The "democratic state" that delegates doing justice to gangs!... I'm Italian and rid of occupiers/squatters can take up to 10 years. The problem is that both land lords and occupiers are right. It has to be the state to guarantee to those people a house. In Denmark if you want to buy a house you have dimostrate you live there! So no room for speculation, AirB&B, etc. Cities must be for citizens primarily then for tourist. Tourists can book an hotel otherwise they can stay at home.
As a expat looking to invest in property in Barcelona, I have no qualms with hosting a family or person in a empty home. The problem is, if I buy an apartment and go on vacation to let say see friends in Brussels for 2 weeks and return to find people staying in my home. I now have to fight legally to get them removed. If I had a empty flat I wasn't using I'd gladly let a family use it but that leaves a ton of liability that not even a contract would fix. The Government needs to produce affordable housing or begin a program for it. Like a section 8 voucher program that empty home owners are obligated to accept.
Exactly, the liability that comes with it for you, requires contracts and payments. It's added responsibility for both sides. It's not just like giving a bag of rice to help someone....
there is a need for strong public housing.. i feel for the people who need housing which really is a very fundamental human need but we also have to think about the guy like the shop owner who can't use his for more than a year and he seems to be a normal everyday person ( not Elon rich ) ...
We need a stop to real estate speculation. Houses cannot be seen as an investment. It should be allowed to buy just a single house if you can demostrate you are living there. So, no AirB&B et similia. And tourists? There are hotels !
@@markwhitethorn6743 agree with you on pone part: there are hotels for tourists. But speculation should be always allowed. Keep in mind that most of speculators keeps losing on their investment, so here if the market teaches a good lesson.
@@FreeInPanama banks which speculated in subprimes were saved with public money, people who were in-depth with the same banks they loose their houses. It has always been talked about the free market but when there are economic lost for these big groups has to be the state to intervine. No, sorry! The state has to hugely limit the speculation for the sake of everyone .
@@markwhitethorn6743 Not everyone can afford to buy a house, thus landlords provide a critical service to provide housing for such people. You’re basically advocating for corporations running the rental market then? Not too smart
I went to Barcelona for an internship, nobody give me a room for 2 months so I have to go the a bad apartment. They were Okupa and I wasn’t know that. For staying nearly 2 months on 15 September polices came to house and kick out us xd. I explained the situation and they said they are sorry for me but they can not do anything for me. In that time I said okay this is really shitty city. It is not safe, there is no rules for protecting people and they don’t like tourists. Maybe Barcelona can be a good city to visit but for living? Hell no.
Cities should be for citizens first, buying a house should be limited to just 1 unit per person if she/he proves it is place where she/he actually lives.
It is disgraceful to see those thugs making money by harming poor people. That guy did not have a knife at all. May that bastard who runs that outfit get exactly what he deserves. So great to see such great activists working to protect the less fortunate. Decent housing is a human right.
I mean those dudes were taking over another persons hard earned business, someones livelihood that they invested in. How do you like it after you come back from vacation for a month, and there are junkies staying in your house refusing to move?
@@cristodimarti201 but thats not the same case. They were in an empty shop Wanting to start a small business is not the same as owning multiple houses to rent on AirBnB. He had never been able to use the shop so he had every right to ask someone to get them out and we do not know anything about the knife situation since that person wasn't showed on camera.
@@mina0653 there are not "empty shops". In this case the shop had an owner you wanted to get back his property and do something with it. So you have a little bit messed-up the main principles here...
Those guys are provide a necessary service that the police and the justice system are either unwilling or unable to do. The person who bought the properties that are being squatted don’t get a break on their mortgages and insurances while the squatters are living there for free. Housing is not a human right when you are violating other people’s rights to obtain such housing. You’re advocating for anarchy, fool.
If you can't pay the rent, get out. I don't understand what "rights" the squatters are defending...if everyone has a "right" to a house, why am I paying a mortgage? And when my mortgage is paid off, it will have taken me 15 years of deprivation and hard work to earn what a squatter gets for free? No way. Let the protesters' next squat be a jail cell.
@markwhitethorn6743 if you work hard and buy 2 houses, it is your RIGHT to do with them as you wish. STEALING such property should NOT be a right (but unfortunately in Spain it is, for all practical purposes - a DISGRACE).
@@markwhitethorn6743lol you can have how many houses you want if you work hard for them. Its your property and noone can force some weird laws on you telling we need to have one house. Life is brutal and unfair. Some have more some less. You cant make life equal for everyone. We dobt live in either socialism nor communism system
I would squat a BUILDING belonging to a bank but not a privately owned premises, a good way of finding a bank property is to dress up smart and get viewings through a ESTATE AGENTS specializing in bank repossessions!!!!
During the pandemic, the federal and local governments in the US placed a moratorium on rents. Some people who were fully employed during the crisis decided to take advantage of the situation to screw their landlords. One of my tenants was such a person. These people got a break on paying rents for almost 2 years while the bank and the insurance companies gave the landlords no such break. In a sense they were nothing but squatters
Furthermore, every business is a risk. You should have been saving up for hard times. If you can’t handle the risk, don’t have a business. Why should you have gotten a pass? You make money off others hard work.
@@magesalmanac6424 The banks make money of landlords hardwork so your comment is moronic.Infact tenants should be the one to take risks of paying rent while unemployed.
It started being a common practice in Barcelona beginning the year 2008 during the economic crisis, unfortunately it’s an expensive market for the money the average person makes a month in a minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage. In the apartment building I used to live the front building was entirely occupied by Ocupas, and they where a nuisance to everyone that lived near them they where NiNI’s (they didn’t work nor study, and the had an illegal pot farm in the building) but if they were nice people like the pensioner couple and the gardener I wouldn’t mind they occupied the building, they need to live somewhere, and the banks kept repossessing the apartments but not putting them back on a market with an affordable rent or price to sell it, they wanted to charge even more than what they truly were valued.
Let the market decide for how much the apartment are being rent. If the owners do not find anyone interested in renting it out to, then they lower the price. Government stepping-in always causes unexpected consequences. That is why we have broken regions like California, Detroit, etc. Allowing people live and not pay for that is pushing them into lifestyle when they do not need to work, have lots of time to demonstrate and the vote of every single of them is worth as much as the vote of a business owner who creates job. Of course politicians love it as they can easily promise freebies and the spiral keeps going without any solution. Human nature has always been to get something for nothing. So instead of subsidizing bad behavior, the government should limit itself to enforcing law. If not, let's just enjoy decline 😀
@@outoffashion-ks it is a right but it still cost money. Limber, bricks, concrete, people that build it etc.. I do agree that there should be more small houses for poorer people can afford but those people would need to maintain the place.
Legal housing, legal renting , legal owning. Not illegal squatting for free. If they can do it I can squat in your appartment as well bc housing is a human right.
I saw a narcopiso people group of like 9 smashing into a building in Exismple the other night, huge fight screaming, .I'm leaving this city. A friends apartment building got taken in Sant Antoni last month...it is s fucking disaster this situation.
Europe needs to do what the Soviets did decades ago: build huge, not pretty, but still decent apartment blocks to house as many people as possible. Basically applying the principle of economy of scale to construction.
Part-time gardening wouldn't bring a lot money in any country either, i suppose, and making this whole thing legal is shocking! Study? Go to college? Work full-time? Making an effort? Being financially responsible from early on? Just my two cents!
Houses are not common goods, they are very limited and having a house is a right recognized by all the European constitutions. Buying more than 1 house should be limited. It should be allowed to buy a house if you dimostrate to live there, that is the main place where you live. Cities must be for citizens first, tourists can go to hotels. Different story for holiday villages, they are created from scratch for touristic purpose.
@@corgish my point is that landlords cannot make a living by renting houses or land. In certain nations, and I am not talking about North Korea or Cuba, there is a regulation that impose rent caps and limits to the number of properties a person group can buy.
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The "democratic state" that delegates doing justice to gangs!... I'm Italian and rid of occupiers/squatters can take up to 10 years. The problem is that both land lords and occupiers are right. It has to be the state to guarantee to those people a house. In Denmark if you want to buy a house you have dimostrate you live there! So no room for speculation, AirB&B, etc. Cities must be for citizens primarily then for tourist. Tourists can book an hotel otherwise they can stay at home.
Explain about denmark i live here?
We living now in a very cruel world! Humanity is gone from our hearts!
Now ???? This problem in Barcelona already lasts at least 30 years. So quite long ago not now ...
Capitalism and the nation state gotta go
As a expat looking to invest in property in Barcelona, I have no qualms with hosting a family or person in a empty home. The problem is, if I buy an apartment and go on vacation to let say see friends in Brussels for 2 weeks and return to find people staying in my home. I now have to fight legally to get them removed. If I had a empty flat I wasn't using I'd gladly let a family use it but that leaves a ton of liability that not even a contract would fix. The Government needs to produce affordable housing or begin a program for it. Like a section 8 voucher program that empty home owners are obligated to accept.
Investing in property in Spain is a bad idea.
Exactly, the liability that comes with it for you, requires contracts and payments. It's added responsibility for both sides. It's not just like giving a bag of rice to help someone....
there is a need for strong public housing.. i feel for the people who need housing which really is a very fundamental human need but we also have to think about the guy like the shop owner who can't use his for more than a year and he seems to be a normal everyday person ( not Elon rich ) ...
We need a stop to real estate speculation. Houses cannot be seen as an investment. It should be allowed to buy just a single house if you can demostrate you are living there. So, no AirB&B et similia. And tourists? There are hotels !
@@markwhitethorn6743 agree with you on pone part: there are hotels for tourists. But speculation should be always allowed. Keep in mind that most of speculators keeps losing on their investment, so here if the market teaches a good lesson.
@@FreeInPanama banks which speculated in subprimes were saved with public money, people who were in-depth with the same banks they loose their houses. It has always been talked about the free market but when there are economic lost for these big groups has to be the state to intervine. No, sorry! The state has to hugely limit the speculation for the sake of everyone .
@@markwhitethorn6743
Not everyone can afford to buy a house, thus landlords provide a critical service to provide housing for such people. You’re basically advocating for corporations running the rental market then? Not too smart
I went to Barcelona for an internship, nobody give me a room for 2 months so I have to go the a bad apartment. They were Okupa and I wasn’t know that. For staying nearly 2 months on 15 September polices came to house and kick out us xd. I explained the situation and they said they are sorry for me but they can not do anything for me. In that time I said okay this is really shitty city. It is not safe, there is no rules for protecting people and they don’t like tourists. Maybe Barcelona can be a good city to visit but for living? Hell no.
Listen to this guy!!! Ex-pats, tourists FUCK OFF!! NOT WELCOME you sons of bitches
They should squat those flats used for Air &BB, and holidays flats especially foreign-owned
Cities should be for citizens first, buying a house should be limited to just 1 unit per person if she/he proves it is place where she/he actually lives.
It is disgraceful to see those thugs making money by harming poor people. That guy did not have a knife at all. May that bastard who runs that outfit get exactly what he deserves. So great to see such great activists working to protect the less fortunate. Decent housing is a human right.
I mean those dudes were taking over another persons hard earned business, someones livelihood that they invested in. How do you like it after you come back from vacation for a month, and there are junkies staying in your house refusing to move?
El Salvador, Río....parece que vives muy bien. Pendejo.
@@cristodimarti201 but thats not the same case. They were in an empty shop Wanting to start a small business is not the same as owning multiple houses to rent on AirBnB. He had never been able to use the shop so he had every right to ask someone to get them out and we do not know anything about the knife situation since that person wasn't showed on camera.
@@mina0653 there are not "empty shops". In this case the shop had an owner you wanted to get back his property and do something with it. So you have a little bit messed-up the main principles here...
Those guys are provide a necessary service that the police and the justice system are either unwilling or unable to do. The person who bought the properties that are being squatted don’t get a break on their mortgages and insurances while the squatters are living there for free. Housing is not a human right when you are violating other people’s rights to obtain such housing. You’re advocating for anarchy, fool.
If you can't pay the rent, get out. I don't understand what "rights" the squatters are defending...if everyone has a "right" to a house, why am I paying a mortgage? And when my mortgage is paid off, it will have taken me 15 years of deprivation and hard work to earn what a squatter gets for free? No way. Let the protesters' next squat be a jail cell.
Well... If you have more than one house you should be force to sell them into 1 year. Speculating on houses should be forbidden!
@markwhitethorn6743 if you work hard and buy 2 houses, it is your RIGHT to do with them as you wish. STEALING such property should NOT be a right (but unfortunately in Spain it is, for all practical purposes - a DISGRACE).
@@markwhitethorn6743lol you can have how many houses you want if you work hard for them. Its your property and noone can force some weird laws on you telling we need to have one house. Life is brutal and unfair. Some have more some less. You cant make life equal for everyone. We dobt live in either socialism nor communism system
No mention of price of renting the apartment
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@@rodrigosalasdelgado8711 nice
I would squat a BUILDING belonging to a bank but not a privately owned premises, a good way of finding a bank property is to dress up smart and get viewings through a ESTATE AGENTS specializing in bank repossessions!!!!
During the pandemic, the federal and local governments in the US placed a moratorium on rents. Some people who were fully employed during the crisis decided to take advantage of the situation to screw their landlords. One of my tenants was such a person. These people got a break on paying rents for almost 2 years while the bank and the insurance companies gave the landlords no such break. In a sense they were nothing but squatters
But they had to pay the money back eventually, at least where I live. It wasn’t a freebie it was just totaling up in the background
Furthermore, every business is a risk. You should have been saving up for hard times. If you can’t handle the risk, don’t have a business. Why should you have gotten a pass? You make money off others hard work.
@@magesalmanac6424 The banks make money of landlords hardwork so your comment is moronic.Infact tenants should be the one to take risks of paying rent while unemployed.
It started being a common practice in Barcelona beginning the year 2008 during the economic crisis, unfortunately it’s an expensive market for the money the average person makes a month in a minimum wage or slightly above minimum wage. In the apartment building I used to live the front building was entirely occupied by Ocupas, and they where a nuisance to everyone that lived near them they where NiNI’s (they didn’t work nor study, and the had an illegal pot farm in the building) but if they were nice people like the pensioner couple and the gardener I wouldn’t mind they occupied the building, they need to live somewhere, and the banks kept repossessing the apartments but not putting them back on a market with an affordable rent or price to sell it, they wanted to charge even more than what they truly were valued.
Let the market decide for how much the apartment are being rent. If the owners do not find anyone interested in renting it out to, then they lower the price. Government stepping-in always causes unexpected consequences. That is why we have broken regions like California, Detroit, etc. Allowing people live and not pay for that is pushing them into lifestyle when they do not need to work, have lots of time to demonstrate and the vote of every single of them is worth as much as the vote of a business owner who creates job. Of course politicians love it as they can easily promise freebies and the spiral keeps going without any solution. Human nature has always been to get something for nothing. So instead of subsidizing bad behavior, the government should limit itself to enforcing law. If not, let's just enjoy decline 😀
Just happy I am paying a small land in my town afraid something like this will happen to me
Decent people made homeless via the indifference of society. UK could adopt similar adooting empty buildings.
Housing IS human rights
@@outoffashion-ks it is a right but it still cost money. Limber, bricks, concrete, people that build it etc.. I do agree that there should be more small houses for poorer people can afford but those people would need to maintain the place.
Airbnb ruined affordable housing and the governments allow them to thrive.
Buying a house should be limited to just the one where a person or a family live. No space should be given to speculation! Tourists can go to hotels!
Legal housing, legal renting , legal owning. Not illegal squatting for free. If they can do it I can squat in your appartment as well bc housing is a human right.
I saw a narcopiso people group of like 9 smashing into a building in Exismple the other night, huge fight screaming, .I'm leaving this city. A friends apartment building got taken in Sant Antoni last month...it is s fucking disaster this situation.
Europe needs to do what the Soviets did decades ago: build huge, not pretty, but still decent apartment blocks to house as many people as possible. Basically applying the principle of economy of scale to construction.
This did not work.
Wow life is not easy.
Whither EU ?
Bien Trabajo Señor Jorge, Que se vaya los Ocupantes Illegales ...
Part-time gardening wouldn't bring a lot money in any country either, i suppose, and making this whole thing legal is shocking! Study? Go to college? Work full-time? Making an effort? Being financially responsible from early on? Just my two cents!
There is a unemployment crisis in Spain. Even young educated people are without jobs. Educate yourself before blaming others
Houses are not common goods, they are very limited and having a house is a right recognized by all the European constitutions. Buying more than 1 house should be limited. It should be allowed to buy a house if you dimostrate to live there, that is the main place where you live. Cities must be for citizens first, tourists can go to hotels. Different story for holiday villages, they are created from scratch for touristic purpose.
unless you protect the landlord from rent defaulters, your arguments are totally empty. try stepping into landlord’s shoes
@@corgish my point is that landlords cannot make a living by renting houses or land. In certain nations, and I am not talking about North Korea or Cuba, there is a regulation that impose rent caps and limits to the number of properties a person group can buy.
you're badly misinformed: even in USSR there were renters & landlords (small, of course) - same for NK and Cuba.
what a joke: landlords can't make a living by renting. says who...
this is Podemos doctrine at its worst. 15-18k ppl rallied against it in Barcelona just 2 weeks ago
Por qué los catalanes no pueden hablar en español?
enviar el ejército español para reconquista los provincias rebeldes JA JA JA
Porque cada uno habla la lengua que le da la gana!...
just squat in some empty mansions
Main comment, if you marry that is for life and you make a promise, Good or Bad.
Sad
Why are they wearing masks?
They are brainwashed
más bien, la crisis del dinero y la maldad de las personas codiciosas de dinero...tu problema es que te prestan la casa para las cuotas en el banco