Asus has updated the warranty for their OLED gaming monitors to now include 2 years of panel burn-in coverage. This applies to the PG34WCDM, PG49WCD, PG27AQDM, PG48UQ, PG42UQ and upcoming models like the PG32UCDM. You'll see the change in the specification tab on Asus product page, so you can refer to that for warranty claims in the future
Does anyone know how to get the audio through from the OLED panel and the audio channel output from my computer? I never had an issue outputting from an old 4k tv and getting the built in speakers too, but if I try on this panel it's just a pass through and does not give me both outputs, which is a shame, cause the built in speakers are pretty good.
@monitorsunboxed How shaky is the monitor when you touch it or type on the keyboard or move the mouse. I just got the DELL UltraSharp 43" - U4323QE and I love the monitor, using it for mostly productivity apps. The panel looks perfect and has a matte screen which I like, but the monitor stand is really shaky and if I move the mouse fast or type too hard the monitor wobbles and it really bothers me. Just wonder if the PG42UQ has similar issues or if the stability of the monitor stand is better than the DELL 43". Thanks.
Tim, your monitor reviews are quickly becoming the English-speaking world's go-to for reliable information. That is no small feat. You should be proud of the immense respect you're cultivating in this space. I will not purchase a monitor without checking here first and that is a 100% guarantee. Well done! Bravo sir, bravo.
Actually this review was completely worthless because it tells you NOTHING about the actual problems with this display. It's just another advertisement. He doesn't mention the random black frames/flickering this monitor does FOR EVERYONE with two eyebrows who can actually SEE PHOTONS in reality. WORTHLESS. Imagine praising a junk review of a monitor that doesn't even mention that it RANDOMLY DISPLAYS BLACK FRAMES. geezus
@@youtubesuresuckscock My dude, you're one angry fellow. Tim & Steve's integrity aren't in question. They come to defence of consumers time and time again. I'm sure that if Tim was made aware of this issue, it would have surfaced. Hell, it could still surface. I seriously doubt he's a shill.
His video is very good I admit that but he is not a world's go-to for reliable information. That would be Linus Tech Tips or JayzTwoCents. His Views or subscribers are basicly not big enough to call him a information source for the whole world.
Pull back the praise by about half and, realistically, yes, HU does a great job. Did he mention the heat sink in this monitor that aims to reduce burn-in risk? Did he address RTINGS report of unacceptable input lag at 60fps? These monitor reviews sometimes run on an auto pilot of charts, graphs, and tech speak that we hear in every HU review. I’ve watched nearly every one and feel they could improve the context at times, especially if their review isn’t first to market. The RTINGS finding about input lag would be a deal breaker for many, especially as OLED doesn’t inherently have this issue. RTINGS believes it’s a processing issue it’s this monitor. Getting HU’s take on this claim is why I watched this video.
I never have enough of these videos, because let's face it, primary interface is the monitor. It's the one most important piece of the whole setup. Pick whatever GPU you want, if screen is bad it's wasted money. Pick a great screen, and on your next update you'll benefit more from it.
Couldn't agree more. Went from a Hanns-G 1440x900 office monitor to an Asus VG248H 1080p75Hz monitor to a TUF Gaming VQ27AQ 1440p144Hz monitor and the improvement each time was truly massive. A good monitor is essential. Hell, often a cheap TV can be better than some of the terrible budget monitors out there.
Had this bad boy since mid-September. It's great! Went from a 1440p IPS panel and the upgrade is amazing. I'm still in awe of all the lovely, rich details of games and movies. Deep blacks still surprise me. Definitely a worthy purchase for a first time 4K/OLED PC gamer. :)
Same! But I upgraded / maybe not an upgrade from the PG35VQ. 200 HZ, HDR10, GSYNC ULTIMATE, 3440X1440 ULTRA WIDE, but I am still loving this monitor! Higher resolution, but less HZ, but an OLED. I honestly can say the OLED has better brightness and blacks but NOT by much! This monitor is great with my RTX4090! I don't plan on getting rid of the PG35VQ though as both have a time and place! Both amazing monitors
Since this comment is a year old, I'm curious. Have you used this as a desktop monitor as well as gaming and have you had any issues with burn in at all?
I bought one of these day one. It is a beautiful monitor. I use it in my office. I also have a living room gaming PC that is hooked to my 65" LG C1 panel. Both are stunning. I really love the PG42UQ's array of inputs and also the heatsink on the back. I waited very impatiently for this monitor hoping it would live up to the hype. It delivers in spades. The only thing I don't like is the pixel-cleaning pop-up you get after 8 hours of use. I'm hoping someone figures out a way to disable that. Otherwise, this is easily the best monitor I've ever owned.
I've been waiting months for this screen, finally got one. I've been using a 40" Samsung 4K TV for years, I like the form factor. TV was only 60hz, so having 120hz now is great. For me, when I turned down brightness the text got significantly better for regular PC use. Basically anywhere over 60 in the brightness setting is very usable for me, over 90 is too bright. For working at home, I can fit everything I want on the screen at once, and for gaming it's excellent for strategy/4X games that I play. Shooters are good, buy I know some people like smaller screens. RPGs and MMOs are immersive at this size. And it you want widescreen this panel can force it, with unlit black bars since it's OLED.
The most impressive thing on display here is Tim's ability to say monitor names in quick succession or at all... I'm pretty sure barcode scanners would be envious :-)
Having owned this monitor for about a month now and using it 8 hours a day for my day job (software dev), I have to say it's been amazing, but Tim is right in that this is going to be very dependant on your preferences and what you value. Personally, the built in 4 port USB3 hub, uniform brightness mode, proper monitor sleep support, threaded camera mount and other features are things I value quite highly. However, again, Tim is spot on in that in many ways, this doesn't really fundamentally offer a vastly different experience to a C2, which can be had for a lot less money and is much easier to find. The firmware for this screen have also been pretty ropey so far, no single version has yet to nail everything at the same time but hopefully this will get ironed out pretty soon. I'm only using it at 60hz at the moment - waiting to upgrade my old 1080Ti, so I've only briefly tried HDR and 138hz, but I'm really looking forward to giving them a proper go...
Same I have had mine for 3/4 weeks and use it 8 hours a day doing Sysadm then gaming afterward. It's incredible and all the people that think the C2 is close don't use their C2 as a monitor. It's £1400 but I spend 5000 hours a year in front of it so its nothing in the long term Edit: I pay £53 a month for this monitor 0% interest free. It costs less than my Pixel 6 (Overclockers UK)
Is the text clarity an issue compared to IPS monitors? I'm thinking of getting an oled panel for media/games but would probably spend the majority of time on work(coding).
I'm glad you're going to be using this channel again, I love your reviews and content on this channel and was getting worried that it was being forgotten!
An excellent review as always, Tim! ... I do plan on upgrading to a 4K OLED, but no monitor yet has the specifications I'm looking for. Hopefully there will be a no-compromises model by the time the next generation of graphics cards comes out in a couple years, to drive games at high fps on it.
Just a few days ago I've stumbled upon this monitor and was surprised to see that you guys didn't have a review done for it yet. Very cool to see that one is up now!
Something I haven't noticed in the comments section normally - thank you so much for highlighting the panel finish - whether it's glossy or matte! As someone who likes glossy finish a lot it's a shame to see that not being adopted by many monitor manufacturers, it's always good to know what our options are.
I remember many years ago i thought "it MUST have a matte finish, how will i even live with an gloss oled TV ?!?!?!?" And now i can say for sure the glossy screen is better. It reflects a flashlight about 3 Times weaker than an anti glare panel. Just tested it this morning 😓 and thats just one aspect.
matte finish is an instant dealbreaker for me, watch this comparison video with over a million views and you'll see why: th-cam.com/video/3mTV1TOblbA/w-d-xo.html
ho wow I hate glossy finish with a passion nothing worse than having to be in a pitch black room to not be able to shave myself in my monitor ugh .... e.g. the secondary image of me in my monitor moving around is annoying
@@whismerhillgaming true, i took my light controlled rooms for granted. You mentioned your reflection and Its also true! But i got used to the faint dark mirror image because it fades away whenever the screen is in use. 👍
have the 48" model, contemplating returning it. the sleep wake up bug is just too hard to ignore. It takes from 3 to 5 min to wake up from sleep. And the firmware is 1 version behind the 42" which also suffer the same problem.
Here in Denmark the C2 is ~910 Euros and the PG42UQ is almost twice as expensive at ~1680 Euro (both with VAT). There really is no choice at that point. C2 is just much better value. Thanks for the great review!
People underestimate how reflective the C2 is. If you have any kind of light in front of the tv, you will see reflections, almost like a mirror. Even an RGB keyboard placed in front of the screen will cause reflections. Also the TV will shine light onto the top of the desk which will reflect back into the screen (depending on the color of your desk), so no matter what you will still get distracting reflections on the C2.. The C2 is really not good as a monitor because of that.
This monitor is £1400 in the UK (if you can find one). I got the C2 for £945 and much prefer the glossy screen. The Asus matte screen makes the blacks look grey and grainy when there's light present. I just got some blackout curtains for my gaming room and the C2 looks awesome.
@@imadecoy. I have seen the matte finish on both the Asus and the Alienware AW 3423DW which is a little less extreme. I didn't like it on either...and saved £450 by opting for the LG C2!
First of all, massive props to Tim for pouring so much time in scripting these videos. Best monitor reviews on TH-cam! The PG42UQ is €1750 in my country (The Netherlands), while the 42" C2 is €899, literally almost half the price.
@@alexusman it doesn't matter if display supports variable refresh rate. Some monitors can go below as 24 Hz but almost all of VRR supporting monitors supports at least 48 Hz. If video is 24 FPS it would set itself to 48 Hz, if it's 30 FPS then sets itself to 60 Hz.
Good review, I've had my eye on this monitor for a while. I'm used to using 3 monitors, so switching to one big monitor makes me hesitate to buy it. I wish there was a 32" version so I could replace my main monitor and still have some place for my two other monitors. As I look at the comments, there are many who desire a 32" OLED 4K 120hz+ gaming monitor as well, but there are none.
Update: I'll be going with the LG Ultragear 48GQ900. However, for those interested since CES 2023 and Computex many companies have announced new OLED monitors in 27", 32" and 34" formats which is good for gaming, all very pricey though
I was one of the first to get one of the PG42UQ monitors, but the speakers just exploded the first time I tried to test them and had to return it. I'm now trying to decide to keep the C2 42" or the QN90B to avoid the burn-in. I wish you had put this out before I jumped on the ~$1500 (after taxes) price. Luckily, the Samsung and LG were both $1080 (after tax) and are both fantastic, just gotta pick which one I'm keeping.
With these pixel responses you'd think they could make a 240hz one. I have to say, I'm still waiting for 32" 4k 240hz oled monitor, preferably with quantum dot conversion layer.
Great review. I do although wish that there was a separate video talking about using the PG42 and C2 as desktop monitor, some of the practical issues. I.e., when PC go to sleep the TV won't turn off right away and other things similar that could potentially be frustrating or things to think about.
There are always these 40+ inch behemots and curved 32" OLEDs or wharever that Samsung uses, but why isn't there what people really want: 30-32" 4K gaming monitor with straight panel, deep blacks and 144Hz or more. Why make everything else than what market wants?
@@MauroTamm Yes, but considering the terrible pricing of monitors compared to televisions, it really doesn't have to be extremely cost effective to be highly profitable.
Samsung uses VA panels with really bad viewing angles. The curve is absolutely necessary with those panels to preserve image quality on the edges of the screen. There are no 32" 4K OLED panels from LG because the W-OLED tech they use doesn't scale well to such a high DPI. Manufacturers know very well what the most popular monitor sizes are, and they would absolutely produce OLED panels at those sizes and resolutions if it was feasible and made financial sense to do so.
@@konga382 This. Curve is actually boon with VA panels as it almost eliminates the horizontal gamma shift. That and as you usually use monitors up close so the curve does not really cause picture geometry issues. Hell it may even reduce them in bigger screens when viewed up close. And we will get smaller OLEDs when LG manages to make them cost effective to produce. LG's WRGB OLED panel is the only sensible option to use as a monitor as it is more resistant to burn in compared to the normal pentile or RGB oleds which you see in smaller screens and phones.
I love the fact that the Asus has a matte screen coating. I don't care if it makes it look slightly better, the reflections from a glossy screen drive me crazy and it's not worth it to fight with light sources or only watch at certain times of day just for a slightly improved picture. Shame it costs so much more than what is practically an identical screen, though.
Thanks for the comparison,I am considering LG C3 and Asus PG42UQ as soon as I realised Asus has matt coating I wrote it off.I absolutely hate the washed out dull look of displays with matte coating. The reflection issue of glossy screens can easily be mitigated,but you can’t do anything about the inferior colours and contrast of matte displays. Now it’s time to sell my Alienware AW3423DWF! (I never liked ultrawide and it’s low resolution!)
For me PG42UQ is 1800 Euro, while C2 OLED is 900 Euro, my choice was a nobrainer LG C2 wich im uber satisfied! Also semi glossy finish on C2 is amazing!
@@Shadowsmoke11 Maybe I'm wrong but previous C2 I had a QN90B from Samsung and i could not stand the reflection i got from it! My room is semi lit so i have no issues with C2
Ive had my LG C2 for a year and have a weird type of burn in. If I pull up paint and fill the whole screen with certain colors, I definitely see shapes of different brightness. The OLED panel care where it shuts off for 10 minutes does not fix it, nor does leaving it off overnight. I have had it on 24/7 for the past year though, and have the OLED picture movement option turned on.
i Have since 2 days Lg OLED C2 and RTX 3090 TI MSI ... Its insane and Best for Desktop and Gaming its just insane ... LG C2 Rules.. No need Monitor anymore.. the Quality is insane... on OLED Gaming and Desktop use. And no worries its very bright... 10 / 10
I have had one since there were released. I really enjoy this monitor. I am looking forward to the next firmware update though to solve some issues. I chose this over the C2 for the matte finish - I use it as my daily driver/work monitor and I am in a well lit room so the shinier screen of the C2 would not be great for me personally. It still look fabulous. I also chose this for the Display Port input and the increased refresh rate. But Tim nails the differences pretty clearly here - and choose what fits you the best! Thanks Tim.
How many months have you had it and how are the pixels going? I also still want to do productivity on it but will need to implement the anti-burn in features. I agree, I love the matte finish because I don't want to look at myself all day in the reflection in any area that has light lol. As Tim said the matte finish doesn't affect the black levels at all.
@@damienmason3807 Had it since Sept. I daily drive it. I mitigate burn in as much as possible - I use the built in features plus transparent task bar that hides, etc. Fine so far. It will pop the pixel refresh reminder if I have played for an extended time. All good so far.
@@gregchapman5435 Cool thanks good to know. I've been looking for a new PC (4090 with 13th generation) and monitor for two months trying to get the right combo. The 138hz maximum is a bit low just don't want the 4090 to be wasted on that lower refresh rate. I looked at the new LG 45" curved 240Hz monitor but with a pixel density of only 83, it would be tragically sh#t for text clarity.
Why people continue to praise the LG C2 as a PC monitor is beyond me. I returned the LG C2 a week later, it is the WORST possible choice to use as a PC monitor. You got it totally backwards. The PC can't power manage the TV like it can a monitor, you have to manually turn it on off which alone is a deal breaker. You have to change all your settings, no fast boot, auto dimming is annoying as F and not seamless at all. Post processing due to it's TV features is not welcome in a monitor. Wonky ass menu is so daam cluttered and slow as F.
The Asus also has a heatsink on the back of the panel which is supposed to act as additional burn-in mitigation. It's also $2299 AUD, which is $500 more than the C2 here in Australia. :P
The heat sink needed more coverage in this review, I think. Another reviewer showed that it reduces temperatures of the screen significantly, so should be a good burn in prevention measure.
I wish he would've at least mentioned the big heatsink Asus has added for the OLED panel, because it may truly help reducing risk of burn-in Other than that, great video!
The VESA mount would definitely see some use on this for me instead of the foot. And the matte surface of the screen would be a given for me, I hate reflections of any kind.
Having switched from an IPS to the C2, I have to say that text clarity definitely is an issue especially early on. You absolutely need to find the right scaling setting, as 100% @ 4K is also usually much to small. That being said, once you iron out the worst kinks, discord is a big offender here, you get used to it pretty quickly. Some scaling issues remain, especially in older windows applications like installers, but that seems to be a big problem with 4K in general. ABL on bright websites is very noticeable still, but you can either disable HDR for normal windows use, or use dark mode (dark reader addon for browsers
I’d note that those who’ve owned both this and the C2 have opted to stick with the C2 and save a chunk of change (see Reddit). The value proposition just isn’t here at all on this display.
Great review. To me, the point of contention here is price. In most European countries, this monitor is around or above 1500€, while finind the LG C2 around 1000€ is not impossible. So, the price difference is so high, that you can basically buy a new GPU to get hdmi 2.1 with the price difference, and you should have a pretty modern gpu anyway to drive a 4k 120(+) hz display. If the price was closer, like 100€ of difference, it would be pretty compelling, especially if you have annoying reflections to deal with: angle adjustment stand and matte finish will make wonders in that case. But with such a big difference, it's a no go for me.
It seems that blue phosphorescent OLEDs are the key to increasing brightness and stability to negate the one primary disadvantage of current OLED technology. Also, if RGB OLEDs can eventually be scaled to larger sizes, then that subpixel layout structure would be ideal for maintaining text clarity.
ASUS has the ASUS ProArt PA32DC which has an RGB subpixel layout, however it costs $3500 and only does 60hz, but it is a great monitor for art based creators as it's 32'' size gives it a very good pixel density and being RGB, has the best color accuracy of any OLED on the market.
What were your thoughts on HDR performance with the PG42UQ compared to the C2. While the PG42UQ seems to be using the newer WBE panel with greater brightness and color volume it also lacks in HDR accuracy compared to the C2, while also not having the same set of TV features. I feel like the opinion from someone who's had first hand experience with both displays would be much appreciated here.
If you use it for gaming and a PC display - not a TV, you probably not going to care too much about HDR accuracy. Most streaming service don't even offer HDR in Windows 10 (or offer some but very hard to get them to work imo)
I've been looking forward to this video, thank you! Great video as always. In Germany the price difference is even higher. 1.7k€ for Asus against 1k€ for the C2...
Had the monitor for a month, only complaint is waking up from sleep doesnt work on my 3090 if i have 138Hz OC enabled. Asus says theres a FW fix coming ~2 weeks. Using it as a 2nd monitor with a black background, gaming and watching vids on it with a "desktop" and "gaming" presets with different brightnesses and protection settings. All static stuff like taskbar+icons are usually on my 35" 21:9 wide monitor.
for ABL on LG C2, I found quite a nifty way to deal with it, without disabling anything on the service menu. So, first up, just crank the pixel brightness to 100, then go to windows HD color setting, enable HDR. After that, scroll down on that HD color setting, and you'll see HDR/SDR brightness balance. I just turn it down to 0. This way, ABL don't really kick in when watching youtube or something because the TV thinks that you're displaying dim content while in reality you're limiting brightness through windows. You'll get much dimmer picture in SDR though, but things will kick in again once you display HDR content.
I can only agree with the other comments, your monitor tests are really great. I was about to buy the Asus PG42UQ after your review. Then the new Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 came on the market. Now I'm really curious if the Philips might be a little better. Hence my question, is a test of the Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 already planned? I would be very happy about that. Thank you and keep it up.
I thought I was going to hate the glossy of the 42" C2, never used glossy monitor before. Turns out this is the most refreshed/good feeling my eyes have been in a while. Guess matte was always giving me a bit of strain.
@@DRC92 I turned the problematic one off through service menu. But there is still a little bit ABL if your whole screen is white (very rare), but barely notice it. It's not that big of a deal for me. The alternative was spending $500 more for the Asus and the trade offs being not getting an easy/cheap store burn in warranty, tv features, or glossy coating.
Any issues in terms of productivity use? Mainly text clarity compared to IPS panels. I'm looking to get an oled as my next monitor but hear mixed opinions for work use. Is it something you can get used?
I bought a C2 when it was discounted.. I am never going back to plain monitors again.. Wow, the responsiveness, the colours. The experience... Once you go perfect black, you never get to go back.
I wonder what will LG displays do after they'll stop using BFI in their motherglass for future displays. How will they fix sample and hold's motion blur? How long till we reach CRT level of motion clarity.
13:54 Basically you are saying this is not a computer monitor, it's a TV. I could understand that statement when reviewing the LG TV's, they are not monitors and using them for other purposes could damage the screen, but this is a computer monitor, marketed as one, it should be able to display a spreadsheet or document. What is the reasoning in that disclaimer? ASUS measures with the heatsink and software tricks are not enough?.
Question in relation to burn in - We know the risks related to desktop use and burn in with these OLED panels, but I assume these risks carry over into games with static assets (World of Warcraft for example, cast maps, mini map and the like). As someone that spends a majority of my gaming time in WoW, should I just avoid OLED?
Yes. It's a junk technology. The best meat and potatoes displays for actual humans that use computers for what they were meant to be used for are the LG 32GQ950-B and the LG 38GL950G-B if you want an ultrawide. They're good sizes, they actually have SOME vertical real estate, and they just WORK. Screw HDR too. It's useless on the PC. It never works.
I'm also on the exact same boat as you. Primarily playing WoW and destiny 2, and then diablo 4 when it comes out. All of those games have static screen elements like maps, action bars, etc. I don't know what to do!
I've been rocking a Philips BDM4037UW since 2017, not sure I can deal with a ultrawide.. Was really hoping for something special this these LG panel OLEDs
Great review, and if it weren't for the fact that I spend a lot of time with static elements on my screen, thus making the risk of burn-in feel too great, I'd grab one in a heartbeat.
Thanks Tim for the hard work. It is appreciated. Glad to hear this channel is being resurrected. I'm currently in the market for a large Oled for PC gaming.
I'm in the market for an oled 4K gaming display,everyday I check reviews for different models & I always look for your review of that particular model. You're doing gods work lol. Hopefully you do the review for LG Ultra Gear 48gq900-B next. Cheers!
So ya. The Lg c2 42 is discounted and I got it for $999 at best buy on sale. Better picture in games, no matte screen. I would be happy with Asus, but it is not worth $400 more than Lg oled tv. I play games on this thing, not word process on white backgrounds.
Good review! But there are some things you failed to mention/investigate. A significant advantage of the PG42UQ vs. the C2 is the inclusion of PC power management. On the C2 you have to turn it on with the remote, and either turn it off manually or let it idle to sleep. Presumably the PG42UQ supports PC monitor standby. But does it support this on both the DisplayPort and the HDMI connections, or just the DisplayPort? Did you test that this is working? Because it's a major reason to get the Asus over the LG. Someone has written an app to control the LG power over the network (LGTVCompanion) but it's a hack (no shade meant to the author). Does the 138 Hz overclock require color decimation like it does on many monitors? What is the minimum frame rate for VESA Adaptive Sync - 40 or 48 Hz? You should note that to maintain that minimum frame rate at 4K on modern AAA games for 1% lows requires a powerful GPU, and for games like Control and Cyberpunk with RTX enabled basically requires a 4090. Do the USB ports include KVM functionality? The PG42UQ stand appears to be significantly higher than the C2 which may place the monitor too high for a proper eye line, and putting a monitor this size/weight on an arm would be problematic.
Been using the LG CX 48" for a few years now and while I love most of it, I desperately miss having an actual monitor. I also really want something with a higher refresh than just 120. Hoping 2023 has many OLED monitors for me to choose from. I don't think this one is for me.
17:54 Given Microsoft's widespread HDR issue that prevents display-side post processing under 95% of conditions, this is the only chart I care about anymore... A Windows 10/11 max HDR brightness of 121 nits, sick. Even the Neo G7 can't manage to deliver an accurate 400 nit experience. I know I'm being a bit ridiculous, but currently our choices are: 1. Play our games at the minmax brightness of our displays to retain 100% of bright detail 100% of the time. (I'm calling it "minmax" because it is the minimum value a display can achieve while pushing max brightness [Neo G7 has a minmax of 345 nits and a maxmax of 1278]) 2. Play our games at the "maxmax" (I'm rolling with it now) and deal with blown out highlights any time effective window size reaches ~30%, while retaining a punchy image. 3. Compromise on both ends to decrease the frequency of clipping at the cost of some, but not all, punchiness/color/contrast. Most games could probably handle a brightness value equal to your display's 70%-80% window sustained results but none of us know our exact numbers for that. Other games may require as low as 50%, like Destiny... Or you know... Microsoft could just fix whatever it is they broke, and allow display manufacturers' tonemapping to just make everyone's lives easier.
They really messed up with the only having the anti glare. I only buy glossy panels. At least the choice would have been better. They should have defaulted to glossy and if they wanted matte; make it an option.
You really need to revise the power consumption testing, if you can add another power consumption test on top of the current one or just straight ul replace it that would be great.
I want an OLED released, that is a monitor and a TV in one. I also like the idea of a QLED, that again, is a monitor and TV in one. I want to be able to have the choice of weather I turn on the TV or OLED, with out requiring me to turn on the pc automatically.
Great video! I couldn’t find one in stock so ended up with a c2 and absolutely love it. Got it for 999 on sale so it was a good bit cheaper. Like having 4 2.1 hdmi even tho I probably won’t ever use them all, sux no dp but all modern gpu seem to have hdmi 2.1 on them. Came from ASUS first 34” ultra wide with horrible light bleed and no hdr so it was a huge upgrade. I don’t miss ultra wide at all, lotta older games and some competitive don’t support it properly anyways. Love the glossy over the matte but I game in a basement with lights off usually. I do notice some of my razer chroma crap reflecting off it a bit in really black scenes. I have a really deep corner desk and this size is huge, I can’t believe I was considering the Aorus 48” oled when it was on sale for 600-700 a few weeks ago. I agree I wouldn’t go above 42”.
I would really like to see a review of best large monitors for high quality DPI/Text use, productivity. Both if you are a gamer and want a best of both worlds, and productivity alone.
2.5 years later and still no burn in on my CX with ~8h of daily normal desktop use (browsing, gaming and light office use, no work). I can highly recommend it. I would even buy one if burn in was guaranteed after 2 years and I had to get a new one because it's just that good and worth every penny.
Asus has updated the warranty for their OLED gaming monitors to now include 2 years of panel burn-in coverage. This applies to the PG34WCDM, PG49WCD, PG27AQDM, PG48UQ, PG42UQ and upcoming models like the PG32UCDM.
You'll see the change in the specification tab on Asus product page, so you can refer to that for warranty claims in the future
I'd like to see a review of ASUS ROG Swift PG38UQ. There is little information about it in the tests, thanks
Does anyone know how to get the audio through from the OLED panel and the audio channel output from my computer? I never had an issue outputting from an old 4k tv and getting the built in speakers too, but if I try on this panel it's just a pass through and does not give me both outputs, which is a shame, cause the built in speakers are pretty good.
@monitorsunboxed How shaky is the monitor when you touch it or type on the keyboard or move the mouse. I just got the DELL UltraSharp 43" - U4323QE and I love the monitor, using it for mostly productivity apps. The panel looks perfect and has a matte screen which I like, but the monitor stand is really shaky and if I move the mouse fast or type too hard the monitor wobbles and it really bothers me. Just wonder if the PG42UQ has similar issues or if the stability of the monitor stand is better than the DELL 43". Thanks.
Tim, your monitor reviews are quickly becoming the English-speaking world's go-to for reliable information. That is no small feat. You should be proud of the immense respect you're cultivating in this space. I will not purchase a monitor without checking here first and that is a 100% guarantee. Well done! Bravo sir, bravo.
Actually this review was completely worthless because it tells you NOTHING about the actual problems with this display. It's just another advertisement.
He doesn't mention the random black frames/flickering this monitor does FOR EVERYONE with two eyebrows who can actually SEE PHOTONS in reality.
WORTHLESS. Imagine praising a junk review of a monitor that doesn't even mention that it RANDOMLY DISPLAYS BLACK FRAMES.
geezus
@@youtubesuresuckscock My dude, you're one angry fellow. Tim & Steve's integrity aren't in question. They come to defence of consumers time and time again. I'm sure that if Tim was made aware of this issue, it would have surfaced. Hell, it could still surface. I seriously doubt he's a shill.
His video is very good I admit that but he is not a world's go-to for reliable information. That would be Linus Tech Tips or JayzTwoCents. His Views or subscribers are basicly not big enough to call him a information source for the whole world.
HUB and rtings are what I usually go to for monitors
Pull back the praise by about half and, realistically, yes, HU does a great job. Did he mention the heat sink in this monitor that aims to reduce burn-in risk? Did he address RTINGS report of unacceptable input lag at 60fps? These monitor reviews sometimes run on an auto pilot of charts, graphs, and tech speak that we hear in every HU review. I’ve watched nearly every one and feel they could improve the context at times, especially if their review isn’t first to market. The RTINGS finding about input lag would be a deal breaker for many, especially as OLED doesn’t inherently have this issue. RTINGS believes it’s a processing issue it’s this monitor. Getting HU’s take on this claim is why I watched this video.
I never have enough of these videos, because let's face it, primary interface is the monitor. It's the one most important piece of the whole setup. Pick whatever GPU you want, if screen is bad it's wasted money. Pick a great screen, and on your next update you'll benefit more from it.
Facts, the monitor is the most important part of the build
@@xph1lthyx698 Yep people just think about PC specs and forget that the monitor is literally the thing you look at.
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Couldn't agree more. Went from a Hanns-G 1440x900 office monitor to an Asus VG248H 1080p75Hz monitor to a TUF Gaming VQ27AQ 1440p144Hz monitor and the improvement each time was truly massive. A good monitor is essential. Hell, often a cheap TV can be better than some of the terrible budget monitors out there.
Same thoughts here
Had this bad boy since mid-September. It's great! Went from a 1440p IPS panel and the upgrade is amazing. I'm still in awe of all the lovely, rich details of games and movies. Deep blacks still surprise me. Definitely a worthy purchase for a first time 4K/OLED PC gamer. :)
Same! But I upgraded / maybe not an upgrade from the PG35VQ. 200 HZ, HDR10, GSYNC ULTIMATE, 3440X1440 ULTRA WIDE, but I am still loving this monitor! Higher resolution, but less HZ, but an OLED. I honestly can say the OLED has better brightness and blacks but NOT by much! This monitor is great with my RTX4090! I don't plan on getting rid of the PG35VQ though as both have a time and place! Both amazing monitors
12 months in and I love my PG42UQ. Firmware issues are sorted and I replaced my HDMI 2.1 cable that was making it flicker during hard gaming.
Since this comment is a year old, I'm curious. Have you used this as a desktop monitor as well as gaming and have you had any issues with burn in at all?
How do you like it for work?
how adjustable is the screen for angles , tilting, raising?
I bought one of these day one. It is a beautiful monitor. I use it in my office. I also have a living room gaming PC that is hooked to my 65" LG C1 panel. Both are stunning. I really love the PG42UQ's array of inputs and also the heatsink on the back. I waited very impatiently for this monitor hoping it would live up to the hype. It delivers in spades. The only thing I don't like is the pixel-cleaning pop-up you get after 8 hours of use. I'm hoping someone figures out a way to disable that. Otherwise, this is easily the best monitor I've ever owned.
I've been waiting months for this screen, finally got one.
I've been using a 40" Samsung 4K TV for years, I like the form factor. TV was only 60hz, so having 120hz now is great.
For me, when I turned down brightness the text got significantly better for regular PC use. Basically anywhere over 60 in the brightness setting is very usable for me, over 90 is too bright.
For working at home, I can fit everything I want on the screen at once, and for gaming it's excellent for strategy/4X games that I play. Shooters are good, buy I know some people like smaller screens. RPGs and MMOs are immersive at this size.
And it you want widescreen this panel can force it, with unlit black bars since it's OLED.
The most impressive thing on display here is Tim's ability to say monitor names in quick succession or at all... I'm pretty sure barcode scanners would be envious :-)
Having owned this monitor for about a month now and using it 8 hours a day for my day job (software dev), I have to say it's been amazing, but Tim is right in that this is going to be very dependant on your preferences and what you value.
Personally, the built in 4 port USB3 hub, uniform brightness mode, proper monitor sleep support, threaded camera mount and other features are things I value quite highly.
However, again, Tim is spot on in that in many ways, this doesn't really fundamentally offer a vastly different experience to a C2, which can be had for a lot less money and is much easier to find.
The firmware for this screen have also been pretty ropey so far, no single version has yet to nail everything at the same time but hopefully this will get ironed out pretty soon.
I'm only using it at 60hz at the moment - waiting to upgrade my old 1080Ti, so I've only briefly tried HDR and 138hz, but I'm really looking forward to giving them a proper go...
Same I have had mine for 3/4 weeks and use it 8 hours a day doing Sysadm then gaming afterward. It's incredible and all the people that think the C2 is close don't use their C2 as a monitor.
It's £1400 but I spend 5000 hours a year in front of it so its nothing in the long term
Edit: I pay £53 a month for this monitor 0% interest free. It costs less than my Pixel 6 (Overclockers UK)
Is the text clarity an issue compared to IPS monitors? I'm thinking of getting an oled panel for media/games but would probably spend the majority of time on work(coding).
Is it only released in The US? Can’t find this monitor anywhere else
@@gelul12 Im from the UK and bought mine from overclockers uk
I couldn’t find it in stock, picked up c2 for 999 from Best Buy on sale. Absolutely love it, using the smart tv apps more than I thought I would.
I'm glad you're going to be using this channel again, I love your reviews and content on this channel and was getting worried that it was being forgotten!
An excellent review as always, Tim! ... I do plan on upgrading to a 4K OLED, but no monitor yet has the specifications I'm looking for. Hopefully there will be a no-compromises model by the time the next generation of graphics cards comes out in a couple years, to drive games at high fps on it.
Just a few days ago I've stumbled upon this monitor and was surprised to see that you guys didn't have a review done for it yet. Very cool to see that one is up now!
Something I haven't noticed in the comments section normally - thank you so much for highlighting the panel finish - whether it's glossy or matte! As someone who likes glossy finish a lot it's a shame to see that not being adopted by many monitor manufacturers, it's always good to know what our options are.
I remember many years ago i thought "it MUST have a matte finish, how will i even live with an gloss oled TV ?!?!?!?"
And now i can say for sure the glossy screen is better.
It reflects a flashlight about 3 Times weaker than an anti glare panel.
Just tested it this morning 😓 and thats just one aspect.
matte finish is an instant dealbreaker for me, watch this comparison video with over a million views and you'll see why: th-cam.com/video/3mTV1TOblbA/w-d-xo.html
ho wow I hate glossy finish with a passion
nothing worse than having to be in a pitch black room to not be able to shave myself in my monitor ugh ....
e.g. the secondary image of me in my monitor moving around is annoying
@@whismerhillgaming true, i took my light controlled rooms for granted.
You mentioned your reflection and Its also true! But i got used to the faint dark mirror image because it fades away whenever the screen is in use. 👍
have the 48" model, contemplating returning it. the sleep wake up bug is just too hard to ignore. It takes from 3 to 5 min to wake up from sleep.
And the firmware is 1 version behind the 42" which also suffer the same problem.
I’m using LG C2 42” for two months as my monitor. I just love it. It’s perfect.
I'm grateful to LG with the C2. for the price quality ratio this TV is simply fabulous for any use even gaming on PC. Bravo LG
I returned the c2 for this Asus Rog blew it out the water
Here in Denmark the C2 is ~910 Euros and the PG42UQ is almost twice as expensive at ~1680 Euro (both with VAT). There really is no choice at that point. C2 is just much better value. Thanks for the great review!
People underestimate how reflective the C2 is. If you have any kind of light in front of the tv, you will see reflections, almost like a mirror. Even an RGB keyboard placed in front of the screen will cause reflections.
Also the TV will shine light onto the top of the desk which will reflect back into the screen (depending on the color of your desk), so no matter what you will still get distracting reflections on the C2..
The C2 is really not good as a monitor because of that.
The HUB Essentials Checklist is incredible! It shows exactly how you can't trust marketing numbers. Wow... I had no clue they were _that_ wrong.
This monitor is £1400 in the UK (if you can find one). I got the C2 for £945 and much prefer the glossy screen. The Asus matte screen makes the blacks look grey and grainy when there's light present. I just got some blackout curtains for my gaming room and the C2 looks awesome.
Fortunately the position of my room barely gets direct sun-light (maybe 1 hour a day), so the C2 was an easy win for me.
I also hate matte filters, they make every monocolor region look grainy. They should provide the matte filter seperately as an optional snap on
@@organicmechanic2477 I also have little sunlight in my room and at night with all the lights turned off the C2 looks gorgeous
If you really think that you haven't seen the matte finish on the Asus
@@imadecoy. I have seen the matte finish on both the Asus and the Alienware AW 3423DW which is a little less extreme. I didn't like it on either...and saved £450 by opting for the LG C2!
Make it 32" and I'm in.
Great review, Tim, as always.
I definitely prefer the glossy screen. I can work with controlling light sources for a noticeably better picture.
First of all, massive props to Tim for pouring so much time in scripting these videos. Best monitor reviews on TH-cam!
The PG42UQ is €1750 in my country (The Netherlands), while the 42" C2 is €899, literally almost half the price.
That's a 120Hz instead of 138, but indeed not worth it volgens mij ;)
240Hz all the way!
Even when ASUS products are good, they consistently represent poor value.
@@Garrett1974 120hz is better than 138hz gimmick as 120 can be divided by 30/60 and 24 thus you don't have frame pacing problems when viewing videos.
@@alexusman it doesn't matter if display supports variable refresh rate. Some monitors can go below as 24 Hz but almost all of VRR supporting monitors supports at least 48 Hz. If video is 24 FPS it would set itself to 48 Hz, if it's 30 FPS then sets itself to 60 Hz.
@@iseeyou1312 Yes
Good review, I've had my eye on this monitor for a while.
I'm used to using 3 monitors, so switching to one big monitor makes me hesitate to buy it. I wish there was a 32" version so I could replace my main monitor and still have some place for my two other monitors.
As I look at the comments, there are many who desire a 32" OLED 4K 120hz+ gaming monitor as well, but there are none.
Update:
I'll be going with the LG Ultragear 48GQ900.
However, for those interested since CES 2023 and Computex many companies have announced new OLED monitors in 27", 32" and 34" formats which is good for gaming, all very pricey though
i have xg32uq, 4K 32" fast IPS 160hz, I won't change soon, and it won't burn
I was one of the first to get one of the PG42UQ monitors, but the speakers just exploded the first time I tried to test them and had to return it. I'm now trying to decide to keep the C2 42" or the QN90B to avoid the burn-in. I wish you had put this out before I jumped on the ~$1500 (after taxes) price. Luckily, the Samsung and LG were both $1080 (after tax) and are both fantastic, just gotta pick which one I'm keeping.
With these pixel responses you'd think they could make a 240hz one. I have to say, I'm still waiting for 32" 4k 240hz oled monitor, preferably with quantum dot conversion layer.
it's a connection bandwidth issue ; not many physical cables and electronics can process pixels at that rate.
Great review. I do although wish that there was a separate video talking about using the PG42 and C2 as desktop monitor, some of the practical issues. I.e., when PC go to sleep the TV won't turn off right away and other things similar that could potentially be frustrating or things to think about.
Wish there were more choices in the 30" monitor range. Either 27" or 42" and above. Such as a small choice at the 32" range.
There are always these 40+ inch behemots and curved 32" OLEDs or wharever that Samsung uses, but why isn't there what people really want: 30-32" 4K gaming monitor with straight panel, deep blacks and 144Hz or more. Why make everything else than what market wants?
Yup I don’t want anything over 32” on my desk and i don’t want curves…not much out there for us
Cutting motherglass into larger panels likely has better yields right now.
@@MauroTamm Yes, but considering the terrible pricing of monitors compared to televisions, it really doesn't have to be extremely cost effective to be highly profitable.
Samsung uses VA panels with really bad viewing angles. The curve is absolutely necessary with those panels to preserve image quality on the edges of the screen. There are no 32" 4K OLED panels from LG because the W-OLED tech they use doesn't scale well to such a high DPI.
Manufacturers know very well what the most popular monitor sizes are, and they would absolutely produce OLED panels at those sizes and resolutions if it was feasible and made financial sense to do so.
@@konga382 This. Curve is actually boon with VA panels as it almost eliminates the horizontal gamma shift. That and as you usually use monitors up close so the curve does not really cause picture geometry issues. Hell it may even reduce them in bigger screens when viewed up close.
And we will get smaller OLEDs when LG manages to make them cost effective to produce. LG's WRGB OLED panel is the only sensible option to use as a monitor as it is more resistant to burn in compared to the normal pentile or RGB oleds which you see in smaller screens and phones.
I'm using a 55 inch lg tv as a second monitor, and would love if it had matte finish instead of glossy. I prefer the softer image matte gives
I love the fact that the Asus has a matte screen coating. I don't care if it makes it look slightly better, the reflections from a glossy screen drive me crazy and it's not worth it to fight with light sources or only watch at certain times of day just for a slightly improved picture. Shame it costs so much more than what is practically an identical screen, though.
Thanks for the comparison,I am considering LG C3 and Asus PG42UQ as soon as I realised Asus has matt coating I wrote it off.I absolutely hate the washed out dull look of displays with matte coating.
The reflection issue of glossy screens can easily be mitigated,but you can’t do anything about the inferior colours and contrast of matte displays.
Now it’s time to sell my Alienware AW3423DWF! (I never liked ultrawide and it’s low resolution!)
Thanks I've been waiting for a while for your review of this!
Just took delivery of mine and the screen was smashed 😢 gutted, new PC I've just built will now have to wait longer
I've been waiting for reviews of this monitor thank you!
For me PG42UQ is 1800 Euro, while C2 OLED is 900 Euro, my choice was a nobrainer LG C2 wich im uber satisfied! Also semi glossy finish on C2 is amazing!
"Semi gloss"? Isn't C2 regular gloss? I know the Alienware QD-OLED monitor is semi gloss though.
@@Shadowsmoke11 Maybe I'm wrong but previous C2 I had a QN90B from Samsung and i could not stand the reflection i got from it! My room is semi lit so i have no issues with C2
Would we be able to get a comparison of the currently available 32" 4k 120-165Hz monitors floating around the market?
Love your work.
LG is reportedly releasing 27" and 32" Gaming OLEDs next year :)
Looking towards upgrading my current main monitor and this video has motivated me to purchase. Thank you!
Ive had my LG C2 for a year and have a weird type of burn in. If I pull up paint and fill the whole screen with certain colors, I definitely see shapes of different brightness.
The OLED panel care where it shuts off for 10 minutes does not fix it, nor does leaving it off overnight.
I have had it on 24/7 for the past year though, and have the OLED picture movement option turned on.
i Have since 2 days Lg OLED C2 and RTX 3090 TI MSI ... Its insane and Best for Desktop and Gaming its just insane ... LG C2 Rules.. No need Monitor anymore.. the Quality is insane... on OLED Gaming and Desktop use. And no worries its very bright... 10 / 10
I have had one since there were released. I really enjoy this monitor. I am looking forward to the next firmware update though to solve some issues. I chose this over the C2 for the matte finish - I use it as my daily driver/work monitor and I am in a well lit room so the shinier screen of the C2 would not be great for me personally. It still look fabulous. I also chose this for the Display Port input and the increased refresh rate. But Tim nails the differences pretty clearly here - and choose what fits you the best! Thanks Tim.
How many months have you had it and how are the pixels going? I also still want to do productivity on it but will need to implement the anti-burn in features. I agree, I love the matte finish because I don't want to look at myself all day in the reflection in any area that has light lol. As Tim said the matte finish doesn't affect the black levels at all.
@@damienmason3807 Had it since Sept. I daily drive it. I mitigate burn in as much as possible - I use the built in features plus transparent task bar that hides, etc. Fine so far. It will pop the pixel refresh reminder if I have played for an extended time. All good so far.
@@gregchapman5435 Cool thanks good to know. I've been looking for a new PC (4090 with 13th generation) and monitor for two months trying to get the right combo. The 138hz maximum is a bit low just don't want the 4090 to be wasted on that lower refresh rate. I looked at the new LG 45" curved 240Hz monitor but with a pixel density of only 83, it would be tragically sh#t for text clarity.
I don't find the matte diffused glow any less distracting than glossy sharp reflections.
Great review Tim! In my country it costs €1900 (the price of the 65" G2, whereas the 42" C2 costs €800) though, so not an option for me.
Tim is the gold standard for monitor reviews. Simply awesome stuff.
Why people continue to praise the LG C2 as a PC monitor is beyond me. I returned the LG C2 a week later, it is the WORST possible choice to use as a PC monitor. You got it totally backwards. The PC can't power manage the TV like it can a monitor, you have to manually turn it on off which alone is a deal breaker. You have to change all your settings, no fast boot, auto dimming is annoying as F and not seamless at all. Post processing due to it's TV features is not welcome in a monitor. Wonky ass menu is so daam cluttered and slow as F.
The Asus also has a heatsink on the back of the panel which is supposed to act as additional burn-in mitigation. It's also $2299 AUD, which is $500 more than the C2 here in Australia. :P
The heat sink needed more coverage in this review, I think. Another reviewer showed that it reduces temperatures of the screen significantly, so should be a good burn in prevention measure.
Even in Australia, the price of the C2 easily falls to 1700+AUD often, while the pg42uq is set solid at 2299 and always out of stock.
I wish he would've at least mentioned the big heatsink Asus has added for the OLED panel, because it may truly help reducing risk of burn-in
Other than that, great video!
X for doubt
@@DrakonR heat ages things quickly so the science is sound but it has been proven that oled ages better with good cooling -edit autocorrect
@@dominicbeltz9057 give it a shot and see. The temperature difference between this and the C2 is negligible.
Not only that but asus offers 2 year warranty where as lg is 1.
@@sspringss2727 doesn't mean anything when extended warranties exist.
i was really missing the content on here nice one
please review the Sony 42 inch OLED 🙏
nice review as always
Thanks Tim 👍
Now, when will someone release the 32" 4k 120hz+ OLED technology panel I'm waiting for? 😬
The Samsung neo g8 is as close your gonna get, but it’s rumor their making a OLED probably next year seems duable
LG said they are starting to make one soon. So maybe in 6-12months? I recommend everyone wait, instead of buying these shitty tv's
Yes 32 inch would be the perfect size for 4k
The VESA mount would definitely see some use on this for me instead of the foot. And the matte surface of the screen would be a given for me, I hate reflections of any kind.
Have the Alienware AW3423DW and absolutely love it. The best gaming PC monitor I've ever seen or used
Thank you. I've been waiting for this review.
What's going on at 12:40? I can literally see the pixels
Having switched from an IPS to the C2, I have to say that text clarity definitely is an issue especially early on. You absolutely need to find the right scaling setting, as 100% @ 4K is also usually much to small. That being said, once you iron out the worst kinks, discord is a big offender here, you get used to it pretty quickly. Some scaling issues remain, especially in older windows applications like installers, but that seems to be a big problem with 4K in general. ABL on bright websites is very noticeable still, but you can either disable HDR for normal windows use, or use dark mode (dark reader addon for browsers
I kinda disagree. I have the C2 and the dimming is so fucking annoying. Also it is uselessly tall. I'm going back to a 38" ultrawide.
@@sampsalol turn it off in the service menu, works fine on mine and doesn't dim
@@b1gd312 enjoy burn in
@@sampsalol if you had the C2 you'd know about the OLED care and pixel refresh baked in to prevent it.
Can't wait for the Mini LED display review
Thank you Tim for the outstanding display reviews !
I’d note that those who’ve owned both this and the C2 have opted to stick with the C2 and save a chunk of change (see Reddit). The value proposition just isn’t here at all on this display.
Great review. To me, the point of contention here is price. In most European countries, this monitor is around or above 1500€, while finind the LG C2 around 1000€ is not impossible. So, the price difference is so high, that you can basically buy a new GPU to get hdmi 2.1 with the price difference, and you should have a pretty modern gpu anyway to drive a 4k 120(+) hz display. If the price was closer, like 100€ of difference, it would be pretty compelling, especially if you have annoying reflections to deal with: angle adjustment stand and matte finish will make wonders in that case. But with such a big difference, it's a no go for me.
What I've been waiting for has finally arrived with great power
Love seeing Virtual Japan in your video. That channel has the best HDR content on TH-cam in my opinion. Truly immersive videos.
It seems that blue phosphorescent OLEDs are the key to increasing brightness and stability to negate the one primary disadvantage of current OLED technology. Also, if RGB OLEDs can eventually be scaled to larger sizes, then that subpixel layout structure would be ideal for maintaining text clarity.
ASUS has the ASUS ProArt PA32DC which has an RGB subpixel layout, however it costs $3500 and only does 60hz, but it is a great monitor for art based creators as it's 32'' size gives it a very good pixel density and being RGB, has the best color accuracy of any OLED on the market.
What were your thoughts on HDR performance with the PG42UQ compared to the C2.
While the PG42UQ seems to be using the newer WBE panel with greater brightness and color volume it also lacks in HDR accuracy compared to the C2, while also not having the same set of TV features.
I feel like the opinion from someone who's had first hand experience with both displays would be much appreciated here.
If you use it for gaming and a PC display - not a TV, you probably not going to care too much about HDR accuracy. Most streaming service don't even offer HDR in Windows 10 (or offer some but very hard to get them to work imo)
@@e21big but still this asus simply overpriced too much, in my country week ago is LG42C2 for 770e with taxes, twice ...
Newer C2s also have WBE panels
@@dexterav Yeah but the C2 lacks many features to be a monitor. Its an awesome TV though
@@tbrowniscool yes bur not worthy almost 1k euros, or say what is worthy in asus 1000e against 42c2
I've been looking forward to this video, thank you! Great video as always. In Germany the price difference is even higher. 1.7k€ for Asus against 1k€ for the C2...
Had the monitor for a month, only complaint is waking up from sleep doesnt work on my 3090 if i have 138Hz OC enabled. Asus says theres a FW fix coming ~2 weeks. Using it as a 2nd monitor with a black background, gaming and watching vids on it with a "desktop" and "gaming" presets with different brightnesses and protection settings. All static stuff like taskbar+icons are usually on my 35" 21:9 wide monitor.
for ABL on LG C2, I found quite a nifty way to deal with it, without disabling anything on the service menu. So, first up, just crank the pixel brightness to 100, then go to windows HD color setting, enable HDR. After that, scroll down on that HD color setting, and you'll see HDR/SDR brightness balance. I just turn it down to 0.
This way, ABL don't really kick in when watching youtube or something because the TV thinks that you're displaying dim content while in reality you're limiting brightness through windows. You'll get much dimmer picture in SDR though, but things will kick in again once you display HDR content.
Thanks for the advice.
I can only agree with the other comments, your monitor tests are really great. I was about to buy the Asus PG42UQ after your review. Then the new Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 came on the market. Now I'm really curious if the Philips might be a little better. Hence my question, is a test of the Philips Evnia 42M2N8900 already planned? I would be very happy about that. Thank you and keep it up.
I thought I was going to hate the glossy of the 42" C2, never used glossy monitor before. Turns out this is the most refreshed/good feeling my eyes have been in a while. Guess matte was always giving me a bit of strain.
How’s the auto dimming feature?
@@DRC92 I turned the problematic one off through service menu. But there is still a little bit ABL if your whole screen is white (very rare), but barely notice it. It's not that big of a deal for me.
The alternative was spending $500 more for the Asus and the trade offs being not getting an easy/cheap store burn in warranty, tv features, or glossy coating.
Any issues in terms of productivity use? Mainly text clarity compared to IPS panels. I'm looking to get an oled as my next monitor but hear mixed opinions for work use. Is it something you can get used?
@@sm7085 The text clarity issue is completely deleted/removed if you use this at the proper viewing distance (36-41").
I bought a C2 when it was discounted.. I am never going back to plain monitors again.. Wow, the responsiveness, the colours. The experience... Once you go perfect black, you never get to go back.
@Doomguy lol miserable aren’t you!
@Doomguy 6k hours on my c1 and no burn in. Cope and seethe with your bottom of the barrel monitor.
@Doomguy Imagine being so broke that you keep the same monitor so long that you get burn ins.
#1 channel to check when it is time buy new monitor. Cheers!
I wonder what will LG displays do after they'll stop using BFI in their motherglass for future displays. How will they fix sample and hold's motion blur? How long till we reach CRT level of motion clarity.
13:54 Basically you are saying this is not a computer monitor, it's a TV. I could understand that statement when reviewing the LG TV's, they are not monitors and using them for other purposes could damage the screen, but this is a computer monitor, marketed as one, it should be able to display a spreadsheet or document. What is the reasoning in that disclaimer? ASUS measures with the heatsink and software tricks are not enough?.
Question in relation to burn in - We know the risks related to desktop use and burn in with these OLED panels, but I assume these risks carry over into games with static assets (World of Warcraft for example, cast maps, mini map and the like). As someone that spends a majority of my gaming time in WoW, should I just avoid OLED?
Yes. It's a junk technology. The best meat and potatoes displays for actual humans that use computers for what they were meant to be used for are the LG 32GQ950-B and the LG 38GL950G-B if you want an ultrawide. They're good sizes, they actually have SOME vertical real estate, and they just WORK. Screw HDR too. It's useless on the PC. It never works.
I'm also on the exact same boat as you. Primarily playing WoW and destiny 2, and then diablo 4 when it comes out. All of those games have static screen elements like maps, action bars, etc. I don't know what to do!
I've been rocking a Philips BDM4037UW since 2017, not sure I can deal with a ultrawide.. Was really hoping for something special this these LG panel OLEDs
This is the go to channel for monitor reviews
Great review, and if it weren't for the fact that I spend a lot of time with static elements on my screen, thus making the risk of burn-in feel too great, I'd grab one in a heartbeat.
Thanks Tim for the hard work. It is appreciated. Glad to hear this channel is being resurrected. I'm currently in the market for a large Oled for PC gaming.
I don't understand why tv companies don't ship with correct color calibration already.
It would be really cool if you cold test OLED displays for VRR flicker.
Do you think the heat sync on this can actually reduce burn in risk? Thats the thing that scares me the most about this monitor.
I'm in the market for an oled 4K gaming display,everyday I check reviews for different models & I always look for your review of that particular model. You're doing gods work lol. Hopefully you do the review for LG Ultra Gear 48gq900-B next. Cheers!
i bought the 48 inch lg oled for 1000 at best buy best purchase ever made!
@@h_3_x_Way too big
So ya. The Lg c2 42 is discounted and I got it for $999 at best buy on sale. Better picture in games, no matte screen.
I would be happy with Asus, but it is not worth $400 more than Lg oled tv. I play games on this thing, not word process on white backgrounds.
A lack of so-called smart TV features is always a plus in my book.
Good review! But there are some things you failed to mention/investigate.
A significant advantage of the PG42UQ vs. the C2 is the inclusion of PC power management. On the C2 you have to turn it on with the remote, and either turn it off manually or let it idle to sleep. Presumably the PG42UQ supports PC monitor standby. But does it support this on both the DisplayPort and the HDMI connections, or just the DisplayPort? Did you test that this is working? Because it's a major reason to get the Asus over the LG. Someone has written an app to control the LG power over the network (LGTVCompanion) but it's a hack (no shade meant to the author).
Does the 138 Hz overclock require color decimation like it does on many monitors?
What is the minimum frame rate for VESA Adaptive Sync - 40 or 48 Hz? You should note that to maintain that minimum frame rate at 4K on modern AAA games for 1% lows requires a powerful GPU, and for games like Control and Cyberpunk with RTX enabled basically requires a 4090.
Do the USB ports include KVM functionality?
The PG42UQ stand appears to be significantly higher than the C2 which may place the monitor too high for a proper eye line, and putting a monitor this size/weight on an arm would be problematic.
NOt any longer there's a app for that out that resolves that issue.
@@ErrorInvalidName Those apps are unreliable.
Been using the LG CX 48" for a few years now and while I love most of it, I desperately miss having an actual monitor. I also really want something with a higher refresh than just 120. Hoping 2023 has many OLED monitors for me to choose from. I don't think this one is for me.
At least you didn’t test with V032 firmware, it was bricking some monitors before Asus pulled it.
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Given Microsoft's widespread HDR issue that prevents display-side post processing under 95% of conditions, this is the only chart I care about anymore... A Windows 10/11 max HDR brightness of 121 nits, sick. Even the Neo G7 can't manage to deliver an accurate 400 nit experience.
I know I'm being a bit ridiculous, but currently our choices are:
1. Play our games at the minmax brightness of our displays to retain 100% of bright detail 100% of the time. (I'm calling it "minmax" because it is the minimum value a display can achieve while pushing max brightness [Neo G7 has a minmax of 345 nits and a maxmax of 1278])
2. Play our games at the "maxmax" (I'm rolling with it now) and deal with blown out highlights any time effective window size reaches ~30%, while retaining a punchy image.
3. Compromise on both ends to decrease the frequency of clipping at the cost of some, but not all, punchiness/color/contrast. Most games could probably handle a brightness value equal to your display's 70%-80% window sustained results but none of us know our exact numbers for that. Other games may require as low as 50%, like Destiny...
Or you know... Microsoft could just fix whatever it is they broke, and allow display manufacturers' tonemapping to just make everyone's lives easier.
Still waiting for a 1440p 240hz QD OLED 27 inch flat panel at a reasonable price, that's the dream.
They really messed up with the only having the anti glare. I only buy glossy panels. At least the choice would have been better. They should have defaulted to glossy and if they wanted matte; make it an option.
You really need to revise the power consumption testing, if you can add another power consumption test on top of the current one or just straight ul replace it that would be great.
Thank you for the review. Would you recommend overclocking to 138hz? Are there any downsides/risks to doing this?
42” is too big for my desk. Can we have some 27” or 32” OLEDs that are not 3000$?
Really torn between getting this or the 48" version, since the price is almost the same and this doesn't look too big in many of the preview shots.
3:16 isn’t the glossy coating shining undesirable?
Yeah, I know that was a bad pun.
Can you review the 43" Samsung QN90B Neo Qled as a monitor? It's one of the best lcd tvs and the 43" is 4k 144hz.
Finally xD, was really hoping for you to give this Screen a try xD
I want an OLED released, that is a monitor and a TV in one.
I also like the idea of a QLED, that again, is a monitor and TV in one. I want to be able to have the choice of weather I turn on the TV or OLED, with out requiring me to turn on the pc automatically.
LG is reportedly releasing 27" and 32" Gaming OLEDs next year btw
That's good
Such fantastic, informative videos. Bravo!
Great video! I couldn’t find one in stock so ended up with a c2 and absolutely love it. Got it for 999 on sale so it was a good bit cheaper. Like having 4 2.1 hdmi even tho I probably won’t ever use them all, sux no dp but all modern gpu seem to have hdmi 2.1 on them. Came from ASUS first 34” ultra wide with horrible light bleed and no hdr so it was a huge upgrade. I don’t miss ultra wide at all, lotta older games and some competitive don’t support it properly anyways. Love the glossy over the matte but I game in a basement with lights off usually. I do notice some of my razer chroma crap reflecting off it a bit in really black scenes. I have a really deep corner desk and this size is huge, I can’t believe I was considering the Aorus 48” oled when it was on sale for 600-700 a few weeks ago. I agree I wouldn’t go above 42”.
HDMI 2.1 has 50% more bandwidth than DP 1.4 so it's going to be a better option for any GPU made over 2 years anyway.
I would really like to see a review of best large monitors for high quality DPI/Text use, productivity. Both if you are a gamer and want a best of both worlds, and productivity alone.
2.5 years later and still no burn in on my CX with ~8h of daily normal desktop use (browsing, gaming and light office use, no work). I can highly recommend it. I would even buy one if burn in was guaranteed after 2 years and I had to get a new one because it's just that good and worth every penny.
Any burn in yet?