это автоматчик с БК.
This is actually my preferred concealed carry. 👌
is that a ptrs-41 in your pants or are you just happy to see me?
@@bajs28 might be both
Snubnosed PTRS with .57 special ammunition
@@Gameprojordan too much flashbang can't hurt anybody.
*pulls it out of video game satchel with comically large storage*
On a shelf in that room is a FALo. The heavy barreled, select fire version of the FAL, with Lo standing for 'lourd' (heavy), whereas the L in FAL means 'leger' (light). It was our squad support weapon when we all had 7.62x51 rifles. Ammo and magazine compatibility.
The 14.5mm cartridge was actually still capable of penetrating the side armor of a Panther tank, and was the driving force behind the increased side armor of the Panther II project. However upon further investigation Germany discovered that the addition of the armor skirting found on later Panther models was enough to render the 14.5mm insufficient.
Not pictured. Brandon Herera being restrained off camera as he desperately tries to get ahold of this.
Matter of fact he already owns one.
@@80m63rM4n This surprises me less than I care to admit. I hadn't noticed it on his WALL OF GUNS so I just assumed it was on his list of guns to get.
Wow, seeing this PTRS-41 gives me nostalgia. Using this on COD World At War in every game mode felt like it was broken back then. Good old times…
I'm assuming a three man crew: a shooter and a loader carrying the gun and the barrel respectively and a third guy carrying replacement shoulders for the shooter...
I can’t imagine firing that thing. Just the huge chunk of metal that is the bolt flying back and forth when cycling. Wow. Thanks for showing this.
Atleast it's all far infront of your face unlike the ptrd where the bolt launches back behind your head everytime you fired
I always think about how loud combat must have been for those soldiers. Just imagine firing a rifle like this without hearing protection. They must have been almost totally deaf after even just a short engagement.
I saw a video of a replica being shot. The muzzle brake literally lifted the nearby gravel with the shockwave and gas emission. Fucking hell. That thing is quite literally a cannon, and its ammos have the charge of small grenades going off. The poor soldiers that had to fire those things.
@@Narcan885 I am sure having the ability to punch through the side armour of Nazi tanks was a great comfort.
There is nothing worse for an infantry unit than having no way to deal with certain enemies.
If you really want your jaw to drop there's a video out there of a DPR militaman shoulder firing a whole magazine. The AK he has dangling off his shoulder looks like a toy in comparison.
This makes its use on World at War comical, holy HUGE! I had no idea they were that big!? Always thought it was the same size as a barrett .50 cal!
You can use them in hell let loose, but you have to shoot it prone or braced on something
Both PTRS and PTRD were also successfully used as air defense gun. Thanks for the video, interesting and exciting as usual
Yep. Have seen pictures of them in an anti-aircraft position. Assuming a fast moving aircraft would be hard to hit. But one round through its engine block would make a mess. Hell, if the plane flew low enough the crew could throw it at the plane. Might be more likely to bring it down. : )
@@davidcox3076I assume it worked far better at suppressing bolder maneuvers than at actually taking down planes. No matter what chance it has of hitting, knowing most soviet infantry units could have at least one shoulder-cannon must have had some good effect on the pilot, psychologically speaking.
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart That's most likely. Stay at a higher altitude when attacking to avoid more of the ground fire. I think most of the machine gun, and in this case anti-tank rifle, antiaircraft mounts were to help throw up enough lead to make an enemy pilot think twice.
the PTRS is in many games.
often does one forget how actually big this monstrosity is.
quite impressive
I was lucky enough to shot this rifle with steel cased original old soviet ammo. Lying down position, boom! Not that bad. This muzzle device made incredible job to decrease recoil+it is semi auto! So I can say, the sound of this monster is way more impressive than the recoil itself. Live time of this gun is cca 500 rounds, so it is not the gun shooting ranges love to use for entartaining shooting...
It’s incredible to me to see what you could build with 100lbs of steel and a box of files ….what a crude monster of a rifle
Brandon: "I don't need it ×3...I. NEED. IT."
Has he already acquire one?
Owning an SKS (my favorite one of all my firearms); this is really very cool to see the historical context. Thank you Ian!
Had possibility of shooting one not so long ago, it might look scary but honestly after first round it wasn't that bad, popped like 7 or 8 of those and 4 went one after another (jams as hell) . Shoot while sitting wasn't bad but the other guys had to hold me bench as recoil could tip me over. Target was a car like 50 meters away the anti-armour went thru the engine block. So honestly if ya can shoot it i sugest trying it as it is f-ing Lit to shoot. Not much to compare with the closest is Mosin 44 with armour piercing ammo.
50 meters? If a tank ever got that close to you with this thing, you've made a terrible mistake!
@@cmtptr, or camouflaged yourself pretty well.
@@sciarpecyril touche
@@cmtptr don't forget that tanks have very limited visibility. You could literally crawl around or even hop on top of it without the crew even noticing. Heck, even modern tanks don't have too much vision
We were waiting for this one for so long! Thank you Ian for covering awesome and iconic weapons over and over again !
Yes, it's so long!
Ba dum tsss
I will see myself out.
I have a Soviet weapon ID cards from the early 80s. It shows the ptrs41 and the sks listed together. I always wondered why, now I know. Thanks!
"There wasn't a ton of energy being put into the anti tank rifle program." I see what you did there.
Now show me a Bubba’ed out PTRS with a 20 round mag, covered in pic-rails, with poorly mounted red dot sight
Made me laugh! Don't forget a poorly fitting cheesy "tactical" stock!
Hmm, i think you can find Bubba'ed out PTRS in Ukraine nowadays. Good luck dodging bombs, drones and landmines though!
@Cancer McAids plz no, my body couldn’t take it, literally the recoil would probably destroy you.
It's pretty easy to mount a red dot, the rear sight base is about the same size as a mosin, so all you need to do is buy an 11$ mosin rear sight rail, mill one clearance slot and put it on, no rifle modification required. Working on the mags..
Call of Duty Vanguard:
I guess the easy disassembly of the rifle to be carried around combined with the tungsten core rounds are the key success of this rifle for Red Army during WWII.
I can see how effective this will be with 2-man team silently going for a flanking position to effectively disable Panzer IVs.
Now i see why in videogames like Company of Heroes 2,you can have 6-8 men team carrying bunch of Degtrayev and 2 PTRS rifles,owing to its real-life capability.
Thank you for the video.
GARBAGE DAY
Good ol’ Guards Rifle Infantry.
Also has anyone ever noticed that the PTRS is depicted as bolt action in COH2?
@@AzelfandQuilava they probably got it mixed up with the PTRD-41, fires the same round but is a single shot bolt action.
I believe it's the PTRD, the giant tube on rails. It's still not entirely correct because it depicts it as a fully bolt action, when the PTRD should actually automatically unload the casing after firing due to the rails.
@@edg4rallanbro753 In-game its referred to as a PTRS and that seems to be what its modelled after.
I assume the bolt-action function is to make it less busted against light vehicles (cuz Guards will obliterate 222s and Halftracks if given the chance).
this gun is in Jagged Alliance 2 - the description says you can use it for pole vaulting once you run out of ammo
"Comrade Degtyarev - Brilliant gun... ... Simonov, what have you come up with?"
"Hold my Vodka"
WOW!!! That thing is enormous! I want to see Arnold use this (hand held of course) in his next action movie
B-32 with a steel core. The B-41 had a tungsten carbide core. And it was quite rare ammunition.
The prototype of both the PTRS and the SCS was the 1940 Simonov rifle, which lost to the SVT.
That rifle being a two-man weapon; I'd add a third person just to be the ammo carrier.
The PTRS-41 is my absolute favorite gun. Despite naming my account after the S18-1000 the PTRS has become my favorite. Such a simple yet powerful design. The perfect mix of power, weight, range, and serviceability that the other ATRs struggled with. Still used today in the East as anti-material as the ammo is still common
Holy shit the PTRS is even bigger IRL. This rifle was OP ASF in the last mission of World At War.
Imagine actually running and gunning like in CoD with this behemoth!😂
Scrolled down to comment that very thing
The fact that you could carry one around in that game after seeing how huge it is makes it so comical
That 14,5 cartridge still in use today in a KPVT - main armament of BTRs and BRDMs. Ma Duce talks. But kpvt shouts :)
South African NTW-20 and I think a Polish Anti-Material rifle (I cant remember the name) can also be chambered in 14.5mm.
I'm glad this video was the last one from Forgotten Weapons that my dad ever watched. I can't believe it's only been out four days.
Found one of these in a gun store about 2 months ago... Unfortunately, the government of Canada has made it so it is not allowed to even leave the room it currently resides in. Still really cool to see in person, it is way bigger in person than the video leads on
Muzzle brake is quite similar to Soviet HMGs of the era.
PTRS implementation in a nutshell:
Stalin: “You see those panzers?”
Simonov: “Da, comrade Stalin.”
Stalin: “I don’t want to.”
Simonov: “Da, comrade Stalin.”
Это Вы просто не знаете, как Сталин ставил задачу Малышеву на создание СУ-152 "Зверобой" в течение одного месяца. И как уговаривал Яковлева создать Як-3 за три месяца.
Thanks Ian! Greetings to the Museum of the Belgian Army from Aprelevka, Moscow region!
Спасибо, Иан!
Привет музею армии Бельгии из Подмосковной Апрелевки!
one of my fav guns of all time, i've wanted this video for AGES. 10/10.
When held standing vertical, can also serve as a flagstaff.
This rifle usually shoot БС-41 (BS-41) cartridge. But there's tons of different ammunition for this rifle, especially after KPVT become available.
Could you actually use more modern ammo on these things without breakages?
@@1sanitat1 Soviet ammunition were pretty standardized, so I think you could use modern 14.5mm ammo.
@@1sanitat1 According to Wikipedia, Chinese NORINCO developed sabot munition for 14.5mm (like APDS or SLAP), probably for exports purpose. I can't find further information tho.
I always wanted to see a PTRS episode after seeing it in World at War, today my wish was granted.
About 14.5 mm ammo - armour-piercing bullet with thungsten core is named BS-41 (БС-41), B-32 is armor-piercing incendiary bullet and it has a steel core. Also, B-32 is a type of bullet for all calibers - we also have 7.62 B32 and 12.7 B32
Ian is just so precious, look how happy he is in this little intro! We have to protect him at all cost
Ian: "Sorry about not having my usual drop cloth in place, and all the clutter visible in the background."
Audience: "We... um... didn't know it was a problem!" 😄😄 [Good reason to go back for a replay anyway, just to see what's lurking in the background. 🤔]
Since 1943, this rifle has been used mainly as a support weapon, to destroy machine gun emplacements and vehicles at a great distance. and also as a means of air defense, for this purpose they dug a special trench in the shape of a ring. The bipods of the gun were placed in the center of the ring, and the calculation of the gun could move in a circle, firing into the airspace.
The PTRD is still my favorite anti-tank rifle of WWII. The simplicity is just marvelous to me.
The PTRD is one of my favorites, the design has exactly everything it needs to do the intended job.
@@Vnx The recoil system gets me. It speeds up firing. It reduces felt recoil. It even integrates perfectly into the shoulder stock.
They have one of these at the Virginia War Museum. It is HUGE. Great little museum. If you’re near the tidewater area and you’re into all things military definitely check it out.
I've always had a thing for this and other very large AT guns like the Lahti L-39 (my favorite of all of them)...To me they have this sleek/slim look at first almost elegant in appearance,. But the sheer size and brutality of them up close leaves no doubt as to the power they possess when fired.
the beauty of anti-tank rifles is the point where raw brute force has an elegance all its own. Place one fuckton of powder here, bit of tungsten in front of it, and hope the padding saves your shoulder the pain you're about to inflict on a hardened steel plate.
I want to see modern firearms manufacturers make non finished guns like this again for super cheap
11:53 Kind of disappointed he didn't say "This is the short stroke piston: it's going to Boop the bolt carrier"
"Organic infantry anti-tank weapon", it is as fun as "recreatinal sub-machine gun"( when Ian talked about the .22 American 180)😍😍😍
I'm a huge fan of the SKS so when I saw this I fell in love with it. Amazing how similar the two are really. Awesome video as always man.
Actually, the B32 cartridge features a hardened Steel Core. It is the equally weighted BS41 Cartridge wich features the tungsten core. Both have incendiary compound in front of the penetrator
Loved the classic intro framing for a backup gun.
...Reminds me a bit of the Hallconnen..
Now THIS was something i didnt think id see today.
Stellar vid.
Love the history on this... gonna look up the dev program and see if theres a doc on it anywhere. Id love to hear/see more.
Russian weapon on steroids? Like Ivan Drago?
If he dies, he dies
Dah...you call that SKS...this is SKS.....
@@TheWolfsnack SKS is this...after detox.
@@TheWolfsnack I would totally watch a movie about Black Bear Yuri
No, in this case it's more like Rocky Balboa doses of steroids.
my favorite rifle in Peace Walker xD Awesome to see a real one and learn more about its history :) Thanks, Ian!
I have seen pictures of these, but I never got a really good scale reference. Just looked like an extra big SKS. Well with you in the shot, I now have a scale reference. That thing in insane. The math on the round it uses is also insane. I dare say that would be effective on most armored vehicles today not including reactive armor.
This PTRS rifle for sure gives its operator a PTSR. :-D
The cycle came full circle with the Pauza P50 anti material rife which is basically an SKS scalled up to .50 BMG. Brandon Herrera has a video on one of these very rare birds.
*down to
@stev3548 The SKS is chambered in 7.62x39mm, much smaller than .50 BMG.
@@jaredthehawk3870 Oh i misread i thought you meant the ptrs, oops.
Few years ago I was at a gun show and one old chap had a PTRS and a PTRD on display and these rifles are huge the flimsy table they were on looked like they were about to fold.
Wow I had always hoped to see Ian do something on the PTRS let alone showing comparison to the SKS, and years later here it is! Excellent video!
Finally, ive always wanted to see you taking a look at the PTRS!!
We better see this on the range 👀
Loved the outtakes. Thank you for what you do for the gun/academic community
If ever I’ve wanted to see you take something out onto the range, it is this.
Instantly had memory of play CoD World at war. The rifle that we thought we can mount a scope and basically turn it into ww2 style barrett 50s, plus this thing torn krauts everytime it hit
My goal is to now make an airsoft version of this with a steel bolt and use a solenoid to mimick short stroke recoil. Feel like that could be a neat project
I had heard the SKS was developed from an anti-tank rifle. It was cool to see this.
Interesting how it's so well known but yet so rare in reality I was introduced to this gun from world at war
Nice little piece of equipment thanks again for sharing some awesome stuff that we’ve never seen before again.
I would never have thought it, but once you mentioned the SKS I saw the resemblance in the magazine almost immediately.
As always a superb video to show one off, if not the biggest service riffle of all time.
I've been waiting for this video!!! Thanks Ian
I've been wanting a video on this gun for years. Thank you Ian for the early birthday present
I remember as an adolescent in Call of Duty World at War there was a mission were they made you fire one of these, of course you could easily shoulder it or even hip fire like it was a 12 gauge duck gun... Reznov !!!
I wonder if there are any recorded instances of these being used in an anti-personnel role at medium to long range, in Stalingrad say, aka sniper city. That would be really cool, ain't no taking cover from this :)
Man, by official guide you have a 7 MOA accuracy ;)
They tried to adapt PTRD/PTRS for sniper shooting, but they turned out to be ineffective, since the sights were deformed from recoil after a few shots or shifted so much that they constantly had to make adjustments.
Interesting fact:
American troops, during the Korean War, captured the PTRD, converted it to 12.7 caliber and used an optical sight, such a PTRD could fire without harming the optical sight)
Boris: What if - hear me out, Vanya - SKS, but... BIGGER.
Ivan: You had me at SKS. Let us do this.
Are they were time travels?
@@RustedCroaker Indeed were am they
Been waiting for this video for years now, so glad Ian finally got his hands on one.
Thank you Ian I have been waiting for this video ever since you started on youtube!
Insightful video indeed. Given the sheer length and weight of the thing, it would feel right at home in hands of space marine scouts as a sniper rifle with minimum dressing-up. You'd only need to rechamber it in heavy bolter ammo (I've seen somewhere its caliber being stated as 25x100mm, while regular bolter ammo would be 17/18x50mm by some accounts, can't confirm those numbers to be certain tho).
"Felt cute might delete some armored vehicles from this reality later"
-PTRS
This is just amazing. Well done video, sir.
Love your work, Ian. Long time viewer. Thanks for the good work buddy.