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- Done on a plane and straight section of the german Autobahn with no speed limit.
It's a stock E350 CGI Coupé from 2009, with the 3,5l naturally aspirated M272 V6 engine with 292HP.
Not the M276 with 306HP, not the M272 with 272HP.
Very impressive in the 100-200 range
Very quick...sleeper car
the 550s are the true sleepers though this 350 is quick for the base engine
@@brandonczw 5.5 V8 one is just right 👍 4.7 V8 biturbo has a tons of problems.
Your gearchange is very fast for the older 7 g-Tronic. I think there is an Transmission ECU remap in it.
Nope, its the Normal 7G Tronic
I can't 100% assure you that there isn't a remap in it, but I think I would've found out by now. I've driven quite some 7G-Tronics from this time, and they all had these rather quick gearchanges. The very first versions of the 7G-Tronic, like in facelift W211 models, had noticably slower gearchanges, like the one in my E420 CDI.
But I think for W212/207 and W204 models with the 7G this is pretty much the standard gearchange, which didn't get much faster with the 7G-Tronic+ in 2011/12 either. So I think the only really noticable difference in shift time is from the very early 2006/07 "old" versions to those which the W204 and W212/207 got when they started, like the C207 Coupé here.
No , here in 3.5 CGI its 7 g-tronic +
In the previous m272 3.5 272hp its just 7 g-tronic
I noticed you answer in comments so I would like to ask you, I for many years dream the E350 sedan version (2009-2013prefacelift). Currently driving a 1998 w210 E200, no major issues and I am very happy with the reliability so far.
What is your opinion on the 292hp engine? Would you recommend it? Does the car fail frequently? Do you have to go every 1-2 months in the repair shop? What is your overall experience?
Ps: I am the kind of person to keep a car for a lifetime, so I lean to the bulleftproof side of things
@@Takethiskeycard The sedan version of the pre facelift is awesome too! From my experience, the 292hp version does a really good job in terms of reliability. It's a pretty common opinion that the direct injection in the 292hp version causes problems like soot deposition after some time. I can't confirm that though.
The car has about 310.000km on the clock now, with it's first engine of course. Never had any problem with the engine at all, except for one ignition coil failing sporadically, some time ago. This being a pretty general issue though, not causing huge costs and also just appearing after this amount of mileage, I don't think that's a reliability issue specifically related to the engine.
Apart from that, as I said, absolutely no problems whatsoever. Regular oil change and careful driving when the engine is cold are of course extremely important.
Long distances are also a pleasure and no problem for the engine. I take the car to the north of Norway every year, driving about 4.000km in a few days.
Same goes for the transmission, also being incredibly reliable and still working and shifting like new even after 300.000km, if taken good care of course.
Additional I also had quite a bit of an accident some time ago, especially damaging the front of the car. But even that the engine took absolutely no damage from and still runs just like on the frost day.
So overall, I'm really really happy with the general reliability, since the car pretty hasn't caused me any pain or inconvenience at all. It almost seems indestructible and unstoppable at this point, while not requiring any special or unreasonable care.
In conclusion, I think, this does absolutely work as a car you keep for a lifetime.
This all, of course, being my personal experience.
Ok you pretty much covered me. Thanks man
Did you have any issues with the engine so far?
The car has about 280.000km on the clock now (about 200k at the time of the video), and the only thing that ever occured, just recently, was the ignition coil of one cylinder malfunctioning from time to time. That's of course a pretty easy fix and nothing too engine specific. Apart from that I never had any problems with it, reliably going from germany to the north cape every year. I think it's just really important to get one that has been treated properly and that you also keep some things in mind.
Never put significant load on it when the oil isn't 100% warm, proper engine oil (especially in the winter), no short distance drives, no fuel with high ethanol percentage and of course some general maintenance. When taken some care of, this is very reliable engine. The good thing also is, that you have no turbo to worry about.
I own a 2014 E350 Coupe with the direct injection 3.5 v6. I live stateside and the car now has 130,000 miles on it, never had any issues. The engine and transmission has been flawless for me. Just keep up with the maintenance and you're good.
what is your average consumption on the highway and through the city?😃
On the highway it heavily depends on the the speed of course, which is rather variable here in germany. I think a good estimation, when going steady, is: 80km/h - 6l/100km; 120 km/h - 7l/100km; 160km/h - 10l/km; 200 km/h - 13l/100km and when flooring it into the limiter at about 255km/h you usually end up at roughly 19l/100km. All in all, considering the size of that engine, pretty good for highway driving and highway speeds, even when going faster. Thats what that car and the engine are made for. What they are not necessarily made for is city driving and stop and go traffic. Apart from killing your engine in the long run it's almost impossible and achieve a consumption below 12l/100km, I'd say on average it's at about 13l/100km in typical city driving conditions, which isn't too great. But overall, apart from city driving, consumption is pretty decent for such a car and such an engine, mainly thanks to it using direct injection in the 292HP version.
@@FrejrNA thank you very much for the good answer.
Will never understand why U.S. versions of pre-2012 E350's didn't get this direct-injected version of the M272 3.5L V6.
The ~270hp C350s and E350s of late 2000s/early 2010s that we got were simply down on power versus Audi & BMW forced induction 3.0Ls as well as Japanese 3.5L V6s at that time.
Here in germany most 350's were available with both the direct injected and manifold injected version of the M272. The 4Matic models are an exception, these were never built with the direct injected M272 pre 2012. In 2012 they got the, always direct injected, M276, but that's probably the same for you in the U.S. The E-Class Coupé though was never available with the manifold injected M272, not even when it started in 2009.
I've driven the manifold injected 3.5L M272 with 272Hp in a W204 C-Class, and I agree. Power delivery is quite different and the less low down torque is noticable. But the biggest plus of the direct injected version really is the fuel consumption in my opinion. On average with normal driving it already is about 25% lower, but when going very fast consistently over longer distances like we usually do here in germany, let's say at about 210 km/h, the direct injected version ends up at about 12l/100km while the manifold injected one easily jumps over 20l/100km no problem. That's a huge difference and especially on the Autobahn it gets expensive at some point.
I also find interesting that the direct injected version doesn't sound any worse or less "gasoline like" than the manifold injected one, which sometimes really is a thing.
@@FrejrNA Unfortunately he direct injected version has a pretty bad reputation for reliability
well bro i have the same one. its really fast for that engine and power, but i would say this video is on speed x1.2 or it was maybe downhill a little bit. because however you start, it can beat under 6.1 sec 0-100 and 100-200 in 14 sec. hmmm, i would say 15.5.. btw i dont want to say that you lie or something.. its not a big difference, but still gear change is faster then in my e350.. i have all services (always oil change at 12.000km), Gearbox works well, it doesnt have 300.000km or something like that.. so i would try to beat that 6.1 sec. Nice video 🔥
Well, I can only assure you that the video isn't sped up. The section where I did this is pretty even too, but I can't say for sure that there isn't a slight descent overall. You're not the first one pointing out the "faster than usual" gearchange, which makes me curious why that is, although I know for sure the transmission in mine is stock and all the the 7G-Tronics I know from that era in other models I've driven here in germany have exactly this kind and speed of gearchange, certainly not slower than here in the video.
When looking at other videos, this one ( th-cam.com/video/HbKBy3p2tc4/w-d-xo.html ) of an E350 CDI for example, the gearchange also seems to be pretty much identically fast compared to mine here. But I still wonder why so many people seem to have slower gearchanges, which I only know from the very first version of the 7G-Tronic, which shouldn't be installed in these cars.
@@FrejrNA to be honest, i dont look at speedometer when i accelerate.. 😂 so i cant say 100%
@@FrejrNA btw nvm, still a good video.. do you have Instagram maybe? Im curious how its look
Is this turbocharged , how well does it respond to a remap!
It's not turbocharged. Just a 3,5l naturally aspirated V6. There aren't too many options for remaps out there, and I think most of them hurt the pretty good reliability and durability of the engine more than they actually increase power or reduce fuel consumption.
Do you still have an e350 or did you sell it
I still have this one actually. Let's say it has proven itself over all the other cars. Running extremely well, still going on crazy trips with it and even been through a pretty harsh accident.
What mods did you put in it
@@Avnar-w6u None, it's stock.
This sounds exactly like the m135i bmw ngl.
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