Sony ZV-E1 Hands On Review | Content Creator Dream Camera?
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- Sony ZV-E1 Initial Review | Content Creator Dream Camera?
Insane specs, 4k120, and crazy new features in a compact body...dream camera or overheating nightmare.
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Shot on ZV E1
1:59 First Impressions
2:47 Hardware
5:59 Specs and Features
10:24 New AI Features
12:38 There's a problem
14:05 Autofocus
15:19 2 Massive Issues
17:39 Should you buy it - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Best review out there
Appreciate that! Means a lot
I agree. Pointed out the good as well as the bad.
@@learningcameras Let me know if you do this next year. I have all the gear and can assist you for free.
Used to go there every year, but not for a while.
Hi Dan - So I watched most of the new ZV-E1 reviews. Man, you just nailed it - this is comprehensive (without being too technical), honest in pointing out the (serious) shortcomings which everyone will have to apply to their own needs / context, and fun. Great talking-head vs. examples balance. Thank you - this is really informative, well-done, v. useful review!
Means so much!!! Really appreciate that man
when comes to overheating test I can always trust your words
Thanks! I just take it outside and shoot lol...Basically what I do almost every day
Dan, this is the best review I have seen yet on the ZV-E1. Great work, thank you!
Means a lot! Thanks Chris
Great video man, I just got mine in today. That’s awesome you got to record at Daytona and with Hayes very cool man
Appreciate that!!! He is
Hi Dan. Thank you for the great video.
For client work (photo, video, outdoor, but also real estate) and also vlogging and run and gun, would you more recommend S5II or which camera (or if money is not a factor, EOS R3)
Hey! Appreciate that. So the S5II is solid but right now I'd say the Canon R6II is probably the best for doing anything because it has full frame oversampled video up to 4k60, great Ibis, amazing autofocus, and 24mp should be plenty for photography. I have both the R6II, R5, and R3 and rarely use the R3 because unless you need to shoot 30fps, the R6II can do just about everything else at less than half the price. Go with the R5 if you need more resolution although it has a 30 minute record limit for video which is annoying
@@learningcameras Thank you Dan for the fast feedback. So missing on the R6 II compared to R3 is only: 4K 120 and burst shooting not as great, but mostly great enough. Low light and ibis is the same on both? R6 II has also no record limit, no overheating and no 4K 60 APSC crop, correct? Thanks again and all the best from Thailand 👋
P.S.: wobble with wide lenses is a problem and not as good as S5 II and ZV-E1 or also usable at 15 / 18 / 20mm (vlogging)?
The wobble can happen on Sony too but it's usually at the extreme wide angle so 16mm or wider with Ibis on
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Great review. It’s definitely a cool camera, but mostly it feels exciting as a glimpse at future cameras. I’m tempted by the low light, and dynamic stabilization, but other that that I honestly feel more tempted by the fx30 as a b cam despite the cropped sensor. I’m going to hold out for next full sized camera to offer that new stabilization.
Exaclty
Too expensive. Maybe if it was 1499 will be a gaming changer. Also can you imagine if there was wifi for live streaming or not any overheating issues? Finally I think Sony should start making smaller Full Frame lenses and lighter. Good video.
You'd be asking for too much at $1499. This isn't suppose to compete with the Canon R8, two different camera bodies targeted at two different audiences. If they did do $1499 USD, it would be heavily crippled and lacking features and then everyone would still complain
Thank you Dan I have the A7sIII thinking of getting another camera as well as keeping the A7sIII. I'm in Australia and our summers get really hot, so I think the A7IV would be a better option for me. As always bro I come to your channel for awesome reviews and your 100% honesty on the products you are reviewing. 🤘Please keep up the great work!
Means a lot! Yeah, the A7IV, FX3, or FX30 would probably be a better choice if you are doing long recordings in the heat. All the best!
Love your review, I appreciate the honesty, unlike some of your counterparts, who swears every new release is the greatest thing since sliced bread.. Keep up the Good Work..
Hey Dan, great content as usual. Do you know if the battery on the ZV -E1 will last longer than the Canon R8’s battery? At 4k 24p. Since you had some time with both the cameras.
Thanks! The Sony will definitely last longer. Canon put their small battery in the R8 while Sony used the larger battery from the A7 series
@@learningcameras Thanks for the reply Dan! Much appreciated.
wow 5 min 60fps and overheat, NO NO I lvoe how you are so honest, lots of youtubers they are just saying ill buy it, but because they only film indoors, but a filmmaker like you I LOVE YOUR REVIEW
Thanks!!! Obviously I get some pretty intense sun where I live so take my results with a grain of salt haha but I use the camera in real life situations (this was not an overheating test) and it definitely struggles outside especially with 4k60. I try to just use cameras like I would use it if I bought it and see how they do.
One follow up question to this: once the camera overheats how long does it take until you can shoot again?
And did you possibly test how it performs in direct sunlight with bursts of shorter clips instead of a single 5min one?
@@alexanderschlosser7987 It depends but it needs to be powered off and ideally out of direct sunlight to get time back. It will do much better with shorter clips assuming it is not in direct sunlight and the camera is powered off in between
Really worried about the overheating as I live in a fairly hot climate
Very good review .👍
Great video!
Hi You mentioned in the video that, you'll drop shortly your toughts on 1080p video possibilities with ZVE1 are you planning it? thnx!
Great info! Does this camera support 24-bit audio recording?
I'm almost positive it can, and you should even be able to use the K3M or anything else that uses the digital audio from the hotshoe but I haven't tested or verified it yet
@@learningcameras thanks, I sure hope so!
Love the review! How easy is it to switch between Camera modes 1/2/3? I really like how fast switching with the dial is on the A7SIII
Not as fast for sure. It does have some quick access modes but they are the gimmicky ones. To actually get to the full camera modes, it will take a few seconds with a menu trip
@@learningcameras ah bummer. Thanks for the reply!
would you please compare with Sony FX30 Review
I’m looking to up grade my Sony NEX-5R and looking to get into photography, was considering this camera, but I’ll just wait for the A6600 replacement! Hopefully it’s soon! 😢
Well done. I know that the Dynamic Image Stabilization adds a crop - But does it also add pixel binning (Line skipping) ?
Thanks! It doesn't seem to change the quality by anything noticeable...it's a pretty small crop so it's only noticeable with wide angle lenses
I think that Sony is trying to squeeze this 12mp sensor as much as possible and after that they will start to implement the sensor from the A1 in more cameras (maybe 2-3 years from now).
If you ask me the best Sony sensor for video to this point is the one in the A1. It gives much more possibilities for cropping and oversampling, the IQ is better and I think it has less noise too. I also think that they caped it at 32000ISO in SLOG3 for a reason and the reason is that it destroys the 12mp sensor cameras at high iso without having that noisy gap between 3200ISO and 12800ISO.
Also Sony is now moving towards more specialized products in order to make us buy more cameras. Why selling us 1 camera for photo and video when they can sell us 2 (one for photo, one for video). Panasonic and Nikon started making the cameras we want when they went downhill with the $$$, Sony are in a point where they can do whatever they want without caring too much for the user. This means - no software updates, no price competition, ... as a Sony user I am following Panasonic moves closely :D
Smart, honest, well balanced review. The only review I’ve seen to give a good prediction as to why the 120p wasn’t available from launch.
Appreciate that! Yeah, I really think it's more to do with SD cards not being able to handle 422 10bit and ALL-I. So either they need to compress it more or eliminate the option. I've seen a few people say overheating and I doubt overheating is the concern because who records 120p for more than a few seconds anyway.
It's cause it's gonna overheat in like 5 min and sony wants all the great press and everyone gawking /pre ordering this thing before they slap you with the... oh sorry yeah about the 120p overheating thing... our bad.
@@bailey.nt86 lol true.
Good review. A SmallRig cage will end that strap tab problem.
Ha, just noticed the t-shirt.
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Would you recommend the zv-e1 over the canon r6 mark ii for doc/vlog content? Keep up the good work
Thanks! If you are mostly shooting video, then probably. If you are more hybrid photo/video, I tend to use the R6II a lot for that
I’m still thinking A7iv for my unboxing videos. This seems cool but the overheating and up scaling sound like red flags for me.
Hi Dan and thanks for this great video.
Just one question about ISO in S-Cinetone: are the ISO as good as in SLOG-3 ?In this mode, is it also better to start with the first dual ISO(640 I think) or can we start in S-Cinetone at Iso 100? And what about the second dual ISO in S-Cinetone ? Ca we easily record at ISO 12800 as well or better to stop at a lower ISO ? Many thanks for everything you are doing on your channel 😀
So ISO performance in SLOG-3 is great as long as you're at the BASE ISO. It's only when you start increasing beyond that where the camera uses less noise reduction and you end up with a bit more grain. If you can shoot at base iso, (800 and 12,800 on this one), don't worry about the noise in SLOG because it's low. Now, if you want to shoot at 3200 ISO, it will look super grainy in SLOG so definitely switch to S-Cinetone which will use more noise reduction or just move to the next base ISO in SLOG at 12,800 which will actually have lower noise than 3200. Hope that makes sense! Appreciate it
@@learningcameras thanks for your explanations, Dan👍🏻😁
The overheating issue will probably be a dealbreaker for me. I’ll buy the A7S 4when it comes out but that’s probably six months away. What do you think I should do in the meantime? By a a7s3 used and then sell it when it’s time to upgrade?
I would be surprised if we see an SIII replacement in the next year. Sony has surprised me before but that is not a camera that needs upgrading just yet. They could firmware update it with most of the new features from the E1 which should be easy since they have the same sensor and processor and that would easily buy them another year. There isn't any big competition for this camera right now other than directly from Sony with the FX3 and maybe this new E1.
I would really love to hear more about the photographic capabilities of the e1.
Image quality is solid but resolution is very low for most things and without a mechanical shutter, using it in bad artificial lighting or shooting sports/wildlife is going to yield issues
@@learningcameras Thanks so much for your answer! I totally agree - the inclusion of a mechanical shutter would make this a much better overall package.
Can you please test if the overheating issue can be bypassed by using a dummy battery with external power (like the Anton Bauer Titon Base for example)?
At that point, just get the FX30 or FX3
Have this camera and it is a joy to use. Super easy. The only issue is, what is the best lens for my ZV-E1? Just one lens to do it all. Still searching for it.
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You can get super zooms that cover a crazy focal length but the quality isn't as good. This one is my favorite: bhpho.to/421lzET
It just doesn't give you much on the wide angle side
I'm still confused about what I want to buy. This or the FX 30? I wish ZV E1 came with higher megapixel count and a mechanical shutter. I tend to crop in a lot when it comes to photos and videos.
I'd still go with fx30 due to video focus, I'm more concerned over heat on ZvE1 once 120p4k release😅
Only thinng that holds me back is the HDMI (lack of monitor to record external RAW) & the lower MB 4k recordings.. compared to the A7S3 & FX3. Damn I would buy it in an instant! Do you think you can do professional work with the zv-e1? like short films, feature films, weddings etc etc?
Honestly if you are trying to do that stuff, you should get the FX30. This is a pretty niche product...definitely more focused on vlogging and short form content creation. If you need a solid B-cam, get the FX30 or FX3 if you can afford it
@@learningcameras I decided to go with the ZV-E1. I mean I don't even use 12bit PRORES RAW with a monitor, and only shoot in 4k24/30 for filmmaking and social media. I also use 4k60/120 in bursts anyway.. like a few seconds for example to get some slow mo footage.
and the budget is also a bit to low for an a7siii/fx3 xD my biggest thing I don't like will be the grip I think.
@@SianCKBhow do you like the ZV-E1 so far? In a similar situation.
Excellent review! Luv how u placed a ? Mark after the title. Well, u are right. This is not the camera for me. Too bad. Artificial Overheating Genius--that's the way I describe it from the buzz on the internet. Sad, with Sony's tech engineering background that they really don't make all of their products A+. Their background in heat sinks and coolant fans evidences that when they want to, they can and will make solid products. Even the recent FX30--sure its apsc--shows that they are aware, sometimes, that serious filmmakers do exist in that neverland out there. Let's hope that Sony listens to reviewers like u and make some major changes fast before their competitors like Panasonic-Lumix take a huge slice of their potential market share! 😎😎
I saw the first reviews, and almost pressed the 'order' button... but then the mention of overheating came up. I do some event video work... and if you are in the middle of something like a hot air balloon festival, having only a few minutes of shooting before the camera turns off is a significant limitation, unfortunately. Other than that, it would be almost perfect.... Lack of a second slot? I can work around that with the HDMI recorder here...Do dual recording... but having it shut down in the middle of a launch? While waiting for someone to get to the later? Not good..
I have a GH6 as my main camera but thinking about picking this up as a side full frame camera with a little better autofocus and shallower dept of field option because of the price, but I also live in hot Florida. But dang 5 min in Florida heat? that's a little worrisome
Yeah, I mean the 5 minutes was in direct sun in 4k60 continuously recording but that was pretty low. In 4k24 I usually got 20+ minutes in direct sun and longer in the shade
@@learningcameras I see! I was also wondering what quality you were shooting, was that the highest quality? I'm curious if more compressed format like at less bit rate h264 or h265 might make it work less hard.
@@JuiJitsua I was shooting HS h.265. I didn't try different modes. Like I said in the video, I wasn't doing an overheating test, I was just shooting the way I use my cameras...and just trying not to baby it so I could see the limits
I am a sony shooter, and I am using the a7iv today. Some vlogs, talking head and some vids for clients.
I am between buying the zv-e1 or a new lens. (I have Tamron 17-28 f/2.8, 55mm f/1.8 zeiss and sony 85 f/1.8 today)
What is the smarter choice?
The biggest reason to get the E1 would be full frame 4k60 and 120 or if you find yourself needing a 2nd angle or backup camera for safety in case 1 goes out. If you are filming client projects, I'd be more likely to have a 2nd backup camera and rent lenses as you need them depending on the project so if you have a high end production that deserves better glass, just rent
Top notch walkthrough Dan, but in the end, I'm not impressed. It won't fit my workflow where I livestream for long periods and do video interviews, instructional videos, basically all days. I'm saving up for the FX-30 and the E1 hasn't shaked my decision at all. Very much thanks to yours, Undone's and iPhonedo's reviews. I'm well aware of all fantastic new features and if I had the money I'd bought both this and the FX-30 haha... Cheers!
Thanks! I tend to agree with you. For what I do, the FX30 would be a better fit and especially if Sony would firmware update that camera with some of these new features. There is no reason they can't technically do that and I actually think they would work much better on a higher resolution sensor like the FX30 has
Will they solve the overheating issue with a new camera next year?
I doubt they can do much. The overheating is because the camera is crazy small and doesn't have any of the heat sinks the larger cameras use
Does this camera Crop in 4k 60fps? I hope not! I'm only 7 minutes into your video, so maybe you'll touch up on that! I own the Fx30 and it's cropped and the Sony Alpha 7iv and also crops. Trying to avoid the crop.... :)
Edit: Just saw the overheating. This is a pass for me on this Sony-Ev1 unfortunately....
Nope, no crop in 4k60 on this
having no mechanical shutter is far from being a mistake. its just good business. its not at a7siii pricepoint, its a small camera, they have to pull out some big features, they cant and should not give you everything!
What do you think about Tony N's video that megapixels don't matter when it comes to noise for lowlight? I have the A7IV and was strongly considering the FX30 a few months ago, but now this camera gets dropped.... is 12 megapixel lowlight a myth?
So when it comes to photos, he's not wrong...in reality it's more complicated and depends more on the actual camera model, if there is a dual ISO or ISO irrelevant sensor, and where that trigger happens. But overall it's true for photos. However, if you are always printing, doing pixel editing (like skin touch up) or cropping, starting with a medium to high resolution sensor is usually better and if you are exporting from the camera straight to the web without noise reduction or downsampling properly, starting with a low resolution sensor will give better low light performance. For video though, it's way more complicated to the point that I would say more often, low resolution is better for video performance (although technically resolution isn't the most important factor in that). But for photos, yes, by in large, he is right that in the past 5 years, most cameras are ISO irrelevant and especially with backside illuminated sensors, they are less dependent on the pixel size (how many pixels they have) and more dependent on processing and sensor quality. They are also less dependent on what ISO you actually shoot with. Most cameras (for photos) will look just as good if you shot underexposed at 800ISO and then boosted the exposure 4 stops in post than if you shot a properly exposed 6400 ISO in the camera. But again, video is not the same
If you have an A7iv why would you get this camera or an FX30 🤔
I guess it depends on the need but that’s downgrading quite a few features
Returning my a7r5 i just bought a week ago 😅😂 what a shame there not even a rumor for a7r5 firmware to implement the zv-e1 features.
I’m not sure how to take this camera. It’s certainly bare bones. Man, I wish Sony would figure out how Panasonic is able get such great IBIS. As a small run around video camera, this is a show stopper for some.
Jason Morris Test in 30 degree it overheats in 15 minutes, it's a problem if you live in the middle east it's 40 degrees outside
Wow with this release, no firmware update for the A7S3?? Not a good news at all. Do you think the a7s3 will be killed off sooner?
I think the SIII was pretty much replaced functionally by the FX3... I'm not sure it will be killed off but maybe Sony will go more hybrid with it since the FX3 exists for video
@@learningcameras ohh I see, but yea your are right about firmware updates lately with Sony.. even the A7iv with the “new” firmware update to 2.0, it was just the new cloud based Edge Software.. man not good. I don’t own the Siii and I’ll glad I’d slowed down buying new camera bodies.
Can you use 10-20f4 on ZvE1? Would there be any issue
No, can't use APSC lenses...one of the downsides to a lower resolution sensor is there is no apsc mode in 4k
Idk you say is the same specs as the A7Siii with nothing held back, but isn’t that a camera like a 7k sensor? Meaning, whenever you crop or zoom in, you’re not going to lose any clarity.
No, the A7SIII is a 4k 12MP sensor. The A7IV would have a 7k sensor
@@learningcameras Ohhhhhhh whattt? So is that directly related to the megapixels? If you don’t mind, do you know the correlation between photo megapixels and video resolution on a camera?
And what’s the dif between a photo and a screenshot from a video?? Currently on my iPhone (different I know that’s what I mention it) instead of taking product photos - while recording my video, I just record some product shots. That way in the editing room I can go frame by frame and screen grab the exact right frame to turn into a still. It works amazingly in 4k right now. Maybe as long as my subject isn’t moving, this would work on a Sony cam as well right?
Also does the A7siii crop in on features as well? I like the A7iv having the 7k. Just feels safer. And the better cooling, higher MP. Still sounding like the better option I mean the video quality won’t be THAT much of a downgrade from zve1 right? However. I have to ask myself how often I’ll even use those features that crop in. Currently on my iPhone I’m running 4k 30 and I don’t even zoom in, only in post. So I might have to dial down my analysis and be like dude. You’re just gonna point and shoot. With studio lighting. Don’t worry about that stuff. I don’t think a7iv crops at 4k 30.
And one reviewer said a7iv has a crisper 4k than the zve1. Not sure why he said that. He doesn’t have the zve1 but he’s knowledgeable about specs and how they work. He also said crisp doesn’t mean better hahaha dammit. Idk I like crisp though I think. My mission is for viewers to see exactly how the product will look in their hands.
That was a lot I know but I appreciate any input you may have. I’m still learning over here. Been watching reviews since Dec.
what lens you use on self cam? 28mm is too close to take myself 😂
This one: bhpho.to/3yV3o62 or this one: bhpho.to/42qFn41
Thanks for this review 💪🏼 I am looking for a short b-cam for my Fx6 🎥 did you had problems with overheating? I am not sure fx30 or zve1 🫤 Best cinematic greetings from germany
I definitely had some overheating issues in warmer temps especially with 4k60. If you want to use this for extended recordings, I think the FX30 is a better camera in many ways
@@learningcameras thanks Dan, but i only have full frame lenses 😂
@@schoeferfilm they work perfectly on apsc...they'll actually look better, it's just going to be a 1.5x crop so you might need an APSC lens for an ultra wide
If Sony made an electronic viewfinder to fit in the hot shoe, I'd buy it hands down. As you know, the LCD screen is useless for critical focus, framing and exposure in bright sunny days! Why Sony doesn't offer this expensive accessory for the FX3/30 and this new E1 is unbelievable.
You can get aftermarket viewfinders. It seems that most vidrographers don't use built in viewfinders - especially not vloggers 😉
Finally a review of what I was thinking when I first saw this camera. In no way will this replace an a7s3 for professional use.
Nope. In Sony's defense, it isn't meant to but $2200 is a lot to pay for a vlogging camera as many term it to be
@@learningcameras I agree. It’s good for what it is but it doesn’t replace a fx3 or a7s3.
What camera do you use in the studio, is it A7RV?
The A7IV
16:22 can’t you just film in 1080p then uprez to 4k in post to extend usage?
Technically you can but I can't guarantee it won't overheat in 1080p since it oversamples which uses up quite a bit of processor (haven't tested that). Plus it will never look as good as shooting native 4k
Thoughts on this vs a7c?
Definitely this if you shoot video. If you're a photo shooter, it's a bit more of a compromise
I wonder if you can bend those metal tabs up a little? I know, not ideal on a new camera
They feel like they are part of the actual structure of the camera...definitely one of the more rugged parts of the body unfortunately haha
This camera suitable for external monitor(atmos ninja)..micro hdmi?
You can use it with external monitors, but the connection is just a bit more fragile so be careful not to bump the cable too much
@@learningcameras 🥺
are the 4k/60 and 120 modes cropped like the a74? is the 1080/240 in s&q mode only or is that a normal frame rate?
Nope, they are all full frame and the 240 isn't on the camera yet so I can't confirm but I think it's going to be in the normal frame rate and not just S&Q
@@learningcameras thats awesome, thank you!
4k 120 will be a 10% crop when it becomes available, per Sony’s website.
@@switchunboxing interesting...
Thank you for the honest review, it feels like a lot of reviewers are just whizzing by the overheating issue and they made a huge deal about canon’s when they released the r5 and r6. If you buy a camera over $2k you will want to use it outside, inside, and anywhere and this camera is simply unreliable.
right, pay $2,200.00 on card slot....suckas!!!!!!!
I feel like Sony has a tighter grip on influencers on youtube.
Im not really sure why everyone is hyping this thing to the moon. Here you can get the camera for about 2600 Euro, while you can get a new A7SIII for 3k or used for 2.7k. Everyone is just saying yeah its a bit plasticy but they had to cut prizes and if you compare it to the FX30 you have a well built camera for a lot less and for 2600 Euros here you can get a A7IV too, where Sony apparently doesnt have to cut prizes. Literally the first honest review I saw on TH-cam right now.
Agree. This is an honest review. Also the other TH-cam channels is like an informecial. Not objective at all. This camera is a pass. FX30 is way better.
$2,999 Canadian Dllrs for this Sony camera. $2,999 CDN for the Panasonic S5iix. The choice is clear.
I am in FL like you Dan, if you want Sony in this price range FX30 all day. A6300 and 6500 burnt me several times with overheating. Never Again!
Yep, I think they could have just firmware updated the FX30 with some of these more AI vlog/creator features and made that the ultimate content creator camera!
excellent review, helped me tp make my mind not to buy this camera since i wanted to use for video and stills, will check the a7c
Well, I might stop you with the A7c if you shoot video. Sony's latest gen of cameras like this and the A7IV have SIGNIFICANT video improvements. I'd only get the A7c if you only shoot photos
Can anyone who read this post recommend a regular channel that has done a camera review. This guy seems knowledgeable but I’m searching for a regular person type of review. I am constantly searching but recommendations would be appreciated.
This camera was propose built for new content creators, not really pros so why on earth would they choose this over the a7 4 that good for photos and videos. Are the zv1s that are much cheaper
Had no idea this doesn’t have a mechanical shutter.
can you use all the new AI features with third party lenses?
Yep, there don't seem to be any limitations with 3rd party lenses except focus breathing compensation
Do you think the R8 is a better deal for 600 dollars less?
If you also shoot photos, I'd recommend the R8. It had a few limitations with battery life and no IBIS but it's significantly cheaper and way better for photography which made it a better hybrid camera in many ways
Some of these AI specs are quite interesting. Especially that "auto framing locked on center" mode. Excellent for dynamic product shots. But as you say, its curious they went with the 1:1 4K A7S3 sensor since the IQ gets degraded with each crop of those AI features. I can't help but feel this camera would have made much more sense as an APS-C system using the 6K FX30 sensor at half the price. That would have also strongly reduced the overheating issues which are massive and total deal breakers. The obsession with full frame for video is becoming counter-productive on such small bodies.
The FX series has built in fans.
BTW, the FX3 is the younger sister of the A7S3 for professional filmmakers.
You cannot get the cinematic foreground background separation of a FF sensor with an APS/C sensor.
@@jorgruthschilling You are aware 99% of actual cinema films are shot on crop sensor Super35 cameras such as the ARRI Alexa or RED cameras? Regardless this ZV cam isn’t a professional video tool with its consumer body, i/o’s, and severe overheating issues. I’m a pro and shoot on a FX6 daily, I know what I’m talking about..
I agree with you. I think the FX30 would have been a better starting point given the problems with the SIII sensor with these "AI" crop tools and cost. My only issue with this being APSC is wide angle lenses...companies need to start making higher quality wide angle lenses or wide angle primes for APSC. You can use full frame glass for distance shots but if you need to go wide angle, full frame lenses aren't wide enough and you have to sacrifice the lens quality to find APSC options. But Sony actually has more APSC wide angle lenses than I thought though...Sony's stuck at F4 for zooms and F1.8 for primes but there are some 3rd party F2.8 zooms and wide aperture primes too.
@@learningcameras Sony has the 16-55mm f2.8 and 15mm f1.4 for APS-C.. and for video many use focal reducers / speed boosters for full frame FoV and speed. Don’t get me wrong I love full frame, and the glass options but not when they bring so many cons for such a price.
IMHO, I would not use any lenses that do not support the Sony breathing compensation feature.
Well...only if focus breathing is actually an issue with those lenses haha. Sony's latest lenses tend to have more focus breathing...maybe because they know they can correct it in post. The Sony 35mm F1.4 was one of the worst
Nice..A7s3 dual iso is 640 and 12800 the overheating is a deal breaker.
Much challenges created for other competitors.
I’d have to interview someone who picks this up over the a7iv, fx30 or even a7c - why? 😂
Hahaha. I'd pick it up over the A7c if I was mostly a video shooter but the FX30 is a better camera for sure
Realistically most people aren't at 12800 iso. So that dual gain of this sensor is almost useless. If it was at 3200/6400 that would've been more useful.
Exactly. No one wants to shoot 12800 unless they absolutely have to. I like where Panasonic is set for Vlog 640 and 4000. I wish Sony would offer their higher dual ISO the same ( I realize Sony has never mentioned dual ISO). It certainly appears Sony is squeezing everything they can out of their 12MP sensor. Why not, they created a following with the A7S3. It just feels old now. Its best thing going is 4K 60P with no crop. That’s certainly good, but the overheat issue pretty much is a turn away. What good is having 60P, when you can only use it for short durations.
The A1 has its 2nd Iso at 4,000. It's only the SIII that goes crazy high. My guess was that A7SIII noise levels were already low enough Sony didn't feel that they needed the dual iso to kick in at 4000 so they pushed it to 12,800. There are times I wish it was lower and times it's freaking amazing to be shooting slow motion in the night! I've done a few car night shoots and having that crazy iso is incredible. Wedding receptions as well
can you rig it for us to seee
I really think if you want to rig a camera, you should get a FX30 or A7IV. You basically eliminate all the advantages of the E1
hurm i just bought it, hearing about the cons make me wonder did i just waste 2200.
Nothing matches? What about S5ii?
Great camera but this shoots 4k120 full frame...the S5II is 4k60 in a crop so different beast. I'd prefer the S5II for 4k24 stuff though like interviews and documentary style shoots
@@learningcameras i think both sides have advantages over each other just like that 4k60p crop, streaming and AI features from Sony zve1. If the sony has that, S5iix has 6k open gate, Prores Raw, Blackmagic raw, anamorphic stabilization, waveforms, record straight to ssd, , streaming, class-leading stabilization, more updates, etc. At this point, I think there is a general sense of competition for fighting this match.
in 2 months all channels: why i returned the zv-e1
No.1 reason: micro hdmi
No.2 overheats now, imagine in summertime
No.3 doesn't look professional for professional job
No.4 flimsy door, no weather sealing, etc
2100 $ for a gimmick camera, no thank you
No. (85%, 1,004 Votes)
Yes! (15%, 173 Votes)
It's meant for video centric users for social media
@@truthseeker6804 so Sony doesn't want to sell it to all... :))
It doesn't have raw in photo mode at all ?
@@MrRafalEn i made a mistake, on B&H PAGE is wrong the info
Great question, can’t seem to find answer either
I was thinking the white one might stay cooler in the sun.
That would be an interesting test
Unless you live in Greenland, this camera is practically unusable outdoor in spring/summer. It’s a massive problem
That's going to be expensive item.
im returning my ZV-E1 I didn't like its picture quality now I'm confused I should buy a7siii or a7rv is a7siii gives better images quality than ZVE1?
I really need your suggestion before making my decision
The A7SIII is going to give you the same picture quality so you can look at the A7RV, you just won't get the crazy frame rates like 4k120
@@learningcameras thank you I appreciate
Shutter 4000?
No mechanical shutter at all actually
Apologies. Did I miss the price?
It's $2200. I typically don't mention the actual price in the video because 6 months down the road, maybe the price changes and I give out incorrect info. Plus we were given a range in my press info. Good news is the final price was the low end of the range. Bad news is...that's still expensive haha
@@learningcameras thanks. I have the A7s3 and the A74. As you'll agree - both awesome cameras.
Thanks for your continued great content.
why can't it do stills?
It can shoot stills but it doesn't have a mechanical shutter which means you could see rolling shutter and banding which is not super reliable
4k 24fps is the majority of our work. would like to see one rigged out.
Not sure why you would rig this and not an FX30 or FX3...seens vastly counterproductive given Sony made compromises to make this smaller and lighter
@@learningcameras rigging is about off-setting camera compromises.
@@scenesplus That's why I'm saying just buy a camera with less compromises!
@@learningcameras you're not understanding the point.
Wow 5 minutes outside!
That was 4k60 not 4k24 but it will definitely struggle in heat with sunlight
@@learningcameras thanks Dan always thorough reviews, I shoot weddings so everything is 4k50 or details at 4k120, 4k50 would still have been fine as a B cam but B cams are generally recording the long safety footage so it's not really ideal so in my opinion it's very expensive as a video camera with the limitations it has, A7S3 is just £200 more (grey import)
@@navpreetsingh8156 So yeah, this wouldn't be ideal for that. In Sony's defense, that wasn't their target audience but like I said in the review, I think they limited this a bit with the heat issues from the smaller body and the limitations on the photo side for a bunch of people who would have used it. I see this being a "dream camera" for all the vloggers and content creators for a few months and then I think this camera will fizzle out a bit in popularity as other less restrictive cameras get announced. It's a great camera for a select audience. Good news for Sony is that select audience is all youtube "influencers" so they will have plenty of Sony Influencers singing massive praises for a few months haha
best review of what seems to be a piece of disappointment. Sony better focuses on firmware updates now!
I get it, if this doesn't overheat, it literally is better than the a7siii and maybe even FX3 in almost everyway. For $2200, you can't use it professionally, really.
How is Sony able to lie and say that when they crop in, they use their upscaling, so there’s not a loss in quality? I haven’t seen that anywhere, but I remember another reviewer said that sony was making a claim.
They never made that claim to me but I did a few tests and it is a noticeable loss in quality which would make sense since they are doing a full pixel readout thus digitally cropping in and then having to make up the extra pixels to get back to a 4k readout. It's a cool feature but will take a quality hit. Now if you're shooting 1080p, you will not see a quality hit so maybe that's what they would have been referring to??? But if this feature starts making it to cameras with oversampled 4k, my guess is you will not see a quality hit when using it which will be awesome
@@learningcameras Right that’s why this just has me wanting to wait and see what they do next for the pro cameras. But I’m not sure they’ll be announced this year? If this is $2,200 though I’m not sure the successor to the a7iv is gonna stay at $2,500 😭
@@switchunboxing I don't think we will see a new A7IV for a few years. My guesses would be an upper market camera like an A9III or a A1II, and maybe a base model full frame like an A7c replacement as well as APSC cameras. That's all I think we'll see in 2023 and maybe 2024
@@learningcameras WHAT they’ve segmented their market and lineup in a really weird way then I mean they’ve got professionals wanting this vlogging camera now. They need to update their pro cameras or push out an update or that’s just not right lol
You lost me at Hummer EV… like digging up the planet for “renewables” and slave mined battery minerals is a good thing 😂
Haha, don't quite agree but either way that's definitely not the mission of the Hummer EV. It still uses up insane amounts of electricity so no one should be making the case that this is an efficient or planet friendly truck. But it's fun as hell to drive this 10,000lb beast to 60 in 3 seconds with a turning radius equivalent to a Civic! Trust me, the EV version of this truck is 10x more fun to drive than the old gas version was. Electric cars have some driving advantages with speed and the ability to have a motor at each wheel for traction
You lost me at "no other full-frame camera in this price range even comes close to matching this video specs and features"
Panasonic S5 2: under 2000$ -> 6K. No overheating, best IBIS in any camera, better display, battery etc etc etc.
The S5II doesn't come close to full frame 4k120... It has completely different strengths and weaknesses. I'm not saying it's the best camera, check out my conclusion for that, but getting full frame 4k120 for 2200 is unheard of
@@learningcameras The E1 overheats now as is... that's why Sony didn't give it 4K120.
I think they're waiting for winter on that one :)))
But let's wait and see it first.
So, did you buy the E1 with you own money, or...?
@@hayabusaTravels no one shoots 120 for more than a few seconds so I really don't think 4k120 is going to be an issue. Overheating in 4k60 is a bigger issue because I'll shoot for a while in 4k60. Sony definitely doesn't give me a camera lol... I got a 2 week loaner and already sent it back. Purchased the SIII and A7IV myself. The only camera that was given lately to creators is the S5II you mentioned so you should question some of those reviewers more haha. Personally for what I use my cameras for, I need full frame 4k60 for wide angle slow motion which is the only reason I don't use my S5II more often
Way too expensive here in Europe for what it offers. And, dare I say it, hardly competes with a decent smartphone like the Samsung S23 ultra that costs much less and offers so much more.
Drinking game: take a shot every time this content creator says "actually" xD trust me, you'd be dead by the end of the video
2200 is a to much for a vlogging camera and doesn’t have enough reliability to be used for anything other than TH-cam
For the price - 2700 euros in Europe, not worth it 😮 amazing features crippled BY inferior design
You sure its gonna be 2700? I thought its gonna be 2500 in europe or even lower
@@cashmachen4268 I checked offical Sony distributer here, it's already avaliable for pre-order for 2699.95 eur.. so yeah, Im sure
Way too many compromises - despite the hype, this camera will fade into obscurity over the next 12 months. $2,200 is a lot of money for an entry-level camera with entry-level system compromises.
Mine just overheated live-streaming in 15 minutes. It’s a joke.
That's pretty bad
Overpriced . I will wait for the a7c ii
I actually don't think it's overpriced. It's expensive but that's different. To be overpriced it would have to have less features and worse specs
@@learningcameras thanks for your reply. How is the build quality ? Is it mostly plastic like the zv-e10?
@@bijosn Yeah, It's a bit more plasticky than an A7 camera. Still has some whether resistance though
I think it’s overpriced too. Yes, it has a lot of features, but it’s unreliable as a professional tool, and none of the features work well enough (in my opinion).
This would have been a perfect every day camera for a7siii/fx3/fx6 owners to throw in a backpack and get great quality video when out and about, if it was under $1500.
I can’t imagine a customer profile I would recommend this camera to as a primary camera at this price.
With that said, many will buy it, and in a few months many will sell it. $1300-1400 used price would be a good deal.
@@GuyCassidy well, I don’t think someone should rely on a vogging camera as a professional tool. That’s where they would buy something in the fx line.
ZV-E1 seems almost pointless! I have not idea why Sony decided to make this camera. The ZV-E10 will do perfectly the same function interchangeable lens vlogging except for the new bells and whistle. Not even an EVF to differentiate it from the ZV-E10 except its full frame.