Pre-Glitch Grind Winners Finals - KEN (Sonic) Vs. Kameme (Sora) Smash Ultimate Tournament

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  • @ZacIRL
    @ZacIRL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    You don't know how many hours I sank into that boss fight on PS2 in 2006....

    • @JohnAbdielgonzalez-bl4xl
      @JohnAbdielgonzalez-bl4xl 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My god I thought I was the only one 😢😢😢🎉🎉🎉 omg you get it

    • @alltefe
      @alltefe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnAbdielgonzalez-bl4xl bro, its sephiroth... no, you r not the only one who suffered to him

    • @BennyBlancoATL
      @BennyBlancoATL 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yo you ain't lying ....I prolly spent just as much time on the rest of the actual game ..no shit

  • @JoshWunderlich
    @JoshWunderlich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I want Nomura-level canon explanations for why Sora and Sephiroth are fighting to the death in some poor villager's town in the Animal Crossing universe

    • @lilsp2647
      @lilsp2647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      He forgot to add a sephiroth boss fight in kh3 so he said this would suffice instead

    • @linakorig9
      @linakorig9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's probably another part of Quadratum, you just watched the secret boss of KH IV XD

    • @xzxx1xzx
      @xzxx1xzx ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Darkness

    • @ハワスムスタファ
      @ハワスムスタファ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "Good cove'gh'age"

  • @ExileOfSand
    @ExileOfSand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Kameme's just pure fundamentals with Sora is beautiful, you can tell he hasn't fully optimized his combo routes yet and was dropping some nair timings. Damn imagine when he gets it all locked down!!

    • @WeaponExX
      @WeaponExX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sora is so nuanced…it isn’t easy….the nair has like three different hit boxes depending on which one hits changes what kind of combo you can even get.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WeaponExX Sora's nair 1, the singular most needlessly convoluted hitbox of the whole game.

    • @WeaponExX
      @WeaponExX ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@N12015 i spent like 3 days trying to get this trick. I can only do the first part now. Idk how to double jump buffer

  • @houstonwelch4253
    @houstonwelch4253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    For anyone wondering, Sephiroth is one of Sora’s worst matchups. Sora struggles to get in against Seph. But Kameme made it look very even.

    • @EliMfGen
      @EliMfGen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      it's actually not that bad of a matchup. Sora can use projectiles to create a path and Seph has trouble getting around freezaga especially

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@EliMfGen Sora's projectiles are super laggy and Seph easily out ranges blizz

    • @EliMfGen
      @EliMfGen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Substantial-hf1rm it's purely for spacing. and they're no more laggy than any of Sephiroth's ranged options. If soras play patiently then sephiroth's have trouble approaching. also Sephiroth dies from Sora's kill confirms early if you combo into up air, up b, or up smash since he's so light. that and sephiroth has more trouble getting off ledge against sora than people like to admit. As a sora main I love going up against sephiroths in bracket

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@EliMfGen I'm gonna have to disagree, Seph have a much easier time playing patient with his tilts and aerials zoning Sora out forcing him to commit to an approach. The range you wanna be in for Sora to use spells is the range Seph thrives in, and while Seph can out range at anytime Sora is gonna need to cycle through Thundaga because as a fellow Sora main you know that spell is garbage in neutral against good players.
      The most volatile part of the match up is Sora's counter shutting down octo slash on recovery, but it goes both ways because Seph's fair, bair, up air, down air spikes, and very own counter are annoyingly easy to land on Sora's slow floaty recovery.

    • @keyonfletcher5488
      @keyonfletcher5488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      True, sephiroth actually does body sora. Kameme is dope

  • @juliangarcia6824
    @juliangarcia6824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It felt like sora was losing the whole set but still won in the end!

    • @SadDragonHours
      @SadDragonHours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Plot armor

    • @TheTrueKlotzkopf
      @TheTrueKlotzkopf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spoiler. Rip.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First. Thank for the spoiler... Second, sounded like Kingdom Hearth to me, and a big reason why people play Smash Bros. to begin with.

  • @olumel_spl821
    @olumel_spl821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    23:40の復帰が好きすぎて永久に見てられる

  • @DistantKingdom
    @DistantKingdom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    his sora is cracked!

  • @supermike929
    @supermike929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "knocks you out of your own move, hits you, then you die". i love this

  • @ariesmith2594
    @ariesmith2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Me: Turns up volume*
    Future me: Mutes volume*

  • @SunGodNikaJoyBoy
    @SunGodNikaJoyBoy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great game from the both of them. I really thought Ken could've got away with spamming more smash attacks with Sephiroth because of how much safer they get during his Wing. Sora doesn't have the range to properly respond to super-armored smash attacks.

  • @rasamasala
    @rasamasala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good match. I think Ken could have mixed it up more on game 5. He started resorting to back airs which Sora was shield. And the tide of the battle was Sora pushing Sephiroth from each side of the stage.
    I think if Ken included more shadow flares into his mix ups, it would have atleast help push neutral into his favor a bit more

  • @danielw.2456
    @danielw.2456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Great game. Very grounded Sora.

    • @a5tr4l
      @a5tr4l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ironic since he’s such an aerial character

    • @danielw.2456
      @danielw.2456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@a5tr4l Lol, i see what you did there.

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:18 crazy ass off the stage counter Sora did. 7:09 7:32 I love how kameme keeps stalling the ultra flare move at the edge

  • @肩甲骨クラッシャー
    @肩甲骨クラッシャー 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    ミェンミェン バナム
    スティーブ あcola
    セフィロス KEN
    ホムヒカ しゅーとん
    カズヤ てぃー
    ソラ かめめ
    DLC2強すぎる、、

    • @おきた-h3f
      @おきた-h3f 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tugushiro_ 草

    • @falel4804
      @falel4804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tugushiro_ Leoもだろ笑笑

    • @youtober9329
      @youtober9329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@falel4804 草

    • @インフル-t2m
      @インフル-t2m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tugushiro_ 知ってるか?キャラパワーに多少頼ってても勝った方が強いんやで

    • @真っ黒gg
      @真っ黒gg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tugushiro_ 海外の上位勢だってDLC普通に使うし、勝つために堅実に立ち回っているプレイも学べる事多いはずなんだけどね。流石逆VIP様の言う事は一味違うなぁ

  • @ABAgamer_
    @ABAgamer_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just like the simulations!
    And by simulations, I mean the Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 Sephiroth boss fights.

  • @su9cp
    @su9cp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is this a Nairo vs Nakat reference?

  • @ULTIMAFAX
    @ULTIMAFAX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:41 I understood that reference

  • @TrevTheGinger
    @TrevTheGinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the commentator sounds like superkai64 geez

  • @Furnive
    @Furnive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like this match, great game!

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    9:07 just beautiful

  • @dakripaez1254
    @dakripaez1254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kameme such a master hero comeback, he unlocked ultrainstinct

  • @SuperMarioT
    @SuperMarioT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy fuck, Kameme's cracked w/ Sora, same fo Ken w/ Seph

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:18 crazy ass off the stage counter

  • @ashketchup7354
    @ashketchup7354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Impressive Sora! I no longer miss Kameme Rockman.

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Rockman being changed to MegaMan is one of the few times I think a localized name is better than the original

    • @brumbpotungusstreams5814
      @brumbpotungusstreams5814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Speak for yourself, I really miss Kamega Man

    • @videosofdeath99
      @videosofdeath99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Substantial-hf1rm but you lost the pun of rock man and his sister roll, rock and roll

    • @mamotalemankoe3775
      @mamotalemankoe3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brumbpotungusstreams5814 Same here man, same here.

  • @gabutman6144
    @gabutman6144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a very fun matchup

  • @Arc_TheAirPirate
    @Arc_TheAirPirate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haven't watched yet, but I want them both to win, hate that there can be only one, want to see more Sora and Sephi success!!

  • @andruyet2509
    @andruyet2509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg Sora vs Sephiroth in KH II is canon

    • @ralphdary7050
      @ralphdary7050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On Hollow Bastion too

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:15 that dodge tho

  • @darkdraconis
    @darkdraconis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's like the commentators lifes depend on kameme to win but they can't make it obvious

  • @orlandorodriguez8270
    @orlandorodriguez8270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know the commentators names?

  • @alistairestamo1633
    @alistairestamo1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    KH2 but PvP mode.

  • @UmbraStarWolf
    @UmbraStarWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ken literally just f tilt and baired and people say Seph sucks

  • @protonjones54
    @protonjones54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Actual gremlin commentator

  • @nexalord4059
    @nexalord4059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A.crossover inside another crossover...?

  • @bonni4493
    @bonni4493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great gameplay from both players! Ken's Seph is so good! But he could of down aired that Sora several times though. Sora should struggle to come back to the stage vs Seph.

    • @MinKiu410
      @MinKiu410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I believe if it was Nairo, he would d-air the hell outa Kameme

    • @bonni4493
      @bonni4493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MinKiu410 Yeah Nairo is really good in that matchup. Down air and counter are deadly on Sora's recovery.

  • @TheMari0123
    @TheMari0123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had to mute the video 😒

  • @denzelwright8475
    @denzelwright8475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll be honest, maybe Kameme didn't want to be seen doing bitch moves, but god gave Sora a counter. Its okay to use it to punish that long ass sword of Sephiroth's. If he wants spacing, let him suffer for it.

  • @goldenboy_808
    @goldenboy_808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LETS GO SORA

  • @yuumizoomies
    @yuumizoomies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:45 among us hehe :3

    • @byatch_
      @byatch_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      heh i was looking for that comment

  • @Haurent
    @Haurent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's almost like Sora's pretty good and Kameme is even better

  • @stephensantiago5581
    @stephensantiago5581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    -Sephiroth kills by f-tilting at the edge
    -Me: he can't keep getting away with this!!

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2 low to mid tier characters that are fan favorites. I like how sakurai and his stupid team fucked up fan favoritrs like Banjo, Seph and Sora. I think Steve was created the same way(maaaybe) but since they dont test shit, steve was lucky

    • @bonni4493
      @bonni4493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I know right? Like why are the corniest characters the best in this game? We want the cool characters to be busted lol!

    • @mando76m
      @mando76m ปีที่แล้ว

      Wym low to mid? Sora is high A and Sephiroth is low S

    • @Azurald55
      @Azurald55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mando76mSephiroth is not S tier 😂

  • @su9cp
    @su9cp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    She can’t pronounce the R

    • @skritzo
      @skritzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      uwuu

  • @renamamiya2279
    @renamamiya2279 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have trauma from Sephiroth on KH 1 & 2. ;-;

  • @timothymartin4433
    @timothymartin4433 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dis match was witawy cwazy

  • @JSS0822
    @JSS0822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even matchup

  • @thebasquez
    @thebasquez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For anyone wondering, Sora is the best character and he has no bad match ups. Get good.

  • @Kowalskinator
    @Kowalskinator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that aint sonic

  • @marlonlam6959
    @marlonlam6959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going sonic was a big mistake. Ken seph is god mode. Fuck a matchup

    • @isaacr8250
      @isaacr8250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He had the lead. Plus they went 2 and 2 in that matchuo

  • @zidemelee
    @zidemelee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have to mute this to watch

  • @魔王いっちゃん
    @魔王いっちゃん 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    裏ボス戦で草

  • @MartuMishima
    @MartuMishima ปีที่แล้ว

    Kameme is cooking

  • @Arc_TheAirPirate
    @Arc_TheAirPirate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Woah, this female commentator is absolutely on fire with her game knowledge, clear speed of delivery and situational awareness! Certainly more "hype" commentators out there, but I think she may honestly be my new favourite!! Could someone furnish me with a name? I'll look her up for more!

  • @DaveEntity
    @DaveEntity 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ken is so bad with sephiroth

  • @deadpoolinthehouse
    @deadpoolinthehouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why would they let someone with a speech impediment be a announcer? I say this as someone who grew up not being able to pronounce "r" and "sh". You can learn.

    • @tyhuetter5431
      @tyhuetter5431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I understand where you're coming from a little bit, but some people cannot learn it due to misformation of their mouths and/or tongue. If you look it up, it is called a rhoticism, and it is very common. Many people cannot help it. If you really have that much of an issue with her, than you should also have an issue with anyone that has an accent different than American, because they also do not pronounce English in a "correct" way.

    • @paxing1281
      @paxing1281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can still understand what she is saying.
      Personally I like hearing her.

    • @peterpotts7482
      @peterpotts7482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're a weirdo for caring.

  • @Catholic_skald
    @Catholic_skald 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Who thought it was a good idea to have a speech impaired person as a commentator??

    • @KingKabisi
      @KingKabisi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a local so it's not that bad, but if we got em on gran finals or top 8/16 then there's an issue

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hate to break it to you guys, but she will absolutely be commentating sets in the top brackets

    • @WoahSoSa
      @WoahSoSa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think it’s pretty dope

    • @christianokoye9491
      @christianokoye9491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can understand her pretty well, but you know, I understand English.

    • @Ethan-nl2wg
      @Ethan-nl2wg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Idk I think it’s pretty cool, and it’s not like you couldn’t understand any of her words, I understood everything she said

  • @FammAim
    @FammAim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Square Soft

  • @Combatgeek001
    @Combatgeek001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    commentator annoying asf

    • @10XSeiga
      @10XSeiga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hiring a commentator with a speech impediment is like hiring a blind person to critique a movie.

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not 666 likes

  • @隕石を見つけた木村拓哉
    @隕石を見つけた木村拓哉 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love SORA

  • @mochaman29
    @mochaman29 ปีที่แล้ว

    That womans accent is simultaniously infuriating and satisfying

  • @牧瀬紅莉栖-j1o
    @牧瀬紅莉栖-j1o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    かめめとKENって仲悪いんだな

    • @ヨクバリス-r8x
      @ヨクバリス-r8x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      宅オフメンバーなのに不仲疑惑は草

  • @Eddycut
    @Eddycut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why can't I change resolution it's been an hour