Joe Rogan & Jordan Peterson - The Evolutionary Basis for Good vs. Evil Conflict

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  • @rocoreb
    @rocoreb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    clean your rooms

  • @rexpinsel
    @rexpinsel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I find the contrast of the intro "Hello freak bitches" with Jordan Peterson speaking right after that funny. 😂

  • @sumirunihon
    @sumirunihon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    6:53 mans literally just predicted covid authoritarianism in 2017

    • @lesgrossman3405
      @lesgrossman3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤡 it's all a show

    • @andret5418
      @andret5418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay 6ft or end up 6ft . Speaking is a virus. Hence staying socially distant??? And not physical distant. It's more than a show .

  • @jonhil33
    @jonhil33 7 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Holy crap this guy talks some sense...so refreshing.

    • @djackson006
      @djackson006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He posts his university of somewhere in Canada lectures here in TH-cam. Hours and hours of lectures.

    • @potterj09
      @potterj09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He's one of those teachers who truly determines the level of enthusiasm his students develop. He goes to war with boredom & lethargy, & takes no prisoners :)

  • @gustavthegreat2811
    @gustavthegreat2811 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was the most interesting JRE that I’ve heard, and I think the best podcast I’ve heard

  • @xtaekneekx
    @xtaekneekx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Joe literally changed the topic to talking about zyclon A or B cause he just wanted to show he knew something about it

    • @peterzaffaroni2871
      @peterzaffaroni2871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      how tf DID he know about that tho?? haha so completely random - rogan a complete expert on zyclon

    • @Calebthedopegoat
      @Calebthedopegoat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If u actually watched the video.... you would see that the subject was not changed he expounded on it you dolt and even if so what it’s human nature to talk about things you know about

    • @LennonZA
      @LennonZA ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what an interesting conversation involves: the mutual exchange of information

    • @gustavthegreat2811
      @gustavthegreat2811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was so keen to bring it up haha. He has talked about this point so many times on other episodes

  • @silverwingshi
    @silverwingshi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I am here to learn

    • @MWcrazyhorse
      @MWcrazyhorse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I am here to learn and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum.

    • @llsspp
      @llsspp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      josh lott man there are not many of you people left

    • @QuietCrow009
      @QuietCrow009 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A better discussion than what was discussed in my college classes. I wish I was there to put in my two cents and get critiqued.

    • @vincenzospaghetti
      @vincenzospaghetti 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      MWcrazyhorse, You got brains of steel! hahahah

  • @WillJohnson-nx3we
    @WillJohnson-nx3we ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this now is crazy

  • @JASNSOUNDS
    @JASNSOUNDS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    holy motherfuckingshit i like this guy

  • @christpebbles
    @christpebbles 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's funny to me that he brings up automobiles and autonomy. I see so many young people who are not interested in getting a driver's license or gaining any independence. They are over mothered in my estimation and not interested in leaving.

    • @kazama195
      @kazama195 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Automation has removed the need for that sense of independence but it is necessary towards the overall growth of the individual. If you went to any young person on earth and offered them a car they would take it. It's just as Michael N said, we're poor. However you are right in that the lack of need for that independence is what drives our seemingly lack of interest in moving further as individuals and promotes the want of having someone do it for you. We are a babied generation

    • @michaelfeeney9147
      @michaelfeeney9147 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Driving is a bad example

  • @everythingwithashton5876
    @everythingwithashton5876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    19:22 Jordan realizes how much of a tangent he went on.

  • @jorgealbertoramirez6068
    @jorgealbertoramirez6068 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can't wait for may 16th dr jordan peterson

  • @jonasdamion1627
    @jonasdamion1627 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    after all that , "are you sure it was zyklon b and not zyklon a..?." goddamn JP must've been thinking "wow he didnt understand a word i just said"

  • @borilboyanov5544
    @borilboyanov5544 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Guy works/talks with/ archetypes like they are nothing! I like him now... thanks Joe

  • @thewoamusic
    @thewoamusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That why people always viewed me as threatening.... I get it now..... I don't respect the hierarchy. So naturally it thinks I'm a snake. I smoke grass so I guess that makes me "a snake in the grass." 🎉

  • @davefischer2344
    @davefischer2344 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:09 I think it's more than just tribal, it's also deeply psychological

    • @1993Redemption
      @1993Redemption 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tribal is psychology, on a very deep level

    • @davefischer2344
      @davefischer2344 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1993Redemption yes

  • @cherylnagy126
    @cherylnagy126 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An instantaneous Nervous System response, bypassing all cognitive function

  • @JohnTurner313
    @JohnTurner313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mind. Blown.

  • @johanlarsson5425
    @johanlarsson5425 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When i was angry and rude to my father, he allways asked me if eat a snake for breakfast.

  • @DizGuys
    @DizGuys 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like to throw unspoken ideas into groups to mess with hierarchies. Who want's to be part of closed groups!?

  • @KlrRaptoR
    @KlrRaptoR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lancaster Archery supply......Joe knows whats up!

    • @KlrRaptoR
      @KlrRaptoR 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im thinking its just an advertising gig, and Im sure Joe got some perks from it!

  • @sanstronik
    @sanstronik 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first sentence he says: "the best personality predictor of politicaly correct beileve , cause we have done this study, though it is not published yet.." hmm interesting.

  • @tumishoramodisa9602
    @tumishoramodisa9602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:52 Peterson already knew about the authoritative response to infectious disease's (aka covid) 5 years ago!!! wow

  • @justincrosby9992
    @justincrosby9992 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Good and Evil is based on perception and survival.

    • @crzyeightch264
      @crzyeightch264 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not exactly true. Evil has an element of malevolence. If you have decide to kill another through a rationale that that person is a perceived threat, and you do it from behind and slitting their throat. Fair enough, not pretty but possibly necessary. However, if you put a mirror in front of your victim so he can watch himself die, that's Evil. not much room for a different perception there.

    • @justincrosby9992
      @justincrosby9992 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've never heard of someone killing their victim in front of a mirror. You're arguing just to argue. And even still. What if that person killed your entire family in front of you. Then left you to die. Then you came back and killed that dude in front of a mirror so he can watch himself die...just like he did to you. Is that evil? To me i think it's justified good.

  • @killingtramps
    @killingtramps 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Automobiles scream autonomy initially until the total dependency on fuel tied to fiat ponzi that costs a 3rd of the average persons salary. that's how they get you. By giving you what appears to be a gift but instead are manacles

  • @GJBarreda
    @GJBarreda 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    fascinating

  • @BobBob-eg3wu
    @BobBob-eg3wu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stoned people must love this shit.

  • @fategg6998
    @fategg6998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was seven minutes in when i realised he was irish

    • @fategg6998
      @fategg6998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      human being on earth oh dang fr??

  • @aaronjohnstone2800
    @aaronjohnstone2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    deep

  • @IceCold11235
    @IceCold11235 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is the poisonus snake a metaphor for something that attacks people? Poisonus snakes dont hunt humans. A wolf, or a crocodile I could understand.

    • @hujiko44745278184
      @hujiko44745278184 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      they did when our species
      lived in trees

    • @ianwilliamson5
      @ianwilliamson5 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      UH SIR MMMMMMMMM *BREETHES DEEPLY* * TIPS FEDORA* MMMMMMMMMS IRRRR I BELIEVE *DIGESTS MTN DEW* THAT YOU MEAN TO SAY *BELCH* OUR COMMON ANCESTORRRR

    • @armara70
      @armara70 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      IceCold11235 A snake was a very real threat for ancient man. The fact of the insidious nature of its threat, say lying in tall grass waiting to be stepped on by someone not careful, makes it more analogous than the obvious threat of a bear or tiger.

    • @Justyn219
      @Justyn219 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this person is being ignant.

    • @beastmasterbg
      @beastmasterbg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      back then when people were in jungles and oxygen levels were so high which made:
      gigantic deep jungles and gigantic snakes lizard and it really was hunt or be hunted at maximum level
      the snake was the most feared because you could sleep in a tent and die from a big python killing you while you sleep ,or just be bitten by a small highly venomous snake while walking and die instantly or slowly
      so yeah snakes were the most dangerous and feared

  • @chryzlerOCD
    @chryzlerOCD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jordan “and you might say” Peterson

  • @malevolentntt8155
    @malevolentntt8155 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Peterson has a minuscule problem here. Where he uses order associated with the “right”, the fact is that both schools of thought are rigid at the extremes. Difference lies in the overall attitude. Divergence appears where one prefers exploration and inclusion, while other is dedicated to a routine and its continuance at all costs.

  • @PordanBJeterson
    @PordanBJeterson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not good to be evil.

  • @visionwarrior777
    @visionwarrior777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this frank talk..... hmm......somebody clearly went out of their way to change the format of how this video is posted/seen. The tab has been taken away whereby you can't save this video into your library. What's up with that? You can like, dislike, share, but the next tab is gone, the one you click on to "save" the video into your account/personal video library. That's a little fishy? Somebody doesn't want us to be able to come back and watch again or reference? WTF?

  • @charliejeans2413
    @charliejeans2413 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    deviant' is used to classify people as not complying with gynos. 'she's a feminists' this will become a bad thing.

  • @Keldaj
    @Keldaj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's wild how Joe rogan doesn't discuss topics about the right doing those things to the left in the same way, as if the right or conservatives don't fit the same rules as a non thinking collective of people, just like the left does, but I guess that's just how it is.
    i complain about accountability all the time and how people will lie about their true intent, so I wont' i've done it before.....and I recognize that I have. but I recognized it and I have the ability to become a truly better human being because of my awareness being capable of turning on my self. I can become better. whereas a person who continues lying to themself can't.

  • @mrsquishyboots
    @mrsquishyboots 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to destroy communism; show an episode of Dallas.

  • @akbarj.6867
    @akbarj.6867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah keep staring at your phone like you actually understand what he says. Hang in there.

    • @titansfitness3393
      @titansfitness3393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol... Seriously😂😂😂😅😅😅😅

  • @Fordemups
    @Fordemups 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow

  • @Crackhouts
    @Crackhouts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hitler was both open and orderly? In the words of Rick James, "Cocaine is a hell of a drug".

    • @iamjurell
      @iamjurell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Stalin was conscientious and disorderly. In the words of my grandmother,' Alcoholism is a motherfucker.'
      Dan Carlin did a great podcast on the hypothetical - and maybe theoretical - effects of drug use on the course of history.

  • @Kenny-qe4zx
    @Kenny-qe4zx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've always pondered good and evil, when you take yourself out of the human perspective and imagine seeing certain phenomenon from the perspective of the solar system or universe things don't seem so black and white, for instance when the sun explodes and destroys all matter and life is it evil or good as the same explosion will make way for new life or possibilities, it was also always doomed to end so it the sun good or evil, this line of thinking leads me to the idea that good and evil don't actually exist they are just human creations

    • @jaymiddleton1782
      @jaymiddleton1782 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kenny Willis you're right. there is no good and evil, it's an abstraction applied to reality.
      so we can't be biologically hardwired to purport things that don't exist.

    • @RDstar75
      @RDstar75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how old are you?

    • @26adex
      @26adex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Star explodes because its dying, not because it wants to destroy something, dying is not immoral
      Also sun doesn't have dreams, emotions, thoughts and motivations, so it can't be good or evil because you need those in order to be moral or immoral.
      People who murder others are clearly evil. Don't compare things that have nothing in common, because you apear as someone from r/im14andthisisdeep

    • @quentindowney9897
      @quentindowney9897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sun doesn’t pay taxes or rent or partake in trade. It’s how we survive. It’s the human experience we get while living

  • @MC_Hammerpants
    @MC_Hammerpants 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my wife left me

  • @jonasdamion1627
    @jonasdamion1627 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow poor joe cant do any of this

  • @0Fidel0
    @0Fidel0 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pro-Anti-Violence ... classic! :D

  • @markharmon4963
    @markharmon4963 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Automobiles are not a symbol of individual independence. They require, roads, gas stations, skilled mechanics, a governing set of road rules and safety standards. A diamond ring screams, " I do not care about the rest of you," to the people.

  • @JaimeG88
    @JaimeG88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stop watching porn.

  • @slayinsaiyan5042
    @slayinsaiyan5042 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ha first

  • @ProliantLife
    @ProliantLife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jordan the west hasn’t been around for thousands of years i mean civilized Europeans didn’t come about until around 1200 bc. Very late to the party

  • @casey3506
    @casey3506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peterson is R. BRAND in a three piece suite, both geeks no matter which way you look at em and your choice in guests gettin boring. Just sayin.

  • @Nic_AI
    @Nic_AI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moral of the story: never punch a nazi, hug a nazi!

    • @willu842
      @willu842 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine how dumb you have to be where THIS is your take after watching the video

  • @SuburbanConan
    @SuburbanConan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy vs Hitchens would've made a top selling ppv...if God didn't kill Hitchens first of course...

  • @staceyjohnson9185
    @staceyjohnson9185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to know this guy's view on torturous, murdering pedophiles. Can I please have a moral opinion as them being the "others"? I'll have to listen to more of his philosophies, very interesting guy.

    • @staceyjohnson9185
      @staceyjohnson9185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      PoofyKittyPants And I'd tell him he's full of shit then.

    • @PoofyKittyPants
      @PoofyKittyPants 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch out folks we have an ubermench.

    • @staceyjohnson9185
      @staceyjohnson9185 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaahhhh I see what you are, "PoofyKittyPants".......nice try.

    • @PoofyKittyPants
      @PoofyKittyPants 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know the first step to becoming murderous is thinking that you are above other people.

    • @PoofyKittyPants
      @PoofyKittyPants 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh nice of you to deign to give me your permission to have an opinion.

  • @michaelveroukis1126
    @michaelveroukis1126 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a fan of Jordan Peterson! Having said that, his tackling of this question is less than flattering to his IQ! when Joe posed the question of the evolutionary basis he went on a rambling tirade of his views with the absence of facts that usually accompany his answers! The complexity of good vs evil cannot be properly debated by his over -simplification of predatory vs maternaly agreeable behaviour! He lost himself in his attempt to answer the question and kept coming back to it primarily because he knew he did not adequately respond! It was hard to watch! Dear doctor, please do not let your ego surpass your intellect! Celebrity status and vanity do have their pitfalls! Not everything you espouse will be taken as gospel!

  • @kaysi768
    @kaysi768 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    keep giving the right reasons to be hateful and while bringing up very slight cases like Berkeley

    • @brettvv7475
      @brettvv7475 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ComicBookGuy Henderson _Slight_ cases? Good grief. Do you think this very intelligent clinical psychologist somehow doesn't _actually believe_ what he himself is saying? That is fucking moronic.