Bono is always calm in these kinda situations. Remember when Lewis lost his left front tire in the last lap, max behind?! Awesome understanding and communication between Lewis and Bono.
@@leoclements8017 yeah it’s very understandable, but some (more experienced) drivers can handle that and stay cool, so they can make the right decisions. But again: for a 21 year old fighting for his first GP win, very understandable.
@@leoclements8017 ALL drivers needed to concentrate and he was the only one with Stroll to yell to his engineer, and we saw how it ended up for both...
For those who don't appreciate SLH's personality, compare the conversations between him and his engineer, and Lando's. Go back all the way to back when SLH started in F1 if you want
Lewis is ofc the best driver..but please stop comparing him with Lando in Russia..Lando was fighting for his 1st win! Lewis has 99 of them..Lando is in his 3rd year..Lewis is in his 14th year! 11years!!! Lewis knows u need to stay calm in this situation and knows exacvtly how to act..He has had many close race wins
The racists would have a field day ... and they would claim it has nothing to do with race - he was just rude and arrogant.... but they dont complain about anybody else.
@@johncale1849 lulu fans logic = ur racist cos u don't lick ham boots. I guarantee if Ham was a white dude he'd get the same level of hate for being a hypocrite with his vegan go green attitude and his pagani driving + needing to treat bottas like trash. Ham gets less hate for being black since he can use the race and diversity card to escape his unprofessionalism in f1.
Lewis has trust, confidence, consistency and keeps his cool. Lando is immature, overly risk taking, too emotional and shows that he's under pressure. Lewis is the better driver.
the race was already lost then. If he boxed he wouldve been behind hamilton. That's where he lost p2 which im sure he wouldve been just as dissapointed in getting
So Hamilton straight up trusted his team when they told him to pit the second time. He was already in the pit lane before they told him that rain would get worse. Thats teamwork
I'd heard the radio before, but it wasn't until I could see where the cars were that I realised Lewis followed the instruction to pit BEFORE Bono told him more rain was coming. I assumed he only pitted after that information. I am now more impressed as at that point he had the same level of weather understanding as Lando.
Yep, but people are trying to make it out as if that was the deciding factor and McLaren didn't give the same information to Norris. Both drivers appear to have been given almost identical information at similar times during the race and they both made a judgement call based on said information.
Lewis was explicitly told that the rain intensity was increasing 2:36, while Lando was told that the intensity will stay to the end of the race 2:24. Both are different messages, one implies the conditions will worsen and the other implies the conditions will stay how they are at that moment.
@@subsist99 it's funny, when I listen to it in full it sounds like that is in relation to conditions on track at that point (i.e. from no rain to rain). Especially given it then stopped before it then started again, which I think is the bit that Merc got right and McLaren didn't.
@@subsist99 Again you're wrong, that message was after Lewis was already entering the pit and not before. Also, the intensity not increasing doesn't mean the track won't progressively get wetter, I don't think the rain really intensified that much, it's just that the track got wetter as the rain continued and Norris was told as much.
@@peterporkeresq.2817 No. Lewis pits at 6:05. Yes, after he's committed he gets told "there's more coming", but as @subsist99 said, he was also told that earlier.
If you were told it was going to be a light drizzle and not get worse would you give up a race victory? It's important to remember he was given bad information. Even though his team kept saying to box for inters they never told him it was going to get worse. Had the rain actually remained the same he would've won the race.
"we've just gotta stick with it" - who makes the decisions in Mclaren lol. How did they let an inexperienced driver such as lando makes such a pivotal decision.
Because weather radars aren't 100% accurate. Divers feedback is more reliable than the radar. It can only predict but doesn't mean it will happen. Red Bull even let Max made the decision.
@@TheLibermania Merc gambled to trust the radar. is this your first time watching wet race? Alpine relied on Alonso and stayed longer on slicks, so is Ferrari with LeClerc or RB with Perez. and it didn't pay off. Red bull let Max decide if he wants to switch. Ferrari let Sainz decide if he wants to switch and it paid off. That's wet race for ya. Teams gambled on their drivers or the radars. Sometimes they win, sometimes they don't.
Lando engineering : What you think of inters? Lando: Shut up... No... Arrogance, inexperience, uncooperative and being extremely shortsighted was Lando's recipe for his disaster race. This is why Hamilton is a champion and not Lando.
it's his 3rd year and it's his first time at the front of the front. He was being chased by a faster car and had to manage with the rain. Hamilton has experience in this therefore knowing what to do. Lando will definitely learn from this.
The more I watch this I realize Lando's excitement on the possibility of first race win and the team's inexperience and inability to take an assertive decision cost them this race. The team could see the lap times going slower and should have ORDERED Norris to come in not ASKED him his opinion. The kid was too excited and emotional about possibly winning his first race and the team should have been making the decision not leaving it to the driver.
I felt sorry for Lando but after watching this, he has some maturing to do. He displayed a lack of manners to the people trying to help him. Was a tough lesson but hopefully he’ll learn next time. Still I’m sure he will get his win one day.
@@Jamiedebb It is absolutely not uncalled for to tell your engineer to "shut up". Armchair drivers online have zero idea of the pressure Lando was under and when Kimi does it's a meme and everyone laughs.
Look at this from Landos perspective he is leading his first race quicker than Lewis on a dampening track and he is told the rain intensity will stay around the same of course he is never going to risk pitting when there is a chance that Lewis would be quicker on the new inters.
Where was he quicker? Lewis was almost a sec faster than Lando and more than .100s faster in those last laps before the rain. He only slowed down when the track got slippery.
The most experienced was bound to win. Despite the situation, lando should calm down when speaking to his crew. He shouldve pitted when pit crew was warning him of cars going off track and others pitting.
this is off topic but i feel like most F1 fans forget that if you finish 20th in the drivers championship you are the 20th best driver in the world. respect to all f1 drivers.
One the one hand we are very fortunate to have so many great young drivers such as Lando, George, Charles, Pierre and Max but on the other hand that means that some of them they might never become world champions.
Pierre although talented I don't really think he is a championship winning material , I mean he is a beast in alpha tauri , but when he was given the chance in redbull he was massively behind... I mean I feel a champion in making should deliver in any car he is given , I mean example, Russel how he drove in sakhir by outdriving bottas ,Alonso. In ferrari ,
If Lewis truly retires for 2022 this loss will hurt even more for Lando, having and losing the chance to get his first win against the best of all time (statistically)
Experience spoke in this GP! Hamilton knew that he doesnt has all the informations ( if the rain will increase or stop ) and Bono does, so he listens to him and pits.... Lando does the exact opposite
Lando deserved to lose, being that rude with your team even tho they just want to help you get the win. Info is a very important part in anything competitive. Maybe next time mate. About Hamilton, this is why he is the highest paid F1 driver, hes a great driver and has trust into his teams and their ideas
Lando was actually lucky to finish p7. He should have been penalised for missing the pit entry and also incredible car control to not bin it on lap 52.
This video is a boon to Indians who lost coverage from lap 49 onwards. The broadcast was interrupted to play an IPL cricket match. Imagine missing the end of this masterpiece. 😭
The turning point here is the "SHUT UP" from Lando, you can't expect the race engineer to be confident in giving orders after that, Lewis was calm never shouted so for Bono it wasn't a problem to force Lewis into the pits
Totally agree with this- putting myself in Will Joseph's shoes, I wouldn't know what to tell my driver and when after that. Whilst I can see how stressful this situation must have been for Lando, I think he could have communicated in a much better way.
The difference in communication is insane. Lando cuts his communication in stress, while Hamilton and Bono still talk. When Lewis is informed he can pit, and stay ahead of Max, he decides that finishing on top of Max is more important than risking a crash, which would be big blow against his title chances, meanwhile, Norris is unwilling to let go of a first time 1st place finish over a much more secure 2nd-3rd finish.
A big differentiator between Lewis and Lando's outcome in this race was communication. There is a clear ease between Lewis and his engineer. Lando on the other hand was always SO very HARSH with his engineer. The guy's voice seemed to tremble every time he came on to give a new piece of information. I think Lando was a little too greedy and got blinded by the possibility of victory shutting
Must have been massively stressful for Lando, knowing he had to hold off Lewis and be absolutely perfect in the slippery conditions for a few more laps to win. A real heartbreaker but I’m sure he’ll get his win.
It's not that honestly. A man about to win his first race wasn't ready to succumb to circumstances and paid the price for it. Hope this would be a learning curve for him ❤️
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 nah man, that's greedy and devalorising of team's advices, he's not the only one looking for a win, all of his team and a lot of workers are.
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 it wasnt his fault the team didnt tell him the rain would get worse in fact they specifically said it would stay constant, as opposed to merc who told lewis it was getting worse which it was
All he needed to hear to be sure he would win, maybe. Assuming the video is accurate as far as timing of radio messages, then that call happened after Hamilton went on inters anyhow so it wouldn't have influenced Merc tire decisions in any way.
The funny thing is: I expected Lewis to stay out. But Bono played it classy. Lewis was told: Bottas pitted, verxtappen pitted, Norris may have pitted! That sealed the deal. In this instance, the team had to convince the drivers because there was only 4 laps to go. And somehow I don’t feel bad for Norris. He didn’t give his team a chance to convince him. He literally shut them down.
@@RealLubba you are right!!! The call to stay out is almost 2nd nature to these drivers especially in the circumstance that these two were in!! That’s why the team strategists are so crucial. The call to pit had to be conveyed taking into account the driver’s personality and triggers..
Did you not hear the engineer tell him the rain wouldn’t intensify? While Bono told Lewis that it would get worse! Whoever was looking at the weather radar is the problem. Lando was never told the rain would increase.
He's one of the most underrated people in Mercedes. It's no wonder Lewis is so successful when you match his talent with Bono's man management and relationship with Lewis.
As much as we are bored seeing Lewis win, wins like these show why him and Mercedes have won all those titles. In critical situations they usually come up with the best decisions, excepting a few.
I don’t think so. The reason why It look like they don’t make many mistakes is because they don’t need to make any decisions in the past. They are so far ahead of the rest that it doesn’t really matter what they do, they will finish first. Only this year they have decent competition and as you can see, they do make mistakes.
@@kongyiu 2017-2018 I don’t wanna be that guy but I’m gonna be that guy Ferrari took it to Mercedes and people have somehow forgotten how close seb was to catching Hamilton plus if seb was up against the terrible starting 2016 Hamilton he probably wld have won…people don’t realise Hamilton wasn’t always so consistent he had to step up his game and he did… go back a few seasons and watch mate
More than driving experience, which is key for sure, what this shows is the difference on team engineering mentality. One side asserts to his driver, a multiple world champ at that, that he must pit. On the other hand, McLaren run with his driver on track feeling until it was too late. Certainly room for growth for Lando and the team.
Yeah 100%. Mercedes knew the had to overrule Hamilton, they have the weather radar and they know more than him about what's coming. McLaren needed to be way firmer with Lando and basically tell him he's coming in for new boots.
Yeah after he yelled to them to shut up? Nah this in my opinion is on Norris. He couldnt handle the pressure. Hamilton at no point sounded pressured even though it was to gain his 100th.
@@xtscarfacem8255 Im not saying is not on Norris fault, I agree on that, the inexperience failed him here. But taking that aside, the team should being more firm and tell him to just box instead of asking. Even the more knowing your driver is still young.
I understand that it's heat of the moment, but I really hate when drivers tell engineers to shut up. It's incredibly unprofessional and rude to the only dude who's got your back for the entire race.
The thing is engineers won't mind that. drivers are driving 200-300 kmph and engineers are just sitting there comfortably in a chair. So they drivers tend to be more aggressive and many times they are get along very well outside the circuit
@@janudapannila3317 comfortable chair or not, anyway the engineer is not just there drinking a tee while talking. Those guys are checking a hundred of different data. In the video of Max's 5 finals laps, you can really appreciate all the info that guy is handling and giving to the driver: lap times of him and other racers, when he will get the car in front, how many, forecast and slippery turns... All that info was given in only 1 lap time. Plus the command of going into the box to change tires. Stress is on both sides of the mic the same amount, just drivers are the ones you see on tv
The difference between engineers is clear, but still Norris was a bit childish with the emotions. I'm sure he will learn from this and come back stronger!! Go Lando!
@Magical The problem here wasn't the decision, was the yelling and telling his engineer to shut-up when he was just trying to help. This childish behavior, might have contributed to the McLaren engineer giving less and less information to comply with Lando request. Lando was acting as a solo man on the last 10 laps and not even considering anything he was being told. You won't win F1 that way.
Yeah, now that we can hear the full audio, it's clear that Norris was a bit caught in the emotions. That's the difference between him and Lewis at the end. Lewis is calm and collected, although bickering with his engineer, but Norris was in the wrong mental
I'm thinking of Hockenheim 2018 when cars started spinning left and right but Gasly was the only that pitted for full wets and went to the very back of the grid... BTW, AlphaTauri's weather reports are still backwards
I think two laps after his first slip, would have been perfect. cause he was still quite fast on most of the track when bottas pitted. but exactly the lap that Verstappen pitted the clouds seemed to cover the entire track and were quite dark. that's when the team should have. realized the time was right. just ahead of hamilton. and I think that if Lando goes in, hamilton would have tried to go for it which would have cost him for sure.
@@Adjudicator1 having that kind of behavior have no excuse. trash, people who know attitude will never do that especially to his own teammates who fully support him. such a shame i have to say
Was a fan of norris when he came into F1 but over the last few years he just comes across as a spoild kid. He needs to stop throwing his toys out the pram and listen to what his team his saying. Plus he will never win a championship with mclarean they used to be such a great team. Them and williams went from 100 % to 0 so quick 🙁
2:25 I think this is the pivotal moment, Landos engineer saying the rain will remain the same (edit: they were both saying it wasn’t raining much at that point), Hamilton’s telling him the intensity will increase. I feel that this was the key for Lando choosing to try and stick to slicks until the end unfortunately, although he definitely should’ve listened to his engineer later on when he was asked about inters
It was a very unclear message tbh, yes the intensity will stay the same, but that means its still going to be raining and coming down with the same intensity, Mercedes on the other hand said intensity is increasing which means still going to be raining but getting heavier and worsening the conditions, both messages were unclear but Mercedes message made the most sense
in hindsight, you could say they made all the wrong calls and everything, but deep down with the uncertainty, lando made the right call to do the opposite of hamilton since once hamilton boxed he already covered the gap to lando if he boxed. Mclaren had no option but to gamble staying out and not getting caught so that lando gets the win. But unfortunately it rained more. If Lando had boxed he would have had a chance to be in a higher position but what can you do, sometimes in f1 you risk it for the biscuit
@@nm-1-m159 Merc were clearer but also had nothing to lose and everything to gain . They also wanted to cover Max who had pitted so he could not overtake. Whereas the team at the front its much more difficult. Not easy and lots of teams and drivers were not sure that the weather would change. One of those things
Indeed, and his relationship with Will Joseph clearly needs work. Telling him to shut up discourages communication at a time in the race when relaying information, and having a conversation is paramount.
I think you also have to understand though, he was heart broken, and h Eli’s young, he’s got a lot to learn. I think any driver in that situation would be angry, frustrated and all sorts of negative emotions. It’s hard to judge Norris' character by a situation like this where he is still learning to trust in the process. Give it a few years, who know maybe we can see this sort of thing again and see his reaction, we live and learn
@@Rebel257 McLaren literally told him "we don´t expect the intensity of this rain to change" .... " what do you think about inters?". It´s mainly McLaren that messed up by not telling him to box but asking him. That´s what Mercedes did right.
@@robspanjersberg9972 I think Bottas was one of the first guys to pit for inters and 100% before Verstappen. Great decision by Mercedes, made lewis won the race and Bottas P5 was unbelievable. Also, Lewis ignored the call the first time else he would have also pitted before Verstappen.
5:20 if you think someone who talks to their team like this deserved to win your just a stan. I like Lando but you're in a gowns man sport with real life risk. You should act the part, this isn't the first time I've heard something like this from him and this is just childish. Stress and pressure are apart of the game. I don't feel sorry for him losing this win. He need to come back better, take accountability or he'll lose respect from the people in the team. I lost some respect for him today.
I agree 100%. A lot of people here are saying his team should've done more but they literally told him "it's getting very wet, a lot of cars are going off track" and he told them to shut up. He also told his team "no we need to commit to staying on track" so it's very clear he wasn't going to change his mind. This is Landos fault 100% and I've also lost a lot of respect for him but that started last year when he asked his team "what is Carlos trying to be a hero or something?" When Carlos went off into the barriers. He sounds like a spoiled child which is sad because I really liked him at first.
Gosh enough of this backseat drivers stuff, yes it wasn’t ideal - that is unless if you can prove to me you can drive in 300km/h while having someone constantly talks into your ears in this stressful environment - Lando is just 21, be easy on him, he’s already showing some amazing talents.
@@standdbyme honestly a dumb thing to say, the reason these drivers are in F1 is because they've proven they CAN do all the things you mention. That's why they're paid the big bux. I don't need to be a mechanic to know when a car doesn't run and I don't need to be an F1 driver to see when a driver made a bad mistake. He's getting too cocky and he deserved this, hopefully next time he doesn't tell his team to shut up and listens to the advise.
Everyone making excuses for Lando, but when you hear the full radio he was extremely immature and borderline selfish, and that's why he lost. The team was giving Lando respect as a decision maker and that was a mistake also
If Hamilton spoke to his engineer the way Norris did here there would be uproar from his hate club. All the comments haters make about Hamilton, or Verstappen or whoever with regards to how they behave in and out of the cars, they're all like it, it's competitive determination at 200mph. They don't have time to be nice, they only have time to be blunt and to the point. Engineers all know this, and will be used to dealing with fiery drivers.
Well said. In my opinion there should be no comment section on TH-cam, as most of the comments are from trolls. It's a shame that F1 now has the same sort of fans as football fans.
@@davidbrown8517 it’s not so much the fans in general it’s a small group mostly younger people that grew up in this culture of hating on each other instead of applauding greatness
What mclaren didn't realize is that Mercedes would always react to verstappen. Even if boxing for inters would have been the wrong call, ham and ver would be on the same tyres, with ham having 50 sec lead. That way ham would always finish ahead of ver. Even when it would mean ham would full outside of podium , it would be still worth champsionship wise.
Maybe but Bottas pitted before Verstappen so maybe they had data on that to go on aswell as Verstappen pitting just confirming what they would do for hamilton
@@caesar485 no, norris waited 2 laps after hamilton had pitted, if he hd pit the lap right after he would have end 2, therefore also lewis if he had pit 1 lap after he would have finished still ahead of max
Both of them wanted to stay (which is somehow understandible) the team here made a huge difference..Lewis was informed about weather, that Max is piting, his engineer literally ordering Lewis to pit even tho he said the track is geting dry..if Merc didn't push Lewis to pit and listened to him like Mclaren did to Lando this would've been a different story and we would had Max wining from the last place lol
But radars aren't 100% accurate. RB let Max decide if he wanted to switch or not because they weren't sure ether and fortunately Max made the right decision. There was a moment when Will advised Lando that track was already very slippery and Lando's reply was "Yeah shut up!". I think if Lando was composed and didn't let his temper tantrum took him over, he would've have made a better decision like Max. This what I heard from the full comms in chronological ordor. Will advised Lando that DRS has been disabled. It means track is getting slippery. Will advised Lando that some cars were pitting for interns. Will advised Landothat track was already VERY slippery and lot of cars were going off track. Lando's reply "Yeah! Shut up!". Will asked Lando again if he would like to switch to intern Lando angrily replied "NO!".
The difference was, Lando yell "yeah shut up!" and Lewis didn't. If Lewis yell too, his engineer wouldn't push him and listened to him just like Mclaren engineer did to Lando.
@@skiiwine9973 that's the thing, for Max it was a no-brainer to pit because he had nothing to lose. It was always going to be a difficult decision for whichever team was in P1 at the time. Think about it, even Lewis had nothing to lose really because had the conditions stayed the same after he had pitted, he was still going to finish second
lewis and max did not get emotional and lose the plot lol. lando was snipping at his engineer to shut up when he shoulda understood that the engineers input was gonna be pivotal to a successful race. a calm, level headed approach was what was needed but it is something lando will surely learn from and i'm sure he'll get his first win very soon.
Honestly I get it's disappointing Lando lost but I don't understand this trend of everyone feeling bad for him. He cost himself the race. He didn't lose because of a freak failure or something. Big fan of McLaren but there's nothing to feel bad for. He made a mistake due to his inexperience and likely learned a valuable lesson.
I agree. He was thinking too far ahead instead of lap by lap. What made me angry was the lack of communication between the team and Lando. We’ll get them next time
I feel bad for him too. If you listen to the radio messages he gets, they tell him it will not get worse (when 3/4 of the track was still dry) and that's what he based his decision to stay out on. The team should have called him in, instead of leaving the choice to him. So I can't blame him for making that call.
I don’t think it’s really inexperience. Alonso, Perez, Leclerc and Vettel all stayed on the tyres too long and they’re not exactly inexperienced. Alonso was told the same as lando that the rain would not get worse
@@leroybrandy6815 I think it’s because he had everything to lose if he slid off and crashed. Lando was willing to take extra risk because he isn’t in a tight battle for the championship.
“He is getting overtaken by Mazepin on inter”…this sentence is brutal for any F1 driver
except for Maz.
@@4ntoCatch who was un-lapping himself from being 3 laps down to only 2 laps down... 21st driver all the way.
this was the turning point
@@kazama2212 Hes the GOAT from now on.
@@king_zapp i know . joking as the comment was ANY F1 driver,
Bono is always calm in these kinda situations. Remember when Lewis lost his left front tire in the last lap, max behind?! Awesome understanding and communication between Lewis and Bono.
Yea, the onboard with radio on that lap is amazing to watch
10 seconds to Verstappen....
8 seconds to Verstappen...
7 seconds to VERSTAPPEN!
He's right up there with GP in terms of pure class.
The difference of experience in these exchanges is brutal. Long way to go Lando
Felt really bad for Lando during race but when his engineer told him cars are slipping everywhere and he yelled “Shut up” that’s when he lost
Yes but it's because he needed to concentrate and not spin out
@@leoclements8017 yeah it’s very understandable, but some (more experienced) drivers can handle that and stay cool, so they can make the right decisions. But again: for a 21 year old fighting for his first GP win, very understandable.
@@leoclements8017 yes, butbthey are your team helping yoy
@@leoclements8017 ALL drivers needed to concentrate and he was the only one with Stroll to yell to his engineer, and we saw how it ended up for both...
@@leoclements8017 that's why they wanted him to pit to not spin out..
For those who don't appreciate SLH's personality, compare the conversations between him and his engineer, and Lando's. Go back all the way to back when SLH started in F1 if you want
SLH?
@@AwesomepowPOW Sir Lewis Hamilton
Lewis is ofc the best driver..but please stop comparing him with Lando in Russia..Lando was fighting for his 1st win! Lewis has 99 of them..Lando is in his 3rd year..Lewis is in his 14th year! 11years!!!
Lewis knows u need to stay calm in this situation and knows exacvtly how to act..He has had many close race wins
Slh? Who’s that
@@elfranko97 Sir Lewis Hamilton
When he shout shut up, it's basically end.
Imagine the outrage if Lewis says “yeah shut up Bono”
My thought exactly 💯
The racists would have a field day ... and they would claim it has nothing to do with race - he was just rude and arrogant.... but they dont complain about anybody else.
I mean, 70% of people didn't like that Lando told his engineer to shut up so...
@@johncale1849 lulu fans logic = ur racist cos u don't lick ham boots.
I guarantee if Ham was a white dude he'd get the same level of hate for being a hypocrite with his vegan go green attitude and his pagani driving + needing to treat bottas like trash. Ham gets less hate for being black since he can use the race and diversity card to escape his unprofessionalism in f1.
It’s not about the speed, it’s about the decision
Yes
It's also about the speed of the decision.
@@saturdaysolitude7800 And the speed of the decision to be speedy with decisions
Lewis has trust, confidence, consistency and keeps his cool.
Lando is immature, overly risk taking, too emotional and shows that he's under pressure.
Lewis is the better driver.
07:32 The moment when Lando lost this race. Going by the pit entry and immediately bumping into the rainy-slippy track. Unbelievable! 😨
exactly what i was thinking, if the pit entry were to be 1 turn later he could have decided to go inters on that same lap
the race was already lost then. If he boxed he wouldve been behind hamilton. That's where he lost p2 which im sure he wouldve been just as dissapointed in getting
@@QwErTy-4252 Ham was 20 secs behind Norris at this point. A pit stop took 24 secs, so everything could be possible at this point.
As soon as he passed the pit lane turn, he started getting wheel spin. 🤦♂️ 💀
@@QwErTy-4252 a lot better than p7
2 years later and Norris is still paying for his immaturity. Has not even come close to sniffing a win since and still at 0 for his career.
And rookie Piastri now has a Sprint race win in the same car.
Lando panicked so much, he couldn't stand the pressure from Lewis. His "shut up!" screams confirm this.
Exactly, his lack of experience showed when the pressure was on. Hopefully he learns from this and listens to his team next time.
@@braden2289 he needs to learn some respect
@@MrLillywhite2011 guys listen to my cool team radio i told my mechanic to shut up cause i know best and went on winning my first race. oh wait nvm
He finally did it
So Hamilton straight up trusted his team when they told him to pit the second time. He was already in the pit lane before they told him that rain would get worse. Thats teamwork
“We just got to commit to staying” famous last words
😂😂😂
Reminds me of Sepang with the sudden change of weather.
It’s time to bring back Sepang
yea dude let's go!
I would love to see Sepang back on the calendar. Definitely should be on the calendar over some other circuits
@The champion He was chasing alonso and gaining time lap after lap. He lost control in the end and had to settle for P2
I would to sign a petition to bring back sepang.
Who is here after Lando's win in Miami today?
Lando cost himself the race haha
I'd heard the radio before, but it wasn't until I could see where the cars were that I realised Lewis followed the instruction to pit BEFORE Bono told him more rain was coming. I assumed he only pitted after that information. I am now more impressed as at that point he had the same level of weather understanding as Lando.
Yep, but people are trying to make it out as if that was the deciding factor and McLaren didn't give the same information to Norris. Both drivers appear to have been given almost identical information at similar times during the race and they both made a judgement call based on said information.
Lewis was explicitly told that the rain intensity was increasing 2:36, while Lando was told that the intensity will stay to the end of the race 2:24. Both are different messages, one implies the conditions will worsen and the other implies the conditions will stay how they are at that moment.
@@subsist99 it's funny, when I listen to it in full it sounds like that is in relation to conditions on track at that point (i.e. from no rain to rain). Especially given it then stopped before it then started again, which I think is the bit that Merc got right and McLaren didn't.
@@subsist99
Again you're wrong, that message was after Lewis was already entering the pit and not before. Also, the intensity not increasing doesn't mean the track won't progressively get wetter, I don't think the rain really intensified that much, it's just that the track got wetter as the rain continued and Norris was told as much.
@@peterporkeresq.2817 No. Lewis pits at 6:05. Yes, after he's committed he gets told "there's more coming", but as @subsist99 said, he was also told that earlier.
2:29 First warning for Lando to take the right decision 3:21 second warning 4:49 Blunder begins
3:21 was crucial for me.
Agree. There were a lot of warning signs. He just needed to ask, instead of saying the magic word "Shut up" .
@@overdoze7 right. "Shut up" ruined his race
Lando got what he deserved. He should have listen to his engineer (rather than shouting at him "SHUT UP!") - no sympathy for Lando.
Lando: (Fine HD transmission)
Lewis: (Jumping across multiple dimensions)
That’s his fault for thinking he knew more than everyone else.
If you were told it was going to be a light drizzle and not get worse would you give up a race victory? It's important to remember he was given bad information. Even though his team kept saying to box for inters they never told him it was going to get worse. Had the rain actually remained the same he would've won the race.
@@tarettime9392 but is they say, “box box box” aren’t you suppose to box?
@@morningsidedriverock Yeah but not always especially if you're a ferrari driver
"We finished P7" that line from Will in that tone is enough to understand what happened😔
Un caballero, literalmente, que trabajó por hacer un legado y un niño malcriado que no conoce humildad x nacer en una jaula de oro.
"we've just gotta stick with it" - who makes the decisions in Mclaren lol. How did they let an inexperienced driver such as lando makes such a pivotal decision.
Because weather radars aren't 100% accurate. Divers feedback is more reliable than the radar. It can only predict but doesn't mean it will happen. Red Bull even let Max made the decision.
@@skiiwine9973 So what did Mercedes do? Rely on the Feedback of an experienced 7 time world champion or telling him that it's going to rain more?
Don’t forget McLaren trusting Norris’ decision of which tyre to go on in qualifying is what ultimately got him pole
@@TheLibermania Merc gambled to trust the radar. is this your first time watching wet race? Alpine relied on Alonso and stayed longer on slicks, so is Ferrari with LeClerc or RB with Perez. and it didn't pay off. Red bull let Max decide if he wants to switch. Ferrari let Sainz decide if he wants to switch and it paid off. That's wet race for ya. Teams gambled on their drivers or the radars. Sometimes they win, sometimes they don't.
And how many experienced drivers made the exact same decision? Vettel and Hamilton were two of them...
This loss is largely on mclaren, Lando and his race engineer need to work on their communication.
Lando's shut up costed him the lose
Lando engineering : What you think of inters?
Lando: Shut up... No...
Arrogance, inexperience, uncooperative and being extremely shortsighted was Lando's recipe for his disaster race. This is why Hamilton is a champion and not Lando.
it's his 3rd year and it's his first time at the front of the front. He was being chased by a faster car and had to manage with the rain. Hamilton has experience in this therefore knowing what to do. Lando will definitely learn from this.
@@URL_Night hamilton came second in standings in his first year, and won his wdc in his second year
@@URL_Night Vettel won a race in his first season in the race. norris was a brat
@@Cahit1111 he had a great car
@@Pascaffa okay?
The critical radio communication was Bono's "There's more coming", that swayed it for Lewis to pit.
The more I watch this I realize Lando's excitement on the possibility of first race win and the team's inexperience and inability to take an assertive decision cost them this race.
The team could see the lap times going slower and should have ORDERED Norris to come in not ASKED him his opinion.
The kid was too excited and emotional about possibly winning his first race and the team should have been making the decision not leaving it to the driver.
Bono's words clear and precise which makes it reliable. A driver like Lewis who always consults him time after time will work out.
Lando learned a very valuable lesson: slicks don't work in the rain.
7:01 that's when Lewis knew the race is in the bag
I felt sorry for Lando but after watching this, he has some maturing to do. He displayed a lack of manners to the people trying to help him. Was a tough lesson but hopefully he’ll learn next time.
Still I’m sure he will get his win one day.
agreed, can't believe the 'shut up' bit.
@@Jamiedebb I was taken aback. Was uncalled for. 😐
Hope not
@@Jamiedebb It is absolutely not uncalled for to tell your engineer to "shut up". Armchair drivers online have zero idea of the pressure Lando was under and when Kimi does it's a meme and everyone laughs.
5:20
When Lando turn into Tsunoda
And gets a similar result. Enjoy that one, kid.
so much happened we did not get to see during the race, thanks mr tv director!
He deserved that.... lesson learned.
I thought it got stolen from Lando at the last second, but that was completely Lando’s fault
How exciting these final laps for the last-ever Sochi Autodrom race were.
This is a really cool video. Was tough for Lando, but he lost out to experience on the day.
4:02 you can hear lewis breathing heavily and feel the intensity and stress of the moment
Agreed, only diffrence is that Lewis knows this feeling ALL too well and handled it like the champ he is. Hope Lando takes in this moment.
Look at this from Landos perspective he is leading his first race quicker than Lewis on a dampening track and he is told the rain intensity will stay around the same of course he is never going to risk pitting when there is a chance that Lewis would be quicker on the new inters.
Where was he quicker? Lewis was almost a sec faster than Lando and more than .100s faster in those last laps before the rain. He only slowed down when the track got slippery.
Poor Lando under so much pressure but great job firm both lewis and Bono to maintain their cool and make decision at the best fme
What a shame for Lando. 1 year later he still remembered that pain.
Decisions like this is why Hamilton is a 7 time world champion and has 100 race wins! The GOAT. 🏆💯
Forgot about Hungary?
@@cnc_channel510 Fighting through the field in Hungary was a great example of his fantastic driving ability as well! You are correct.
''YEAH SHUT UP'' 😂 land O WAS CRYING AFTER THE RACE 🤣🤣 ROOKIE
The most experienced was bound to win. Despite the situation, lando should calm down when speaking to his crew. He shouldve pitted when pit crew was warning him of cars going off track and others pitting.
We were all quick to blame Lando for not wanting to pit, but his engineer really didn't make it clear how much was gonna rain..
this is off topic but i feel like most F1 fans forget that if you finish 20th in the drivers championship you are the 20th best driver in the world. respect to all f1 drivers.
Lando can blame only himself
So gutted for Lando but glad we were treated to such drama... In Sochi of all places!
One the one hand we are very fortunate to have so many great young drivers such as Lando, George, Charles, Pierre and Max but on the other hand that means that some of them they might never become world champions.
Pierre although talented I don't really think he is a championship winning material , I mean he is a beast in alpha tauri , but when he was given the chance in redbull he was massively behind... I mean I feel a champion in making should deliver in any car he is given , I mean example, Russel how he drove in sakhir by outdriving bottas ,Alonso. In ferrari ,
@@speeddemon2901 Maybe you are right, i wasn't sure if i should put him alongside the others. I didn't at first but I include him eventually
@@speeddemon2901 I know of people who say "I mean" and "you know" in conversation a lot but I've never seen it in written form...
The pressure of winning his first race led him to P7. Its clearly on him.
If Lewis truly retires for 2022 this loss will hurt even more for Lando, having and losing the chance to get his first win against the best of all time (statistically)
Experience spoke in this GP! Hamilton knew that he doesnt has all the informations ( if the rain will increase or stop ) and Bono does, so he listens to him and pits.... Lando does the exact opposite
This is an example why Lando is not ready yet to become a champion.
I don’t understand why he wouldn’t BOX. When you know Hamilton boxed, you still come out AHEAD
He wouldn't have come out ahead, but he could have saved the podium
i love longer clips like these! MORE
Perfect example of Experienced talent vs inexperienced talent.
Hope best for both's future.
Lando deserved to lose, being that rude with your team even tho they just want to help you get the win. Info is a very important part in anything competitive. Maybe next time mate. About Hamilton, this is why he is the highest paid F1 driver, hes a great driver and has trust into his teams and their ideas
Lando was actually lucky to finish p7. He should have been penalised for missing the pit entry and also incredible car control to not bin it on lap 52.
This video is a boon to Indians who lost coverage from lap 49 onwards. The broadcast was interrupted to play an IPL cricket match. Imagine missing the end of this masterpiece. 😭
Wait I saw the whole race on Star Sports 3. Not HD but still... It's been that way during IPL season.
Indians live in the Americas.
Imagine watching cricket
True 😂😂😂😂 hotstar vale
I was so furious about that, they shamelessly run ads in between laps and now this. What a joke of broadcasters
Engineer: He is getting overtaken by Mazepin on inters.
Lewis: Ok , it's over, we got this...
😂😂😂
I was about to comment about this LOL
🤣hehehe 💯+1%
Ouch 😂😂
Nope funny
The turning point here is the "SHUT UP" from Lando, you can't expect the race engineer to be confident in giving orders after that, Lewis was calm never shouted so for Bono it wasn't a problem to force Lewis into the pits
Yup. He could've got that first grand prix win 😂😂
Totally agree with this- putting myself in Will Joseph's shoes, I wouldn't know what to tell my driver and when after that. Whilst I can see how stressful this situation must have been for Lando, I think he could have communicated in a much better way.
It was a difference between experiences and it’s lesson learned from lando
@@sarabeth7415 What, whilst just arriving at the back of 2 slow cars are you dumb? 😔
Very disappointing to hear him do that. Will hopefully be a big lesson for him. He drove so well, very tough to chuck it away.
The difference in communication is insane. Lando cuts his communication in stress, while Hamilton and Bono still talk.
When Lewis is informed he can pit, and stay ahead of Max, he decides that finishing on top of Max is more important than risking a crash, which would be big blow against his title chances, meanwhile, Norris is unwilling to let go of a first time 1st place finish over a much more secure 2nd-3rd finish.
His attitude lost him a podium place.
@@nathitshabalala5414 exactly my thoughts
@@nathitshabalala5414 his inexperience
Lewis once again showcasing while he’s won 7 titles
Respectfully Hamilton was told weather was going to get worse and Norris was told it would stay the same. This is on McLaren more than Lando Imho
A big differentiator between Lewis and Lando's outcome in this race was communication. There is a clear ease between Lewis and his engineer. Lando on the other hand was always SO very HARSH with his engineer. The guy's voice seemed to tremble every time he came on to give a new piece of information. I think Lando was a little too greedy and got blinded by the possibility of victory shutting
Shows experience one driver with 100 wins , one with 0 , landos time will come
Nervousness coming from inexperience.
Must have been massively stressful for Lando, knowing he had to hold off Lewis and be absolutely perfect in the slippery conditions for a few more laps to win. A real heartbreaker but I’m sure he’ll get his win.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Damm right you 100% right he was to harsh. Is there a penalty for harshness to your partner in the race
The trust between a driver and team is on full display here
It's not that honestly. A man about to win his first race wasn't ready to succumb to circumstances and paid the price for it. Hope this would be a learning curve for him ❤️
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 nah man, that's greedy and devalorising of team's advices, he's not the only one looking for a win, all of his team and a lot of workers are.
You mean the difference in trust ... ;)
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 it wasnt his fault the team didnt tell him the rain would get worse in fact they specifically said it would stay constant, as opposed to merc who told lewis it was getting worse which it was
@@grahamsissons9793 it was his fault mostly, he told the team to shut up and didnt pit when advised, its his inexperience that got him here
'Norris has been overtaken by Mazepin on inters' is all Hamilton needed to hear
All he needed to hear to be sure he would win, maybe. Assuming the video is accurate as far as timing of radio messages, then that call happened after Hamilton went on inters anyhow so it wouldn't have influenced Merc tire decisions in any way.
😂😂😂😂😂
Lando: YEAH SHUT UP!
Engineer (to himself): karma
🤣🤣 true..i like lando but tht was jus RUDE
Lando During Race: SHUT UP
Lando after the race: I'll shut myself up
Engineer (to himself) : I'm going for a coffee.
This is makes me laugh thanks
i mean "karma" is not the best way to describe this, since the team loses with him
Starting to rain, getting slippery, in the lead and Lewis Hamilton just behind you, terrifying...😵
That is why Lando was on the edge, he was under pressure.
Hamilton isn’t that scary when he’s chasing not gonna lie
@@OsmanLiban Really. The number of drivers who have made mistakes while Lewis is on the chase tells you all.
@@OsmanLiban Found Rosberg's other account
i can think of someone more terrifying
The funny thing is: I expected Lewis to stay out.
But Bono played it classy. Lewis was told: Bottas pitted, verxtappen pitted, Norris may have pitted! That sealed the deal.
In this instance, the team had to convince the drivers because there was only 4 laps to go.
And somehow I don’t feel bad for Norris. He didn’t give his team a chance to convince him. He literally shut them down.
I like to believe that, if norris had pitted and Lewis were fighting for his very first win, he would have made the same call as lando now
@@RealLubba you are right!!! The call to stay out is almost 2nd nature to these drivers especially in the circumstance that these two were in!!
That’s why the team strategists are so crucial. The call to pit had to be conveyed taking into account the driver’s personality and triggers..
Norris: Shut up!!!!
@@Trouble0111 I bet he won’t do that again lol
Did you not hear the engineer tell him the rain wouldn’t intensify? While Bono told Lewis that it would get worse! Whoever was looking at the weather radar is the problem. Lando was never told the rain would increase.
I'm a red bull fan, but man Bono is such an excellent engineer. He's so calm and precise.
He's one of the most underrated people in Mercedes. It's no wonder Lewis is so successful when you match his talent with Bono's man management and relationship with Lewis.
@@dod2105 Tbh..
@@dod2105 yup, i watched Russell's Sakhir Mercedes debut video and Bono was managing him so well and he was so calm
He's pro- Bono ; )
But not that red bull's are bad .
Lewis' T cam hurts my eyes with all the jittering 😂
Literally 😂
@@tivelfarrell1855 fr
Forgot to repair it, after Max parked his car on top 😁
Is it the jittering or the winning?
The key to Merc's speed: Quantum voidal spacetime manipulation. FIA have banned it from 2022 onwards.
As much as we are bored seeing Lewis win, wins like these show why him and Mercedes have won all those titles. In critical situations they usually come up with the best decisions, excepting a few.
I don’t think so. The reason why It look like they don’t make many mistakes is because they don’t need to make any decisions in the past. They are so far ahead of the rest that it doesn’t really matter what they do, they will finish first. Only this year they have decent competition and as you can see, they do make mistakes.
Great drive and team effort but most because of Max pitted already.
@@kongyiu thats BS
I am not bored ...
@@kongyiu 2017-2018 I don’t wanna be that guy but I’m gonna be that guy Ferrari took it to Mercedes and people have somehow forgotten how close seb was to catching Hamilton plus if seb was up against the terrible starting 2016 Hamilton he probably wld have won…people don’t realise Hamilton wasn’t always so consistent he had to step up his game and he did… go back a few seasons and watch mate
More than driving experience, which is key for sure, what this shows is the difference on team engineering mentality. One side asserts to his driver, a multiple world champ at that, that he must pit. On the other hand, McLaren run with his driver on track feeling until it was too late. Certainly room for growth for Lando and the team.
Well hard to be assertive when ur driver, who is winning his first race, aggressively tells u to shut up.
Yeah 100%. Mercedes knew the had to overrule Hamilton, they have the weather radar and they know more than him about what's coming. McLaren needed to be way firmer with Lando and basically tell him he's coming in for new boots.
@@whygamewhy Doesnt matter, you have the radar and you know what a lot more about the weather than the dirver, you have to be more firm.
Yeah after he yelled to them to shut up? Nah this in my opinion is on Norris. He couldnt handle the pressure. Hamilton at no point sounded pressured even though it was to gain his 100th.
@@xtscarfacem8255 Im not saying is not on Norris fault, I agree on that, the inexperience failed him here. But taking that aside, the team should being more firm and tell him to just box instead of asking. Even the more knowing your driver is still young.
I understand that it's heat of the moment, but I really hate when drivers tell engineers to shut up. It's incredibly unprofessional and rude to the only dude who's got your back for the entire race.
The thing is engineers won't mind that. drivers are driving 200-300 kmph and engineers are just sitting there comfortably in a chair. So they drivers tend to be more aggressive and many times they are get along very well outside the circuit
Metoo. Hate it. It's getting annoyingly boring all their swearing and arrogancy
@@janudapannila3317 how do you know they don't mind it? Have you asked them?
It's concentration. When I'm immersed and trying hard to concentrate, then I too will shout "shut up".
@@janudapannila3317 comfortable chair or not, anyway the engineer is not just there drinking a tee while talking. Those guys are checking a hundred of different data. In the video of Max's 5 finals laps, you can really appreciate all the info that guy is handling and giving to the driver: lap times of him and other racers, when he will get the car in front, how many, forecast and slippery turns... All that info was given in only 1 lap time. Plus the command of going into the box to change tires. Stress is on both sides of the mic the same amount, just drivers are the ones you see on tv
I’m blown away by how calm and almost amicable Lewis is during such a high stress point of the race.
It's the experience of the 7 times world champion. The G.O.A.T.
@@justinrockmore327 I agree tbf
He is a veteran and a champion, he's been here many times over. Lando was just trying to keep his lead.
Lewis has seen it and done it all. Lando wanted some of the pie too
He had 99 victories. Lando zero. Thats the difference.
The difference between engineers is clear, but still Norris was a bit childish with the emotions.
I'm sure he will learn from this and come back stronger!! Go Lando!
Unlike Lewis, he yells at his engineer
Indeed! The pace is there, just need experience now.
@Magical but Lando has 5 podiums, no? First win, yes
@Magical The problem here wasn't the decision, was the yelling and telling his engineer to shut-up when he was just trying to help.
This childish behavior, might have contributed to the McLaren engineer giving less and less information to comply with Lando request.
Lando was acting as a solo man on the last 10 laps and not even considering anything he was being told.
You won't win F1 that way.
Yeah, now that we can hear the full audio, it's clear that Norris was a bit caught in the emotions. That's the difference between him and Lewis at the end. Lewis is calm and collected, although bickering with his engineer, but Norris was in the wrong mental
as soon as you start going off track you need wet tyres 3:27 - But Norris will learn alot from Sunday
I'm thinking of Hockenheim 2018 when cars started spinning left and right but Gasly was the only that pitted for full wets and went to the very back of the grid...
BTW, AlphaTauri's weather reports are still backwards
He might have pulled it off if it had not started pouring. Also, Hamilton was given a heavy rain report, Norris wasn´t.
The gamble was “it will stop raining”. But you can’t gamble, you need to trust the team
Exactly. Norris had a free pit stop and the worst that would have happened if he switched to inters was finishing 2nd
I think two laps after his first slip, would have been perfect. cause he was still quite fast on most of the track when bottas pitted. but exactly the lap that Verstappen pitted the clouds seemed to cover the entire track and were quite dark. that's when the team should have. realized the time was right. just ahead of hamilton. and I think that if Lando goes in, hamilton would have tried to go for it which would have cost him for sure.
7:00 You know its bad when your getting overtaken by mazepin on inters
yup, i don't know why between Lando and Mclaren team didn't realize it.
Realize about drivers' lap time on inters.
@@dk_noobmaster46 At that point, it was all or nothing. If he pitted, he would have lost first place anyway.
@@MrArcticPOWER Lewis had already gained enough time to be in the lead after only 1 lap on inters, so Norris was in a lose / lose situation.
@@MrArcticPOWER i mean inters lap time by Bottas. Somehow didn't looked for it.
@@MrArcticPOWER would have gotten p2 or p3, better than p8 or p7 i dont rember
Norris was so narrow-minded in the final laps. His “shut up!!!” to the mechanics was way too disrespectful.
Well, Lando Norris is under heavy suppression shock from the pressure of fighting for the win and treacherous weather.
@@Adjudicator1 it's usually under high pressure situations a person shows their true ability and character. Norris still needs to grow up a bit
deserved loss for that lack of respect 4 sure
@@Adjudicator1 having that kind of behavior have no excuse. trash, people who know attitude will never do that especially to his own teammates who fully support him. such a shame i have to say
I hope the team talked to him about that.
Was a fan of norris when he came into F1 but over the last few years he just comes across as a spoild kid. He needs to stop throwing his toys out the pram and listen to what his team his saying. Plus he will never win a championship with mclarean they used to be such a great team. Them and williams went from 100 % to 0 so quick 🙁
Radio, cars are going off
Lando: shut up
Well deserved outcome.
Was acting like a dog under pressure😂😂😂
YUP HAHA! KARMA GOT HIM STRAIGHT UP
It's true. Lacked humility for him.
yep he got what he deserved
Y O U N E E D I N T E R S Y O U I D I O T
Imagine you were Lando and hear from your race engineer “Mazepin will overtake you with Inters”.
Unlucky.
"pastor maldonado has entered the chat"
You say “shut up” like he did😂😅
Can anyone explain what inters mean?
@@whackwhack6554 intermediate tires it like halfway between full wets and slicks so for an intermediate level of rain
@Graham Sissons ohh so its for tires, thank u so much got it.
Lando talking to his team like some random in a gaming lobby.
Makes sense now
😂😂😂
2:25 I think this is the pivotal moment, Landos engineer saying the rain will remain the same (edit: they were both saying it wasn’t raining much at that point), Hamilton’s telling him the intensity will increase. I feel that this was the key for Lando choosing to try and stick to slicks until the end unfortunately, although he definitely should’ve listened to his engineer later on when he was asked about inters
It was a very unclear message tbh, yes the intensity will stay the same, but that means its still going to be raining and coming down with the same intensity, Mercedes on the other hand said intensity is increasing which means still going to be raining but getting heavier and worsening the conditions, both messages were unclear but Mercedes message made the most sense
credit to Bono, he gave clear information even for us the viewers
in hindsight, you could say they made all the wrong calls and everything, but deep down with the uncertainty, lando made the right call to do the opposite of hamilton since once hamilton boxed he already covered the gap to lando if he boxed. Mclaren had no option but to gamble staying out and not getting caught so that lando gets the win. But unfortunately it rained more. If Lando had boxed he would have had a chance to be in a higher position but what can you do, sometimes in f1 you risk it for the biscuit
@@nm-1-m159 Merc were clearer but also had nothing to lose and everything to gain . They also wanted to cover Max who had pitted so he could not overtake. Whereas the team at the front its much more difficult. Not easy and lots of teams and drivers were not sure that the weather would change. One of those things
But then, the track would get wetter and wetter even if it rained at the same rate.
No matter how funny Lando might be at joking moments, he's still very arrogant though.
Indeed, and his relationship with Will Joseph clearly needs work. Telling him to shut up discourages communication at a time in the race when relaying information, and having a conversation is paramount.
And ain't funny under pressure. Wonder if his sm popularity creates that additional pressure
His immaturity and sheltered background definitely comes into view once the polish comes off.
@@wh6055 isnt he british
I think you also have to understand though, he was heart broken, and h Eli’s young, he’s got a lot to learn. I think any driver in that situation would be angry, frustrated and all sorts of negative emotions. It’s hard to judge Norris' character by a situation like this where he is still learning to trust in the process. Give it a few years, who know maybe we can see this sort of thing again and see his reaction, we live and learn
The difference was totally about experience. Also Bono was very assertive and precise.
Mercedes just followed Verstappen , he was pitting and so did Mercedes .
No, Lando was too naive to listen. He should have.
@@robspanjersberg9972 Smart movement
@@Rebel257 McLaren literally told him "we don´t expect the intensity of this rain to change" .... " what do you think about inters?". It´s mainly McLaren that messed up by not telling him to box but asking him. That´s what Mercedes did right.
@@robspanjersberg9972 I think Bottas was one of the first guys to pit for inters and 100% before Verstappen. Great decision by Mercedes, made lewis won the race and Bottas P5 was unbelievable. Also, Lewis ignored the call the first time else he would have also pitted before Verstappen.
5:20 if you think someone who talks to their team like this deserved to win your just a stan. I like Lando but you're in a gowns man sport with real life risk. You should act the part, this isn't the first time I've heard something like this from him and this is just childish. Stress and pressure are apart of the game. I don't feel sorry for him losing this win. He need to come back better, take accountability or he'll lose respect from the people in the team. I lost some respect for him today.
Yea he doesn’t even respect seb
I agree 100%. A lot of people here are saying his team should've done more but they literally told him "it's getting very wet, a lot of cars are going off track" and he told them to shut up. He also told his team "no we need to commit to staying on track" so it's very clear he wasn't going to change his mind. This is Landos fault 100% and I've also lost a lot of respect for him but that started last year when he asked his team "what is Carlos trying to be a hero or something?" When Carlos went off into the barriers. He sounds like a spoiled child which is sad because I really liked him at first.
Gosh enough of this backseat drivers stuff, yes it wasn’t ideal - that is unless if you can prove to me you can drive in 300km/h while having someone constantly talks into your ears in this stressful environment - Lando is just 21, be easy on him, he’s already showing some amazing talents.
@@standdbyme honestly a dumb thing to say, the reason these drivers are in F1 is because they've proven they CAN do all the things you mention. That's why they're paid the big bux. I don't need to be a mechanic to know when a car doesn't run and I don't need to be an F1 driver to see when a driver made a bad mistake. He's getting too cocky and he deserved this, hopefully next time he doesn't tell his team to shut up and listens to the advise.
Everyone making excuses for Lando, but when you hear the full radio he was extremely immature and borderline selfish, and that's why he lost. The team was giving Lando respect as a decision maker and that was a mistake also
He was literally telling his engineer to shut up! Like dude you need the information to make a decision. So poor on his front
If he actually had the correct info the rain is getting heavier this would never have happened anyway
@@Ryh_Ryh he is not the only driver who yell at engineer to shut up
@@epicmetod I didn’t say that…
@@epicmetod who said it's ok because others do it?
If Hamilton spoke to his engineer the way Norris did here there would be uproar from his hate club. All the comments haters make about Hamilton, or Verstappen or whoever with regards to how they behave in and out of the cars, they're all like it, it's competitive determination at 200mph. They don't have time to be nice, they only have time to be blunt and to the point. Engineers all know this, and will be used to dealing with fiery drivers.
Well said. In my opinion there should be no comment section on TH-cam, as most of the comments are from trolls. It's a shame that F1 now has the same sort of fans as football fans.
@@davidbrown8517 glad that your opinion is just that an opinion
@@davidbrown8517 no free speech then?
@@davidbrown8517 that’s so untrue f1 has amazing fans but the younger generation loves to hate on any and everything it’s sad
@@davidbrown8517 it’s not so much the fans in general it’s a small group mostly younger people that grew up in this culture of hating on each other instead of applauding greatness
What mclaren didn't realize is that Mercedes would always react to verstappen. Even if boxing for inters would have been the wrong call, ham and ver would be on the same tyres, with ham having 50 sec lead. That way ham would always finish ahead of ver. Even when it would mean ham would full outside of podium , it would be still worth champsionship wise.
Maybe but Bottas pitted before Verstappen so maybe they had data on that to go on aswell as Verstappen pitting just confirming what they would do for hamilton
Just imagine if Hamilton had also waited another lap. Verstappen would have won.
@@caesar485 no, norris waited 2 laps after hamilton had pitted, if he hd pit the lap right after he would have end 2, therefore also lewis if he had pit 1 lap after he would have finished still ahead of max
@@ashigaradokkoi2670 what are you on about? Obviously I mean if he had waited to go at the same time as Norris...
@@caesar485 then it’s 2 laps later not one. Hamilton pitted on lap 49 norris on lap 51
Both of them wanted to stay (which is somehow understandible) the team here made a huge difference..Lewis was informed about weather, that Max is piting, his engineer literally ordering Lewis to pit even tho he said the track is geting dry..if Merc didn't push Lewis to pit and listened to him like Mclaren did to Lando this would've been a different story and we would had Max wining from the last place lol
But radars aren't 100% accurate. RB let Max decide if he wanted to switch or not because they weren't sure ether and fortunately Max made the right decision. There was a moment when Will advised Lando that track was already very slippery and Lando's reply was "Yeah shut up!". I think if Lando was composed and didn't let his temper tantrum took him over, he would've have made a better decision like Max.
This what I heard from the full comms in chronological ordor.
Will advised Lando that DRS has been disabled. It means track is getting slippery.
Will advised Lando that some cars were pitting for interns.
Will advised Landothat track was already VERY slippery and lot of cars were going off track.
Lando's reply "Yeah! Shut up!".
Will asked Lando again if he would like to switch to intern
Lando angrily replied "NO!".
I remember Mercedes telling Lewis to pit at Monaco once... it cost him the race.
The difference was, Lando yell "yeah shut up!" and Lewis didn't. If Lewis yell too, his engineer wouldn't push him and listened to him just like Mclaren engineer did to Lando.
@@skiiwine9973 that's the thing, for Max it was a no-brainer to pit because he had nothing to lose. It was always going to be a difficult decision for whichever team was in P1 at the time. Think about it, even Lewis had nothing to lose really because had the conditions stayed the same after he had pitted, he was still going to finish second
lewis and max did not get emotional and lose the plot lol. lando was snipping at his engineer to shut up when he shoulda understood that the engineers input was gonna be pivotal to a successful race. a calm, level headed approach was what was needed but it is something lando will surely learn from and i'm sure he'll get his first win very soon.
Honestly I get it's disappointing Lando lost but I don't understand this trend of everyone feeling bad for him. He cost himself the race. He didn't lose because of a freak failure or something. Big fan of McLaren but there's nothing to feel bad for. He made a mistake due to his inexperience and likely learned a valuable lesson.
He definitely made a bad call but his team should’ve overridden him as they had more information.
I agree. He was thinking too far ahead instead of lap by lap. What made me angry was the lack of communication between the team and Lando. We’ll get them next time
I feel bad for him too. If you listen to the radio messages he gets, they tell him it will not get worse (when 3/4 of the track was still dry) and that's what he based his decision to stay out on. The team should have called him in, instead of leaving the choice to him. So I can't blame him for making that call.
@@jonathanbarrios162 hmm I thought Lando told them to "Shut up shut up!!!". They just comply
I don’t think it’s really inexperience. Alonso, Perez, Leclerc and Vettel all stayed on the tyres too long and they’re not exactly inexperienced. Alonso was told the same as lando that the rain would not get worse
So freaking cool. Heartbreaker for Lando! Congrats to Hamilton for getting to 100!
He should have taken the advice from his team but he was stubborn.
@@alexsimion7190 yea and i thought lewis was stubborn.. but he listened and it was a great decision, awesome race afterall
@@Moonlakes thats something which comes from experience , Lando is still a rookie .
@@medipeace307 you need to be experienced to listen to the permanent rain warning of your team?
LEWIS 100, 100 What a dramatic race
Interresting how Lewis sensed the danger and purposely slow down while Lando was on the edge. Experience of a champion
Yeah but Lewis had nothing to lose, he pitted and he came back to circuit in same position. lando knew that if he pitted, would been past by Lewis
@@leroybrandy6815 true and sharp seen
@@leroybrandy6815this is the F1 championship not free karting
@@leroybrandy6815 I think it’s because he had everything to lose if he slid off and crashed. Lando was willing to take extra risk because he isn’t in a tight battle for the championship.
@Bruh Only time will tell, but you know how Russell can be unlucky.
Bono is definitely a legend.
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Meh, he's only worked with Schumacher and Hamilton just a couple of nobodies'.
@@sporehux8344 jealous much
Impressive drive by Lewis, considering how much lag he had
He was driving three different tracks at the same time.
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@@jozsefgerjak5292 he needs to upgrade to fibre
stop babying Lando, it was his fault he lost the win and he should just deal with it