Metallica's Guitar Tone - The Marshall & Wizard Years: w/ Real Amps, Fractal Audio, and Free VSTs!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Today in Plague Scythe Studios, I attempt to recreate some of my favorite British-flavored metal tones from Metallica's earliest and most adventurous albums alike!
Subscribe: / plaguescythestudios
Listen to Siderum: siderum.bandcamp.com/releases
Custom Impulse Responses: drive.google.com/open?id=1jJe...
AXE FX & AX8 Presets: drive.google.com/open?id=1woy...
00:00 - Intro Playthrough
02:02 - Video Objectives
02:40 - Gear is Only a Part of Metallica's Sound
04:04 - Kill 'Em All Gear Walkthrough
14:26 - RAT Pedal Clone Demo
15:14 - Kill "Em All Miked Cab vs Custom IR
15:39 - Ride the Lightning Gear Walkthrough
19:33 - TS-808 Mini Demo
20:06 - Ride the Lightning Miked Cab vs Custom IR
20:35 - Reload & Garage Inc. Gear Walkthrough
27:33 - Fulltone OCD Demo
29:56 - Free VST & AXE FX Settings
34:32 - Conclusion
36:17 - Oops... - เพลง
![[ไฮไลต์] ฟุตบอลชาย อาร์เจนติน่า vs โมร็อกโก รอบแบ่งกลุ่ม | โอลิมปิก 2024](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wE6uYH0yyzM/mqdefault.jpg)
![THE TOYS x NONT TANONT - ดอกไม้ที่รอฝน (spring) [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pPa1d5cC8M4/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm going to go out a limb here and say you're a Metallica fan.
I've heard that "Fade To Black" was written due to James being devastated at the loss of his amps. Apparently his mother (who had passed away at that time) had helped him buy that Plexi, so the loss hit him hard as it was something that connected him to his mother.
I think that was Lars's mother who actually bought the Plexi.
Lars' mother bought the plexi stack for james
It essentially a love song to an amp and his mother.
Wow, you've really picked up on the 'scratchiness' of the kill em all tone that a lot of ppl don't come close to, good work! 👍🤘
Damn man you nailed KEA and RTL was pretty close too!
The RTL tones don't fully come to life until you quad track through this setup, then it sounds like the album. That thickness is hard to convincingly replicate with a mono rig.
Dude this is dope, best technical channel on the web, Thank You!
Dude, this is still one of the BEST vids on TH-cam. Thanks for doing it, I still thoroughly enjoy watching it. Right on bro.
This is great! Quality content as usual. You are very close with the tones by me ear.
Nice runthrough man. Absolutely nailed the Kea tone, and the others sound great as well.
Cheers :)
KEA was James' Jose modded 1959, after that amp was stolen, RTL was recorded with a 2203.
Dude, you fucking ROCK!
I've learned a lot of very valuable information from your channel. You're incredibly knowledgeable and I thank you for all the work you put into these videos. Thanks man!
I absolutely love the Load/Reload tone and the Garage Inc. sound. So thick and heavy.
great video, very thorough as usual!
A very thorough approach, thanks a lot, man!!!
really good stuff ! awesome as always.
Dude, I really love the way you put a lot of effort in these videos, keep up the work man \m/\m/
As a huge Metallica fan, I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I enjoy that you show some free VSTs as well.
Another great video man, thanks!
very premium video. Used it to create patches for katana. Helped a lot
sounds awesome man great job
What is cool about your video is that you show a complete spectre of guitar tones the band used in their early days, and i have never noticed how different they were until tonight :-)
really neat guide, thanks a lot!
Amazing work, thanks!!!
nailed the guitar tones beautiful long time fan and musician too you nailed it.
Dude, you are a champion! Impressive
Excellent! Added the OCD to my future buy list. Hope you do BLS next.
Hey man. Thank you so much for this video. Thanks to you i have gotten way closer to the hetfield garage inc tone. I used a marshall lead 100 mosfet and a mesa stiletto deuce stage ii for the base tone
I have seen them 6 times over the years. Whats funny to me is I always loved James' chunky rhythms but when you hear him live your like "WHOA! That sounds awesome but different". The point being his live sound is totally different then what people hear on records. Not to mention until the Justice album James actually recorded Kirk's rhythm parts with Kirk's guitars so they have the same timings and saved time. Kirk ONLY recorded solo's on the first 3 albums. And like you said in the videos there is many overlaid tracks and speed changes so what your hear on the album is different then what you would hear when they play live. So most people go for the recorded "sound". Bob Rock really tried to capture this on the black album so when they played live, it didnt sound different. That's when gear really changed.
Loved that cheers 🤟🏼
Of all the kill em all tones on TH-cam this is probably the best ngl
That Gargoyle is sick! Maybe you could slave in your Mark IV to your Ceriatone to get the Master of Puppets tone. They slaved in their Mark II C+ to a Marshall modded amp to get that tone.
Flemming has dealt with this rumour.
It’s not true.
Kirk had slaved his for some of the leads. Hetfield did not, it’s the straight 2C+
@@Justice_Hammer Ah interesting thanks for explaining that, I didn'y know that.
Damn nailed those first two albums!!!!
Loved it mate. Puts your engineering mind to good use. College well spent haha.
I guess I hadn't commented when they went up, so I'll do it now. Great job overall here and especially on the Garage Inc. tone. The guitars tones, both James and Kirk, on the Mercyful Fate Medley are my favorite Metallica tones on record. I really love quite a bit of James' Marshall tones actually. The distorted tones on Fade To Black and Blitzkrieg are probably my other two favorite Hetfield tones.
If I’m not mistaken, the ocd has 15 dB of clean gain on the volume pot. Tube screamers have 10 dB. Your really buying a tubes screamer for the midrange hump.
The RTL tone was really close! Great work!
Why James quit playing Wizard is a mystery to me. They sound like the finger of God. Not even the mighty SLO can compete
James’ Hardwired tone is the Mark 2C+, the Diezel VH-4, and the Wizard Modern classic blended together.... so he didn’t quit playing Wizard
“They sound like the finger of God.” You sir, are a poet and gentleman of sophistication and distinguished taste.
That fade to black with the tube screamer on sounded so fucking good
Great setup! What would you recommend for a Puppets kind of sound using Dual Recto, Boss SD-1, and Boss GE-7 EQ?
Pretty damn close. Great work.
28:15 that classic "hmmmmyeah" face when you get the chug
Awesome tones, they sound very close to the original, well done! I used to consider the guitar tone on Black Album the greatest ever, but today that honour goes to Garage Inc. There's a crunch and "fatness" that sounds so frigging good, God I love how the guitars sound on that album.
By the way, Youthanasia also has a fantastic guitar sound, wish you made a similar tone breakdown of Megadeth guitar tones as well.
good job love your show
Cool shit Bro!!
I know you dont like Slayer's tone but god damn it! The guitar tone on Hell Awaits is something I've been chasing for a while now!
Is that raw Quad tracked through the SM57 or do you do some POST eq in whatever program you use to record?
great work. thx for irs also
Having spent the last couple of weeks tone chasing the RTL era sound, this was super cool to watch. Actually listen, I guess.
This was great! Looking forward to Black Sabbath, BLS, and Mastodon . Megadeth, Selputra and Testament would be cool too.
Mastadon would be insane, they used many, many, amplifiers to build each guitar tone.
I really enjoy watching your videos about Metallica guitar tone, they're fantastic...which is you favorite MetallicA guitar tone? My is Black album... \m/
Hey Ryan, I'm still a bit confused on how to use an overdrive to supplement the amp's distortion. Do I need to back off the gain on my amp or the pedal? I'm trying to get a good Reload tone out of my Marshall DSL20 because I want to do some covers. I have an Ibanez OD clone from Deltalab, should trying to use that like the OCD?
Hey, not Ryan here! The classic overdrive setup for clean boost is Gain/Drive at zero, level at max and tone at 12 o'clock-ish. I'd recommend setting your amp gain at 12 o'clock as well and then tilt it back and forth for less/more gain until you find the sweet spot.
You can also set the drive on your pedal to 9 o'clock to add some more crunch to your distorted amp
@@plumbummusic2051 Hey thanks alot fella. I've def come a long way with my knowledge since leaving that comment but I appreciate the reply
Dude you are a fucking wizard!
I mean I know its easier than ever to obtain these sounds nowadays,
But awesome!!!
And all ur videos ive seen I'm like I wanna see him playing.
This is the first one I've seen you shredding awesome job bro.
Like and subscribe
Dude all these tone check videos are great!!! You should definitely do some megadeth!! That would fit right In🔥
Thoughts on how to get RTL tone with a Marshall JVM?
Do you happen to have any opinion on the Children of Bodom sounds and music? Would be interested in hearing your two cents on those.
I would have voted for Mastodon! Do Mastodon tones!!! Subscribed!
Amazing video!!
Do you think is it possible to achieve that kind of marshall tones on a peavey 5150?
The 5150 shares the same sort of hot rod Bassman lineage as Marshalls, so it's very possible. You might have better look with the rhythm channel set to crunch for the earlier albums.
@@PlagueScytheStudios wow bro! Thanks for your kind answer! Love your channel 🤘🔥
I'm just really getting into pedals and learning. Would you mind telling me the Reverb settings on Kill Em All and Ride The Lightning? You sound Killer man! I really need your help with the Reverb settings PLEASE?
Any generic room or hall style reverb will get in the ballpark. All I was doing here was approximating the combination of "amp in the room" and 80's studio reverb sounds you here on those albums. I had the levels at or below 30% and a length of no more than 1.5 seconds.
@@PlagueScytheStudios Awesome! Thank You!
You did amazing on the tones, but i gotta point out that James Hetfield's Electra V was the bolt on model
Speaking of early Megadeth I’m curious if you’ve discovered anything about KIMB. That album still raises the hairs on my arms. The guitar tone is often so sharp like a knife I kind of want to know more about that album for inspiration for my own tone.
Dude I can't believe at how perfect this sounds, just think you could've used a more pronounced reverb in the ride the lightning
Hell yeah man
Absolutely loved your last Metallica video and the same with this one, have you thought of doing the same for Peace Sells by Megadeth?
A Megadeth video is on my long term wishlist, though it would probably be for the Rust In Peace era. Everything before that featured a fairly straightforward JCM 800 rig, but Dave's later rack rigs are what really interest me.
I just bought a carvin mts 3200 I think the tone is pretty reminiscent of the Megadeth sound. Am I wrong?
Do Megadeth RUST IN PEACE!
@@PlagueScytheStudios I really hope you get time to do that in the future! Dave has said that he used 800s for the recordings of RIP (It certainly has that Marshall-y fizz) but live I know that they both used Bogner Triple Giant preamps (In one of the vault videos on youtube, you can see it, it's silver/metal colored with strat style knobs in several different colors. I think it's the one from the gig they did in either Ventura or Riverside) .. For Countdown (at least live) they both used CAE 3+ Preamps. For the RIP tour as well as the Countdown tour, they used VHT2150 poweramps as well.
As for this video, you fucking nailed it. I especially loved the Lightning tones. That Trapped Under Ice riff sounded spot on!
Good job,
Cheers!
@@PlagueScytheStudios Peace Sells or Killing is my business please!!
Thank you that was very informative as your video about the valvestate and death . I also made a video where I covered Deaths overactive Imagination and your expertize helped me to get closer to the original .Great channel 👏👏👏
The KEL and RTL stuff sounds great, and very close. Cant criticize that at all.
IMO though the OCD/v30 setup sounds very good as a tone in its own right, its missing the wizard kerrang and the seething high midrange character, and is perhaps a bit more fizzy. You did a great job getting close, but there's a reason they can charge that much for their amps - you can't truly nail a wizard tone without a wizard.
Wow, now that I know the Lextac is based on the Ecstasy, I just realized that it's supposed to be pronounced "LEX-TA-SEE" not "LextaK," Nice touch Lepou...
I thought the same, but I cannot break myself from pronouncing it the way it's spelled haha
I dig it.
I thought load-Garage were done with Rectifiers?
do you think James used wizard rig on s&m?
If I'm not mistaken James used a ds1 to boost his amp
Wonderful great 👍 job question how would you like to be interviewed during a livestream on my channel ?
Really inforamtive channel. I am curious, are you in a band or are you a bedroom musician with a love for gear and technology? It looks you have a passion for that part of music making. I stumbled over a ton of useful information in here. Great job dude.
Im just an average Joe who nerds out to this kind of stuff. I have original music, but haven't played in a band since high school.
ah ok. I was junst wondering because of that massive amount of gear I see in your videos. I am bedroom musician learned that there is no need to buy expensive amps and stuff too get a good sounding song done. Gear (Vst, modeller) is so good these days that it doesn't really matter anymore. No offense dude. I know there is a never ending debate about "sound" and "real amp tone" and I dont want to start another discussion about this topic here. We are men and need our toys ;)
18:30 The '65 Creambacks weren't invented until 2012 or something. I think you mean the G12-65 which came stock in earlier JMP & JCM800 cabinets before they got replaced by the T-75's. Although they have a similar name they are extremely different speakers.
Hnnnnng .That tone tho. Making me wanna go blow some more cash on a VH4 and a Wizard Modern Classic.
Just get a Ceriatone Gargoyle. They're absolute beasts.
The Wizard is incredible! Nothing like it !
dude the mastodon one is going to be sick. but why only 2002-2009? great video as always. i didn't even know they used wizard amps.
Because that time frame covers my standard 3-4 album video format, and it was right before Bill and Brent started getting heavily endorsed by exceedingly expensive brands (e.g. the Friedman Butterslax, Brent's Deizel VH4, etc). It also covers my favorite material of theirs, so if I never get to the later stuff I won't feel too bad.
@@PlagueScytheStudios oh ok. that makes sense. I'm still excited, just curious. im still confused about Brent's terrors. i think he's using a different kind than what is available to the public. i heard him say on Dean Delray's podcast that his terrors were 30 watts and switch down to 15 and that he uses two of them. so knows. I also heard they're based on marshalls but not sure which ones. i do know that a 30 watt version of his head would be badass and would sort of be the ultimate marshall tone for my personal use.
It's hard to say really. It may be a similar situation to Jim Root where he doesnt even tour with his signature head - the most recent Rig Rundown I say still had him blending Marshalls with the VH4. That's just one of many reasons I tend to roll my eyes at signature gear.
Plague Scythe Studios yeah same. I’ve noticed that DevinTownsend doesn’t really use his delay pedal for anything other than droning stuff.
@@wheresallthezombies To be fair, Dev said the point of that pedal was to allow him to have easy access to his ambient sound without his AxeFX. So for situations like jamming at home or at a friend's house where hooking up the AxeFX would just be awkward. He uses it, just not live.
i didnt know reload was done on marshall/wizards! learn something new everyday
Mesa 2C+ and Wizards for the main rhythms
@@Justice_Hammer Wasn't it mostly the Mesa Triaxis?
how long did it take you to learn all of this stuff?
Yeah im pretty sure they stated they were modded JMP's but i could be wrong
Disturbed's guitar tone has always baffled me.. I feel like they do stuff much differently, probably lots of it is digital.. but how they get such a clean but heavy distortion, especially on their most recent two albums. Drop C#, C , and even B but it doesn't sound fuzzy at all. It sounds crisp and clean but very much distorted and heavy without just sounding like noise, you can hear the notes perfectly
Perfect example of not scooping the mids, and a tone that may not be amazing on its own, i use a similar tone most of the time, though i have to boost bass frequencies when playing by myself.
I haven't tried every pickup available nowadays, but EMGs are the best I've ever tried for metal distortion.
TRIPxCORE fishman fluences. Change my mind.
@@joshuasalgado4694 I actually haven't tried those yet. I have wanted to.
TRIPxCORE I’m assuming they’re better considering how many people that played EMGs have switched over to fishmans.
I need to buy some seamour duncan pj pickups or fishman pj pickups for my 1992 Ibanez roadstar ii bass on my amp my highs at 8 my lows at 8 and my mids at 3 and od at 10 for an insane slap tone I just want a more aggressive Cliff Burton tone
TS Mini is actually based on the 808...
The perfect guitar for early Hetfeild-tones would probably be a Gibson 70s Flying V in vintage white, either with a Seymour Duncan invaders set or a Gibson Dirty Fingers in the bridge position.
Pair with a greenback loaded 4x12, Marshall JCM 800 and a tubescreamer/proco rat and you're set
I read he used Seymour Duncan Didsortion pickups in his Electra flying V. He had Invaders in his Jackson King V
I think g12-65's nail it
I am Fade To Black , and I approve of this video due to the Fade To Black sections
FTB is the GOAT thrash ballad (and the ballad in general)
@@paul_henderson the outro solo is the greatest guitar solo ever
@@FadeToBlack1989 Not the most technical yet very immersive and meaningful. Best Fade version on liveshit Seattle '89
@@paul_henderson I have to say the greatest live version for me is Seoul 2006.
@@FadeToBlack1989 Best Battery ever - Rock am Ring 06 (cause it's a full song with the middle part i dig so much). Also, wish they played full Phantom Lord. If you love it too check the 10 minutes version, I could listen to it forever - Phantom Lord Interlude (Extended). And perfect for a ringtone. So trippy and surreal. Sounds very Mustaine ish like This Was My Life
Tone chasing is fun. But its endless. Stacking Dirt, is my obsession. OCD involved of course.
is that cliff?
You can probably pull off an Obituary sound with the Rat and Marshall clone
Kill Em All’s tone is so thin it’s usable in drop F. Also those old Electra guitars are essentially U.S. quality considering they were Japanese made from the lawsuit era.
Its funny I have an Ibanez Roadstar II RB650 bass that was made in the 80's when the lawsuit era was still going on then Ibanez quit making Roadstars because they looked exactly like a p bass then the soundgear basses were a step up with active electronics. I want a lawsuit era Ibanez destoryer explorer bass which are hard to find now because Ibanez wont make them again. I'm a Ibanez aficionado.
Fuck yes!
Whoa love the sounds ... Personally think the Mesa sound is more interesting...
Learning to dial these tones in (and this video is invaluable for that) can help better flex those creative juices and give you starting points to fit the mood of your song/piece better.
Personally, Load onwards really don't cater to me. I just can't actually feel that music anymore, am no longer interested in their lyrics, etc. But hey others swear by them - Music is subjective after all...
Anyway, I actually dug the Kill em all sound, its just like buzz saw ... Will certainly try it out :)
22:07 No Diezels in the Load/ Reload era.
Yeah you said it, they totaly proccessed the shit out of those recordings in a way thats hard to recreate
I agree that kill em all isn't the greatest tone. It's not terrible... It's just kinda whatever. Before they really started to hone their own sound in my opinion. Ride the lightning tone is LEGIT tho lol.
Wizards was only one of the amps used on load/reload.
You need even vox acs, lol. Along with anything bob rock and hetfield tried. The mesa mark IIC+ was the staple, trem-o-verb, the wizard...etc.
I am one of the few that I think the garage.inc is really nothing to write home about. Especially it's electric etc.
Two notable exceptions are really turn the page and mercyful fate medley. Whatever they did there just worked.
Kill 'Em All had the first Djent tone. Change my mind.
ᛞᛖᚾᚾᛁᛋ ᛏᚱᛟᚹᚨᛏᛟ that was just a Marshall plexi and greenback cabs
lmao
Nah. Rush did.
th-cam.com/video/XAqlgC8yNIc/w-d-xo.html
@@gingataff lol
You nailed it dude! Don't listen to the naysayers. If you don't have any, its cause you ain't doin shit
RTL is pretty close but way way less top end on it. Listen to the isolated tracks from the album.There really isn't a ton of treble content.
The parts using impulse responses were EQ matched to the isolated guitar tracks on Creeping Death...
@@PlagueScytheStudios The part with the impulse response sounds really good, but I really think you could get a lot closer than you already did even before the EQ match. Listen to the pick attack especially. That crunch actually comes from rolling off the treble knob a bit, not all the way down obviously, but a little more than you'd think.
@@PlagueScytheStudios Props on KEA by the way, I don't think I've heard anyone else nail it to that degree.
I have the same les paul. I didn't know that rat can sound like that.
Or... 1 x metal zone
How are you using the MXR EQ when you have no cables plugged into the input or output jacks???? Lol. SMH.
i thought this guy was guthrie govan 😂
You should have stopped with Kill em all and Ride.. lol.. no need to disgrace it with Load tones.. jk