i lost 7 games as vegeta n broly cuz they hide n come out with 3 everything plus super transpire and dragon ball wish every raider game is losing patience
Not completely in season 1 you had an animation after you destroyed it he would have died. He can just move away then stall for as long as he can then use Area destruction to stall even more. No matter what it was down to the wire.
Honestly I thought the Recoome bug was intentional- I don't know if this nerfed Ginyu a ton but it did make keeping Recoome around slightly less worth it imo
Yeah I mean no dragonballs for a super TS is tough but he can still get beaten down pretty easy if he doesn't get any downs fast enough or if the cubes are blessing the survivors with lvl 3s
Man I felt that loss. Less than a second away from blowing up the STM. I feel like if you moved around a little more at the end you could've won that but ggs to the survivors.
This is literally me anytime I play Ginyu Force, except I get jumped every level. I’m always looking at videos where people are saying they are the best raider and I’m like, “How?!” 🤣
he has low HP its really bad against a good team. you have to make sure guldo is alive to keep some type of ground work and destroy areas so his flight path is easier and shorter. if Ginyu with all of his mates are alive he is really good but as the survivor meta shifts the more older raiders tend to fall off a bit
Exactly, the game would be waaaaay better and fun without key radars... But if the survs take to long to find them thats a problem, maybe if you didn't find them in less than 10 minutes the STM activates but only with the power of the keys that have been set by that moment.
The reality is that survs only have key rush and coordinated jumps to win... If the team don't do any of these they lose against high level and experimented raiders
....so playing the game optimally? The thing is that is their goal lol getting it done fast doesn't give Raiders the time to level up and gather resources. Even in the game rules that's what survivors are supposed to do. You can even argue Raiders have to camp to hold a position. Their goal is to win by any means. People Gave AK shit because he is a level 100 doing it while having a big advantage but he is doing what a Raider is supposed to be doing. Winning. Even if they don't camp people can also camp bodies to dwindle Survivor numbers at times so the End game phase is not as brutal. List goes on, on WHAT either side HAS TO DO to win.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 that's right, the problem of balance I find is that survs can make that optimization they have a lot of skills and they are getting updated each season meanwhile raiders depend almost completely in survs' mistakes and luck and older raiders are becoming obsolete btw
@@kessler766 oh yeah exactly what I've been saying. Buu is still good but Now will struggle and not feel as great because Survivor Meta is now surpassing weak raiders. No raider outside of the recent one can't really deal with Immortal champion. Barrier IT Barriers Ship or just ship alone. I can keep going.
"we are now buffing the ginyu force, he Will get another 2 lvl 3 forms, one as jeyce and another one as burter fighting by their own before reaching their original lvl 3 as a tag team"
Ginyu doesn't need to get buffed but he also doesn't need to get nerfed. Survivor's have been dealing with Ginyu and his bs for a while now so I don't think a nerf is necessary. He should remain as he is, a noob option that allows for many mistakes.
The only reason I hate Ginyu is because of the times I’ve seen level 4s rush him and immediately lose to “Your body is mine!” Might just mean people need to think before giving dragon balls.
If i were to actually Rank them again bases on Level 4's 1. Zamasu Fused 2. Ape Vegeta (tbh you can flip between either one or its super close imo) 3. Ginyu (with everyone alive he would be 4th if he is missing J&B) 4. Broly 5. Frieza 6. Kid Buu 7. Cell Even though the Raiders in this game are decent to ok to REALL GOOD. the only 2 Raiders who have a better shot in this Meta right now is just Broly, Zamasu they have the tools to counter them or at least play around them. While the other raiders don't. That still doesnt mean their power is super bad. They just tend to struggle a lot more because they lack the necessary tools now to go up against a good team or a group of competent survivors.
Ginyu under the right conditions is a top 3 raider. Ngl in hindsight that "Bug" is a nerf because at end game no joke more would be more in your favor because of that. If they lacked the barrier or could be knocked giving Ginyu or anyone after Recoome instant pressure The issues with Rankings these RIders is at their best and Goku Black based on what you can do with him he could be tied or better than Ginyu making Ginyu a Top 4 Raider. (If they lack J&B i mean)
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 it's a free level 4, sure, you don't really want to lose members but no other raider gives you a free level 4 or has some break strike at all levels (outside maybe broly but they start at level 2 also and need to fight a st at all levels). It just seems like training wheels.
@@proffesorspiderlastname5654 Just because you get a level for losing 4 doesn't mean anything especially with the Meta of the game and the drawbacks to losing the members. Plus they all naturally have low HP Broly doesn't have lower HP than Ginyu's team
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 a survivor team being good can be bad for any raider, yes, that's not always going to be the case that a survivor team is good (if as survivor you are playing solo it is difficult with an uncoordinated team of people who don't know what they're doing). Ginyu is really good in this case because if guldo isn't killed or jeice and burter get out before STM for survivors (which can happen with randoms) they are going to win, there isn't much of a strategy with Ginyu force outside of getting to your level 3/4 without losing guldo or jeice and burter and it's basically just a win if they don't have an ult change.
You know its over when goku starts hittin funny poses☠️
Nah but imagine if Goku Black start doing some poses💀💀
@@Real_Kunikuzushi your buns are toasted like 🍔,💀
That wasn't even the nerf lmao that was just a mega sweaty team tbh
The sweats have been out today.
They singlehandedly doubled my number of losses with Goku Black.
On the plus side, I got Raider on Zero Priority.
I don't mind games like that where I lose as raider if I had low priority. Helps get my raider game challenges done
i lost 7 games as vegeta n broly cuz they hide n come out with 3 everything plus super transpire and dragon ball wish every raider game is losing patience
Mans really ignored the fact he would of most likely died even if he did destroy the stm
Not completely in season 1 you had an animation after you destroyed it he would have died. He can just move away then stall for as long as he can then use Area destruction to stall even more.
No matter what it was down to the wire.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 this aint season 1
Honestly I thought the Recoome bug was intentional- I don't know if this nerfed Ginyu a ton but it did make keeping Recoome around slightly less worth it imo
Same
1:34 seems you agree with me thar GB is the best raider when you have more experience.
Yeah I mean no dragonballs for a super TS is tough but he can still get beaten down pretty easy if he doesn't get any downs fast enough or if the cubes are blessing the survivors with lvl 3s
Man I felt that loss. Less than a second away from blowing up the STM. I feel like if you moved around a little more at the end you could've won that but ggs to the survivors.
This is literally me anytime I play Ginyu Force, except I get jumped every level. I’m always looking at videos where people are saying they are the best raider and I’m like, “How?!” 🤣
he has low HP its really bad against a good team. you have to make sure guldo is alive to keep some type of ground work and destroy areas so his flight path is easier and shorter.
if Ginyu with all of his mates are alive he is really good but as the survivor meta shifts the more older raiders tend to fall off a bit
I still hate going against teams like this
Crazy cause I literally told myself earlier today that I had not seen a singular ginyu match in a while
I don’t think the nerf mattered. I think key radars are just too OP lmfao
Exactly, the game would be waaaaay better and fun without key radars... But if the survs take to long to find them thats a problem, maybe if you didn't find them in less than 10 minutes the STM activates but only with the power of the keys that have been set by that moment.
@@kessler766 I mean even without radars, the keys are not super hard to find. It just prevents key rushing
@@kessler766all you need to do is open different crates in a zone until you find the key
btw huge W for not only recording games you win.
Tbh it feels like they have personally to the point i started playing broly or other raiders more
I mean he was at a bar of health at the end. Even with AD stall he likely would have died after since level 4 is still healthy
The reality is that survs only have key rush and coordinated jumps to win... If the team don't do any of these they lose against high level and experimented raiders
....so playing the game optimally?
The thing is that is their goal lol getting it done fast doesn't give Raiders the time to level up and gather resources. Even in the game rules that's what survivors are supposed to do.
You can even argue Raiders have to camp to hold a position. Their goal is to win by any means. People Gave AK shit because he is a level 100 doing it while having a big advantage but he is doing what a Raider is supposed to be doing. Winning. Even if they don't camp people can also camp bodies to dwindle Survivor numbers at times so the End game phase is not as brutal.
List goes on, on WHAT either side HAS TO DO to win.
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 that's right, the problem of balance I find is that survs can make that optimization they have a lot of skills and they are getting updated each season meanwhile raiders depend almost completely in survs' mistakes and luck and older raiders are becoming obsolete btw
@@kessler766 oh yeah exactly what I've been saying. Buu is still good but Now will struggle and not feel as great because Survivor Meta is now surpassing weak raiders. No raider outside of the recent one can't really deal with Immortal champion.
Barrier IT Barriers Ship or just ship alone. I can keep going.
Ginyus only buff is having 4 lives
"we are now buffing the ginyu force, he Will get another 2 lvl 3 forms, one as jeyce and another one as burter fighting by their own before reaching their original lvl 3 as a tag team"
Ginyu doesn't need to get buffed but he also doesn't need to get nerfed. Survivor's have been dealing with Ginyu and his bs for a while now so I don't think a nerf is necessary.
He should remain as he is, a noob option that allows for many mistakes.
You know what’d be funny? Arale as a raider
Shoutout to 24Carrot Haven't seen that man since crossplay started
This is what almost always happens to me as raider
Breakers, we have the Power Creeps!
The only reason I hate Ginyu is because of the times I’ve seen level 4s rush him and immediately lose to “Your body is mine!” Might just mean people need to think before giving dragon balls.
Nah i just went against ginyu and i was downed when i was still dragon changed but im on xbox dont know if that makes a difference
Couldnt he have swaped with the 4 level
Is anyone else getting a bug where u still getting the bonus 30 zeni even tho we que for raider
Not a bug, they tweaked it and now it applies even if you search for raider que
If i were to actually Rank them again bases on Level 4's
1. Zamasu Fused
2. Ape Vegeta (tbh you can flip between either one or its super close imo)
3. Ginyu (with everyone alive he would be 4th if he is missing J&B)
4. Broly
5. Frieza
6. Kid Buu
7. Cell
Even though the Raiders in this game are decent to ok to REALL GOOD. the only 2 Raiders who have a better shot in this Meta right now is just Broly, Zamasu they have the tools to counter them or at least play around them.
While the other raiders don't. That still doesnt mean their power is super bad. They just tend to struggle a lot more because they lack the necessary tools now to go up against a good team or a group of competent survivors.
I am so bad with ginyu force i always die with guldo and recome any tips?
Avoid fighting as Guldo if possible, focus on finding civilians. If you get jumped try and stall for as long as you can
Ginyu under the right conditions is a top 3 raider. Ngl in hindsight that "Bug" is a nerf because at end game no joke more would be more in your favor because of that. If they lacked the barrier or could be knocked giving Ginyu or anyone after Recoome instant pressure
The issues with Rankings these RIders is at their best and Goku Black based on what you can do with him he could be tied or better than Ginyu making Ginyu a Top 4 Raider. (If they lack J&B i mean)
Literally didn’t even try to change bodys
Ngl, all I saw was you messing everything up at the last level, yo shouldn´t have ignore Broly that much.
If I focused him then the STM woulda just started anyway
I’m shit at raider and I can still win with my boys so Imma say yes
I don't like the ginyu force because it rewards people who aren't good and is almost impossible to beat if they can keep members.
??? Do you play them? That's a shit take imo they don't get rewarded for losing. At all
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 it's a free level 4, sure, you don't really want to lose members but no other raider gives you a free level 4 or has some break strike at all levels (outside maybe broly but they start at level 2 also and need to fight a st at all levels). It just seems like training wheels.
@@proffesorspiderlastname5654
Just because you get a level for losing 4 doesn't mean anything especially with the Meta of the game and the drawbacks to losing the members. Plus they all naturally have low HP Broly doesn't have lower HP than Ginyu's team
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 a survivor team being good can be bad for any raider, yes, that's not always going to be the case that a survivor team is good (if as survivor you are playing solo it is difficult with an uncoordinated team of people who don't know what they're doing). Ginyu is really good in this case because if guldo isn't killed or jeice and burter get out before STM for survivors (which can happen with randoms) they are going to win, there isn't much of a strategy with Ginyu force outside of getting to your level 3/4 without losing guldo or jeice and burter and it's basically just a win if they don't have an ult change.
I am also just saying why I personally don't like them, maybe I could have worded it differently but that's just how I actually feel about them.
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