From watching his stuff for the long term, I love his "always learning, always a student" mentality. I feel like just because of that, any other quirks he may or may not have are excusable. When I can do it, im definitely going to take some of his classes. Im broke right now but I wont be forever!
Bro, I have a good job but, I'm NOT rich. I have a family, two boys and a wife. I have a house and cars to pay for. I don't have to scrape together a couple hundred bucks for a pistol but, I need to justify the cost. I can justify spending a couple hundred bucks on a weapon I KNOW will work and better yet last. You help me make that choice and for that, I am so grateful. THANK YOU, keep up the great work.
William Howland Your comment could’ve been written by me. I agree with all you’ve said. I personally don’t see the point of paying $500-$1200 for a weapon just for a name if there are equally reliable ones out there for less.
I own and love my Taurus G2C. I have 5200 rounds through mine now. At 1500 rounds at cleaning I noticed that my recoil rod and spring had a slight bend to it. NOTE IT DID NOT BREAK OR FAIL. So being me I replaced it. I still have OEM as back up. I would put my life on this firearm. In fact 3 weeks and 5 days ago it saved my life. This fire arm is exceptional. I would stack it up against any other fire arm out there. Plus the G2C works with sig saur p226 9mm mags. Canik 20 Rd mags MEC Gar 9 mm clips ProMag 15rd 18rd 32 Rd mags Taurus made 9mm mags. Wow that's a lot of different magazine possiblities.
Restrike capability is also faster than tap/rack. Both work but pressing the trigger again to utilize restrike vs tap/rack; restrike capability to fire off a round when at first it won't go bang,will save someone's life,one day. Just a thought. Great gun at a great price.
I love my G2C, put about 800 rounds through it stock, and 1200 through it after the lakeline LLC stainless guide rod, recoil spring, and the stainless striker guide. The trigger reset is sweet by the way. I talked the gun manager at the local shop into trying it and he said the reset is as good as his sig's that he owns.
Thank you for all the effort involved in this entire testing series. Not only a noble cause, but a realistic cause. Don’t let them twist your words, you’re the only guy I’ve seen even offer payment options for your training, which DOES help out those struggling with finances. What you’re doing is a good thing and there are a lot of us who appreciate all of it!
I’ve had 2 of these and also 2 709 slim I honestly couldn’t tell you how many rounds I put through the first one and your right I wanted to get my CHL and refused to carry a hipoint and my wife and I had just bought a house and had a 1 year old so the Pt111 g2 was the best option for me at that time and I just recently was able to buy my first Glock 19.... I’m glad to see you giving Taurus a fair shot
Jeff Kinder I disagree mine was after the extractor change date and then even got another extractor from Taurus and still sucked ass . FTE 1/50 rounds . Doesn’t pass a carry test no where near .
austin eubnks That sucks man. My best friend carries a 709 slim, and we’ve put over a thousand rounds through it with about as many failures as my Glock. I’m not saying it’s a Glock by any means, but it’s a hell of a lot better than a hipoint for almost the same price.
I have a hi-point .45, thing is just terrible in every metric. It's a nightstand gun with one in the chamber now, because it'll go bang at least once. Now after that...lady luck will decide. In one range session last time I took it out, I had 11 failures in 100 rounds. FTE/FTF/double feed, you name it. I bought a G2 after that. In 700 rounds so far I've had no issues, and that's in four range sessions shooting various kinds of ammo, all the way down to crappy range ammo. It's my EDC, and I do trust it to get 13 shots off just as fast I can acquire the target and pull the trigger. That's another strong point - 12+1 capacity. Even my friend's VP only carries 10+1. It makes the gun a little heavier, but I'll take 13 rounds if I can, thanks. It would take a special gun to take the Taurus' place on my side, as I've tried out Glock, M&P, Beretta, XD, Kimber carry, etc. The only gun I would take today over my G2 as EDC is the VP9, and that gun is over 3 times the price.
James I bought my g2 with the sole purpose of seeing how many rounds it could fire without being cleaned. I am currently at 2300 rounds without being cleaned with zero malfunctions.
Last year I bought a new Taurus PT111 G2 because the reviews were so good. From previous experience with Taurus semi-autos I was expecting a failure right away. After 1,200 leisurely rounds through it, still no failure. I did sell it, but kind of wish I still had it. It just worked. I am looking forward to this test.
Hey James, I work on people's shit. The only problem I have witnessed with G2Cs so far is the fact that the rear sight is held on by a single screw; which seems to have a slight tendancy to back out and fall off. Also it is basically only held by that screw so I've seen people lose their sights. So all I'd really say is get a bottle of low heat loctite. That said, this is relatively few. I've sold probably something like 400 or 500 of them, I think my rate of this problem coming in has been like 1% roughly. Sorry, haven't kept a perfect count. But it's definitely less than 10. I have NOT seen any problems with the guiderod on this one personally, but I also haven't personally shot it up either. If you give a shit, great, if not, great. Just figured I'd drop the heads up on what I've seen.
Yeah I noticed that on mine that I just purchased. Put 200 rounds through it and took it apart to clean, I noticed the screw and gave it a little tightening. Good advice on the loctite though thanks!
I love how you say it’s a great gun for those on little income. I bought this gun and have about 2,000 rounds through it and I carry it every day. I have student debt and I’m about to get married and move out with my soon to be wife. We are gonna be on a lower income and saving for rent and car payments and other such stuff. I bought this gun because of its price point and for the price it is an INCREDIBLY pistol
I just bought my G2c last week and am glad you're doing this torture test. As soon as my shoulder heals (rotator cuff surgery) and my knee and foot heal, I'll give you my feedback on running rounds through it. Thanks as always James!
I have a millennium G2c and I have a little over 500 rounds through it with out any failures. I am a man in need of a budget option that I can count on. I purchased an excellent holster from Minutemen concealment I love it carry it every day. Thank you for doing this. I don't take it as a slight at all.
I own G2C and love it got 1000 rounds Through mine no failures of any kind Super short reset awesome trigger Holds 12 rounds it's small is just like a Glock that holds more rounds and is just as good if not better. It's not a budget gun it's a great gun.Thanks for the awesome video
I had the generation before this G2 model, and it had problems from the first mag. The recoil spring had a catastrophic failure under 50 rounds. I didn't even make it out of the complimentary 50 round box of 124gr Blazer brass the dealer through in. That being said, I sent it back to Taurus, paid 27.95 for shipping (bs), and it seems to be alright.
I got a new in box g2c and out of the box it has been flawless. Granted I have not put many rounds down the chamber yet but from past experience I am thinking this is a great gun, for the features and the cost. I wanted a back up to my other 9mm but it's becoming my favorite.
I have been carrying this gun for 4 years, I have over 1200 rounds through it. I have Glocks, sigs, Smith and Wesson but I carry this one. I teach ccw classes in Illinois and bought one to let students use and it has also been flawless with over 2000 rounds. Mecgar Sig 226 mags work very well in this gun. I have 13 rounds in the gun with 18 as backup. Definitely the best gun for the money and for me my favorite carry gun period. Keep up the good work, producing great videos.
@@mustanglx2 It has been just reliable, I like the grip and size the capacity. I think it looks good and most of all if use it in a self defense scenario I'm not out $500-$1000.
@@sr9man32 if ya ever have a real self defense scenario the price of the pistol involved will be your last consideration however in the event of theft I completely understand. Good gun glad ya like it brother😎
@@mustanglx2 It will be the last thing that I'm thinking about in that moment, but when all is said and done, I will have to replace it. Reliability comes first, if I hadn't found this gun I would still be carrying my glock. This has been just as reliable and I can buy two and some ammo for the price of the glock. Thank you, do you own one as well?
@@sr9man32 sure do(bought as a back up gun and price is great) only about 400 rounds through it has ran good and trigger kinda shocked me for the price. I personally still carry either my g26 or g17 but i dig em
I just picked up one of these G2c's yesterday (5-4-19) and I can not wait to get to the range tomorrow with it. Gonna start with 100 rounds of Armscor 115 grain fmj, followed by a cleaning and 100 rounds of Remington Umc JHP 115 grain as my opening test. I have no doubt it will eat every bit of this ammo and more. Thanks a bunch James for this, really helps out when you are shopping on a budget.
Just got one of these as my first gun for around the house. Gotta day it feels pretty good, not too heavy, not too much recoil, holds 10+1 came with 2 clips and all for just $250 you can’t beat that !
Ive put about 5000 rounds though my gtc and it is awsome. Still have the origianal spring. I really like Taurus i also have a PT92 made in 1994 and it is the most accurate hand gun i own.
I load ammunition for a company that also has a store front and a pistol range. We've sold a few dozen G2Cs with zero returns or complaints. Our G2C demo gun has yet to have any parts breakage and minimal failures but I've no idea how many rounds have been shot through it. I'm very curious to see how these little guns do in your test.
@@NOT-FINANCIAL-ADVICE. not sure I understand your question. Im curious how they do in his testing and evaluation. I don't have the knowledge, opportunity or the access to the facilities required to have several different people using different examples of the same gun in a properly run, high stress training environment.
I subbed to your channel for two reasons one because I’m getting this gun in a few days and I love your honesty about it and two because I’m actually disabled from a failed back surgery and it has just about ruined my life but I get by. I hate being on ssi but I started working when I was 15 and worked up until I was 35 when I needed back surgery because of an accident and the surgeon ruined my spine. And I will never be able to work again. But I need an affordable firearm to defend myself with and this gun is the exact one I found and will be getting this Monday. And you seem to actually care about people in my situation and I appreciate that. Thanks for the honest review and I feel real good about getting this particular firearm.
@first class junkie not sure the cleaning part is really that important either. I've had problems with that crap winchester forged stuff which my shield eats fine but otherwise no problems even after non cleaning after 300+ rds. I lost count but I easily have more than 500rds through this, maybe closer to 1k. I think the shield is a better made pistol and stainless and maybe slightly less picky than this pistol. Expensive stuff I like HK hammer fired with lem trigger.
Did you do the stainless steel guide rod upgrade?? That's the main issue I used to see people talk about... But the stainless upgrade is only like $30 if I remember right.
I’m 21 and my wife’s 25 we have a kid that’s 10 months old I’ve owned several handguns form glocks to sigs to m&p but I’ve had to sell everything to keep our heads above water. I bought two g2c for me and my wife between both guns we have about 7000 rounds through them the only problem we have had between the guns was a bad primer in some old blazer ammo that didn’t want to go bang on the first trigger pull but restrike ability fixed that problem we have ran the guns in hot humid conditions to -10 conditions we have ran then dry and lubricanted they have ate steel cased ammo to aluminum for the $200 to $250 range I feel completely confident that our g2cs will run if are life’s depends on it the only complaint I can really think of is the aftermarket options for the gun but I understand it takes time.
I had one of the older model PT111 G2s and it was a great pistol... I never had a failure with it but the older model did have a lot of take up in the trigger pull but after training with it for awhile you get used to it. But they are amazing pistols for the price you can’t beat them.
I have a G2C with about 700 rds through it. Its my under the mattress/Hiking backpack gun. Concealment Express makes a great IWB Holster for it also Looking forward to seeing your class results
I’ve had one I bought used, showed clear signs of serious wear. Pt111 g2, NOT the G2C I’ve shot probably 1500 rounds out of it over the last year. Only issue I ever had was 1 of my magazines would fall out occasionally. Tested which one was the issue, marked it and called Taurus with the issue. No questions asked they sent me one within a week. I was very impressed considering it was a used pistol. New magazine has no issues. Very happy overall with the pistol.
I have almost 3500 rounds through mine with no issues. I did change the recoil spring after about 1000 rounds not because something broke But because I heard that sometimes the springs go out. I used the lakeline LLC spring assembly.
Taurus may not be admitting to a recoil spring issue. There was an issue maybe a couple years ago with what appeared to be a vendor issue. The springs reportedly were not ground flat and some walked off the guide rod. Sight options at Lakeline llc, and Alien Gear has good holsters for the G2/G2C.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I believe what you said about the recoil spring James. Don't know if the departments at Taurus have a communications issue. I did have an issue with Lakeline's stainless replacement assembly. The head on theirs is slightly larger on the barrel lug end. It wouldn't go into battery if it wasn't perfectly centered. Had to reduce it to Taurus' factory dimension.
Yeager, great stuff here. I'm a father of four who bought one when I made less than 30k a year. My income has increased by more than triple and now I've bought the G2C for a few young families to have and invited them out to train with it. Thousands of rounds through five different G2Cs without a hiccup so far. IMHO, the best first gun a person could have if it fits their hand.
James, I had never liked Taurus in the past, but I am looking forward to the results of the test. As to the sights, maybe one of our favorite sight companies will step up.
I have 500+ through mine and ZERO issues. 5 different types of ammo. 4 cheapo brands and some fort Scott TUI rounds. Straight from the box with no lube or cleaning until after this last time at the range. Flawless cycling every time. So far, it gets my thumbs up. Wife shoots it pretty well too. She has zero experience coming into this firearm. Love it
One of the points that sold me on the original PT111 G2 was the perfect fit in my hands, and the wife's, as well. I like 1911s, but I've never been comfortable with their large grip. The G2C I now own fits my hands like a custom, it's one of the most naturally pointing pistols I've ever laid my hands on. I shoot it better than any other pistol I've used. Cabela's sells mags for these pistols, and lower than some online sellers.
I agree on the grip fitting well. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks it fits like it was custom tailored for MY hand. Taurus really stepped up and set the bar higher with this firearm in the ~$200 range. I’m left handed, so finding a handgun off the shelf that feels good and is easy to operate is a pain. I’m officially a fanboy on this specific model.
James, keep up the good work friend. I know everyone says the recoil springs are bad, but my wife and I have had ours for 7 months. We put 300 rounds through them every Saturday since we bought them. No issues, no problems at all. We dont shoot steel or aluminum casings but we love our g2c's. I even shot mine at a local 3 gun shoot for a charity back around Christmas. The sights are great, the grip is wonderful. Taurus out dis themselves this time. And with my we the people iwb holster, I carry it everywhere
My local Rural King had them on Special this week at 179 with a 25 dollar rebate from Taurus. I went three different times and the last one sold just before I got in line today. I went to my local Dunham's and not only did they match it (with rebate) I got the stainless steel top. Looking forward to range time.
I have a PT111 G2 Millennium that I’ve owned for over 2 years. My pistol is the generation previous to the G2C but there were only very minor changes in the latest version so I consider this comment pertinent. I use this gun to carry hunting, fishing and as a truck gun. My pistol has fired at least 1,000 rounds. It is the solid black version. I have added Trijicon tritium night sights purchased through Lakeline LLC and they were easy to install and are windage adjustable. I really like this pistol! It is not as accurate as some my higher priced pistols with match grade barrels but is still very accurate. My pistol likes better quality ammunition in 124 grain or higher in a fairly hot load. It does not like 115 grain bullets nearly as well. I shoot the 124 grain Speer Lawman and it always performs flawlessly. I ordered a SS replacement guide rod in the factory weight and the pistol did not perform well so I went back to the plastic factory guide rod. I paid $209 plus tax at a local gun shop. I will list Pros and Cons below. Pros: Price, reliability, descent accuracy for the intended purpose, it is easily concealable, well constructed for a pistol in this price range, large magazine capacity at 12 rounds in a fairly thin double stack magazine, reasonably comfortable to shoot at up to 100 rounds at the range, adjustable OEM rear sight for both windage and elevation, large trigger well (gloved hands fit with no issue), good ergonomics (with one exception I will list below), very tactile external safety both on and off, crisp trigger break with a short reset, came with 2 high quality anti-friction 12 round magazines, magazines seat and eject outstandingly, fairly low bore axis, nicely polished feed ramp Cons: Plastic sights and plastic guide rod from factory, finish will eventually show wear on the slide if holstered in a kydex holster (but so does the Kimpro finish on a much higher priced Kimber pistol I own), the undercut for the grip under the trigger guard is not cut high enough so it tends to be uncomfortable on the middle finger of the dominate hand when shooting 100 plus rounds for me (I don’t shoot with gloves, I live in GA and it is just too hot), fairly snappy felt recoil with the hotter rounds but you expect that with a 3.2” barrel, Overall, I consider this to be the best VALUE priced pistol on the market.
I am a 24 year old father. My fiance and I are not poor by any means, but for me and my family financially, this gun makes sense. It gets the job done, and for a $200 expense this gun gives me and my family the protection we are entitled to by our creator.
I’ve watched mr Yeager for years now, and he does care. He wants everyone to be safe and be able to protect yourself poor or rich. Can’t wait to see the results
the G2C was/is my first pistol, i got it after watching many reviews on youtube. i will admit freely that a huge factor was the price, $218 after tax, but everyone of the videos i watched had great feedback. i got mine, went out bought 200 rounds and headed for the closest range. the trigger has a long pull compared to the others ive shot, it took a bit to get use to and i still am. i got 90 rounds through before i had my first fail to feed, i did take the gun from the box and went right to shooting it didnt take it apart or anything. so the gun failed to feed, pulled the slid back cleared the round feed the next, fired and then failed to feed again. on my 94th round the gun completely jammed the slide would not move it was 3/4 the way open and i could not move the slide at all. i contacted taurus, they have a life time warranty on their firearms, i get the shipping label emailed to me and send it out. 2 weeks its with them, they ended up replacing basicly everything except the barrel inside the gun. since that ive had 600 rounds with zero issues from the gun, i still need some more practice. for the price for a first time budget minded person looking for a gun id recommend it even with what happen, the company took quick care of me and i had my gun back quick. i would like to upgrade the sights down the road but the ones it comes with the rear are adjustable. the texture on the grip is great its grippy but doesnt feel rough on your hand even after firing 200 rounds. take apart is very simple making cleaning a breeze.
It will be interesting to see how this test goes. I have an older PT111 and have quite a few rounds through it. I've had students in my classes using the newer Taurus and none of them have had any issues with it either.
I have the PT111 and the G2C and the P365. They all have their place in my carry rotation. Love the way show how to pick out the folks that don't know guns but offer an opinion. I shoot mine. I am hard on them. And all three are still running. My Taurus's run the same as my P365. Keep up the informative work an informed consumer is an educated buyer. Taurus has a great product line in firearms at a very reasonable price.
The G2C is a perfect gift for a new ccw also. I bought this for my brother as soon as he got his license to conceal and I’ve been there for 1.5k-2k rounds of the 2.5k that’s been through it and I’ve not seen 1 malfunction. I even tried to get it to malfunction from poor grip to simulate a limp wrist malfunction and I couldn’t get it to do wrong. It took him over a thousand rounds to hit where he was aiming but once he got his technique down he can now cut the bullseye out of targets at 15 yards with the G2C. We’ve been using only +p ammo for the last 1500 rounds and counting. He’s got a much better edc now so we’re seeing how far the G2C will go on 124gr +P Speer gold dot.
I can’t wait to see the results of this test. I bought one recently and I don’t have very much ammo through it. Really glad that a big guntuber is paying attention to products like this. I’m it modest means and I would rather spend more money on ammo and less on guns.
Got a couple CZ's but really been looking at this gun for my wife and kid and as a good backup. Really appreciate you testing these out and giving your feedback through one of your gun fighting classes. Keep up the great work sir.
We have seen only one break due to a recoil spring assembly failure thus far. When it failed the slide was stuck open almost fully and would not close more than 1/4 of an inch. We took out the backplate and firing pin to make sure that was not catching on the sear. Best we can tell the recoil spring broke in half preventing the slide from closing, but it had to go back to the factory for service.
The example you gave of a newly wed couple is exactly why I bought my first Taurus. I had a carry gun but my wife did not. She picked out a 5 shot Taurus revolver. She carried it for years before deciding she wanted something else. I qualified and carried it as a backup gun when I worked armored car. I eventually sold it to a friend who needed an affordable gun.
I'm about a G3C because of how popular The G2C was in a positive all the reviews have been from reputable gun reviewers like yourself. I was able to buy a 1000 round case of 9mm ammo prependemic and anticipation of getting a G2C to carry but when the pandemic hit I got distracted trying to keep my business afloat and ended up waiting and luckily the G3C came out. I have 790 rounds through it and it has been flawless. I made sure yo clean it good when I first got it, lubed it really well to break it in properly and I've kept it clean and properly oiled. It runs so smooth and I couldn't have asked more from a gun especially one that cost that cost me $250.
As one of those old disabled guys on a fixed budget all I can say is well done. My G2C only has 300 rounds through it so I'm looking forward to your results. I bought it because of it's reputation and so far I love it. Also Lakeline and Tru Glo both have sights for the G2C.
I've had nothing but trouble with my PT111 G2. Had it since Oct 2017, only put about 300 rounds through it. Had several failure to extract. Two times I had cases get stuck in it and they had to be punched out with a dowel. Sucks cuz I want to love it, but I just can't. I hope those G2C's work better!
I'm very glad to see this test being done. I'd be very interested to see some tests with the G2C shooting a variety of hollow point ammunition. If it functions with jhp's, it will seem that Taurus has a winner! Bravo Mr. Yeager! You do good work.
I've owned mine for about 7 months. I have the Galloway precision Asmund trigger. (Love it) and put a ss recoil assembly love it as well. Anyway I've carried daily for this time.period. and have shot 3000 rounds s&w nato.rounds 124g +p not 1 failure to feed or failure to fire has occured. The sights are spot on from the box. My o ly issue is finish wears quickly but creosote is a cost effective option Great gun. Loved it so much in the 9mm I bought it in .40 as well 500 rounds through it no issues first day never missed a beat . Bone stock. Had to move sight slightly but that's it another great Taurus pistol
Rocked the original Pt111 pro for almost 4 years. Ran roughly 3000 rounds through with only 3 malfunctions. 2 were due to improperlyreloaded ammunition so cases bulges in chamber. The third was a ftf, but was due to a broken mag spring. I gifted that pistol to a friend of mine, and he hasn't had a problem yet. I currently have about 1100 rounds through my g2. No malfunctions as of yet. Only issue I had was the trigger would hang up a bit due to a bur on the trigger safety shoe. Once the bur was gone, trigger was good. And though it seems like I only shoot Taurus; ruger, beretta, sig, and Hk all grace my safe and are shot almost as frequently.
James, I just bought a G2c 3 weeks ago. I’ve put 300 rounds in it, and not a single problem. I also had a pt111 g2 millennium. Not a problem there either. I lived in Camden, now in Carroll county.
I've cycled 200 rounds through mine so far, and I bought it Black Friday of 2018. it's been solid so far. didnt clean it after the 2nd 50 rounds, and it hasn't had any issues at all. great gun for cheap so far. really enjoying it.
This is going to be interesting to see how things turn out. I recommend this gun and have no trigger time behind it. I never hear negative words about the Gen2. I have a friend who is strapped for cash. This is a gun I told him to get. I wish I had bought his Sig P229 that he sold to pay a bill. I would have given it right back to him. I'm looking forward to the upcoming videos and results.
Update from my comment on part 1 Have over 2000 through it now. Almost 900 in the last 3 weeks without cleaning it. (Was curious if it would have the same mag feed issue but it must have been gravel/muck from dropping it in the run and shoot) Action shoot last weekend and indoor range today. ZERO problems. Am now putting almost all rounds in the 8 ring or better under 25 yards. Once you get comfortable with the reset and sight picture this is a gem. No unusual wear noted. Just cleaned it. Barrel needed a little extra but all good otherwise. G19 still all alone in the safe...sorry Gaston. The bull is in the holster now.
Bought a G2C three weeks ago, have shot 200+ rounds through it, had problem with the first five rounds, failure to go into battery. Attributed to bad batch of (Armscor) ammo, switched to Federal and Tula and have had no problem. This thing shoots awesome
I have a G2C that I’ve fired between 800 and 1000 rounds. Not one single problem! Best $200 I have EVER spent. I did, at @ 400 rounds upgrade the striker guide with a stainless steel one to replace the factory red plastic one. I done this ONLY because I had heard that it helps take out the kinda gritty feel in the trigger between to end of the take up and the actual release of the striker. It absolutely makes it buttery smooth! $16.95 on lakelinellc.com I also, since it was just a little more, replaced the firing pin spring and return spring for $6.99. So, now for only @$25 plus shipping I made my already great little economy friendly EDC firearm even better! Love it! Keep the great content coming James! Love your channel brother.
After several videos about the same gun. You are the only one that doesn’t complaint about the trigger. I totally agree with you.👍👍Thank you for the awesome video.
I just watched your Taurus show and liked it. I have two Taurus .45's. I got a two tone one when the first came out and later found a PT 145 PRO and do I ever love the pro. I thought the trigger pull was a bit long on the first one, like shooting a revolver but the pro just had a little slack then to fire, don't cough because it will fire. I love it for target shooting and it is dead on. I have shot 45's since I was young, now retired. I really loved them in the jungle during my three tours with Army S.F. I guess mine are Gen 1's but they didn't call them that then I also have three Taurus Judges and three other snubbed. I guess I am a Taurus guy. Glad you mentioned the holster company because I have had a problem finding holsters for the early model autos. I have a 400 lumen OLight on that Pro. Love the fact that it is rechargeable. Thanks again and I look forward to seeing your future shows. Rick Bicknell.
I’ve had mine for less than a year and put over 500 rounds through it (all my friends thought it was cool that I had a gun so they all wanted to shoot it) and it’s run flawlessly. Some of the controls were a bit sticky at first but everything has worn in now. Hoping to get to 1000 by next year
I had a PT145 that I carried for years, I even shot IDPA with it for a while. It was my first compact handgun. I liked having 11 rounds of .45 ACP. It was also the only gun I’ve competed with that was 100% stock. A lot of that was lack of aftermarket support and the fact that I wasn’t big into modifying guns yet, because I didn’t know much about it. I always liked the Straight 8 sights that came on it. Not sure how many rounds I put through it, but I ran it fast in IDPA and it didn’t malfunction other than a couple of failure to fires, which could have been ammo. I got away from shooting it once I got more competitive in IDPA. I went to a Taurus PT1911 shooting CDP for a while, but to be fair I gutted the thing and replaced everything but the slide, frame and barrel. At this point of shooting competition other than GSSF I don’t have many guns that aren’t full of aftermarket parts. I run a M&P Pro 9mm now in SSP primarily. Nothing against Taurus, but they don’t have much aftermarket support...My M&P is more Apex than S&W at this point. I even went to an Apex barrel. The PT145 got stolen a few years back, I left it in my car in a safe cabled to the seat. Figured I’d always have a gun handy on the road that way...fuckers cut the cable and took the whole damn safe. I learned any safe in the car needs to be mounted.
I’m at around 900 rounds and I have not had any issues and my grouping is pretty tight now that I’m used to the long trigger pull. Great gun to beat up at the range with friends. I recommend a buy, I even went ahead and bought a we the people holster if I ever want to conceal carry. Almost as fun as my PMR30
Love the video. I came upon the G2 right before the G2C came out. I had no prior history with Taurus but the price was right. I was getting my LTC so the first thing I did was take it to the range and put 400 rounds through it. I had two failures that were my fault due to bad grip and pressing the mag release. After that (and one very sore thumb) I had no further issues. Since then, I have put 3000+ rounds though it and I will tell you that it will not feed (mine) 124gr ammo very well. Tried different mags just to make sure that wasn't the issue. Also, aluminum and steel case ammo it has ejection issues with. But 115gr brass, it will run as fast and as long as I can afford to feed it. The rear sights are fully adjustable, however, the elevation works on a cam type system, so after a few rounds it will rotate back to the bottom and you loose your elevation. If I remember, TruGlow sells aftermarket sights for the G2. Anyway, that's all I got. And for those who want you to show the entire unedited video, no doubt are democrats who want the unredacted version. God bless and have a good day.Mike J.Schertz, Tx
I own two Taurus G2c’s got about 400 rounds through each and have no complaints so far, only Hangup was the trigger take up but got use to it after a short period of time, definitely recommend it for first time handgun buyers and even experienced shooters
For what little my input is worth here: I bought my Taurus PT111 G2 in 2014 and I've put just over four-thousand rounds through it, without a single malfunction so far. It's been my concealed carry firearm literally every single day since I purchased it. The two original magazines that came with it have been loaded every single day since I brought it home, and to this day I still shoot with those two magazines and they still perform without malfunction. The bluing/finish (whatever the finish is) has worn off in many spots, due mostly to daily insert and removal from the holster, as well as daily draw and dry-fire practice (which I do for between 10 and 20 minutes per day). I did decide to put in a heavier recoil spring from Lakeline. It has greatly reduced snap / muzzle flip. However, I replaced it because I WANTED to, not because I HAD to. The original recoil spring is still perfectly intact. That's about all I've got to say about it thus far. I love the firearm and I'll continue carrying it until it proves to be anything other than reliable.
I had a Millennium G2 that I bought brand new. Loved it until about 150 rounds. Mags kept falling out in middle of firing (I even repositioned my grip to make certain it wasn't operator error). Sent it back to Taurus. Got it back with horrible gunsmithing done to it (grinder marks all in the mag well like the tech let a Dremel bounce around everywhere). It didn't make it through two mags until it paper weighted. Shot it, slide cycled and locked up in the rear. Sent it back a second time and traded it in as soon as it came back (Taurus replaced the entire frame). I really loved everything (ergonomics, trigger, ease of take down) about it except the dependability. I'd love to give another a shot but was so snake bit by the first I'm leery of giving another a chance. All honesty, it was my favorite carry, beating out several higher end firearms I own, until the issues kept happening. I'll probably give a G2C a shot in the future with high hopes but really may end up sticking with my next favorite Springfield XDE.
Lakeline has T/FO sights. HAWG Holsters has Kydex IWB w Ulti-clip that are awesome. Safariland also has a cheap ALS Holster (no shim needed ) for the Millennium G2 that works with the G2C. I see the mags for 30 bucks,almost everywhere I shop.
I have a pt111 G2 some of the earlier ones had so called problems, I have 1000 rounds through it , i have shot everything you can throw at it up to Buffalo bore +p 147 grain. I like it more then my xds 45. I haven’t had any issues. Lakeline LLC has other site options.
Maybe a late comment. I have a G2C with over 3000 rounds, I did upgrade the recoil rod rod and spring due to feed issues with hollow point rounds. with a lakeline LLC rod and spring. I have trained with this gun for over 2 years in both defensive pistol and steel challenge "competitions" at a local sportsman club. NO I am not the top off class but I have improved greatly with this daily carry compact with no issues. You do need to keep this gun clean, the ramp especially , I have polished mine which helped a lot.
I’ve only put 250 thru mine, but not a single malfunction, and a ragged egg-sized hole at 7 yards after two full mags is pretty darn accurate. I plan to shuck as many rounds through it as I can!
I have a stainless G2c and for an economically priced gun it has a lot to offer. I have run more than 1200 rounds without a single failure to load, fire, or eject which has impressed me. The one issue I had with it was that the trigger blade safety was very notchy and often sticks during the long pull. Hoping that it would "break in" and improve turned out to be a false hope and after about 500 rounds or so I was through wishing and installed a trigger that eliminated the blade safety and reduced the length of pull by almost a third. Instantly this mod made the gun feel and operate like one costing twice as much. Although I didn't have any problems with the polymer guide rod, I went ahead and replaced it with a stainless guide rod and spring assembly and just feel more confident with it in there. The stock trigger had to go, but the guide rod replacement was optional. Overall, this shoots very well and the excellent mags a good part of it. If you want more than 12 rounds then order an 18 round mag for a Sig 226 by Mec-Gar and it works perfectly, and you can get a sleeve for a few bucks on ebay that fits well. The Mec-Gar mags are very well made and operate flawlessly in the G2c including holding the slide open after the last shot. I'm real interested in finding out how well those G2c's will hold up for 10,000 rounds.
Most of the recoil spring issues I would see reported in the taurusarmed forum was from the g2c’s predecessor the pt111 g2. The coils would would overlap each other and lock up the gun. It was normally only after some extended use (1-2k rounds). This may have been corrected when they came out with the g2c.
I NEVER heard of you before today James Yeager; but I heard you today loud and clear. You sound as though you know what you're talking about; and I'll trust that until you ever give me a reason not to. Thanks for the info; great video.
The reason I respect James's opinion is he doesent just give first impression videos or ridiculous torture tests. He gives realistic reviews of things that were tested to the realistic extremes
This dude cares about people. Period. Support good dudes doing good work.
From watching his stuff for the long term, I love his "always learning, always a student" mentality. I feel like just because of that, any other quirks he may or may not have are excusable. When I can do it, im definitely going to take some of his classes. Im broke right now but I wont be forever!
I like what he said about helping people get their gun in shape for the fight. Where as other instructors said not to bring them.
@Hector Cat gun community is a bunch of assholes. This is gun culture.
I carry one of these every day. I call it my Rio Glock.
*update* nearly 3k rounds now. Very few cleanings between and still going strong.
That's funny shit right there
Hahaha word up dude ....
LOL 😂 😂 😂
RIO GLOCK AHAHAHA !!
I'm going to use that lol I called it a Kansas Glock
Bro, I have a good job but, I'm NOT rich. I have a family, two boys and a wife. I have a house and cars to pay for. I don't have to scrape together a couple hundred bucks for a pistol but, I need to justify the cost. I can justify spending a couple hundred bucks on a weapon I KNOW will work and better yet last. You help me make that choice and for that, I am so grateful. THANK YOU, keep up the great work.
This G2C is up there with Glocks. Your family and yourself is now protected with no second thoughts.
Debt slave you are. Buy used, you should have.
Bra check out them smith&Wesson sd ve 9mm or 40cal or a sccy9mm all colors wanna ar pistol ati omini 556 check them out
Bro these guns are awesome...I have shot 1500 rounds thru mine, not one FTF!
William Howland Your comment could’ve been written by me. I agree with all you’ve said. I personally don’t see the point of paying $500-$1200 for a weapon just for a name if there are equally reliable ones out there for less.
I own and love my Taurus G2C. I have 5200 rounds through mine now. At 1500 rounds at cleaning I noticed that my recoil rod and spring had a slight bend to it. NOTE IT DID NOT BREAK OR FAIL. So being me I replaced it. I still have OEM as back up. I would put my life on this firearm. In fact 3 weeks and 5 days ago it saved my life. This fire arm is exceptional. I would stack it up against any other fire arm out there. Plus the G2C works with sig saur p226 9mm mags. Canik 20 Rd mags MEC Gar 9 mm clips ProMag 15rd 18rd 32 Rd mags Taurus made 9mm mags. Wow that's a lot of different magazine possiblities.
Restrike capability is also faster than tap/rack. Both work but pressing the trigger again to utilize restrike vs tap/rack; restrike capability to fire off a round when at first it won't go bang,will save someone's life,one day. Just a thought. Great gun at a great price.
I love my G2C, put about 800 rounds through it stock, and 1200 through it after the lakeline LLC stainless guide rod, recoil spring, and the stainless striker guide.
The trigger reset is sweet by the way. I talked the gun manager at the local shop into trying it and he said the reset is as good as his sig's that he owns.
Thank you for all the effort involved in this entire testing series. Not only a noble cause, but a realistic cause. Don’t let them twist your words, you’re the only guy I’ve seen even offer payment options for your training, which DOES help out those struggling with finances. What you’re doing is a good thing and there are a lot of us who appreciate all of it!
Is this agood choice for first gun ? All reviews are positive and its on sale with rebate
I’ve had 2 of these and also 2 709 slim I honestly couldn’t tell you how many rounds I put through the first one and your right I wanted to get my CHL and refused to carry a hipoint and my wife and I had just bought a house and had a 1 year old so the Pt111 g2 was the best option for me at that time and I just recently was able to buy my first Glock 19.... I’m glad to see you giving Taurus a fair shot
Jeff Kinder my 709 was complete junk and left an absolute nasty sour taste in my mouth for anything Taurus ever again .
austin eubnks the first 709s was junk they changed the extractors in them and made them actually a really good gun
Jeff Kinder I disagree mine was after the extractor change date and then even got another extractor from Taurus and still sucked ass . FTE 1/50 rounds . Doesn’t pass a carry test no where near .
austin eubnks That sucks man. My best friend carries a 709 slim, and we’ve put over a thousand rounds through it with about as many failures as my Glock. I’m not saying it’s a Glock by any means, but it’s a hell of a lot better than a hipoint for almost the same price.
I have a hi-point .45, thing is just terrible in every metric. It's a nightstand gun with one in the chamber now, because it'll go bang at least once. Now after that...lady luck will decide. In one range session last time I took it out, I had 11 failures in 100 rounds. FTE/FTF/double feed, you name it.
I bought a G2 after that. In 700 rounds so far I've had no issues, and that's in four range sessions shooting various kinds of ammo, all the way down to crappy range ammo. It's my EDC, and I do trust it to get 13 shots off just as fast I can acquire the target and pull the trigger. That's another strong point - 12+1 capacity. Even my friend's VP only carries 10+1. It makes the gun a little heavier, but I'll take 13 rounds if I can, thanks.
It would take a special gun to take the Taurus' place on my side, as I've tried out Glock, M&P, Beretta, XD, Kimber carry, etc. The only gun I would take today over my G2 as EDC is the VP9, and that gun is over 3 times the price.
James I bought my g2 with the sole purpose of seeing how many rounds it could fire without being cleaned. I am currently at 2300 rounds without being cleaned with zero malfunctions.
Last year I bought a new Taurus PT111 G2 because the reviews were so good. From previous experience with Taurus semi-autos I was expecting a failure right away. After 1,200 leisurely rounds through it, still no failure. I did sell it, but kind of wish I still had it. It just worked. I am looking forward to this test.
Hey James, I work on people's shit. The only problem I have witnessed with G2Cs so far is the fact that the rear sight is held on by a single screw; which seems to have a slight tendancy to back out and fall off. Also it is basically only held by that screw so I've seen people lose their sights. So all I'd really say is get a bottle of low heat loctite.
That said, this is relatively few. I've sold probably something like 400 or 500 of them, I think my rate of this problem coming in has been like 1% roughly. Sorry, haven't kept a perfect count. But it's definitely less than 10.
I have NOT seen any problems with the guiderod on this one personally, but I also haven't personally shot it up either.
If you give a shit, great, if not, great. Just figured I'd drop the heads up on what I've seen.
One of the most relevant comments here.
abortedlord it’s good to hear an experts review. You just helped me make up my mind. Thanks for responding!
That’s what I’m looking for!
Yeah I noticed that on mine that I just purchased. Put 200 rounds through it and took it apart to clean, I noticed the screw and gave it a little tightening. Good advice on the loctite though thanks!
Good shit
I love how you say it’s a great gun for those on little income. I bought this gun and have about 2,000 rounds through it and I carry it every day. I have student debt and I’m about to get married and move out with my soon to be wife. We are gonna be on a lower income and saving for rent and car payments and other such stuff. I bought this gun because of its price point and for the price it is an INCREDIBLY pistol
Stop bashing James because he used the term "poor people". Some people like to find products that are a good value.
Sua Sponte never claim the title “poor” even if you don’t have alot
I just bought my G2c last week and am glad you're doing this torture test. As soon as my shoulder heals (rotator cuff surgery) and my knee and foot heal, I'll give you my feedback on running rounds through it. Thanks as always James!
I have a millennium G2c and I have a little over 500 rounds through it with out any failures. I am a man in need of a budget option that I can count on. I purchased an excellent holster from Minutemen concealment I love it carry it every day. Thank you for doing this. I don't take it as a slight at all.
The more CCW armed citizens you create with this wonderful idea = the fewer victims and the fewer live criminals.
James keep up the great content!!!💯 I can't wait 2 see your findings on the G2C.
You n me both bruh. I been checking back pretty much everyday for the review!
I own G2C and love it got 1000 rounds
Through mine no failures of any kind
Super short reset awesome trigger
Holds 12 rounds it's small is just like a Glock that holds more rounds and is just as good if not better. It's not a budget gun it's a great gun.Thanks for the awesome video
I had the generation before this G2 model, and it had problems from the first mag. The recoil spring had a catastrophic failure under 50 rounds. I didn't even make it out of the complimentary 50 round box of 124gr Blazer brass the dealer through in. That being said, I sent it back to Taurus, paid 27.95 for shipping (bs), and it seems to be alright.
I got a new in box g2c and out of the box it has been flawless. Granted I have not put many rounds down the chamber yet but from past experience I am thinking this is a great gun, for the features and the cost.
I wanted a back up to my other 9mm but it's becoming my favorite.
I have been carrying this gun for 4 years, I have over 1200 rounds through it. I have Glocks, sigs, Smith and Wesson but I carry this one. I teach ccw classes in Illinois and bought one to let students use and it has also been flawless with over 2000 rounds. Mecgar Sig 226 mags work very well in this gun. I have 13 rounds in the gun with 18 as backup. Definitely the best gun for the money and for me my favorite carry gun period. Keep up the good work, producing great videos.
What about it is better than a Glock sig or Smith that makes you carry the taurus above any of them other than price? Honest question
@@mustanglx2 It has been just reliable, I like the grip and size the capacity. I think it looks good and most of all if use it in a self defense scenario I'm not out $500-$1000.
@@sr9man32 if ya ever have a real self defense scenario the price of the pistol involved will be your last consideration however in the event of theft I completely understand. Good gun glad ya like it brother😎
@@mustanglx2 It will be the last thing that I'm thinking about in that moment, but when all is said and done, I will have to replace it. Reliability comes first, if I hadn't found this gun I would still be carrying my glock. This has been just as reliable and I can buy two and some ammo for the price of the glock. Thank you, do you own one as well?
@@sr9man32 sure do(bought as a back up gun and price is great) only about 400 rounds through it has ran good and trigger kinda shocked me for the price. I personally still carry either my g26 or g17 but i dig em
I just picked up one of these G2c's yesterday (5-4-19) and I can not wait to get to the range tomorrow with it. Gonna start with 100 rounds of Armscor 115 grain fmj, followed by a cleaning and 100 rounds of Remington Umc JHP 115 grain as my opening test. I have no doubt it will eat every bit of this ammo and more. Thanks a bunch James for this, really helps out when you are shopping on a budget.
Just got one of these as my first gun for around the house. Gotta day it feels pretty good, not too heavy, not too much recoil, holds 10+1 came with 2 clips and all for just $250 you can’t beat that !
Ive put about 5000 rounds though my gtc and it is awsome. Still have the origianal spring. I really like Taurus i also have a PT92 made in 1994 and it is the most accurate hand gun i own.
Consumer Reports of firearms. That is you, Sir!
I load ammunition for a company that also has a store front and a pistol range. We've sold a few dozen G2Cs with zero returns or complaints. Our G2C demo gun has yet to have any parts breakage and minimal failures but I've no idea how many rounds have been shot through it.
I'm very curious to see how these little guns do in your test.
While why don't you find out
@@NOT-FINANCIAL-ADVICE. not sure I understand your question. Im curious how they do in his testing and evaluation. I don't have the knowledge, opportunity or the access to the facilities required to have several different people using different examples of the same gun in a properly run, high stress training environment.
I subbed to your channel for two reasons one because I’m getting this gun in a few days and I love your honesty about it and two because I’m actually disabled from a failed back surgery and it has just about ruined my life but I get by. I hate being on ssi but I started working when I was 15 and worked up until I was 35 when I needed back surgery because of an accident and the surgeon ruined my spine. And I will never be able to work again. But I need an affordable firearm to defend myself with and this gun is the exact one I found and will be getting this Monday. And you seem to actually care about people in my situation and I appreciate that. Thanks for the honest review and I feel real good about getting this particular firearm.
I'm still rocking the original pt111 g2 1000+ rounds in a year and a half. Still eating everything I feed it
@first class junkie not sure the cleaning part is really that important either. I've had problems with that crap winchester forged stuff which my shield eats fine but otherwise no problems even after non cleaning after 300+ rds. I lost count but I easily have more than 500rds through this, maybe closer to 1k.
I think the shield is a better made pistol and stainless and maybe slightly less picky than this pistol. Expensive stuff I like HK hammer fired with lem trigger.
Anybody had problems with Fiochi FMJ ? I had some failures but I think it was only with my extended MecGar P226 20 rounder.
same here 2000 plus rounds
Did you do the stainless steel guide rod upgrade??
That's the main issue I used to see people talk about... But the stainless upgrade is only like $30 if I remember right.
@@calholli yes I upgraded to the stainless as soon as I bought my gun.
Lakeline LLC has some sights that can be purchased from them for this firearm
Lakeline is solid. That's where I got my steel internals for my PT111. Sights are next.
And they make a great steel guide rod and double captive spring for the G2.
Lakeline also makes a stainless striker guide that really improves trigger feel. Totally worth the price of $16 ish dollars.
I’m 21 and my wife’s 25 we have a kid that’s 10 months old I’ve owned several handguns form glocks to sigs to m&p but I’ve had to sell everything to keep our heads above water. I bought two g2c for me and my wife between both guns we have about 7000 rounds through them the only problem we have had between the guns was a bad primer in some old blazer ammo that didn’t want to go bang on the first trigger pull but restrike ability fixed that problem we have ran the guns in hot humid conditions to -10 conditions we have ran then dry and lubricanted they have ate steel cased ammo to aluminum for the $200 to $250 range I feel completely confident that our g2cs will run if are life’s depends on it the only complaint I can really think of is the aftermarket options for the gun but I understand it takes time.
I had one of the older model PT111 G2s and it was a great pistol... I never had a failure with it but the older model did have a lot of take up in the trigger pull but after training with it for awhile you get used to it. But they are amazing pistols for the price you can’t beat them.
I have a G2C with about 700 rds through it. Its my under the mattress/Hiking backpack gun. Concealment Express makes a great IWB Holster for it also Looking forward to seeing your class results
My Stealth Gear IWB universe holster work well to hold it in place for kidney carry.
I’ve had one I bought used, showed clear signs of serious wear. Pt111 g2, NOT the G2C I’ve shot probably 1500 rounds out of it over the last year. Only issue I ever had was 1 of my magazines would fall out occasionally. Tested which one was the issue, marked it and called Taurus with the issue. No questions asked they sent me one within a week. I was very impressed considering it was a used pistol. New magazine has no issues. Very happy overall with the pistol.
Thank you James I just got this for $199.99 . Thank you for caring about people.
I’m excited to see the results of this. I’ve seen several of the older Tauruses choke, I hope the new ones do better.
I have almost 3500 rounds through mine with no issues. I did change the recoil spring after about 1000 rounds not because something broke But because I heard that sometimes the springs go out. I used the lakeline LLC spring assembly.
Taurus may not be admitting to a recoil spring issue. There was an issue maybe a couple years ago with what appeared to be a vendor issue. The springs reportedly were not ground flat and some walked off the guide rod. Sight options at Lakeline llc, and Alien Gear has good holsters for the G2/G2C.
I asked if there IS a problem.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I believe what you said about the recoil spring James. Don't know if the departments at Taurus have a communications issue. I did have an issue with Lakeline's stainless replacement assembly. The head on theirs is slightly larger on the barrel lug end. It wouldn't go into battery if it wasn't perfectly centered. Had to reduce it to Taurus' factory dimension.
Thanks for looking out man. Nice to see someone looking out for the working folks
Yeager, great stuff here. I'm a father of four who bought one when I made less than 30k a year. My income has increased by more than triple and now I've bought the G2C for a few young families to have and invited them out to train with it. Thousands of rounds through five different G2Cs without a hiccup so far. IMHO, the best first gun a person could have if it fits their hand.
Good on you. Now get some TRAINING.
James, I had never liked Taurus in the past, but I am looking forward to the
results of the test. As to the sights, maybe one of our favorite sight companies
will step up.
You can get TruGlo Tritium Pro Sights for $70 on lakeline llc
I have 500+ through mine and ZERO issues. 5 different types of ammo. 4 cheapo brands and some fort Scott TUI rounds. Straight from the box with no lube or cleaning until after this last time at the range. Flawless cycling every time. So far, it gets my thumbs up. Wife shoots it pretty well too. She has zero experience coming into this firearm. Love it
One of the points that sold me on the original PT111 G2 was the perfect fit in my hands, and the wife's, as well. I like 1911s, but I've never been comfortable with their large grip.
The G2C I now own fits my hands like a custom, it's one of the most naturally pointing pistols I've ever laid my hands on. I shoot it better than any other pistol I've used.
Cabela's sells mags for these pistols, and lower than some online sellers.
I agree on the grip fitting well. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks it fits like it was custom tailored for MY hand. Taurus really stepped up and set the bar higher with this firearm in the ~$200 range. I’m left handed, so finding a handgun off the shelf that feels good and is easy to operate is a pain. I’m officially a fanboy on this specific model.
James, keep up the good work friend. I know everyone says the recoil springs are bad, but my wife and I have had ours for 7 months. We put 300 rounds through them every Saturday since we bought them. No issues, no problems at all. We dont shoot steel or aluminum casings but we love our g2c's. I even shot mine at a local 3 gun shoot for a charity back around Christmas. The sights are great, the grip is wonderful. Taurus out dis themselves this time. And with my we the people iwb holster, I carry it everywhere
Really hate I didn't jump in on this. I hope y'all have a great time. Thanks James.
My local Rural King had them on Special this week at 179 with a 25 dollar rebate from Taurus. I went three different times and the last one sold just before I got in line today. I went to my local Dunham's and not only did they match it (with rebate) I got the stainless steel top. Looking forward to range time.
No matter what you say some folks are just going to pick it apart, *Basement Warriors*, God bless, brother.
I have a PT111 G2 Millennium that I’ve owned for over 2 years. My pistol is the generation previous to the G2C but there were only very minor changes in the latest version so I consider this comment pertinent. I use this gun to carry hunting, fishing and as a truck gun. My pistol has fired at least 1,000 rounds. It is the solid black version. I have added Trijicon tritium night sights purchased through Lakeline LLC and they were easy to install and are windage adjustable. I really like this pistol! It is not as accurate as some my higher priced pistols with match grade barrels but is still very accurate. My pistol likes better quality ammunition in 124 grain or higher in a fairly hot load. It does not like 115 grain bullets nearly as well. I shoot the 124 grain Speer Lawman and it always performs flawlessly. I ordered a SS replacement guide rod in the factory weight and the pistol did not perform well so I went back to the plastic factory guide rod. I paid $209 plus tax at a local gun shop. I will list Pros and Cons below.
Pros: Price, reliability, descent accuracy for the intended purpose, it is easily concealable, well constructed for a pistol in this price range, large magazine capacity at 12 rounds in a fairly thin double stack magazine, reasonably comfortable to shoot at up to 100 rounds at the range, adjustable OEM rear sight for both windage and elevation, large trigger well (gloved hands fit with no issue), good ergonomics (with one exception I will list below), very tactile external safety both on and off, crisp trigger break with a short reset, came with 2 high quality anti-friction 12 round magazines, magazines seat and eject outstandingly, fairly low bore axis, nicely polished feed ramp
Cons: Plastic sights and plastic guide rod from factory, finish will eventually show wear on the slide if holstered in a kydex holster (but so does the Kimpro finish on a much higher priced Kimber pistol I own), the undercut for the grip under the trigger guard is not cut high enough so it tends to be uncomfortable on the middle finger of the dominate hand when shooting 100 plus rounds for me (I don’t shoot with gloves, I live in GA and it is just too hot), fairly snappy felt recoil with the hotter rounds but you expect that with a 3.2” barrel,
Overall, I consider this to be the best VALUE priced pistol on the market.
I am a 24 year old father. My fiance and I are not poor by any means, but for me and my family financially, this gun makes sense. It gets the job done, and for a $200 expense this gun gives me and my family the protection we are entitled to by our creator.
I’ve watched mr Yeager for years now, and he does care. He wants everyone to be safe and be able to protect yourself poor or rich. Can’t wait to see the results
the G2C was/is my first pistol, i got it after watching many reviews on youtube. i will admit freely that a huge factor was the price, $218 after tax, but everyone of the videos i watched had great feedback. i got mine, went out bought 200 rounds and headed for the closest range. the trigger has a long pull compared to the others ive shot, it took a bit to get use to and i still am. i got 90 rounds through before i had my first fail to feed, i did take the gun from the box and went right to shooting it didnt take it apart or anything. so the gun failed to feed, pulled the slid back cleared the round feed the next, fired and then failed to feed again. on my 94th round the gun completely jammed the slide would not move it was 3/4 the way open and i could not move the slide at all. i contacted taurus, they have a life time warranty on their firearms, i get the shipping label emailed to me and send it out. 2 weeks its with them, they ended up replacing basicly everything except the barrel inside the gun. since that ive had 600 rounds with zero issues from the gun, i still need some more practice. for the price for a first time budget minded person looking for a gun id recommend it even with what happen, the company took quick care of me and i had my gun back quick. i would like to upgrade the sights down the road but the ones it comes with the rear are adjustable. the texture on the grip is great its grippy but doesnt feel rough on your hand even after firing 200 rounds. take apart is very simple making cleaning a breeze.
It will be interesting to see how this test goes. I have an older PT111 and have quite a few rounds through it. I've had students in my classes using the newer Taurus and none of them have had any issues with it either.
My G2C had a issue with the recoil spring at around 700 rounds shot through it, got a stainless steel replacement from lakeline.
I have the PT111 and the G2C and the P365. They all have their place in my carry rotation. Love the way show how to pick out the folks that don't know guns but offer an opinion. I shoot mine. I am hard on them. And all three are still running. My Taurus's run the same as my P365. Keep up the informative work an informed consumer is an educated buyer. Taurus has a great product line in firearms at a very reasonable price.
I’ve got 550 through my G2C. I absolutely love this pistol... my favorite EDC
The G2C is a perfect gift for a new ccw also. I bought this for my brother as soon as he got his license to conceal and I’ve been there for 1.5k-2k rounds of the 2.5k that’s been through it and I’ve not seen 1 malfunction. I even tried to get it to malfunction from poor grip to simulate a limp wrist malfunction and I couldn’t get it to do wrong. It took him over a thousand rounds to hit where he was aiming but once he got his technique down he can now cut the bullseye out of targets at 15 yards with the G2C. We’ve been using only +p ammo for the last 1500 rounds and counting. He’s got a much better edc now so we’re seeing how far the G2C will go on 124gr +P Speer gold dot.
Great concept, good execution, hilarious banter. This series may be the successor to the Crazy Hot Video. Keep it up.
I can’t wait to see the results of this test. I bought one recently and I don’t have very much ammo through it. Really glad that a big guntuber is paying attention to products like this. I’m it modest means and I would rather spend more money on ammo and less on guns.
Got a couple CZ's but really been looking at this gun for my wife and kid and as a good backup. Really appreciate you testing these out and giving your feedback through one of your gun fighting classes. Keep up the great work sir.
We have seen only one break due to a recoil spring assembly failure thus far. When it failed the slide was stuck open almost fully and would not close more than 1/4 of an inch. We took out the backplate and firing pin to make sure that was not catching on the sear. Best we can tell the recoil spring broke in half preventing the slide from closing, but it had to go back to the factory for service.
The example you gave of a newly wed couple is exactly why I bought my first Taurus. I had a carry gun but my wife did not. She picked out a 5 shot Taurus revolver. She carried it for years before deciding she wanted something else. I qualified and carried it as a backup gun when I worked armored car. I eventually sold it to a friend who needed an affordable gun.
Taurus 85 snubby was my first concealed carry piece. I also bought it when my x wife and I were young and just starting out
I'm about a G3C because of how popular The G2C was in a positive all the reviews have been from reputable gun reviewers like yourself. I was able to buy a 1000 round case of 9mm ammo prependemic and anticipation of getting a G2C to carry but when the pandemic hit I got distracted trying to keep my business afloat and ended up waiting and luckily the G3C came out. I have 790 rounds through it and it has been flawless. I made sure yo clean it good when I first got it, lubed it really well to break it in properly and I've kept it clean and properly oiled. It runs so smooth and I couldn't have asked more from a gun especially one that cost that cost me $250.
Going to be a great class with a great crew of people. Thanks James!
As one of those old disabled guys on a fixed budget all I can say is well done. My G2C only has 300 rounds through it so I'm looking forward to your results. I bought it because of it's reputation and so far I love it. Also Lakeline and Tru Glo both have sights for the G2C.
I've had nothing but trouble with my PT111 G2. Had it since Oct 2017, only put about 300 rounds through it. Had several failure to extract. Two times I had cases get stuck in it and they had to be punched out with a dowel.
Sucks cuz I want to love it, but I just can't. I hope those G2C's work better!
I'm very glad to see this test being done. I'd be very interested to see some tests with the G2C shooting a variety of hollow point ammunition. If it functions with jhp's, it will seem that Taurus has a winner! Bravo Mr. Yeager! You do good work.
I've owned mine for about 7 months. I have the Galloway precision Asmund trigger. (Love it) and put a ss recoil assembly love it as well.
Anyway I've carried daily for this time.period. and have shot 3000 rounds s&w nato.rounds 124g +p not 1 failure to feed or failure to fire has occured. The sights are spot on from the box.
My o ly issue is finish wears quickly but creosote is a cost effective option
Great gun.
Loved it so much in the 9mm I bought it in .40 as well 500 rounds through it no issues first day never missed a beat . Bone stock. Had to move sight slightly but that's it another great Taurus pistol
Rocked the original Pt111 pro for almost 4 years. Ran roughly 3000 rounds through with only 3 malfunctions. 2 were due to improperlyreloaded ammunition so cases bulges in chamber. The third was a ftf, but was due to a broken mag spring. I gifted that pistol to a friend of mine, and he hasn't had a problem yet. I currently have about 1100 rounds through my g2. No malfunctions as of yet. Only issue I had was the trigger would hang up a bit due to a bur on the trigger safety shoe. Once the bur was gone, trigger was good. And though it seems like I only shoot Taurus; ruger, beretta, sig, and Hk all grace my safe and are shot almost as frequently.
I can't wait for this test. My G2C has 500 rounds through it and no problems so far.
James, I just bought a G2c 3 weeks ago. I’ve put 300 rounds in it, and not a single problem. I also had a pt111 g2 millennium. Not a problem there either. I lived in Camden, now in Carroll county.
This , the Ruger Security 9 and the S&W SD9 are killer values.
Especially if you shoot people with them.
@@abcdaw22 I see your back to your Ruger bashing jargon. Show where Ruger hurt you
You've got my respect for doing this.
I've cycled 200 rounds through mine so far, and I bought it Black Friday of 2018. it's been solid so far. didnt clean it after the 2nd 50 rounds, and it hasn't had any issues at all. great gun for cheap so far. really enjoying it.
This is going to be interesting to see how things turn out. I recommend this gun and have no trigger time behind it. I never hear negative words about the Gen2. I have a friend who is strapped for cash. This is a gun I told him to get. I wish I had bought his Sig P229 that he sold to pay a bill. I would have given it right back to him. I'm looking forward to the upcoming videos and results.
Update from my comment on part 1
Have over 2000 through it now. Almost 900 in the last 3 weeks without cleaning it. (Was curious if it would have the same mag feed issue but it must have been gravel/muck from dropping it in the run and shoot) Action shoot last weekend and indoor range today. ZERO problems. Am now putting almost all rounds in the 8 ring or better under 25 yards. Once you get comfortable with the reset and sight picture this is a gem.
No unusual wear noted. Just cleaned it. Barrel needed a little extra but all good otherwise. G19 still all alone in the safe...sorry Gaston. The bull is in the holster now.
Bought a G2C three weeks ago, have shot 200+ rounds through it, had problem with the first five rounds, failure to go into battery. Attributed to bad batch of (Armscor) ammo, switched to Federal and Tula and have had no problem. This thing shoots awesome
I have 700 round down range with my G2C. I have one round with a weak primer strike, everything else has been great.
I have a G2C that I’ve fired between 800 and 1000 rounds. Not one single problem! Best $200 I have EVER spent. I did, at @ 400 rounds upgrade the striker guide with a stainless steel one to replace the factory red plastic one. I done this ONLY because I had heard that it helps take out the kinda gritty feel in the trigger between to end of the take up and the actual release of the striker. It absolutely makes it buttery smooth! $16.95 on lakelinellc.com I also, since it was just a little more, replaced the firing pin spring and return spring for $6.99. So, now for only @$25 plus shipping I made my already great little economy friendly EDC firearm even better! Love it! Keep the great content coming James! Love your channel brother.
After several videos about the same gun. You are the only one that doesn’t complaint about the trigger. I totally agree with you.👍👍Thank you for the awesome video.
I know how to shoot.
I just watched your Taurus show and liked it. I have two Taurus .45's. I got a two tone one when the first came out and later found a PT 145 PRO and do I ever love the pro. I thought the trigger pull was a bit long on the first one, like shooting a revolver but the pro just had a little slack then to fire, don't cough because it will fire. I love it for target shooting and it is dead on. I have shot 45's since I was young, now retired. I really loved them in the jungle during my three tours with Army S.F. I guess mine are Gen 1's but they didn't call them that then I also have three Taurus Judges and three other snubbed. I guess I am a Taurus guy. Glad you mentioned the holster company because I have had a problem finding holsters for the early model autos. I have a 400 lumen OLight on that Pro. Love the fact that it is rechargeable. Thanks again and I look forward to seeing your future shows. Rick Bicknell.
I’ve had mine for less than a year and put over 500 rounds through it (all my friends thought it was cool that I had a gun so they all wanted to shoot it) and it’s run flawlessly. Some of the controls were a bit sticky at first but everything has worn in now. Hoping to get to 1000 by next year
I had a PT145 that I carried for years, I even shot IDPA with it for a while. It was my first compact handgun. I liked having 11 rounds of .45 ACP. It was also the only gun I’ve competed with that was 100% stock. A lot of that was lack of aftermarket support and the fact that I wasn’t big into modifying guns yet, because I didn’t know much about it.
I always liked the Straight 8 sights that came on it. Not sure how many rounds I put through it, but I ran it fast in IDPA and it didn’t malfunction other than a couple of failure to fires, which could have been ammo. I got away from shooting it once I got more competitive in IDPA. I went to a Taurus PT1911 shooting CDP for a while, but to be fair I gutted the thing and replaced everything but the slide, frame and barrel. At this point of shooting competition other than GSSF I don’t have many guns that aren’t full of aftermarket parts. I run a M&P Pro 9mm now in SSP primarily. Nothing against Taurus, but they don’t have much aftermarket support...My M&P is more Apex than S&W at this point. I even went to an Apex barrel.
The PT145 got stolen a few years back, I left it in my car in a safe cabled to the seat. Figured I’d always have a gun handy on the road that way...fuckers cut the cable and took the whole damn safe. I learned any safe in the car needs to be mounted.
I’m at around 900 rounds and I have not had any issues and my grouping is pretty tight now that I’m used to the long trigger pull. Great gun to beat up at the range with friends. I recommend a buy, I even went ahead and bought a we the people holster if I ever want to conceal carry. Almost as fun as my PMR30
I have 350 rounds through my G2C now and have had absolutely no issues with it. I’m so happy this was my first handgun purchase!
Great video loving the series so far definitely still interested on how it turns out the g2c is still on my radar
Love the video. I came upon the G2 right before the G2C came out. I had no prior history with Taurus but the price was right. I was getting my LTC so the first thing I did was take it to the range and put 400 rounds through it. I had two failures that were my fault due to bad grip and pressing the mag release. After that (and one very sore thumb) I had no further issues. Since then, I have put 3000+ rounds though it and I will tell you that it will not feed (mine) 124gr ammo very well. Tried different mags just to make sure that wasn't the issue. Also, aluminum and steel case ammo it has ejection issues with. But 115gr brass, it will run as fast and as long as I can afford to feed it. The rear sights are fully adjustable, however, the elevation works on a cam type system, so after a few rounds it will rotate back to the bottom and you loose your elevation. If I remember, TruGlow sells aftermarket sights for the G2. Anyway, that's all I got. And for those who want you to show the entire unedited video, no doubt are democrats who want the unredacted version. God bless and have a good day.Mike J.Schertz, Tx
I own two Taurus G2c’s got about 400 rounds through each and have no complaints so far, only Hangup was the trigger take up but got use to it after a short period of time, definitely recommend it for first time handgun buyers and even experienced shooters
For what little my input is worth here: I bought my Taurus PT111 G2 in 2014 and I've put just over four-thousand rounds through it, without a single malfunction so far. It's been my concealed carry firearm literally every single day since I purchased it. The two original magazines that came with it have been loaded every single day since I brought it home, and to this day I still shoot with those two magazines and they still perform without malfunction.
The bluing/finish (whatever the finish is) has worn off in many spots, due mostly to daily insert and removal from the holster, as well as daily draw and dry-fire practice (which I do for between 10 and 20 minutes per day).
I did decide to put in a heavier recoil spring from Lakeline. It has greatly reduced snap / muzzle flip. However, I replaced it because I WANTED to, not because I HAD to. The original recoil spring is still perfectly intact.
That's about all I've got to say about it thus far. I love the firearm and I'll continue carrying it until it proves to be anything other than reliable.
I had a Millennium G2 that I bought brand new. Loved it until about 150 rounds. Mags kept falling out in middle of firing (I even repositioned my grip to make certain it wasn't operator error). Sent it back to Taurus. Got it back with horrible gunsmithing done to it (grinder marks all in the mag well like the tech let a Dremel bounce around everywhere). It didn't make it through two mags until it paper weighted. Shot it, slide cycled and locked up in the rear. Sent it back a second time and traded it in as soon as it came back (Taurus replaced the entire frame). I really loved everything (ergonomics, trigger, ease of take down) about it except the dependability. I'd love to give another a shot but was so snake bit by the first I'm leery of giving another a chance. All honesty, it was my favorite carry, beating out several higher end firearms I own, until the issues kept happening. I'll probably give a G2C a shot in the future with high hopes but really may end up sticking with my next favorite Springfield XDE.
Man I really hope this works out good, there are folks out there trying to make ends meet that really need a firearm and this could help.
Lakeline has T/FO sights. HAWG Holsters has Kydex IWB w Ulti-clip that are awesome. Safariland also has a cheap ALS Holster (no shim needed ) for the Millennium G2 that works with the G2C. I see the mags for 30 bucks,almost everywhere I shop.
Thank you sir for doing this it is awesome that someone is doing real world test on a gun that is available and affordable
I have a pt111 G2 some of the earlier ones had so called problems, I have 1000 rounds through it , i have shot everything you can throw at it up to Buffalo bore +p 147 grain. I like it more then my xds 45. I haven’t had any issues. Lakeline LLC has other site options.
Absolutely nothing wrong with factory Taurus pistols. Low cost, dependable self defense. I think they have a pretty descent factory trigger as well.
Maybe a late comment. I have a G2C with over 3000 rounds, I did upgrade the recoil rod rod and spring due to feed issues with hollow point rounds. with a lakeline LLC rod and spring. I have trained with this gun for over 2 years in both defensive pistol and steel challenge "competitions" at a local sportsman club. NO I am not the top off class but I have improved greatly with this daily carry compact with no issues. You do need to keep this gun clean, the ramp especially , I have polished mine which helped a lot.
I’ve only put 250 thru mine, but not a single malfunction, and a ragged egg-sized hole at 7 yards after two full mags is pretty darn accurate. I plan to shuck as many rounds through it as I can!
Thanks James this is gonna be good for all i do believe man!
I have a stainless G2c and for an economically priced gun it has a lot to offer. I have run more than 1200 rounds without a single failure to load, fire, or eject which has impressed me. The one issue I had with it was that the trigger blade safety was very notchy and often sticks during the long pull. Hoping that it would "break in" and improve turned out to be a false hope and after about 500 rounds or so I was through wishing and installed a trigger that eliminated the blade safety and reduced the length of pull by almost a third. Instantly this mod made the gun feel and operate like one costing twice as much. Although I didn't have any problems with the polymer guide rod, I went ahead and replaced it with a stainless guide rod and spring assembly and just feel more confident with it in there. The stock trigger had to go, but the guide rod replacement was optional.
Overall, this shoots very well and the excellent mags a good part of it. If you want more than 12 rounds then order an 18 round mag for a Sig 226 by Mec-Gar and it works perfectly, and you can get a sleeve for a few bucks on ebay that fits well. The Mec-Gar mags are very well made and operate flawlessly in the G2c including holding the slide open after the last shot. I'm real interested in finding out how well those G2c's will hold up for 10,000 rounds.
Most of the recoil spring issues I would see reported in the taurusarmed forum was from the g2c’s predecessor the pt111 g2. The coils would would overlap each other and lock up the gun. It was normally only after some extended use (1-2k rounds). This may have been corrected when they came out with the g2c.
Thanks for the video I got one a year ago and put 825 rounds Through it no problems at all keep the good work
I NEVER heard of you before today James Yeager; but I heard you today loud and clear. You sound as though you know what you're talking about; and I'll trust that until you ever give me a reason not to. Thanks for the info; great video.
Got the same exact one also never had any problems with mine & I don't see the problem with the trigger people talk about either I love it
The reason I respect James's opinion is he doesent just give first impression videos or ridiculous torture tests. He gives realistic reviews of things that were tested to the realistic extremes