North: "In the name of the glorious Great Leader Kim Il-Sung, the sun of Korea, the father of the Korean people, and the savior of the land, I bid you Juche-compliant greetings! Korea is one! Death to the American Imperialist and their Japanese flunkeys!" South: "Hello."
+Joel & Lia This European-American stumbled across (not SURE if that's a European or American expression 😀) Your channel while "shirking my responsibilities" for a quick break!! Anyway, like MANY Americans,I love UK accents, so I really love your channel. Regarding emigration, while there's a HUGE Irish population in Boston, I've also heard that many Irish and English folks settled in Southern USA, while Germans and Poles tended to settle in New York, Wisconsin, Minnesota and ,for Germans, especially in Pennsylvania. There's a HUGE number of Polish people in Chicago, Illinois. Thanks again for your fun Channel!!👍😀
The demographics are as follows German Americans at 60 million people came to America between 1820 to 1870 African American at 40 million came to America at 1600 onwards southern Irish at 38 million came to America at 1840 till 1910 Italian Americans same as above at about 16 million those are the main groups also Asian Jewish Puerto Rican French Dutch Chinese etc
As an American who lives in Tennessee, it’s very weird to hear someone say that people in the north will say sweetheart or darling to strangers because that’s exactly what people in southern US say. I call almost every child I see hon or darling and I have been called honey or pumpkin or something by countless amounts of people older than me
In the north, people will say "Morning" to strangers as they pass them on the street. My parents both do it but I couldn't think of anything worse, I think I may be transregional...
It depends on where you are and who you run into in the south. Some places do not like outsiders at all, especially if its a small religious community.
My brother used to live in London; when I went to the shops for the Sunday papers, I passed a man on the pavement and said "Morning". He nearly shit himself and jumped off the kerb into the road. Bizarre! I never thought that friendliness could be construed as rude/aggressive, Joel - how sad. You'd be terrified in Newcastle, flower. We're aggressively friendly. ;) x
@@khadijafayyaz6184 One of the coldest cities?Lol you are in the Mediterranean Sea climate.Imagine the black sea climate here.Less than 20 celcius for most of the year.
@@yasashii89 yes, Americans kept the rhotic original British accent and British decided in most parts, to change their accent to differentiate from the colonists.
@@bonnieroberts6082 the start of non rhotic pronunciations had absolutely zero to do with trying to be different from the colonials. A lot of parts of the US were non rhotic too, especially the east coast and the south.
Northerners miss out half the letters, southerners over pronounce everything, and midlands speak punjabi and other Asian languages because it’s a popular immigration destination.
Interesting, down South in the US, we do the same kind of thing that the Northerners do over there - especially in states like Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, up north in Louisiana, they'll tend to address people as "hon/honey, sweetheart, darling", etc, and it really isn't a problem for us, it's just a friendly greeting. But I could see someone, say from Germany, who's used to a more formal way of speaking with people that they don't know, that may be quite a culture shock... I also love the Northern "dark L" (which I recently found out about through another British youtube channel) and realized it's the way Christopher Eccleston speaks in Doctor Who, when he'd say things like "That's just Llll-eu-vely" (lovely) :D I can do a pretty good imitation of that dark L sound :) I know shirk, but I've only heard it as "to shirk one's responsibilities", I don't think I've ever heard it as "stop shirking"...
Actually in the North the sweetheart love etc isn't that common in the under 40s as its seen as being sexist and quiet frankly it is . Babe is becoming more common especially from woman to woman . But we need to know each other in order to do that . It's dying out and I am glad
Shirking one's responsibilities is definitely something we've heard and are familiar with in the United States. I am from Georgia and have known this term since I was young.
One thing I noticed when I went to Manchester (my first time up north) is that everyone seems so much friendlier than down south. In the south we aren’t rude or unfriendly but we are very polite. Maybe too polite so it gets in the way of being friendly. When people might say hello to people in the streeet up north I wouldn’t want to do that in case i was disruptive toward that person if that makes sense.
Gosh I love these videos you do. Idk why it's so interesting to me. I live in the northern part of the U.S. and yes people are very friendly in southern states like Georgia and Tennessee. But when I went to the New York/Canadian border.. they are waaaay too nice like what Joel was saying. The guy at the hotel kept calling us "hun" every twelve seconds and my family and I were just like... okay. And my mom is the nicest person ever lol. Canadians are notorious for being very friendly.
Thanks so much Lizzie! That's interesting to know! Yeah, I can't stand it when people are too overly familiar! And even though on the surface it seems 'polite' it's actually quite rude because people don't often want that sort of familiarity all the time! Would love to go to Canada though!
Most informative. Very informative. First, shirk is completely understood in America. I am a Midwestern American. The only significant contact I've had with a Brit was a northern girl. She seamed almost puzzled that I didn't recognize she had an accent. After viewing your video I realize that it was because we pronounced the vowels the same.
Definitely see where you’re coming from with these! I’m a northerner, the whole addressing people thing, I would say that we’re more friendly in the way that we talk to people we don’t know in the street or the shop. When we pass each other we say hello where as when I went to London that didn’t happen, people tend to look away more.
Being British: Joel & Lia why do you guys never do videos on Scotland? Or Northern Ireland or wales too, you just stick with England which ngl is so typical of English people
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Hey yall, from Dallas, TX . I do really like Lia's accent tho. Joel's seems very standard. I have to say like mines, unless you know me then you'll hear my Texas drawl come out alot. Lol
5:35 this was so great, and true as a stereotype, and it's a bit refreshing that we all can learn a little bit more about each other's countries. You guys have been all over and now have experienced the difference in the United States, but I doubt many Americans have _any idea_ of the difference between North and South England! Cheers!
I found myself constantly referring to a map of England, to reference locals that you would point out. I was a bit curious where are you drawing the line from North and South England? Maybe a pop-up of a map would be helpful. Thanks for giving me a smile this evening! :-)
Most people define the North as the region of England between the rivers Trent (in the South) and Tweed (in the North). I'm guessing these two follow this practice (even unknowingly). Although culturally this large region is sliced into "halves" by the river Tees so it isn't always so sensible to consider the North so linguistically homogeneous. For instance, as someone from North of the Tees many fellow "Northerners" South of it think I'm Scottish.
@@Ryan-dk7mm Also, the River Trent doesn't run exactly West to East. I would say below Severn-Blackwater is South, above Mersey-Humber is North, in between is the Midlands.
thinking about it grass is gr-ass not gr-arse or bath ba-th not barr-th or laugh not larrth, i know theres somtimes silent lettters but is there a secret system of invisible letters in the south when 'rr' is added to words which northerners aren't taught?
If you know your short vowel sounds then the best way to differentiate would be in the North they use a short a sound, and in the South they pronounce the a with more of a short o sound.
Boring, I know, but I think it goes back to how language evolved during the Viking invasions (mostly in the North/Midlands) vs. the Norman invasion in 1066. Did you know that the abbreviation for Hampshire is Hants, because the Norman invaders couldn't pronounce Hampshire, so it was called Hantscire instead? This may all be bullshit, as the Normans were originally invaders of what is now France from Scandanavia.
It's interesting to me that the first time I visited London, women at the airport just called me LOVE or SWEETHEART, I wonder if they were from the north? lol It was cute though.
I’m from the Southern US, where this happens quite often: Sweetie, Honey, Darlin’. I don’t care for it unless I really know the person. I guess I’m the exception, lol
I'm Bolton area (greater manchester) and I call everyone love, northerners see it as a term of endearment southerners see it as sarcastic and rude, that's my reckoning anyhow.
When we say 'to 't pub" we aren't missing a word out, the "the" becomes a glottal stop. It's well referenced in linguistics.its also found in Dutch, I saw a flyer in a hotel lobby in Ghent that was called "jazz In't park"
So, Joel, with you having studied linguistics, perhaps you would be interested to know that the way that you combined the diphthong in “new” with the way Lia says “Castle,” is exactly the way that a Southerner here in the US would pronounce it. Having listened to hours of your conversations, and those of others in England, I think that we are much like the Northern England in speech, but with a healthy dose of Southern England’s diphthongs.
I come from the north of England and I didn’t know that we are over friendly to some people. I always thought people from the south were rude but now I know that it’s because southerners think we are too friendly. But I love that I’m a northerner. :)
I would have to say shirk is very common in America. That includes people in the north and the south. I think if you asked anyone in America if they knew that word, most would.
Emma Elizabeth - Don't worry, the vast majority of English people feel the same way when Londoner's forget that there are other places in England. And when other people in the world think that London is a country, or England is London, it just rubs salt into the wounds. Relax, mi duck, our day will come and one day we will all descend on London and wipe it from the face of the Earth along with all the ignorant English on the way.
The word shirk comes from Islam. It means "to fail being a monotheist" or to become an idol worshiper. It entered English with the more generic meaning of failing to do one's duty.
British English with Joel & Lia it's an English word. Don't give them one ours, their bastard English is pumped through our tellies and influencing proper English without you giving them one of ours!
I’m an American with Indian parents and it’s funny how northerners speak with more similarities to the American accent but actually Indians speak with more of accent similar to southern England. For example Indians say the aa as in castle and grant and also with words like new and tune they pronounce it like tyune and nyue
Also west vs east England. Down here in the far west in Cornwall and Devon, we have nothing in common with the south, or south east. I've lived all over the British Isles in the last 40 years, glad to be back down here. Friendliest places I've ever lived in were Norn Ireland and SW Scotland, people did say hello to you on the street or road as you passed, it was normal.
I feel like in the north(i'm from yorkshire) we're kinda a lil bit more polite...coz whenever we pass someone we'll smile and say 'mornin' and we don't really sound that posh....
OK, linguistics student here, some clearing up and adding some technical terms to what you're saying. Firstly actual people from Newcastle stress on the Cas rather than the New [njuˈkasl̩], while Joel's [ˈnukɑːsl̩] shows what's called yod-dropping, which is an East-Anglian feature not Midlands or Northern (because Peterborough is technically East Anglia). Furthermore with the "grass" and "mum" things southerners have what's called the TRAP-BATH and FOOT-STRUT split (say them out loud and you'll see why they're called that), which northerners lack. Also round us we'd probably say "skive" not "shirk".
Ice Queen Thing with the US is that your wealth centres are North, so therefore the North is more economic, business based and less ‘friendly’ I guess. The same occurs in the UK (England specifically), but in reverse, because London (our capital is southern). People in the North of England and South USA, generally are working class and therefore more ‘down to earth’ and less exposed to this idea of acting ‘prim and proper’ and minding one’s own business. The exception to this in the UK is Wales and Scotland, people in cities such as Cardiff, Edinburgh or Glasgow are more open to diversity and usually more friendly and approachable than valleys people or highlanders. This is obviously stereotypical and does not apply t everyone
The word hillbilly originated in Detroit, Michigan. When the car factories opened, workers from the south came and the name Billy was very popular ( Billy Bob, Billy Jean, Billy Joe, etc) and people started calling them the Billies from the hills, which evolved to Hillbillies. A small suburb of Detroit named Hazel Park where many of them lived was called Hazel-tuckey.
Another cool video! Here in the States the typical cold “Northern” attitude you were were mostly referring to would be in the northeast (New York, New Jersey, New England). People in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, etc), also technically north as well, but are in completely different region and are also very friendly.
I’m British. I have gone to the Northeast of the US and Chicago, and I did get the feeling that people were unfriendly, although they immediately acted nicer to me once they heard my accent.
As far as the North vs. South divide in the United States, people from the Southern States are friendlier, but as far as the North, it depends on where in the North you are. People from New York City and New England tend to be a bit more direct and aggressive. Knowing plenty of people from London, I would say that they remind me of people from NYC albeit a little less pushy. People in the Midwest region tend to be a bit more down-to-earth and friendly but not as friendly as the South. I would assume we are close to Midland people.
Even in New England it is very different. You could compare people from the southern New England states to New Yorkers, but the northern New England states of New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine are a lot more like people from the Southern US in their attitudes. I used to live in Massachusetts and when I moved to New Hampshire one of the first things that I noticed was how friendly and welcoming people were. I think it has more to do with city vs. rural living than it does region.
K Naida Correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm California born and raised), but I've been told that American southerners are nice in the way they speak to you face-to-face, but it can tend to be for show and they're likely to be silently judging or talk behind your back. Ex: "Bless her heart!"
I’m from Malaysia but there’s one time someone from discord thought that I was from southern England because of my accent hence why I’m here watching this video hahaa xD
FELLOW MIDDLEANDERS! (made the name up on the spot) Ive just thought that it seems like a war. The North, South and Midlands. How have I noticed this only now?
I grew up in the "Heartland" and South/Bible Belt of the U.S. The phrase, "Jeet?" as it is commonly and quickly said was something a lot of my older family would say. It's basically the quick way of asking someone, "Did you eat?" Really enjoy the videos! Glad I came across your channel.
Chicago is a city. The south in America is polite to your face. “The north” is the east coast. The real polite portion of America is the mid-west, where I’m from.
watching this from south mississippi, i can definitely see where our southern accent is derived from that of england! never understood it before but listening to the details by the syllable it’s easy to see how similar they really are
There are more than a few non-rhotic American accents (Boston for example). As an American, I think we sometimes confuse Australian and British more because the vowels sound similar from an American perspective as opposed to rhoticity.
I'm from Carlisle, just south of the Scottish border, and here in Cumbria we don't miss out words in sentences (e.g. "put kettle on"). That's a Yorkshire thing :)
Wouldn't it be easier to just say "I'm gonna make some tea (or whatever hot beverage of choice), want some?" That way, it's implied that you're gonna use the kettle to heat up water.
Much closer to a Lancashire accent, though not the same As a Yorkshireman who has friends in Cumbria I can confirm is much more well spoken than some of the people I know in Yorkshire! It seems to be true about the accent sounding surprised or inquisitive though
Shirking is a very common word. It's what lay a bouts excel at doing, everything but what they're supposed to be doing and not a bit of it is productive. Friendliest state in the USA is Texas! Howdy! We aren't fake, we genuinely mean it. Would love to learn more about rhyming language and phrases. Are they already well established phrases and meanings or is it fluid and created on the spot and you have to be clever enough to figure it out? Love the videos and the flow of your humor. It's so natural and real, not forced.
Marc Mongeon I'm not offended just a little taken aback. Curious as to why the negative reaction to Texas. What about it doesn't appeal to you? It's not everyone's cup of tea but that's probably true of every state :-) I really appreciate your second comment thank you.
Boo Peep, my knee-jerk reaction to people from the southern states is to assume that they are racist and stupid. On reflection, I recognize that I'm wrong. My first comment was my knee-jerk response, and the second, my more thoughtful opinion. You seem like a decent person, so I don't want to get into a fight with you. I don't hate Texas either. I'm from North Dakota, and we're all Americans at the end of the day.
Southern: while living in Texas, people were more rude, etc. But not as much in Iowa. But, in both states it depends what city you are living, and who the people were and are. I am only referring to the two locations that I personally lived in for years. And one city in Texas I visited at, and another part of Iowa I stayed at for about a year showed more rudeness. The whole state of Texas and Iowa are not that way. Just certain cities that I've been to and lived in were, and are that way, and another part of Texas I visited showed more rudeness. My point in this info is that I am confirming that in more south, people are more rude. I don't understand that either. Same with in different parts of the same state, I don't understand why we have different accents (born in the same state, but in North, East, South and West areas). I live in central area in Iowa now.
Guys you are so lovely. I find your videos very educative and funny. I'd love to have a south English accent but I sound more like Sofia Vergara in Modern Family 😫😫😫😫 Hopefully with your help I will improve my accent without sounding fake. I want Lady Mary! 😂😂. Joel you are absolutely gorgeous! Have you been told you look like Ricky Martin? Lia you are soooo sweet! Love you both
Aw thanks Carlos! We really appreciate that! You should embrace your accent - but if you want to change it you always can with a bit of hard work! We're always learning accents and it's difficult and takes time, but you'll get there! I'm told that quite frequently actually! I don't see it though! haha love you x
Joel & Lia Seriously your videos are so entertaining and relaxing, you both make a great team! It feels so homely and friendly, like you are taking part of the conversation! Absolutely love them! Would you please make a video about the articles? I have trouble with them! Xx
Having very little info my guess is that this is a case of “classism” which we Americans know the British pride themselves in. So the closer you are to London the more “posh” you are and the further you are from London the more “country” you are and therefor “less posh” the Midlands are like the suburban kids without the edge or posh of the city or country.
Since you mentioned “hangry”, how would a Northerner vs. Southerner say “angry” and then how would they each say “hangry”. I’m wondering if the Southerner would always sound like they were saying “hungry”.
I enjoyed your video and see it as informative for my vacation to England {Once were given the all-clear signal}. We use the word shirk in the US and I am certain that Canadians are known to shirK off from time to time.
Here's a weird thing, why do people in the South pronounce the 'a' in these words differently. Paths and baths but maths. Class and classy but classic and classify. Glasses, but masses and lasses. Plaster but plastic. Dance and chance but romance. Plan and ant but plant. Password and passport, but passages and passenger. It confuses the hell out of me!
So I lived in England until I was 12 and i moved to America after that. My sisters had always talked about the difference between north and south London accents but i never understood what they actually sounded like bcs i moved. This makes total sense now lol. All my friends at school had northern accents, while mine was southern. It all makes sense now😁
Why did you move to America? That’s one of the worst decisions you could have made. At least, from my experience, people will warm up to you once they hear your accent. But good luck surviving there!
@@kingmegatron7974 i didn't have a choice. My family moved and i had to move too. I was a kid. 🤷🏽🤷🏽 I'm here now and i have to get used to it, i can't really move back now after creating a life in America. I'd have to start over of i did move back.
@@mayas87 you know, I’ve never considered what it’s like to live in America. I’ve visited a couple of times, but I imagine it ain’t the best place to live.
As a Midlander, I relate more to the North than the South but I know younger people relate more to the South. Kids! But fuck you both, we're Midlanders and proud of being neither.
@@avaggdu1 Regardless you lot gave the world heavy metal music. Thanks for producing bands like Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. They are gifts to the world. Cheers a metalhead from Singapore
I saw a British Linguist on TH-cam who went to Germany to hear recordings of British soldiers captured during the war. She said that there were connections to the weather and geography in how people of different places in the same country spoke the same language. Things like mountains, open fields, being close to the sea or in a colder or densely populated area, etc. were reflected in their pronunciation, speed of speech, etc. This was a very interesting and new idea to me.
I’m from Newcastle and I think the long a is due to more foreign influences (ie French) and sometimes the north seems to be Celtic and Nordic influences.( also the older generation seem to say pet ( but not duck?))
I have lived/live in the north and the west (south) of America and I can attest to this as well. It’s not that people AREN’T friendly up north; it’s just that down south and out west the friendliness is more abundant 😂
I have lived in both the North and South. I lived in North Dakota for a short while. I am born and raised in Texas. And...in the South, much like your Northerners, we add friendly names. Our southerners say things like Hun, Sweetheart, or Love.
From the Southern US here and we're very laid back and take things slowly. We also call everyone sugar, honey, and sweetheart whether or not we know you from Adam.
Whoa!! When you said, “shirk”, it brought back so many memories!!! You are not alone. I know that word just because of a very specific cultural context. I was raised Mormon and I’m going to go out on a limb to say every Mormon kid in the US knows that word - so like most of Utah, and huge part of Idaho and Arizona and some neighboring states. We had a popular hymn that used it. Unless someone is completely not paying attention they would know the meaning just by context from within the hymn.
"always" keeps the balance between emotion and reason. Calm with the right steps. Towards "protecting" the right things. Always keep yourself look and feel deeply. Do not let it happen or fall into a situation of excitement or conflict.
I suppose it reflects a subconscious acceptance that they are part of the wider community of nations that form Great Britain or the United Kingdom, rather than a close-minded nationalistic standpoint. This seems a Catch 22 situation...when English people prefer to be identified as British or UK citizens, that's wrong but when English people say they're English we're up ourselves and forgetting that the UK is more than just England. Take a chill pill, dude.
The only way I see any comparisons is USA is like the south UK Canada is like the North ie Heath care more left plus we are hard working class but friendly etc
Shirk is an old word. Basically slacking off, not doing your share of the work. It’s used in a church song from last century, “put your shoulder to the wheel push along, .... etc... we all have work, let no one shirk, put your shoulder to the wheel.”
I can tell you that southern states in America are so nice and friendly. I moved to southern Alabama on the gulf coast, right on the Florida border from Chicago, and I couldn't figure out why everyone was waving at me like they knew me. The whole thing has been like moving to a foreign country. They have so many different words for things that I'm still learning.
the N v S comparison to America is basically the same as when Joel describes the "too personal" reaction Londoners have to northern hospitality. This is the same reason the north in the US is considered colder and less friendly, but it's mostly concentrated around the northeast corridor (New york, Philidelphia, Boston area).
I'm from Pennsylvania and we wave to strangers in our cars if they are driving on our road or say morning if we walk past someone on the sidewalk/road. You'll find this in small towns..
As an old Lancashire lad I found your video very good. I wouldn't have said Lia is from the West Midlands, I like to hear language spoken in different accents and as you said as a Proper Northerner I just get stuck in and ask where you from?
One of my great-grandfathers is from Chesire and another is from Hertfordshire, so I'm curious to learn both accents haha Whenever I practice a British accent, though, I tend to gravitate to the southern accent.
A lot of accents I like are Northern. Probably because many of musicians I like are from the north. I find Ant and Dec (who are from Newcastle) very likable.
Hi, I come from Korea and I'd like to talk about North and South.
No, not really.
North: "In the name of the glorious Great Leader Kim Il-Sung, the sun of Korea, the father of the Korean people, and the savior of the land, I bid you Juche-compliant greetings! Korea is one! Death to the American Imperialist and their Japanese flunkeys!"
South: "Hello."
basically the same kinda relationship between North and South of England
I thought Brotherhood (태극기 휘날리며) was an excellent film. Oldboy (올드보이) was amazing too, but probably not relevant.
LOL
Fun fact, most of the people from the southern U.S came from the North of Britain/Ireland. Scots-Irish, Cumbrian, etc.
That's interesting. I knew lots of Americans were from here but didn't know they were mainly living in the South!
Being British: Joel & Lia nearly all white Americans are of British or Irish heritage .
+Joel & Lia
This European-American stumbled across (not SURE if that's a European or American expression 😀) Your channel while "shirking my responsibilities" for a quick break!! Anyway, like MANY Americans,I love UK accents, so I really love your channel. Regarding emigration, while there's a HUGE Irish population in Boston, I've also heard that many Irish and English folks settled in Southern USA, while Germans and Poles tended to settle in New York, Wisconsin, Minnesota and ,for Germans, especially in Pennsylvania. There's a HUGE number of Polish people in Chicago, Illinois. Thanks again for your fun Channel!!👍😀
@@thyikmnnnn don't forget German, 'Scandinavian', and Italian...
The demographics are as follows German Americans at 60 million people came to America between 1820 to 1870 African American at 40 million came to America at 1600 onwards southern Irish at 38 million came to America at 1840 till 1910 Italian Americans same as above at about 16 million those are the main groups also Asian Jewish Puerto Rican French Dutch Chinese etc
As an American who lives in Tennessee, it’s very weird to hear someone say that people in the north will say sweetheart or darling to strangers because that’s exactly what people in southern US say. I call almost every child I see hon or darling and I have been called honey or pumpkin or something by countless amounts of people older than me
Living in the north, I can assure you we don't address people that way. We don't even acknowledge people.
Exactly! I love that southern hospitality, up north it’s way rude
I live in Northern USA, I find those “cute” names disrespectful.
@@noellealdi881
Northeast coast of the USA is where the people are rude
As someone under the age of 40 it isn't common in northern england
In the north, people will say "Morning" to strangers as they pass them on the street. My parents both do it but I couldn't think of anything worse, I think I may be transregional...
haha, transregional! Amazing! Yeah Northerners generally are more friendly to strangers - which I don't understand! haha
southerners are tosspots .. k that might be a bit harsh
Funny, Northerners seem to speak a lot like people who are from the Western States of the US, and have very similar levels of friendliness.
I was thinking the same thing. I live in California and we say Good Morning to people in general. It is considered polite.
George Radcliffe happens a lot beyond the wall (Game of Thrones references)
I am from Yorkshire. We say nowt and owt which is nothing and anything
init (what part im west)
i know fam
Same lass I’m the same
Me too from South Yorkshire I say that
I'm from Mansfield and we say the same, except Mansfield is in the mids but in the middle of Sheffield and Notts, so it's like no mans land.
As a solo traveler I made no friends in the south, but immediately made friends up north the very day I arrived.
It depends on where you are and who you run into in the south. Some places do not like outsiders at all, especially if its a small religious community.
My brother used to live in London; when I went to the shops for the Sunday papers, I passed a man on the pavement and said "Morning". He nearly shit himself and jumped off the kerb into the road. Bizarre!
I never thought that friendliness could be construed as rude/aggressive, Joel - how sad. You'd be terrified in Newcastle, flower. We're aggressively friendly. ;) x
Yes we are aha 😂🤦♀️
Oh my god way too true 😂😂😂
I'd love to be there !! (Am from Paris, one of the coldest cities on planet earth)
@@khadijafayyaz6184 One of the coldest cities?Lol you are in the Mediterranean Sea climate.Imagine the black sea climate here.Less than 20 celcius for most of the year.
@@myk1137 OMG I meant, people are cold and unfriendly, not the weather friend.
The way Northerners speak sounds a lot more like we sound in the U. S.. Interesting to know, thanks😀
I was just thinking that lol.
Because northerners speak a more archaic form of english and the same is generally true of people in the US
@@yasashii89 yes, Americans kept the rhotic original British accent and British decided in most parts, to change their accent to differentiate from the colonists.
@@bonnieroberts6082 the start of non rhotic pronunciations had absolutely zero to do with trying to be different from the colonials. A lot of parts of the US were non rhotic too, especially the east coast and the south.
The only similarity between a Northern accent and an american accent is the A sound.
Northerners miss out half the letters, southerners over pronounce everything, and midlands speak punjabi and other Asian languages because it’s a popular immigration destination.
John Nevin have you been to London and Bradford/Leeds 😂 ur joke doesn’t work
Oh my god I died laughing reading this it’s way too funny 😂😂😂
In Liverpool we say every letter
In Manchester it’s either over pronouncing end of words or missing out half 😂
Funny as fuck! 😂😂😂😂
Love the north.
Panzer legend
I'm from Manchester so...
I'm from London but I'm literally in love with the Northern English accent!
Kay • cheers ig
Newcastle
Amazing how being north and south in any country changes your accent.
We use shirk here as well... as in don't shirk your responsibilities(America)
Shirk is a word here in the US. Our meaning here is:
Shirk = To avoid or neglect a duty or responsibility.
Yorkshire:
Am off t shop d ya wan ow?
Normal:
I’m going to the shop, do you want anything?
Am from Yorkshire, can confirm!
"Normal" lmfao
@@heftymagic4814 PLS HAHAHAHAHA
Yes, we use the word Shirk in America. We pronounce it SHərk - Sherk.
The word _shirk_ was used in the Spider-Man movie from 2002. Uncle Ben confronted Peter and said that he had been shirking his chores.
Interesting, down South in the US, we do the same kind of thing that the Northerners do over there - especially in states like Texas, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, up north in Louisiana, they'll tend to address people as "hon/honey, sweetheart, darling", etc, and it really isn't a problem for us, it's just a friendly greeting. But I could see someone, say from Germany, who's used to a more formal way of speaking with people that they don't know, that may be quite a culture shock...
I also love the Northern "dark L" (which I recently found out about through another British youtube channel) and realized it's the way Christopher Eccleston speaks in Doctor Who, when he'd say things like "That's just Llll-eu-vely" (lovely) :D I can do a pretty good imitation of that dark L sound :)
I know shirk, but I've only heard it as "to shirk one's responsibilities", I don't think I've ever heard it as "stop shirking"...
South Carolina too😉 but yeah I was thinking the same thing lol😂
Actually in the North the sweetheart love etc isn't that common in the under 40s as its seen as being sexist and quiet frankly it is . Babe is becoming more common especially from woman to woman . But we need to know each other in order to do that .
It's dying out and I am glad
@@hannahdyson7129 Lmao nothing about that is sexist, this is your second false comment I’ve found 😂
Shirking one's responsibilities is definitely something we've heard and are familiar with in the United States. I am from Georgia and have known this term since I was young.
We use shirk in America.
We do?
We use in the antipodes too.
yup
_xavi_ Sure, like the expression, "Shirk your responsibilities".
Yep!
One thing I noticed when I went to Manchester (my first time up north) is that everyone seems so much friendlier than down south. In the south we aren’t rude or unfriendly but we are very polite. Maybe too polite so it gets in the way of being friendly. When people might say hello to people in the streeet up north I wouldn’t want to do that in case i was disruptive toward that person if that makes sense.
Molly Brown what I noticed is that people are generally friendlier but when you meet an impolite northerner, you run
North east are the most friendly
Northerners aren't fteindly
Gosh I love these videos you do. Idk why it's so interesting to me. I live in the northern part of the U.S. and yes people are very friendly in southern states like Georgia and Tennessee. But when I went to the New York/Canadian border.. they are waaaay too nice like what Joel was saying. The guy at the hotel kept calling us "hun" every twelve seconds and my family and I were just like... okay. And my mom is the nicest person ever lol. Canadians are notorious for being very friendly.
Thanks so much Lizzie! That's interesting to know! Yeah, I can't stand it when people are too overly familiar! And even though on the surface it seems 'polite' it's actually quite rude because people don't often want that sort of familiarity all the time! Would love to go to Canada though!
Most informative. Very informative. First, shirk is completely understood in America. I am a Midwestern American. The only significant contact I've had with a Brit was a northern girl. She seamed almost puzzled that I didn't recognize she had an accent. After viewing your video I realize that it was because we pronounced the vowels the same.
When northerner said they're having tea ( = dinner), I always thought they're having afternoon tea at 7pm...
Definitely see where you’re coming from with these! I’m a northerner, the whole addressing people thing, I would say that we’re more friendly in the way that we talk to people we don’t know in the street or the shop. When we pass each other we say hello where as when I went to London that didn’t happen, people tend to look away more.
Southerners are more awkward I suppose.
We aren't freindly . Just polite
Wow what a pair of beautiful people!
When your name is Grant and it gets very awkward with your name used as an example
how do u pronounce it
Grunt
Just finished adding subtitles! :)
Being British: Joel & Lia What do brits think about scots?
Being British: Joel & Lia why do you guys never do videos on Scotland? Or Northern Ireland or wales too, you just stick with England which ngl is so typical of English people
Being British: Joel & Lia
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Abbey Clancy is the N. Englander that I'm familiar with as an American. She was in Sports Illustrated a few years ago.
Being British: Joel & Lia what about scotland ... I’d totally come film with you!!
Hey yall, from Dallas, TX . I do really like Lia's accent tho. Joel's seems very standard. I have to say like mines, unless you know me then you'll hear my Texas drawl come out alot. Lol
5:35 this was so great, and true as a stereotype, and it's a bit refreshing that we all can learn a little bit more about each other's countries.
You guys have been all over and now have experienced the difference in the United States, but I doubt many Americans have _any idea_ of the difference between North and South England! Cheers!
I found myself constantly referring to a map of England, to reference locals that you would point out. I was a bit curious where are you drawing the line from North and South England? Maybe a pop-up of a map would be helpful. Thanks for giving me a smile this evening! :-)
Most people define the North as the region of England between the rivers Trent (in the South) and Tweed (in the North).
I'm guessing these two follow this practice (even unknowingly). Although culturally this large region is sliced into "halves" by the river Tees so it isn't always so sensible to consider the North so linguistically homogeneous. For instance, as someone from North of the Tees many fellow "Northerners" South of it think I'm Scottish.
@@Ryan-dk7mm Also, the River Trent doesn't run exactly West to East. I would say below Severn-Blackwater is South, above Mersey-Humber is North, in between is the Midlands.
thinking about it grass is gr-ass not gr-arse or bath ba-th not barr-th or laugh not larrth, i know theres somtimes silent lettters but is there a secret system of invisible letters in the south when 'rr' is added to words which northerners aren't taught?
there is no r in path or bath. End of.
truth
If you know your short vowel sounds then the best way to differentiate would be in the North they use a short a sound, and in the South they pronounce the a with more of a short o sound.
Boring, I know, but I think it goes back to how language evolved during the Viking invasions (mostly in the North/Midlands) vs. the Norman invasion in 1066.
Did you know that the abbreviation for Hampshire is Hants, because the Norman invaders couldn't pronounce Hampshire, so it was called Hantscire instead?
This may all be bullshit, as the Normans were originally invaders of what is now France from Scandanavia.
@@streetender1878 but there's an ugh i laugh so it would be la ug ha
It's interesting to me that the first time I visited London, women at the airport just called me LOVE or SWEETHEART, I wonder if they were from the north? lol It was cute though.
haha, yeah they probably were!
maybe east london, you come across that quite often
We all say love
I’m from the Southern US, where this happens quite often: Sweetie, Honey, Darlin’. I don’t care for it unless I really know the person. I guess I’m the exception, lol
I'm Bolton area (greater manchester) and I call everyone love, northerners see it as a term of endearment southerners see it as sarcastic and rude, that's my reckoning anyhow.
When we say 'to 't pub" we aren't missing a word out, the "the" becomes a glottal stop. It's well referenced in linguistics.its also found in Dutch, I saw a flyer in a hotel lobby in Ghent that was called "jazz In't park"
So, Joel, with you having studied linguistics, perhaps you would be interested to know that the way that you combined the diphthong in “new” with the way Lia says “Castle,” is exactly the way that a Southerner here in the US would pronounce it. Having listened to hours of your conversations, and those of others in England, I think that we are much like the Northern England in speech, but with a healthy dose of Southern England’s diphthongs.
I’m from Tennessee, not far from Nashville, actually.
You are very much closer to southern English
I’m literally from the same place as Joel’s family, and I got so excited when he said because no one ever mentions it
Me too😊
Shirk was a vocabulary word for me at some point in elementary school in the Southern U.S. Love your videos!
Joel is right, I've heard and used the term "Shirk your responsibilities" many times. From the US.
I come from the north of England and I didn’t know that we are over friendly to some people. I always thought people from the south were rude but now I know that it’s because southerners think we are too friendly. But I love that I’m a northerner. :)
We aren't over freindly. Just chatty .
That's all
I would have to say shirk is very common in America. That includes people in the north and the south. I think if you asked anyone in America if they knew that word, most would.
I agree. I can't believe any British people don't know "shirk." It's a standard word for Americans and it's not slang or anything like that!
Yep!
I agree
Airtightpuppy what does it mean?
Shirk: To shrug off one's responsibility.
North > South
MUFCJack Agreed and I'm from London.
Agreed and I'm from Manchester.
Agreed and I'm from Nottingham. There we have it, folks. Everyone agrees. Question solved.
disagree south is nicer
I disagree with your disagreement. Aren't pointless opinions wonderful?
Your thumbnail is a picture of the UK but the title is south vs north England...no wonder non uk people get confused...
R Huts thank you. I get so fed up with English people forgetting about the other countries in Britain
Blue true
Emma Elizabeth they’re giving the regional British accents . Did you watch the whole video because they explained. And I believe it’s in the title.
Wolfpup 7170 he means that the UK is not England. England is part of the UK
Emma Elizabeth - Don't worry, the vast majority of English people feel the same way when Londoner's forget that there are other places in England. And when other people in the world think that London is a country, or England is London, it just rubs salt into the wounds.
Relax, mi duck, our day will come and one day we will all descend on London and wipe it from the face of the Earth along with all the ignorant English on the way.
I know the word shirk, and I'm an American. To shirk basically means to skive off.
I think it must be an American word as lots of you guys say you know it.
The word shirk comes from Islam. It means "to fail being a monotheist" or to become an idol worshiper. It entered English with the more generic meaning of failing to do one's duty.
British English with Joel & Lia it's an English word. Don't give them one ours, their bastard English is pumped through our tellies and influencing proper English without you giving them one of ours!
shirk is a normal English word that means evade or neglect, as in "shirk your duties."
Mark OldGeezer, skive off? That's a new one on me, and I'm also American--from IL.
I’m an American with Indian parents and it’s funny how northerners speak with more similarities to the American accent but actually Indians speak with more of accent similar to southern England. For example Indians say the aa as in castle and grant and also with words like new and tune they pronounce it like tyune and nyue
Its Grant not graaahnt, or grunt.
Also west vs east England. Down here in the far west in Cornwall and Devon, we have nothing in common with the south, or south east. I've lived all over the British Isles in the last 40 years, glad to be back down here. Friendliest places I've ever lived in were Norn Ireland and SW Scotland, people did say hello to you on the street or road as you passed, it was normal.
I feel like in the north(i'm from yorkshire) we're kinda a lil bit more polite...coz whenever we pass someone we'll smile and say 'mornin' and we don't really sound that posh....
OK, linguistics student here, some clearing up and adding some technical terms to what you're saying. Firstly actual people from Newcastle stress on the Cas rather than the New [njuˈkasl̩], while Joel's [ˈnukɑːsl̩] shows what's called yod-dropping, which is an East-Anglian feature not Midlands or Northern (because Peterborough is technically East Anglia). Furthermore with the "grass" and "mum" things southerners have what's called the TRAP-BATH and FOOT-STRUT split (say them out loud and you'll see why they're called that), which northerners lack.
Also round us we'd probably say "skive" not "shirk".
The Juke of York? Do you put a coin in his slot to get a song?
Hahahaha you made my day
Nelson Ricardo I don’t want to insert anything into his slot... :|
Fuck off Nelson. You fat bald wanker.
Robert that made me laugh more than his shit comment
J&L the rolling commentary of confusion and entertainment.. just Love It.!
Being a true Southerner of the USA..... we are very friendly people.....and hardly a Hillbilly.....😊
'sterotypes are only made if its happened'
pretty much hillbillys are true
Hillbillies live in the South, but not all Southerners are hillbillies.
Ice Queen Thing with the US is that your wealth centres are North, so therefore the North is more economic, business based and less ‘friendly’ I guess. The same occurs in the UK (England specifically), but in reverse, because London (our capital is southern).
People in the North of England and South USA, generally are working class and therefore more ‘down to earth’ and less exposed to this idea of acting ‘prim and proper’ and minding one’s own business.
The exception to this in the UK is Wales and Scotland, people in cities such as Cardiff, Edinburgh or Glasgow are more open to diversity and usually more friendly and approachable than valleys people or highlanders.
This is obviously stereotypical and does not apply t everyone
The word hillbilly originated in Detroit, Michigan. When the car factories opened, workers from the south came and the name Billy was very popular ( Billy Bob, Billy Jean, Billy Joe, etc) and people started calling them the Billies from the hills, which evolved to Hillbillies. A small suburb of Detroit named Hazel Park where many of them lived was called Hazel-tuckey.
Another cool video! Here in the States the typical cold “Northern” attitude you were were mostly referring to would be in the northeast (New York, New Jersey, New England). People in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, etc), also technically north as well, but are in completely different region and are also very friendly.
I’m British. I have gone to the Northeast of the US and Chicago, and I did get the feeling that people were unfriendly, although they immediately acted nicer to me once they heard my accent.
As far as the North vs. South divide in the United States, people from the Southern States are friendlier, but as far as the North, it depends on where in the North you are. People from New York City and New England tend to be a bit more direct and aggressive. Knowing plenty of people from London, I would say that they remind me of people from NYC albeit a little less pushy. People in the Midwest region tend to be a bit more down-to-earth and friendly but not as friendly as the South. I would assume we are close to Midland people.
Even in New England it is very different. You could compare people from the southern New England states to New Yorkers, but the northern New England states of New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine are a lot more like people from the Southern US in their attitudes. I used to live in Massachusetts and when I moved to New Hampshire one of the first things that I noticed was how friendly and welcoming people were. I think it has more to do with city vs. rural living than it does region.
Patricia...No it is about Britain. We are responding to their comments about America.
Agree since I'm form Connecticut. You got that?....lol
K Naida Correct me if I'm wrong (as I'm California born and raised), but I've been told that American southerners are nice in the way they speak to you face-to-face, but it can tend to be for show and they're likely to be silently judging or talk behind your back. Ex: "Bless her heart!"
@@robbishka You are correct to a degree, though I've witnessed it more with the older people.
I’m from Malaysia but there’s one time someone from discord thought that I was from southern England because of my accent hence why I’m here watching this video hahaa xD
FELLOW MIDDLEANDERS! (made the name up on the spot)
Ive just thought that it seems like a war. The North, South and Midlands. How have I noticed this only now?
I grew up in the "Heartland" and South/Bible Belt of the U.S. The phrase, "Jeet?" as it is commonly and quickly said was something a lot of my older family would say. It's basically the quick way of asking someone, "Did you eat?"
Really enjoy the videos! Glad I came across your channel.
Chicago is a city. The south in America is polite to your face. “The north” is the east coast. The real polite portion of America is the mid-west, where I’m from.
Aye same. Agreed, I’m from Kansas City and my buddy is from Boston. Not a dick, but comes off rude sometimes
People from the North like NY,Boston,Chicago are upfront and not as friendly as the south.
@@busymeowser Not true . The Southern states I found quiet haughty
And I am from Northern England
The rust belt states were the rudest
watching this from south mississippi, i can definitely see where our southern accent is derived from that of england! never understood it before but listening to the details by the syllable it’s easy to see how similar they really are
Right !
In Leeds we call every one Love
The word shirk is used in Dr. Seus Horton Hears a Who (book). I read that to my kids and I love that line. “...is their anyone shirking?”
Northerners are good people...Even Game of Thrones proved it😂
There are more than a few non-rhotic American accents (Boston for example). As an American, I think we sometimes confuse Australian and British more because the vowels sound similar from an American perspective as opposed to rhoticity.
Ah okay, that's good to know!
I definitely thought I was commenting on the Australian v British English video. I'm a little embarrassed.
I'm from Carlisle, just south of the Scottish border, and here in Cumbria we don't miss out words in sentences (e.g. "put kettle on"). That's a Yorkshire thing :)
I’m from south Cumbria and my family miss the “the” out and use other Yorkshire sayings for some reason
Wouldn't it be easier to just say "I'm gonna make some tea (or whatever hot beverage of choice), want some?" That way, it's implied that you're gonna use the kettle to heat up water.
Well making a brew works perfectly fine as a northerner from Lancashire
being from YORKSHIRE, this is true. But this is definitely not just a YORKSHIRE thing. The bloody Scottish do it too.
Much closer to a Lancashire accent, though not the same As a Yorkshireman who has friends in Cumbria I can confirm is much more well spoken than some of the people I know in Yorkshire! It seems to be true about the accent sounding surprised or inquisitive though
Southern sounds like a kitten then: mew, before turning into a cat: meow.
Shirking is a very common word. It's what lay a bouts excel at doing, everything but what they're supposed to be doing and not a bit of it is productive.
Friendliest state in the USA is Texas! Howdy! We aren't fake, we genuinely mean it.
Would love to learn more about rhyming language and phrases. Are they already well established phrases and meanings or is it fluid and created on the spot and you have to be clever enough to figure it out?
Love the videos and the flow of your humor. It's so natural and real, not forced.
Layabout is also a very common word. And Texas sucks.
That was harsh. Texas is just fine. I'm sorry if I offended.
Marc Mongeon I'm not offended just a little taken aback. Curious as to why the negative reaction to Texas. What about it doesn't appeal to you? It's not everyone's cup of tea but that's probably true of every state :-)
I really appreciate your second comment thank you.
Boo Peep, my knee-jerk reaction to people from the southern states is to assume that they are racist and stupid. On reflection, I recognize that I'm wrong. My first comment was my knee-jerk response, and the second, my more thoughtful opinion. You seem like a decent person, so I don't want to get into a fight with you. I don't hate Texas either. I'm from North Dakota, and we're all Americans at the end of the day.
Marc Mongeon All americans are racists, xenophobics and elitists.
Southern: while living in Texas, people were more rude, etc. But not as much in Iowa. But, in both states it depends what city you are living, and who the people were and are. I am only referring to the two locations that I personally lived in for years. And one city in Texas I visited at, and another part of Iowa I stayed at for about a year showed more rudeness. The whole state of Texas and Iowa are not that way. Just certain cities that I've been to and lived in were, and are that way, and another part of Texas I visited showed more rudeness.
My point in this info is that I am confirming that in more south, people are more rude. I don't understand that either. Same with in different parts of the same state, I don't understand why we have different accents (born in the same state, but in North, East, South and West areas). I live in central area in Iowa now.
Guys you are so lovely. I find your videos very educative and funny. I'd love to have a south English accent but I sound more like Sofia Vergara in Modern Family 😫😫😫😫 Hopefully with your help I will improve my accent without sounding fake. I want Lady Mary! 😂😂. Joel you are absolutely gorgeous! Have you been told you look like Ricky Martin? Lia you are soooo sweet! Love you both
Aw thanks Carlos! We really appreciate that! You should embrace your accent - but if you want to change it you always can with a bit of hard work! We're always learning accents and it's difficult and takes time, but you'll get there! I'm told that quite frequently actually! I don't see it though! haha love you x
Joel & Lia Seriously your videos are so entertaining and relaxing, you both make a great team! It feels so homely and friendly, like you are taking part of the conversation! Absolutely love them! Would you please make a video about the articles? I have trouble with them! Xx
Aw thank you! We'll add it to our list of video ideas! Thanks Carlos! xx
Having very little info my guess is that this is a case of “classism” which we Americans know the British pride themselves in. So the closer you are to London the more “posh” you are and the further you are from London the more “country” you are and therefor “less posh” the Midlands are like the suburban kids without the edge or posh of the city or country.
I know shirk Joel.
my friend always says "alcohol makes me shirk my responsibilities"
texas
Beatiful this video! I had lots of fun watching you! Thank you.
Peterborough isn't in the Midlands... It's in Cambs which is in East Anglia. Oakham is the nearest Midland town to Peterborough. Sorry Joel.
Peterborough was in the Midlands (Northamptonshire) until 1965 when the Soke of Peterborough was combined with Huntingdonshire
Since you mentioned “hangry”, how would a Northerner vs. Southerner say “angry” and then how would they each say “hangry”. I’m wondering if the Southerner would always sound like they were saying “hungry”.
Loved this you too are bloody hilarious 😂🙌
Thanks Kayleigh! xxx
I enjoyed your video and see it as informative for my vacation to England {Once were given the all-clear signal}. We use the word shirk in the US and I am certain that Canadians are known to shirK off from time to time.
Here's a weird thing, why do people in the South pronounce the 'a' in these words differently. Paths and baths but maths. Class and classy but classic and classify. Glasses, but masses and lasses. Plaster but plastic. Dance and chance but romance. Plan and ant but plant. Password and passport, but passages and passenger. It confuses the hell out of me!
RickP2012 southerners are weird
"He's getting close to awakening from the Matrix. Send in the Agents."
So I lived in England until I was 12 and i moved to America after that. My sisters had always talked about the difference between north and south London accents but i never understood what they actually sounded like bcs i moved. This makes total sense now lol. All my friends at school had northern accents, while mine was southern. It all makes sense now😁
Why did you move to America? That’s one of the worst decisions you could have made. At least, from my experience, people will warm up to you once they hear your accent. But good luck surviving there!
@@kingmegatron7974 i didn't have a choice. My family moved and i had to move too. I was a kid. 🤷🏽🤷🏽 I'm here now and i have to get used to it, i can't really move back now after creating a life in America. I'd have to start over of i did move back.
@@mayas87 you know, I’ve never considered what it’s like to live in America. I’ve visited a couple of times, but I imagine it ain’t the best place to live.
As a northerner, midlands just count as the south
Nope mate, Midlands would be more of a northern thing than southern to my liking.
As a Midlander, I relate more to the North than the South but I know younger people relate more to the South. Kids! But fuck you both, we're Midlanders and proud of being neither.
@@avaggdu1 Regardless you lot gave the world heavy metal music. Thanks for producing bands like Black Sabbath and Judas Priest. They are gifts to the world.
Cheers a metalhead from Singapore
Yeah I read it somewhere and it said that to northerners the Midlands is part of the south and to southerners the Midlands is part of the north
The Midlands are not North nor South.
The Midlands is closer to South East England . I am just being honest
I live in Yorkshire and from the South, and I love both , cheers
Shirk of a word I use, learned from the adults growing up lol Don't shirk your responsibilities is what they told me!
I saw a British Linguist on TH-cam who went to Germany to hear recordings of British soldiers captured during the war. She said that there were connections to the weather and geography in how people of different places in the same country spoke the same language. Things like mountains, open fields, being close to the sea or in a colder or densely populated area, etc. were reflected in their pronunciation, speed of speech, etc. This was a very interesting and new idea to me.
Talking about mum I’m from the north and I say Mam not mum
Annabel Bradley that's a Scouse thing isn't it
Annabel Bradley I say mam too! I’m not scouse tho
It is a northern thing. Not from the North though. Just happen to know something about that area.
My Mum said Mam, I say Mum, I think it's changing over time. Further north there's a lot of Mams.
I’m from Newcastle and I think the long a is due to more foreign influences (ie French) and sometimes the north seems to be Celtic and Nordic influences.( also the older generation seem to say pet ( but not duck?))
Can confirm the US is flipped haha. The southerners are so much friendlier than us Yankees that it's a little off putting at times.
I love that. Complete opposite to the UK! Are you a southerner or a northerner?
I live up north in the state of Connecticut (half way between Boston and NYC)
I have lived/live in the north and the west (south) of America and I can attest to this as well. It’s not that people AREN’T friendly up north; it’s just that down south and out west the friendliness is more abundant 😂
I have lived in both the North and South. I lived in North Dakota for a short while. I am born and raised in Texas. And...in the South, much like your Northerners, we add friendly names. Our southerners say things like Hun, Sweetheart, or Love.
From the Southern US here and we're very laid back and take things slowly. We also call everyone sugar, honey, and sweetheart whether or not we know you from Adam.
Whoa!! When you said, “shirk”, it brought back so many memories!!! You are not alone. I know that word just because of a very specific cultural context. I was raised Mormon and I’m going to go out on a limb to say every Mormon kid in the US knows that word - so like most of Utah, and huge part of Idaho and Arizona and some neighboring states. We had a popular hymn that used it. Unless someone is completely not paying attention they would know the meaning just by context from within the hymn.
just be me!!!
goddamn English grammar is so hard;-;
haha!
Yeah it is!
"always" keeps the balance between emotion and reason. Calm with the right steps. Towards "protecting" the right things. Always keep yourself look and feel deeply. Do not let it happen or fall into a situation of excitement or conflict.
The North ✌😂
Thanks for another great video!!! Thank you guys! Cheers from Brazil!! 🇧🇷
Liverpool capital of the north
gaz riley is it fuck ahahaha Newcastle is
Im from the north of england and for saying 'are you alright?' we say 'yareet?' or ' ya areet?' its easy but it sounds charvy to others
The north is a disgusting hellhole.
Why do you insist on being 'British' when you actually mean English.
I mean they are.... But a lot of the slang for example is used in all of the uk
I suppose it reflects a subconscious acceptance that they are part of the wider community of nations that form Great Britain or the United Kingdom, rather than a close-minded nationalistic standpoint.
This seems a Catch 22 situation...when English people prefer to be identified as British or UK citizens, that's wrong but when English people say they're English we're up ourselves and forgetting that the UK is more than just England.
Take a chill pill, dude.
I use ‘shirk’ all the time. I’m also American, so it could be one of those words that is more common in one variation of English than another.
The only way I see any comparisons is USA is like the south UK
Canada is like the North ie Heath care more left plus we are hard working class but friendly etc
Does Lia has spanish or Italian ancestry? She looks kinda Mediterranian. You guys are great, love your vids!
I swear that she must be.
She is Greek
Shirk is an old word. Basically slacking off, not doing your share of the work. It’s used in a church song from last century, “put your shoulder to the wheel push along, .... etc... we all have work, let no one shirk, put your shoulder to the wheel.”
I can tell you that southern states in America are so nice and friendly. I moved to southern Alabama on the gulf coast, right on the Florida border from Chicago, and I couldn't figure out why everyone was waving at me like they knew me. The whole thing has been like moving to a foreign country. They have so many different words for things that I'm still learning.
That's because you are from the USA .. of you aren't from the USA they are more hostile
the N v S comparison to America is basically the same as when Joel describes the "too personal" reaction Londoners have to northern hospitality. This is the same reason the north in the US is considered colder and less friendly, but it's mostly concentrated around the northeast corridor (New york, Philidelphia, Boston area).
I actually don't like the north east US especially Massachusetts.
New York kinda sucks as well.
Even in the US we say someone is SHIRKING their responsibilities.
I'm from Pennsylvania and we wave to strangers in our cars if they are driving on our road or say morning if we walk past someone on the sidewalk/road. You'll find this in small towns..
in Newcastle most people say 'mam' or 'ma' not 'mum'
As an old Lancashire lad I found your video very good. I wouldn't have said Lia is from the West Midlands, I like to hear language spoken in different accents and as you said as a Proper Northerner I just get stuck in and ask where you from?
Thank you! Lia is from Warwickshire and Joel is from Hampshire :)
One of my great-grandfathers is from Chesire and another is from Hertfordshire, so I'm curious to learn both accents haha Whenever I practice a British accent, though, I tend to gravitate to the southern accent.
A lot of accents I like are Northern. Probably because many of musicians I like are from the north. I find Ant and Dec (who are from Newcastle) very likable.