Perfection at their Price! Elac Uni-Fi 2.0 UF52 Review
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Perfection at their Price! Elac Uni-Fi 2.0 UF5 Review
0:00 Start
2:54 General Information
3:46 Different Features
5:27 Gear Pairing
7:06 Fit and Finish
8:12 Listening Impressions
15:06 Speaker Measurements
18:16 Final Thoughts
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Just got my UF52 and I´m just about 15 hours in but man, these are allready the best speakers I ever owned and heared this far! I had these so far:
Elac Debut 5.1
Wharfdale Diamond 11.2
Elac Debut Reference
Polk ES20
Klipsch RP600M
Elac B6
Mission LX-3 MKII
Triangle BR03
Monitor Audio Bronze 100
Dali Oberon 3
And these are - at least for me - the best 🏆
Really appreciate the speaker measurements portion. That what makes this channel and review style better than any other channels on youtube.
Ditto. I think that some basic measurements are essential to a good review. You might want to consider adding your own sensitivity measurements. Sometimes manufacturers pad this spec a little.
Love the warm welcome back to New Record Day note, it really rings true. You're an honest an credible source with heartfelt sincerity.
Great review Ron! Production levels are great and very informative with some humor. Really enjoyed it and I want to hear these speakers. Love big sounding speakers!
Ron, always love your reviews. Based not just on what you said but how you said it -- these are exciting speakers. Thanks for this!
Pretty much a bummer day today based on things I'm not going to get into but I watch Ron's video and it makes it semi all better!😬🤗😇 I sure wish the world was filled with more Ron's and accomplices, You Know Who You Are!😃 Just discovered Steve Miller Band although was aware of their work, a hit in every song!😬 Compression divers for the win!😉😉😬😇
Fantastic Review Ron! Great Job!!! Andrew will hire you...:)
Andrew strikes again!! Thank u Ron for the hard work.
Nice Job Ron as always!
I had been researching and viewing reviews for two weeks to find affordable modern speakers to pair with my completely modern system. After this review, I was convinced to purchase the UF52s. I just finished up the speaker break-in, and they are astounding. Originally, they were about $700 a speaker, but I got them on sale through Amazon right now for $461 a speaker! Cool!!! Great Review!!!
Hi Ron,
I’ve purchased a pair of ELAC Uni-fi and they sound great. I’ve paired them with Rotel 1592 MkII , another one of your recommendations and I’ve my first Hi Fi . They sound great and I want to thank you for your guidance. You nailed the reviews, man.
Andrew I love your TADs!!
Love the review my friend. Perfect
Thank you kindly
Thanks for the awesome review! I've been interested in the Ohm Walsh speakers since Z-Reviews reviewed them. Would love to see you review them and to see what you think of them. Would you ever consider reviewing Ohm speakers?
I think as far as texture and tone, if you have a cone that is designed properly and is dampened correctly you can get all the texture that is demanded. Also I think the spectral decay shows that he got it under control. I wish I had the money to just buy these up now
The new Unfi 2.0 and the new Elac Debut Reference are very close in price . I highly request you compare them. Thanks for your great videos.
It would be nice for him to do the video,I know what's I'm rolling with The UN-FI's, but I like all his stuff, just can't afford the higher end stuff yet.
Someone once said: "Music lovers use their equipment to listen to music; audiophiles use music to listen to their equipment." LOL I have to say, I think that's pretty spot on.
Hi Ron, nice work! Do you feel the bookies have some of the classic advantages over the floor standers (e.g. better imaging, driver integration, speaker disappearing)? Also wondering which ones for low to mid level listening with a sub in mid sized room?
Super well done OG Ron
Very cool
Earlier today, I watched your video on the Uni-Fi 2.0 bookshelf(s) and these floor standers, as with them, sound
like home-runs for Andrew Jones. (again). That Marantz 30 has really got me intrigued as well. Sean @ Zero
Fidelity seemed to be of the opinion that the Marantz 30 would be a good choice for a guy like me that enjoys
low to mid level listening. The Uni-Fi 2 with the Marantz could be a good marriage. Get me a decent shag-rug
and I'm good to go.
Lots of great speakers and affordable prices now a day's
Ron, great review! However, and I believe I speak for many who are itching for a change but there are way to many options... It's time for your best/favorite speakers both bookshelves and floor standers for below $1k (bookshelves) & $1500-ish or less on the floor standers video. Please Please Please ! 👍🏽
Great review as usual ! 👍🏽 You got me interested again with the Elac brand (I have a pair of the original UB5's in the guest bedroom and that's only because it couldn't come close enough for me to give up my Logan's. I'm a big fan of Andrew especially after meeting him last year at C.E.S in Vegas. He's very down to earth and you can feel the passion he has for his craft. However, I went to their website with the intent of possibly purchasing the new Ub5 2.0 and the center speaker to give them another shot of unseating my Martin Logan's but their cookies policy just ruined it it. The terms aren't worth the risk of my privacy. Sucks but hopefully the new Uni's become the next bigger thing out there.
Ron, I wanted to compare the bass response for the UF 52 and the UB 52 to decide which speaker to purchase, but the info you posted for the UF 52 at 15:39 and 16:09 and the equivalent info you posted for the UB 52 at 14:31 and 15:49 appears to stop just above the 200 Hz crossover point where the woofers come in. Would you please add a chart that shows what happens at and below 200 Hz to help me decide whether it is worth the extra $600 to get the UF 52s? Your review is very helpful, thank you!
Ron, much appreciated.
Something I immediately see, the impedance of the bass range makes this thing nicely efficient within the bass punch/kick region.
Not efficient in the typical sensitivity sense ... what I mean is with impedance upward of 10ohms or higher, the current needed is modest ... thus less I(squared)R losses, minimizing thermal compression.
This translates into responsive, punchy and agile bass.
Andrew Jones, ... his Kung Fu is good👍
Thanks for the great review! Hmm, these seem to be better than the DFR62 that was reviewed before. Do these still lack bass like the Debut Reference towers? Seems like the specs are not that different. Also how do these compare to the SVS Prime Pinnacle that you also reviewed? Seems like those get lower down, but arenas as clean. Would be great to see a comparison of these.
I've never understood why someone would buy bookshelf speakers (on stands) vs towers. They take up the same footprint. And good stands with bookshelves cost almost as much as towers from the same fam. That was a very thorough review. Thanks!
Joe Murphy towers can overwhelm a small room and placement for towers can require too much space. Bookshelves are usually cheaper and sometimes the bookshelf member of the family sounds better.
Price and placement.
Bookshelves with dual subs>>>>>>>
Majority of floorstanders aren't digging as low or as accurately as a pair of good subs. For the money, I'd always prefer bookshelves with subs.
You can disconnect the sub from the speaker, which is good because best placement differs for 99% of rooms. My towers requite a sub, because they don't reach down. So why buy that tower? I'll let you work that out for yourself. :)
My Uni-Fi UF5 are still good... my Uni-Fi UF5 are still good..lalalalalala I can't hear you..nope.
dammit.
:)
OMG, laughed so hard! My thoughts exactly... Just received delivery of 'closeout priced' older UF5's... They sound wonderful, but now this! - Amazon return window maybe?.... Need to see Canadian pricing first. Usually it's full retail for a couple of years.
Damn it exactly what I'm thinking. I have 3 uni-fi f5 towers in my home theater so I am very conflicted. I will sell them now
For real.
🤣 guys, I think dear old Andy jus layed down th gauntlet to Klipsch, SVS & maybe Triangle on bookshelves & seemingly towers also. If we were out of debt or even close , I'd have already ordered these & definitely a new amp 2 match! I bet that Marantz works fkn awesome w/ these b/c I love th sound a bit on warm side. So jealous right now🍻
Hi, can you comment on how it compare to the GR Research NX-Studio which is open baffle design such soundstage, imaging, detail, sweet spot, etc.? Thanks
This makes me want ot get a pair and see how they sound and compared them to Emereald Physics CS 1.3 or Polk Audio SDA SRS 1.2 (low end excluded). Just love what he's doing with his lineup.
Bought a pair of these after seeing your review to connect to a Cambridge Audio CXA81 with an SVS SB3000 sub and the combo is amazing after a little speaker break in. Adding a Topping D90 MQA dac for Tidal streaming next so will see if that adds any additional improvements.
@profound… I’m eyeing this pairing. Are you still happy? Also Curious about the added DAC compared to the internal one in the amp. Thanks
Hi I have a pair of debut 6.2 with sub 3010. Is it worth going to the new uni-fi .I can't put the speaker's away from the walls. Please advise
Nice review! Any insights into how these speakers compare to the B&W 603 or Monitor Audio Silver 300, which are all at about the same price point?
Sweet review. I hear Jones’s Unifi series is pretty low of sensitivity. Will a 15W tube amp work with them.
FYI (just in case you haven’t read them already) Roy Allison wrote several papers in the 70s in the Journal of the Audio Engineering Society on the effect of room boundaries most notable among these are “The Influence of Room Boundaries on Loudspeaker Power Output", JAES Volume 22, Number 5, June 1974 and "The Sound Field in Home Listening Rooms", JAES Volume 24, Number 1, January/February 1976
Sounds like they took a lot of cues from the Adante series.
Ron, you reviewed the Adantes. How do these compare to those?
With this review not only did I hear a mic drop in California, I heard a lot of audiophiles crying and scratching their heads wondering how it’s possible these are so good for so little money, relatively! I’m including myself in that as well! Great review!
Many thanks for this. Helped me shortlist these with the Monitor Audio Silver 200s. Currently, the Elacs are sub $1000 from Crutchfield. I was prepared to A/B these two for a week or so. But the comparison lasted less than 4 hours. The MA's are beautifully made - the Elacs are not. But close your eyes and it's all over. The Elacs are so lovely to listen to. The bass is decent - not as extended as I expected with 3 woofers. However, listening to some bass test material (Flamenco by Adam Ben Azra and Lou Reed's Walk on the Wild Side) I was delighted with good speed and really good texture - the wood in the string bass is so clear. The absolute killer for me was the mid-range, especially voices. Listening to Chet Baker and Joan Armatrading was truly emotionally involving. Upper frequencies are nothing to get excited about (sorry lol) - a little polite maybe. Detailed for sure but never bright or 'tizzy'. The Elacs took up more room than the MA 200's and my wife and would have loved to have owned another pair of MA's - we are long time fans since our old MA3's. But, the Elacs won the sonic battle by a mile. For reference, I drove both with a Bluesound Powernode N330 in a 'great room' that is 25ft x 25ft with a 20ft ceiling. The POWERNODE drives both to very loud levels. So, I think even a fat 25W could be enough in most rooms. Thanks again, Ron.
Great review. I have a similar sized room. How far apart are your speakers and what’s your listening distance? Have you ever felt the need for a sub? Have you tried the Elacs for movies as well? If so, how’s the dialog without a center?
@@phillipzito5880 The speakers are about 8 ft apart and the listening area is not central in the body of the room. They are off the wall by about 15”. They have decent base. Neither I nor my wife like extended base or gut felt. We don’t watch much action stuff. But on movies with dialogue and music we both feel they are excellent. Staging and naturalness are the key characteristics. Boxes disappear- even up close. Off axis is very good. Not electrostatic but wide open. Btw. Had some connection drops with Bluesound.
Another great review. Ron, I have been considering these, and the SVS Pinnacles... just can't make up my mind. My room is 15'x15'X10', I several amps to through at them; IOTA PA3&SA3 stack, the Yamaha A-S2200, and the Parasound 2250 2v. Please give me your valued opinion. I appreciate your reviews an opinion(s). I listing from my wheelchair which is a list;e high that a couch. Thanks
Nice how you have the new Marantz there in the background 😂
What a great review! Any idea if these would pair well with Audiolab's 6000A integrated amp for movie watching in 2.0 and music? :)
I love Audiolab gear, but these are a little short on power. These speakers need headroom or they'll sound a big dinky, flat or even grainy in crescendos, peaks, transients. (80-100 wpc minimum in my experience)
Not for listening volume, but for the dynamics. You will definitely notice the difference. They sound like different speakers. (Look at the power Elac has allocated to the integrated Navis, basically a powered UB52 and you'll get the idea.)
But if you already own the very nice 6000A try it out first before throwing money at the 'problem'.
So how many inches from the wall is the best placement? I'm guessing the rear ports prevents it from being right up against the wall?
Great video Ron! I'm with you on the veneer. The finish ELAC put on the original unfi slims and the magnetic grills are missing on this new model. Especially with the aesthetic of the new woofers, with their one-piece cones (no dust caps), bring to the party. I bet ELAC is on this and a reference or slimline model will rectify both issues.
So glad Andrew is just engineering away and ELAC is pumping out his designs. I've sent quite a bit of money their way. Would love to hear a high-efficiency design from Andrew. I know the enclosure would be larger, but a concentric driver design with an efficiency of 90+ dB that extends into 40 Hz region would be AWESOME!
How would these compare to the DFR52? Lovely review, well done
Anybody else spotted the spider walking on the side of the left speaker at 6:06 - 6:12 ? 🕷
What about the matching centers with extra wonder instead as LCRs??? Since concentric mid/tweeter, why not get an extra bass driver in bookshelf size instead upfront?!
Better head room potential
great review! very interesting and thorough! wonder how these new elac uf52 would compare to the adantes af61.... which pair would be better for jazz and classical music? love an open, honest sound. instrument placement is also high on my list. they would be powered by an IOTA stack... any advice anyone?
I'd love to hear Ron's take on this question!
I bet that shag carpet goes well with the avocado colored kitchen appliances. Go 70s!
Dear (potential) Elac-Owners and dear Ron Brenay,
has anyone had the experience to compare the Elac Uni-Fi CC U5 against a single BS U5 (the ones from the series with the satin finish)? What can I expect from the additional low end driver? Could the composition of the CC U5 drivers cause problems in a vertical position?
I was considering moving my two BS U5s to another room, buy three CC U5 and set them up horizontally and vertically for a left-center-right configuration. Any objections as to why this could go wrong?
Eagerly awaiting your input. TY.
Good job, makes me want to get a listen. ? how was the sound stage compared to the Spatial Audio M3 Sapphire you reviewed recently?
The Sapphires are on a different level and should be, they are $5000!
@@Newrecordday2013 Ok that kinda gives me a bit more direction as well, thanks!
Would the towers benefit from a sub in a 2.1? Thinking about the Emotiva SE8 with these for music and movies. Can't do a bigger sub because my condo is in an apartment complex in the city. Thoughts?
Hi! Would the Cambridge Audio Axr100 pair well with this set up or should I try to find a used cxa61?
Is the Cambridge axa35 amp adequate enough to drive these in a small to moderate sized room? Thank you
I used to have some decent audio gear.
I just left it all with my dad when I moved off to college.
Now that I'm in my 30's I'm looking to get back into music and buy some new hardware for a decent 2-3.1 channel system.
We'll see. Maybe a pair of these with a seperate woofer.
Great chance to score the UF5's for $600!!
I've been looking at three speakers lately. The wharfedale 11.2 and the 225. I'm curious how they compare if it's worth the price jump. Also how they compare to the triangle broea 3. They seem Better Built and more forgiving of placement near a wall than the triangles. Most of the time in the home theater I don't have a choice but to put them too high and close to a wall. When I do 2 channel with the turntable I could pull them down and out. They're just really hard to find reviews for.
Was looking at the same speakers or even the wharfedale diamond 11.4 which are way more but the look alone might be worth the price jump they are just beautiful to my eyes 👀
What would be the drawbacks of going with the bookshelves plus subs rather than floorstanders without (or with) subs? Won’t the sub cover the bass that the bookshelves don’t provide? Or would the subs lack in tonality compared to floorstanders with or without subs?
I think I've watched this video 3 times now since there just isn't very much out there about the UF52's. I'm looking to replace my old tiny home theater speakers and would love these to work for me but so many reviews are pointing me at the SVS ultra towers or klipsch 8000F. I know there is a price difference but it's UF52's plus center now or SVS ultra and no center till later type of choice. Plus I'm not the type to upgrade every couple years so I know whatever I buy now will have to keep me happy for 10 years. Has anyone on here tested both?
Can you compare the ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 TOWER vs. PSB Imagine X2T
Would these fit well together with Marantz 6007 CD player and Marantz 6005 amplifier? Thanks for any input 👌🏼🎶
UB5 was my first ELAC speaker and I love it. I've been having it for 1.5years and a couple of months ago I added the new center channel (UC52) from the new UniFi 2.0 line. I have immediately noticed that the UniFi 2.0 doesn't have magnetic grille and that the build quality and overall solidity of the speaker was bellow what I was used from UB5.
I thought that it's probably because it's just a center speaker and I blind-fully purchased UF52 hoping that it would have similar build quality to my original UB5 but I was very, very dissapointed.
1. Magnetic grilles are no longer there. If you like your speakers without grille, you will now see the holes.
2. The build quality is very, very bad. I have a set of Polk TSi300 which are three times less expensive and I the new UF52 are in line with those
3. The legs for the grilles are made out of a very cheap plastic and both of my speakers came with broken legs! not only that, but some remained stuck in the speaker housing itself and difficult to remove.
4. One of the speakers came chipped on a corner and you can see how the material looks like
5. In terms of sound, I think they are very similar to UB5 but have a bit more bass
I don't understand why ELAC has cheapened out a series that started to be very good. It leaves me no other choice but to look for a different brand as I believe the value of UniFi 2.0 in terms of build quality is matched by a 3x less expensive speaker.
I have returned my UF52 a couple of hours after getting them.
How does the Elac Debut Reference and the Uni-Fi 2.0 line compare?
Both great. Reference is buttery and warmer. I went with the Uni fi 52.
How would these compare to the Elac Carina FS 247.4 speakers anyone??
I was right! Those were Elacs in that earlier pic. Drats, should've figured there'd be something new. I would've loved to try these out too.
I have the elac uni-fi uf5 speakers. Is it worth buying the elac uni-fi 2.0 and selling my uf5
This is verbatim what you said in the review of the bookshelf versions.
Hi Ron. I’ve been following you channel for along time. I have a question for you. I have a pair of Elac B6’s in beautiful Rosewood veneer.
I really enjoy them. I also have a beautiful pair of piano gloss Usher s-520s dual binding posts.
I have someone who want to trade me both pairs of speakers for one pair of KEF walnut 101s with the banana mods.. also beautiful and sound amazing. Is this a good trade? I know it’s a big question but I really appreciate your thoughts.
Hi Ron. I'm having issues with my Elac towers and also center.
I got today Denon X3700H and same speakers full set bookshelf, center and towers. I ran audyssey many times with speakers position changed. Few times i got some speaker not giving phase error, but always 3 total. Last run it was both Front and Left with center phase error. Before that was center, left front and right surround. I guess this is just Denon Audyssey issue with echo in the room. Its first time i experience this problem. With old 2400h i didnt have any issues with phases.
Im not sure if i should swap wires on those reported speakers? I use normal wire without bananas. Im curious if this is Elac speaker problem or common with Denon audyssey 32XT???
Maybe you can ask Andrew if Unify 2.0 has some internal wiring that confuses Denon room correction or its 99% room echo issue? Cant be defect with speaker as it sounds ok when i tested with stereo and all channels with movie.
As long as you are sure they are hooked up correctly then it's Audyssey. My Denon 6700h did the same. Just move on when asked and you'll be fine. No issues it's normal
Vs Kef Q550? Any sound clips?
Damnit...now I want these...😬😬😬
I just got these, and I LOVE them....I would say they are power hungry though...I blew up my DIY ICE 200 amp (lots of BUZZ from the amp now).....luckily, only $130 to replace the board.
My Crown XLS 2500 is now in place to take over.
However, the crown is just temporary, I have an Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 3 on order. :)
Ended up getting the 7 channel emotiva. Pushes them too well. Rob zombie blew a mid range in one of the towers. Replaced under warranty. But they destroyed one amp, caused my schiit amp to go into self protect mode, and blew on my emotiva amp. Fucking goldy locks speakers man.
As much as I loved them. They are too frail. Replaced with svs pinnacles. Not as smooth and velvety, but they have more detail.
This or the Debut Reference towers? I have tinnitus and am prone to listening fatigue.
New Record Day You say in your video beware of putting them close to front wall. What is the minimum distance from the wall you would suggest they should be placed and what distance should you listen from please ?
You should experiment! Every room is different and your results will be different from mine. I had these as close as 2 feet in my room without issues.
@@Newrecordday2013 Thanks for reply. It would be difficult for me to put them closer than 1.0 foot from wall or 15 inches max
I owned the originals and sold them. I regret selling them. I didn’t like the way they looked ie cheap but from what I recall the sound was basically perfect. I haven’t heard a speaker that makes everything sound good the way those elacs did since then.
Anyone know how these would compare to Wharfedale Evo 4.4 ?
Anyone have experience with this speaker when placed very close, say within 6", off the front wall Trying to find a tower that will work good up close to the wall. .
Two layers of underpad beneath shag carpet? Interesting!
seriously...it’s 2020 and I still can’t believe we are still seeing these companies NOT using magnetic grilles on their speakers. I’ve seen $80 speakers have magnetic grilles so why are we not seeing the same from these $500+ speakers!? Like the ultra towers from svs, Bruh! $2000 for the pair and still no magnetic grilles? lol. ok sorry for my rant
unifi first gen all have magnetic grilles.
Arachnid at 6:20
These vs the debut reference towers.....plz compare!
Ron, thanks for the review, do you really think there will be a reference update for this speaker ? It sounds from your comment like the deal for somebody like me, but I can't pass the look of the cabinet it looks just bad, but a reference would be nice
I wonder how it compares to the similarly priced Triangle BRO8?
The Bro 8s are more exciting on top and less forgiving with midfi gear.
@@Newrecordday2013 Ron ,when you say the Bro8 is more exciting on top do you actually mean that they aren't as flat as the Elacs are through the same frequency range?
Correct
@@Newrecordday2013 Are the Bro 8s have similar detail or resolution to Uni-Fi 2.0?
Ron, you liked the Emotiva T2+ speakers a lot too. They are $999 and much larger than the UF52 speakers. The new ELAC Uni-fi UF52 speakers are about $300 more....Can the UF52 really give you the same scale as the Emotiva T2+ which have larger drivers? Which gives you the most bang for your bucks if you are in the market for $1000 to $1500/pair speakers? You also liked the ELAC DFR52 speakers as well 3 months ago...Decisions, decisions...
The Elacs are better than the T2+ but would need a subwoofer to reach as low.
@@Newrecordday2013 which elacs? these ones? or the ELAC DFR52?
I demo'd the UF51 and chose the Chane A5.5 over it. Wasn't close.
Would be interested to compare the UF52 to the A5.5. Elac's are still $200 more and are rated 6dB less also at 6 ohms.
I own both the ELAC Uni-fi 1 and the Chane A5.5. I'll tale the ELACs any day over the Chanes. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks. To me the Chane A5.5 sounds muffled in the mid-range. The ELACs sound open and clear with great depth and sound stage that the Chanes lack.
@@meohmy7793 I don’t know how to reconcile what you’ve said with my experience.
I had a three week demo with the Elac’s. Benchmark LA-4 preamp, AHB2 amp, and RME ADI-2 FS DAC. Literally no component of your description is accurate. The A5.5 has a massive soundstage (width and depth), better low level detail retrieval, better dynamics, and it could play considerably louder than the Elac without any signs of distress or compression.
So that’s the most accurate and low distortion preamp and amp in the world, and a top 1% DAC. And I’ve got fifteen years of audiograms behind my current evaluation.
The A5.5’s sound more like my Revel F228be’s than any other speaker I’ve yet demo’d. The F228be is definitely not the best speaker I’ve heard, but it’s a good one. And the A5.5 delivers a much bigger share of its performance than the Elac did.
I don’t mean any disrespect, but something doesn’t add up.
@@meohmy7793 If you want more presence in the midrange (and a deviation from dead-neutral tuning), Jon had previously said that you can remove the midrange driver and pull 1/3-1/2 of the damping material from the midrange sub enclosure. I don’t recommend it, but that may be more to your taste.
Have you heard the Tekton Lores? Was about to get them, then I saw this video. Lol
i ordered the tekton lores and returned them after 2 weeks. very disappointed with those speakers! very flat, lacking in texture! very cool mids without any "meat". not very cohesive sound; not great integration. i did like the bass as being fast and honest and reaching quite low (30s territory) but that was about it. i was never able to enjoy music with them. too lacking in every department.
I see the new Uni-fi towers are coming out and think "I should check the price of the originals". $600 later I have a pair of Elac UF51's on the way.
Holy crap, that is a good move on your part. I am not sure if the new ones are worth twice the money or really, $1200 a pair? I just went for the GR Research Encore X-SLS. Had this $600 pair price come up two weeks ago, I would own these instead. Sold my UB51 3 weeks ago.
@@briansimmons5363 Yeah, I'm really glad I checked when I did. They are all sold out now. Feel like this was a great deal while it was there.
Congrats on the GR Research purchase. Everything I have heard about the Encores has been great.
@@JC-lk3oy I wonder if they will keep them in the line like the Debut 6.2s? At the end of the day with the upgraded components, wood, binding posts (not tube connectors), veneer, misc. supplies I'll be close to that $600 mark. The mini tower version really jumped my veneer price. I hope I made the right decision with no prior listening and trading in my UB5s. Plus hard to get a decent price on Craigslist with a non-branded DIY speaker. PS. I actually think I "rented" my UB5s for a little less than $100 a year. Bought them for $450, sold them for $250 on CL.
Ron how do these compare with the entry level Tektons in your opinion? Thanks.
Good question because I was look at the lore reference.
@@randalllawkin hello guys... i have not heard these UF52 but I did have a pair of Tekton Lore Reference for a while in my home and returned them. I was very disappointed with those speakers. neutral, yes; but lifeless! talk about lack of texture! that was the breaking point for me. bass was decent, fast, clear. mids were on the cool side of neutral but extremely boring and anemic, and treble was lacking in air. I compared the tektons with my Q acoustics concept 40 and it was really not a match! not even close! the q acoustics are way superior speakers in every single department! would love to listen to these UF52 or the DFR52.
Any word yet if unifi reference version will be coming out anytime soon?
Not that I have heard
I have mate, i e-mailed Elac and they said there are plans to, I'm waiting for those
@@TexasCorgiGun oh wow that is great news I will wait as well! Very excited for that. I emailed them a while ago and they said no, maybe they are more open about it now. I wonder what they will improve on other than the finish of it.
@@mcjonner I know I'm exited too, i mean if you take a look at the business model, it was expected. Somebody else emailed them and they said there was no plans for it, but I have the email if you want to see it I'm imagine there will be some cabinets upgrade or something. I'm just waiting for it, the email just said this:
ELAC Customer Service (ELAC)
Jan 27, 2021, 1:30 PM PST
Hello,
There are plans for a UniFi 2.0 reference. I do not know when they will be ready for release.
Respectfully,
ELAC Customer Service
@@TexasCorgiGun that's perfect all I need to know. Hopefully it's similar to how they released the debut reference. Man I'm excited for these
Ron - frequency response drops like a rock below 300Hz. Why didn't you measure the bass response in your (excellent) listening room?
These are gated responses which shows the actual response of the speaker. In room measurements are meaningless to you - unless you are going to be listening to them in my room. I’m cool with that, come on over!
@@Newrecordday2013 Ron, your previous speaker measurements were in-room, correct? None showed this drop-off.
At least we would know how those octaves behave with room reinforcement.
@@spacejaime No. The room response would show you what it's like only in Ron's room and with his placement. It would be totally different for anyone else and so virtually useless and misleading.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt - ok, so if we compare it to his previous speaker response charts, we can conclude this ELAC has almost NO bass response. Worst measuring bass response I've seen...
I don't get the pricing model. Why price these the same as the DBR series? If these are better than the DBR then the DBRs have to come down in price. Are they cannibalizing sales?
So you like these better than the SVS Pinnacles?
Yes
Are these a solid choice for HT?
Excellent
6:10 spider
These or Bro 8? 🤔
I was thinking the same thing lol ! Ron, what say you Sir?
Ron, I still don't get it. Why do speaker manufacturers continue to make low ohm loads and with low sensitivity? An 8 ohm speaker with high sensitivity is a win win for everyone... Amps, AVR's and IMO preference e.g. having to limit options of really good low wattage power amps like tubes. Klipsch, Tekton and others have proven it. They need to get with the program. Love to hear your opinion. Thx, and I really enjoy your channel & reviews.
@@b.a.2335 While what you said does make sense at first glance, it's not entirely accurate. There are advantages to lower efficiency speakers. They tend to be a bit more linear and accurate. That's not to say this is always the case, but it is easier to do. As far as why low resistance, well, that tends to be the easiest way to get ample power to push low efficiency speakers. Definitely isn't for everyone, but it is a totally viable design choice.
For me..These.. 100% The Bros will apparently have a more revealing top end.
Not a word in "fit and finish" about what a disaster the grills are on the whole Uni52 series?
Fuk Yeah RON
Title says UF5 instead of UF52. They sound like the ones to get...when they are available.
Thanks for catching that!
what? another affordable andrew jones speaker that punches way above it's weight?
$599 each? Do these make espresso as well? Yikes
they will probably go on sale eventually
Thats alot? Seems cheap af
Yikes i thought Audioquest was expensive .....................
These sound like a poor man's Revel F36.... would love to know how they compare!
Hopefully they don't sound as bad as the F36! Former F36 owner here.
@@JPWinters wow! really? can you share any thoughts about the F36?
@@themastroiannis i have revel F35s and i Prefer my Elac unifi uf5 1st gen over them .the revels are to bright and lean for my taste .yes they are clear and clean but have no warmth. Live concerts and acoustic guitars sound ok but overall not my cup of tea ..I bought them listen to them about 20 hours and never touched them again !!!
they sound nothing Like Revels !!! what do you not like about F36s