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This tech honestly makes me want to test so many characters. Hook and Seele is a given but there's others like Ratio who typically struggles with his ULT rotation but not with this setup.
At 05:58 Topaz could've killed the Howling Casket with her skill if the Howling Casket was weak to Fire. Then, Numby would've attacked Svarog for that last 3% HP.
That bit of energy was unfortunate..but otherwise this strategy is amazing! I’m glad I can actually try on of your strategies for once as I tend to miss the main damage dealer (like in your Rappa, Lingsha or Feixiao vids. I DO FIND THEM VERY ENTERTAINING AND GOOD THO)😭🙏
I ran something similar on ratio a few days ago and it does work wonders, Sunday is actually incredible for ratio. The 130 energy was always such a problem until now.
Enjoy the showcase, more like enjoy the beautifully crafted maths project. Cant wait for your Sunday guide. Speaking of extra energy, wouldnt E2 Daniel also qualify? I didn't bring bronya against side 2 of moc 12 but i felt i was doing ults much more frequently with him than i expected. I never used Tingyun with him so i cant say how big of an er upgrade Sunday is compared to her. But Daniel was burning through his ults fast enough that aven shield duration couldnt keep up with his advance forwards and i brought back luocha instead coz Daniel could capitalize on them heals thanks to higher attack frequency. Sunday really saved my acc and i am tempted to go for E1 for absolutely no reason haha. I dont even plan to get Aglaea and I am still unhappy with how no sig cone JY feels. But i just want to hug Sunday coz he helped me revive Luocha haha xD
Lisara and her nigh unparalleled cooking go brrrr. Bronya Pro Max? Nonsense. Bronya-add on, it is. Also, a question if you don’t mind me asking: would a sparkle-bro ya-sunday-carry work? Probably not very efficient, but it sounds fun.
I'm still trying to make Sunday and Sparkle work, because I refuse to bench her (kinda sad because Sunday fixes her problem, felt wasting my jade) 😤. My current strat is Sunday advance JY, JY skills, and use DDD to insert Sparkle between JY and LL, to ensure LL get both buffs. with 50% AA from Sparkle, JY will act before Sunday forward, but I'm not sure about the speed-tuning / other relic setup to make this rotation optimal, any idea if this rotation could work?
Super cool strat ! I'm bummed I only have E0S0 Topaz and no Robin, but this is actually very interesting to see how many actions you can get with that comp. Eagle really the 0 cycler set huh, will lock offensive pieces if I ever go back to farming eagle pieces for supports. Do you need a certain cone for Topaz to make this strat work ? I assume sig is her best choice there, because of how good it is, but I may be mistaken 🤔
@@krounixzthey probably meant, that bronya and sunday should swap slots, so that when using bronyas skill, you dont have to press as many keys to target sunday
What is the 160 speed threshold for Sunday/Bronya for in 0 cycling? if not mistaken thought 160 was just for 2nd action in 250av? Also noticed only Bronya is using Eagle while Sunday doesn't need it :o Thanks in advance!
Bronya with that speed + vonwacq allows her to push Robin and start concerto state early. As you can see in the video, concerto state ended in the 1st wave when normally, you wouldn't allow that. Being faster than 158 means you can get another rotation just before the enemy acts on the 2nd wave since both Svarog and the elite has 158 speed.
0 cycle players when someone has any form or anything with action advance. WE WONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN and energy
Does E4 Topaz still need the Eagle set ? Fot those who don't know: E4 allows Topaz to Advance Forward when Numby attacks, which makes attack boots as viable as the speed ones.
@@Totigno Just remember that is to outspeed a Sunday with flat 160 speed, no decimals. If the tuning fails, that means your Sunday has decimals. You'll need 1 more speed for Topaz in that case.
If Bronya's basic attack hits the Casket instead of Svarog, is that maybe a clear? That 25k dmg was ~2% of Svarog's total HP, so looks like enough to kill the Casket, and then maybe Numby gets an extra attack on Svarog
Just need to use Robin skill once she ends concerto. No need to push her again because of Svarog's bombardment. This means Bronya can just push Sunday instead.
@@LisaraScarlet I should've been more clear, I mean at 5:50 when Bronya needs to basic. If she hits Howling Casket, then maybe Numby doesn't need to waste both attacks on it?
@@justinsegawa4662 I get what you're trying to say, there's also the fact that I used a basic attack on Topaz at some point against Casket when it could've been a skill just for the extra bit of damage. Anyways, I already made a community post on how I will fix the problems and get the 0-cycle clear.
This gave me an idea. If I get 2 more bronyas than I will have e6 as an f2p. And I got Sunday today. What if I skill with bronya then skill with Sunday and just hyper buff the character
@@LisaraScarlet yeah I didnt clock that Bronyas niche of being able to Action Advance other harmonys was a thing until it was too late and I started seeing videos. Maybe one day theyll let us toggle Eidolons XD.
@@LisaraScarlet I picked e2 bronya from the selector and now I need help to re-speed tune her, she's at 148 speed atm Double 2pc speed (trying to give her sacerdos...)
investing in victory really does mean playing the long game... i was really truly wanting to skip sunday for THE Herta and jade, and i also want fugue for himeko, but UGHHHH this is such a cool showcase and the eagle utilization+infinite turn carry strat is so fun i want to try it myself. Idk what i'll do 😢
Oh lord, this combo is so OP. If I’m Hoyo’s enemy designers, I personally would add boss enemy that can hit characters everytime they got AA and push them back by 50%. Would be funny to see the devs purposely ruining AA team comp.
Goodluck getting 161 speed on the FUA set w/o sacrificing a crapton of offensive stats. And yes, there's a massive improvement if you simply used Eagle set.
I want help because i have a 100% of getting the limited banner. I dont know if i sould get sunday or the other dude. I have bronya (my first ever ten pull was a 5 star on acheron banner but. I lost to bronya) so do i pull for sunday as more support or get the other dude as my dmg since i dont really have good dmg
Sunday is better investment right now, if you don't want him there's a good damage dealer on the second half of the patch too. I would pick Sunday to get ready for the next updates with new dps
As much as I absolutely love Jing Yuan, a 1.0 carry might not be the best answer if you're lacking damage. He relies on good investment and wants to have his supports.. Sunday being one of them. If you need a brainless dps, Firefly is rerunning in 3 weeks and she only likes having one limited character (Ruan Mei) to perform well. 3.0 is featuring a damage dealer and possibly another damage dealer. Sunday and Fugue are absolute machines too. They're way better as pull value than JY is atm, even though it hurts me deeply.
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This tech honestly makes me want to test so many characters. Hook and Seele is a given but there's others like Ratio who typically struggles with his ULT rotation but not with this setup.
Especially qith his prydwen tier being lowered, it wld be interesting to see his damage qnd rotations maximised
feels like sunday is such an amazing toy for u zero cycles to play with and cook some weird shenanigans, cant wait!!
@@jbaks prydwen and their takes...
YES I immediately thought of a Ratio team with Sunday
@@daughterofgorgias7235 who is debuffing for ratio?
Speed tuning is definitely a form of art
More like people who cant breathe without 0cycle moc😂
I already know my mind is gonna be blown by this and I'll probably be too lazy to ever use it
At 05:58 Topaz could've killed the Howling Casket with her skill if the Howling Casket was weak to Fire. Then, Numby would've attacked Svarog for that last 3% HP.
Crazy showcase, Topaz hypercarry is so fun to watch
That bit of energy was unfortunate..but otherwise this strategy is amazing! I’m glad I can actually try on of your strategies for once as I tend to miss the main damage dealer (like in your Rappa, Lingsha or Feixiao vids. I DO FIND THEM VERY ENTERTAINING AND GOOD THO)😭🙏
Daaamn that's so cool! I actually lost the count of how many times Topaz took action! Immaculate speed tuning indeed brings fascinating results 🔥
It has been done perfectly. Ahh, my eyes are blessed 😊
Very cool video, i wanted to see some content of the exact same team, i like the results of it
no way.. an actual topaz carry gameplay ( THIS IS THE MOMENT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR)
I ran something similar on ratio a few days ago and it does work wonders, Sunday is actually incredible for ratio. The 130 energy was always such a problem until now.
my e2 bronya fked the whole rotation 💀💀
every time i need to speedtune anything with her i regret activating that, it makes things harder than they should be
Making me wanna farm the Eagle set more than usual now with all these eagle set techs
Enjoy the showcase, more like enjoy the beautifully crafted maths project. Cant wait for your Sunday guide. Speaking of extra energy, wouldnt E2 Daniel also qualify? I didn't bring bronya against side 2 of moc 12 but i felt i was doing ults much more frequently with him than i expected. I never used Tingyun with him so i cant say how big of an er upgrade Sunday is compared to her. But Daniel was burning through his ults fast enough that aven shield duration couldnt keep up with his advance forwards and i brought back luocha instead coz Daniel could capitalize on them heals thanks to higher attack frequency.
Sunday really saved my acc and i am tempted to go for E1 for absolutely no reason haha. I dont even plan to get Aglaea and I am still unhappy with how no sig cone JY feels. But i just want to hug Sunday coz he helped me revive Luocha haha xD
E2 DHIL definitely works with Sunday. Don't think you need Bronya for them.
Lisara and her nigh unparalleled cooking go brrrr.
Bronya Pro Max? Nonsense. Bronya-add on, it is.
Also, a question if you don’t mind me asking: would a sparkle-bro ya-sunday-carry work? Probably not very efficient, but it sounds fun.
It can work but definitely sub-optimal.
Recently got sunday and now i finally can use topaz as dps🎉
7:22 i wish bronya will finish here
Inb4 it doesn't kill.
@@LisaraScarlet with robin ult and bronyas 100% crit rate i think it does
I'm still trying to make Sunday and Sparkle work, because I refuse to bench her (kinda sad because Sunday fixes her problem, felt wasting my jade) 😤. My current strat is Sunday advance JY, JY skills, and use DDD to insert Sparkle between JY and LL, to ensure LL get both buffs. with 50% AA from Sparkle, JY will act before Sunday forward, but I'm not sure about the speed-tuning / other relic setup to make this rotation optimal, any idea if this rotation could work?
Good luck soldier o7
I am in the same boat as you I refuse to bench her
Considering Sparkle's advance is only 50%, she could be the fastest instead with Sunday just behind her.
Same boat here as I refuse to bench her, still gonna go for her E2 at the very least
Super cool strat ! I'm bummed I only have E0S0 Topaz and no Robin, but this is actually very interesting to see how many actions you can get with that comp. Eagle really the 0 cycler set huh, will lock offensive pieces if I ever go back to farming eagle pieces for supports.
Do you need a certain cone for Topaz to make this strat work ? I assume sig is her best choice there, because of how good it is, but I may be mistaken 🤔
Nothing beats her own signature for her currently.
Thanks a lot, guess I'm gonna ruminate losing that 75/25 for the next year or so now huh...
Pain peko, will wait for the revenge match
Hello, i just saw aglaea kit & her spd is carzy like around 240+ so will we be able to spd tune her with sunday ? Thanks you, btw Topaz Supremacy 🛐
I have all the supports, but i don't have Topaz, can i pull that off with Jing? I really like him and i wanted to do cool plays with him.
Jing Yuan doesn't need to do Eagle set strat. Refer to my previous vid.
slight optimization you could've done to your team: swap bronya and sunday so you don't have to have to click so much to advance sunday forward :D
that defeats the whole point why do you think bronya is in this team to begin with
@@krounixzthey probably meant, that bronya and sunday should swap slots, so that when using bronyas skill, you dont have to press as many keys to target sunday
*sigh* time to farm an actual eagle set, my topaz has 120spd and i was struggling to 0 cycle with her in this team so this is my sign 😂
is the triple robin ult tech necessary here? i was thinking to run the same team with sparkle as opposed to bronya and the 180 speed fast robin tech.
@@vae9805 Necessary for this strategy at least.
@ i see, it's quite expensive so i was wondering. thanks a lot!
I farmed a 168 spd eagle set for my Sparkle, that’ll have to be enough Shenanigans for me 😅
What is the 160 speed threshold for Sunday/Bronya for in 0 cycling? if not mistaken thought 160 was just for 2nd action in 250av? Also noticed only Bronya is using Eagle while Sunday doesn't need it :o Thanks in advance!
Bronya with that speed + vonwacq allows her to push Robin and start concerto state early. As you can see in the video, concerto state ended in the 1st wave when normally, you wouldn't allow that. Being faster than 158 means you can get another rotation just before the enemy acts on the 2nd wave since both Svarog and the elite has 158 speed.
0 cycle players when someone has any form or anything with action advance. WE WONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN and energy
Does E4 Topaz still need the Eagle set ?
Fot those who don't know: E4 allows Topaz to Advance Forward when Numby attacks, which makes attack boots as viable as the speed ones.
You won't need Eagle set anymore but the speed requirements becomes 128.1+
@LisaraScarlet good to know, thanks. I will definitely try it
@@Totigno Just remember that is to outspeed a Sunday with flat 160 speed, no decimals. If the tuning fails, that means your Sunday has decimals. You'll need 1 more speed for Topaz in that case.
Can you make a video going over the more in depth topics for people trying to learn the game on a deeper level if you dont already have one?
The best one to learn is how the speed and action forward/delay works. I made a guide for that here th-cam.com/video/8AGN-L2ypiA/w-d-xo.html
@LisaraScarlet Thank you very much!
Hi lisara, if i have e0s1 sunday and e0s0 jy, which one is better, e1 sunday or s1 jy?
E1 Sunday.
If Bronya's basic attack hits the Casket instead of Svarog, is that maybe a clear? That 25k dmg was ~2% of Svarog's total HP, so looks like enough to kill the Casket, and then maybe Numby gets an extra attack on Svarog
Just need to use Robin skill once she ends concerto. No need to push her again because of Svarog's bombardment. This means Bronya can just push Sunday instead.
@@LisaraScarlet I should've been more clear, I mean at 5:50 when Bronya needs to basic. If she hits Howling Casket, then maybe Numby doesn't need to waste both attacks on it?
@@justinsegawa4662 I get what you're trying to say, there's also the fact that I used a basic attack on Topaz at some point against Casket when it could've been a skill just for the extra bit of damage. Anyways, I already made a community post on how I will fix the problems and get the 0-cycle clear.
@@LisaraScarlet Oh I get what you meant now by the extra Robin skill, I see the vision!
Are you hyped by The Herta? Apparently she can bring back mini herta to MoC
I don't look at leaks but The Herta is erudition so I'm definitely gonna get her. Herta is also one of the chars that got my channel HSR viewers.
@@LisaraScarlet ikr i remember those herta showcases against sworm
This gave me an idea. If I get 2 more bronyas than I will have e6 as an f2p. And I got Sunday today. What if I skill with bronya then skill with Sunday and just hyper buff the character
You can try :)
Would an attack sphere be better since all three harmonies give you so much dmg boost?
You don't really get Bronya's damage boost.
I feel like i can't achieve anything till i get s5 ddd
Whoa, so Sunday really is a better Sparkle huh? He frickin recover 2 SP from ult and skill almost every single time😭😭😭
the 2sp is from his e2 and only once per battle
Is it always better to use ATK orb on Robin? I always see different takes on this but I think you are always using one
Physical with high ATK roll is best which I don't have.
So what im seeing is ... picking E2 bronya from the selector was a mistake T.T
Not really, it doesn't affect the speed tuning.
Edit: Oh wait, it does fuck up the speed tuning. RIP.
@@LisaraScarlet yeah I didnt clock that Bronyas niche of being able to Action Advance other harmonys was a thing until it was too late and I started seeing videos. Maybe one day theyll let us toggle Eidolons XD.
@@LisaraScarlet I picked e2 bronya from the selector and now I need help to re-speed tune her, she's at 148 speed atm
Double 2pc speed (trying to give her sacerdos...)
Wait, how do we change Robin's song? Lmao
It was implemented on the recent update
Is this your vioce ?
I like your voice
is e2 Bronya good? does it change the speed tooning?
It fucks up the speed tuning unfortunately.
How many cycle if i replace robin with sustain?
2-3? Not sure. Just try lol.
How do you speed tune this setup with E2 Bronya?
Unfortunately, it screws up the tuning.
@@LisaraScarlet Wish I could untoggle e2 Bronya sometimes lol
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This could be a Castorice gameplay in the future.
investing in victory really does mean playing the long game...
i was really truly wanting to skip sunday for THE Herta and jade, and i also want fugue for himeko, but UGHHHH this is such a cool showcase and the eagle utilization+infinite turn carry strat is so fun i want to try it myself. Idk what i'll do 😢
Oh lord, this combo is so OP.
If I’m Hoyo’s enemy designers, I personally would add boss enemy that can hit characters everytime they got AA and push them back by 50%. Would be funny to see the devs purposely ruining AA team comp.
Is swapping to wind set for atk boots really worth the difference between just running FUA set with spd boots?
Probably yeah, but only for 0 cycles, unless your substats on the follow up set make up for the atack loss
Goodluck getting 161 speed on the FUA set w/o sacrificing a crapton of offensive stats. And yes, there's a massive improvement if you simply used Eagle set.
I want help because i have a 100% of getting the limited banner. I dont know if i sould get sunday or the other dude. I have bronya (my first ever ten pull was a 5 star on acheron banner but. I lost to bronya) so do i pull for sunday as more support or get the other dude as my dmg since i dont really have good dmg
Are you referring to Jing Yuan as the other dude? SKIP HIM.
Sunday is better investment right now, if you don't want him there's a good damage dealer on the second half of the patch too. I would pick Sunday to get ready for the next updates with new dps
As much as I absolutely love Jing Yuan, a 1.0 carry might not be the best answer if you're lacking damage. He relies on good investment and wants to have his supports.. Sunday being one of them.
If you need a brainless dps, Firefly is rerunning in 3 weeks and she only likes having one limited character (Ruan Mei) to perform well.
3.0 is featuring a damage dealer and possibly another damage dealer. Sunday and Fugue are absolute machines too. They're way better as pull value than JY is atm, even though it hurts me deeply.
Sunday´s JP VA needs some coffee.
Bro, the Wind set carrying Lisaras content LOL.
mfw the action advance/speed based content uses the action advance gear
nah, literally bring bread to whole 0-cycle community's table
Herrscher of Sentience (识之律者) has the best 0 cycle contents and he showcases a lot of wind set techs
I don't see why the 'LOL', nothing funny, it's AA normal stuff