It's not that honestly. A man about to win his first race wasn't ready to succumb to circumstances and paid the price for it. Hope this would be a learning curve for him ❤️
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 nah man, that's greedy and devalorising of team's advices, he's not the only one looking for a win, all of his team and a lot of workers are.
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 it wasnt his fault the team didnt tell him the rain would get worse in fact they specifically said it would stay constant, as opposed to merc who told lewis it was getting worse which it was
Bono is always calm in these kinda situations. Remember when Lewis lost his left front tire in the last lap, max behind?! Awesome understanding and communication between Lewis and Bono.
He's one of the most underrated people in Mercedes. It's no wonder Lewis is so successful when you match his talent with Bono's man management and relationship with Lewis.
All he needed to hear to be sure he would win, maybe. Assuming the video is accurate as far as timing of radio messages, then that call happened after Hamilton went on inters anyhow so it wouldn't have influenced Merc tire decisions in any way.
The turning point here is the "SHUT UP" from Lando, you can't expect the race engineer to be confident in giving orders after that, Lewis was calm never shouted so for Bono it wasn't a problem to force Lewis into the pits
Totally agree with this- putting myself in Will Joseph's shoes, I wouldn't know what to tell my driver and when after that. Whilst I can see how stressful this situation must have been for Lando, I think he could have communicated in a much better way.
The difference in communication is insane. Lando cuts his communication in stress, while Hamilton and Bono still talk. When Lewis is informed he can pit, and stay ahead of Max, he decides that finishing on top of Max is more important than risking a crash, which would be big blow against his title chances, meanwhile, Norris is unwilling to let go of a first time 1st place finish over a much more secure 2nd-3rd finish.
This video is a boon to Indians who lost coverage from lap 49 onwards. The broadcast was interrupted to play an IPL cricket match. Imagine missing the end of this masterpiece. 😭
A big differentiator between Lewis and Lando's outcome in this race was communication. There is a clear ease between Lewis and his engineer. Lando on the other hand was always SO very HARSH with his engineer. The guy's voice seemed to tremble every time he came on to give a new piece of information. I think Lando was a little too greedy and got blinded by the possibility of victory shutting
Must have been massively stressful for Lando, knowing he had to hold off Lewis and be absolutely perfect in the slippery conditions for a few more laps to win. A real heartbreaker but I’m sure he’ll get his win.
More than driving experience, which is key for sure, what this shows is the difference on team engineering mentality. One side asserts to his driver, a multiple world champ at that, that he must pit. On the other hand, McLaren run with his driver on track feeling until it was too late. Certainly room for growth for Lando and the team.
Yeah 100%. Mercedes knew the had to overrule Hamilton, they have the weather radar and they know more than him about what's coming. McLaren needed to be way firmer with Lando and basically tell him he's coming in for new boots.
Yeah after he yelled to them to shut up? Nah this in my opinion is on Norris. He couldnt handle the pressure. Hamilton at no point sounded pressured even though it was to gain his 100th.
@@xtscarfacem8255 Im not saying is not on Norris fault, I agree on that, the inexperience failed him here. But taking that aside, the team should being more firm and tell him to just box instead of asking. Even the more knowing your driver is still young.
@@Rebel257 McLaren literally told him "we don´t expect the intensity of this rain to change" .... " what do you think about inters?". It´s mainly McLaren that messed up by not telling him to box but asking him. That´s what Mercedes did right.
@@robspanjersberg9972 I think Bottas was one of the first guys to pit for inters and 100% before Verstappen. Great decision by Mercedes, made lewis won the race and Bottas P5 was unbelievable. Also, Lewis ignored the call the first time else he would have also pitted before Verstappen.
The funny thing is: I expected Lewis to stay out. But Bono played it classy. Lewis was told: Bottas pitted, verxtappen pitted, Norris may have pitted! That sealed the deal. In this instance, the team had to convince the drivers because there was only 4 laps to go. And somehow I don’t feel bad for Norris. He didn’t give his team a chance to convince him. He literally shut them down.
@@RealLubba you are right!!! The call to stay out is almost 2nd nature to these drivers especially in the circumstance that these two were in!! That’s why the team strategists are so crucial. The call to pit had to be conveyed taking into account the driver’s personality and triggers..
Did you not hear the engineer tell him the rain wouldn’t intensify? While Bono told Lewis that it would get worse! Whoever was looking at the weather radar is the problem. Lando was never told the rain would increase.
Hamilton’s class is showed when at the end he thanks his team for the superb call on the rainy tyre. He’s done an incredible job, but he always give back to the team and to the factory. That’s why he is the GOAT!
As much as we are bored seeing Lewis win, wins like these show why him and Mercedes have won all those titles. In critical situations they usually come up with the best decisions, excepting a few.
I don’t think so. The reason why It look like they don’t make many mistakes is because they don’t need to make any decisions in the past. They are so far ahead of the rest that it doesn’t really matter what they do, they will finish first. Only this year they have decent competition and as you can see, they do make mistakes.
@@kongyiu 2017-2018 I don’t wanna be that guy but I’m gonna be that guy Ferrari took it to Mercedes and people have somehow forgotten how close seb was to catching Hamilton plus if seb was up against the terrible starting 2016 Hamilton he probably wld have won…people don’t realise Hamilton wasn’t always so consistent he had to step up his game and he did… go back a few seasons and watch mate
2:25 I think this is the pivotal moment, Landos engineer saying the rain will remain the same (edit: they were both saying it wasn’t raining much at that point), Hamilton’s telling him the intensity will increase. I feel that this was the key for Lando choosing to try and stick to slicks until the end unfortunately, although he definitely should’ve listened to his engineer later on when he was asked about inters
It was a very unclear message tbh, yes the intensity will stay the same, but that means its still going to be raining and coming down with the same intensity, Mercedes on the other hand said intensity is increasing which means still going to be raining but getting heavier and worsening the conditions, both messages were unclear but Mercedes message made the most sense
in hindsight, you could say they made all the wrong calls and everything, but deep down with the uncertainty, lando made the right call to do the opposite of hamilton since once hamilton boxed he already covered the gap to lando if he boxed. Mclaren had no option but to gamble staying out and not getting caught so that lando gets the win. But unfortunately it rained more. If Lando had boxed he would have had a chance to be in a higher position but what can you do, sometimes in f1 you risk it for the biscuit
@@nm-1-m159 Merc were clearer but also had nothing to lose and everything to gain . They also wanted to cover Max who had pitted so he could not overtake. Whereas the team at the front its much more difficult. Not easy and lots of teams and drivers were not sure that the weather would change. One of those things
I understand that it's heat of the moment, but I really hate when drivers tell engineers to shut up. It's incredibly unprofessional and rude to the only dude who's got your back for the entire race.
The thing is engineers won't mind that. drivers are driving 200-300 kmph and engineers are just sitting there comfortably in a chair. So they drivers tend to be more aggressive and many times they are get along very well outside the circuit
@@janudapannila3317 comfortable chair or not, anyway the engineer is not just there drinking a tee while talking. Those guys are checking a hundred of different data. In the video of Max's 5 finals laps, you can really appreciate all the info that guy is handling and giving to the driver: lap times of him and other racers, when he will get the car in front, how many, forecast and slippery turns... All that info was given in only 1 lap time. Plus the command of going into the box to change tires. Stress is on both sides of the mic the same amount, just drivers are the ones you see on tv
@@leroybrandy6815 I think it’s because he had everything to lose if he slid off and crashed. Lando was willing to take extra risk because he isn’t in a tight battle for the championship.
The difference between engineers is clear, but still Norris was a bit childish with the emotions. I'm sure he will learn from this and come back stronger!! Go Lando!
@Magical The problem here wasn't the decision, was the yelling and telling his engineer to shut-up when he was just trying to help. This childish behavior, might have contributed to the McLaren engineer giving less and less information to comply with Lando request. Lando was acting as a solo man on the last 10 laps and not even considering anything he was being told. You won't win F1 that way.
Yeah, now that we can hear the full audio, it's clear that Norris was a bit caught in the emotions. That's the difference between him and Lewis at the end. Lewis is calm and collected, although bickering with his engineer, but Norris was in the wrong mental
Hamilton showed class and great temperament, a well deserved 100 wins, was very humbled when he says' thanks for not giving up on me' , I really liked that
What mclaren didn't realize is that Mercedes would always react to verstappen. Even if boxing for inters would have been the wrong call, ham and ver would be on the same tyres, with ham having 50 sec lead. That way ham would always finish ahead of ver. Even when it would mean ham would full outside of podium , it would be still worth champsionship wise.
Maybe but Bottas pitted before Verstappen so maybe they had data on that to go on aswell as Verstappen pitting just confirming what they would do for hamilton
@@caesar485 no, norris waited 2 laps after hamilton had pitted, if he hd pit the lap right after he would have end 2, therefore also lewis if he had pit 1 lap after he would have finished still ahead of max
Norris' interactions with his crew in that race sort of reminded me of a parent trying to convince a toddler to go to bed. Something like: Parent (Crew): "Lando, it's getting late (wet) sweetie. Time to go bed (get inters)" Lando: "I want to stay up (keep my lead) like a grown up!" Parent (Crew): "Lando, it's getting really late (weather's getting worse). Please go to bed (pit for inters). Lando: "NO!"
I'm thinking of Hockenheim 2018 when cars started spinning left and right but Gasly was the only that pitted for full wets and went to the very back of the grid... BTW, AlphaTauri's weather reports are still backwards
I think two laps after his first slip, would have been perfect. cause he was still quite fast on most of the track when bottas pitted. but exactly the lap that Verstappen pitted the clouds seemed to cover the entire track and were quite dark. that's when the team should have. realized the time was right. just ahead of hamilton. and I think that if Lando goes in, hamilton would have tried to go for it which would have cost him for sure.
@@Adjudicator1 having that kind of behavior have no excuse. trash, people who know attitude will never do that especially to his own teammates who fully support him. such a shame i have to say
Both of them wanted to stay (which is somehow understandible) the team here made a huge difference..Lewis was informed about weather, that Max is piting, his engineer literally ordering Lewis to pit even tho he said the track is geting dry..if Merc didn't push Lewis to pit and listened to him like Mclaren did to Lando this would've been a different story and we would had Max wining from the last place lol
But radars aren't 100% accurate. RB let Max decide if he wanted to switch or not because they weren't sure ether and fortunately Max made the right decision. There was a moment when Will advised Lando that track was already very slippery and Lando's reply was "Yeah shut up!". I think if Lando was composed and didn't let his temper tantrum took him over, he would've have made a better decision like Max. This what I heard from the full comms in chronological ordor. Will advised Lando that DRS has been disabled. It means track is getting slippery. Will advised Lando that some cars were pitting for interns. Will advised Landothat track was already VERY slippery and lot of cars were going off track. Lando's reply "Yeah! Shut up!". Will asked Lando again if he would like to switch to intern Lando angrily replied "NO!".
The difference was, Lando yell "yeah shut up!" and Lewis didn't. If Lewis yell too, his engineer wouldn't push him and listened to him just like Mclaren engineer did to Lando.
@@skiiwine9973 that's the thing, for Max it was a no-brainer to pit because he had nothing to lose. It was always going to be a difficult decision for whichever team was in P1 at the time. Think about it, even Lewis had nothing to lose really because had the conditions stayed the same after he had pitted, he was still going to finish second
lewis and max did not get emotional and lose the plot lol. lando was snipping at his engineer to shut up when he shoulda understood that the engineers input was gonna be pivotal to a successful race. a calm, level headed approach was what was needed but it is something lando will surely learn from and i'm sure he'll get his first win very soon.
@@leoclements8017 yeah it’s very understandable, but some (more experienced) drivers can handle that and stay cool, so they can make the right decisions. But again: for a 21 year old fighting for his first GP win, very understandable.
@@leoclements8017 ALL drivers needed to concentrate and he was the only one with Stroll to yell to his engineer, and we saw how it ended up for both...
For those who don't appreciate SLH's personality, compare the conversations between him and his engineer, and Lando's. Go back all the way to back when SLH started in F1 if you want
Lewis is ofc the best driver..but please stop comparing him with Lando in Russia..Lando was fighting for his 1st win! Lewis has 99 of them..Lando is in his 3rd year..Lewis is in his 14th year! 11years!!! Lewis knows u need to stay calm in this situation and knows exacvtly how to act..He has had many close race wins
The racists would have a field day ... and they would claim it has nothing to do with race - he was just rude and arrogant.... but they dont complain about anybody else.
@@johncale1849 lulu fans logic = ur racist cos u don't lick ham boots. I guarantee if Ham was a white dude he'd get the same level of hate for being a hypocrite with his vegan go green attitude and his pagani driving + needing to treat bottas like trash. Ham gets less hate for being black since he can use the race and diversity card to escape his unprofessionalism in f1.
Everyone making excuses for Lando, but when you hear the full radio he was extremely immature and borderline selfish, and that's why he lost. The team was giving Lando respect as a decision maker and that was a mistake also
the race was already lost then. If he boxed he wouldve been behind hamilton. That's where he lost p2 which im sure he wouldve been just as dissapointed in getting
Pivotal moments were: "Shut Up!" and "No!" rather than conversing and finding an optimal solution, it comes with experience. Rain made the race interesting and unpredictable real fast.
This is being blown way out of proportion. Lando has always said he doesn’t like a lot of radio messages while driving and often asks for silence. He is under the most pressure he has ever been leading with a chance of winning for the first time. He’s got a seven time world champion behind in a faster car constantly pressuring him. He’s trying to concentrate and he’s getting information he doesn’t care about regarding other cars. Drivers have said way worse things on the radio before. Remember that press conference where Lewis was asked about swearing on the radio and Seb defended him saying in the heat of the moment you’re not going to say things in a nice way.
@@Summert2912 I'm sure that was because Lewis called Max a d***head, kinda different to swearing/shouting at your race engineer. Lando isn't too different to the other young drivers though, a lot of them can get a bit heated on the radio, except for Schumacher, he just beeps.
@@Danlorde definitely not blaming Hamilton. I was bringing up Seb’s explanation about team radio messages being made into something it’s not and was creating context so people knew which press conference I was talking about.
Vast difference between Lando and Daniel on the same inter question. To Lando: "what do you think about inter?" - "NO!!!" To Daniel: "do we need the inter?" - "yeah, i can't keep it on track, the hard's just got no temp" - "copy Daniel we'll box we'll box"
McLaren trying to communicate in a crucial time for communication: Lando: "Shut up!" This is why F1 is a team sport. Your team isn't there to support you winning, you win as a team.
I’ve never known Lewis to ever freak out on the radio. Complain sure (even though his complaints are mostly code to his team) but never lose his cool, even when it’s all going wrong. Even when his engineer is losing it, Lewis is the one to calm him down. A true champion of champions. …Actually, there was one small one: Lewis: BLUE FLAG! - Brazil 2008, but it was the closing seconds of the race that got him his first championship win…so that’s okay :)
The difference is definitely I think Mercedes’ being used to being in those high positions and able to command their drivers like that, where as it’s no longer as common for McLaren to be at the front of the field and not being as confident with those type of decisions.
The experience certainly helps but the key factor was Lewis being second with a free pit stop. Had the positions been reversed Lando would have pitted and Lewis would have stayed out. It’s a brave call to pit from the lead in these situations, and sometimes being second is the best position to be in!
@@MaximusOwen1 Why did they do the extra lap though? Lewis pitted first and Lando could had pitted the lap after. Instead they waited another lap and that's where it all went wrong. They pitted Danny first, they should have info from his car to see what was the right tyre to be on
Ohhhh, so when they told Hamilton that there was more rain coming, Hamilton had already started going into the pit lane, so that comment about more rain coming wasn't a factor in Hamilton's decition to go in. He just trusted them. That extra info about more rain coming may have helped to make him feel more confident in their decision though.
If Hamilton spoke to his engineer the way Norris did here there would be uproar from his hate club. All the comments haters make about Hamilton, or Verstappen or whoever with regards to how they behave in and out of the cars, they're all like it, it's competitive determination at 200mph. They don't have time to be nice, they only have time to be blunt and to the point. Engineers all know this, and will be used to dealing with fiery drivers.
Well said. In my opinion there should be no comment section on TH-cam, as most of the comments are from trolls. It's a shame that F1 now has the same sort of fans as football fans.
@@davidbrown8517 it’s not so much the fans in general it’s a small group mostly younger people that grew up in this culture of hating on each other instead of applauding greatness
The communication difference is amazing. On one side, a engineer is talking with a seven times world champion and giving precise and clear imformation. On the other side, a engineer is almost affraid to displease a young pilot and letting him to make a critical decision based on his feeling on the track. I believe Lando will learn a lot after this what may be decisive to be a world champion in the future.
So Hamilton straight up trusted his team when they told him to pit the second time. He was already in the pit lane before they told him that rain would get worse. Thats teamwork
This shows exactly why F1 is a team effort and trust between the crew and the driver is essential in every race(win). Lando has learned a valuable lesson out of this. But then again, he still has so many awsome years in F1 to go. He will get there...
Experience shows the different between calm and anxious. I can understand lando feeling wanting to win it but . Can see Hamilton have full trust with the team engineer trusting their call. If only lando team was more firm with the call to bring him in he won’t fall behind so much
A learning curve for both Lando and their team, sometime the team should ask the driver to come in than asking if they want to. Man, Lando was driving so amazing this race before the rain. Rain spoiled Lando but saved Max a lot of points
As much as I like Lando, he got the result that he deserved. His petulant, know-it-all attitude cost him the race. His race engineers tried various ways to convince him to pit for inters but he thought he knew best.
...also the fact that Lewis was behind he just couldn't bring himself to lose position regardless...and effectively Lewis did the undercut on him...Viola 👆
The ego on Lando. That P7 was well deserved. Shut up he tells his team. Shouts at them not to take inters and when they give him car settings to enter the pit gracefully. He needs taking down a peg or two. Glad Lewis, who was calm and respectful to his team took the advice and won to clinch the 100.
The moment LH pitted, Norris should have pitted. The team should have taken the charge as would not have lost much. Alteast P2 was confirmed even if he pitted on lap 50, that would have been enough
Agree, but Lando is egotistic. I don't quite get why he is so desperate for that Win. Maybe peer pressure? He even thought of snatching that Win from his team mate in Monza. He got 2nd, the best finish of his F1 career, yet you could tell in his eyes he was envious of Ricciardo
@@dendankegamer Harsh calling Lando egotistic when Lewis was about to make the same error himself. This wasn't just Lando at fault but the team also need to take responsibility for the loss. There is a subtle but key difference between the information Lewis got from his race engineer to that of Lando's which sealed the result. Lewis was told the rain was intensifying and it was wet at the far end of the track - even coming into the pits Lewis was unsure it was the right decision to switch to inters but trusted his team. Lando on the other had with the information he'd been given felt the conditions were tricky but manageable not realising the information was wrong and the conditions were getting worse. They were even asking him how he felt about going on inters rather than saying conditions have worsened pit for inters. So I think your critic of Lando is unfair based purely on how this race unfolded.
@Lim Heng 1st to pit will win, yeah that only works in hindsight of knowing it's about to hammer with rain. If you've been told it's not going to get worse then 1st to pit has lost as you're not making up a 25 second pit stop in 3 or 4 laps if the guys on slicks are only a few seconds a lap slower.... Lando was just in the lose lose situation. In the end it was a coin flip. Either they trust their weather prediction of not getting worse and stay out, or they ignore their own data and pit and hope they got the forecast wrong and Lewis then has to come in for inters after Lando. Awful situation.
Honestly I get it's disappointing Lando lost but I don't understand this trend of everyone feeling bad for him. He cost himself the race. He didn't lose because of a freak failure or something. Big fan of McLaren but there's nothing to feel bad for. He made a mistake due to his inexperience and likely learned a valuable lesson.
I agree. He was thinking too far ahead instead of lap by lap. What made me angry was the lack of communication between the team and Lando. We’ll get them next time
I feel bad for him too. If you listen to the radio messages he gets, they tell him it will not get worse (when 3/4 of the track was still dry) and that's what he based his decision to stay out on. The team should have called him in, instead of leaving the choice to him. So I can't blame him for making that call.
I don’t think it’s really inexperience. Alonso, Perez, Leclerc and Vettel all stayed on the tyres too long and they’re not exactly inexperienced. Alonso was told the same as lando that the rain would not get worse
Masterclass, this is how you handle difficult times, calm and with a lot of confidence in what you have around you, Lewis handles it very well, the experience came into play big time here. Turn the table around and you would have way more nonsense comments about how Lewis was a loser for not listening to the pit wall, double standard at his best with some fan.
5:20 if you think someone who talks to their team like this deserved to win your just a stan. I like Lando but you're in a gowns man sport with real life risk. You should act the part, this isn't the first time I've heard something like this from him and this is just childish. Stress and pressure are apart of the game. I don't feel sorry for him losing this win. He need to come back better, take accountability or he'll lose respect from the people in the team. I lost some respect for him today.
I agree 100%. A lot of people here are saying his team should've done more but they literally told him "it's getting very wet, a lot of cars are going off track" and he told them to shut up. He also told his team "no we need to commit to staying on track" so it's very clear he wasn't going to change his mind. This is Landos fault 100% and I've also lost a lot of respect for him but that started last year when he asked his team "what is Carlos trying to be a hero or something?" When Carlos went off into the barriers. He sounds like a spoiled child which is sad because I really liked him at first.
Gosh enough of this backseat drivers stuff, yes it wasn’t ideal - that is unless if you can prove to me you can drive in 300km/h while having someone constantly talks into your ears in this stressful environment - Lando is just 21, be easy on him, he’s already showing some amazing talents.
@@standdbyme honestly a dumb thing to say, the reason these drivers are in F1 is because they've proven they CAN do all the things you mention. That's why they're paid the big bux. I don't need to be a mechanic to know when a car doesn't run and I don't need to be an F1 driver to see when a driver made a bad mistake. He's getting too cocky and he deserved this, hopefully next time he doesn't tell his team to shut up and listens to the advise.
@@zuludeltanovember There are a lot of drivers with worse attitudes on the radio like Kimi/ Alonso/ Max. They’ve all shouted and sweared on the radio and they seem to be pretty successful. I’ve heard a lot worse comments that drivers have made to their engineers than “shut up”.
Shut up! No! I don't quite get why Lando is so desperate for that Win. Maybe peer pressure? He was even thinking of snatching that Win from his team mate in Monza. He got 2nd, the best finish of his F1 career, yet you could tell in his eyes he was envious of Ricciardo
@LewisHamilton2020 I listened to it Lando's radio calls, it wasn't clear he should pit. I think the team missed the call, partly because Lando was really strong about staying out.
At the beginning (2:28) Lando is told: "We're expecting this intensity the whole race" and nobody tells him otherwise. Lewis is being told: "Rain intensity increasing" (2:40). Lando was definitely on edge but the initial information both of them got and which created the framework in which they took the decisions are very different.
And then did the race end there?? Did lando not see or feel the intensity of the rain increasing to go back to the team and say "Hey it's a different story out here"? He's the goofball who had the nerve to tell his team to "shut up". Well, handle it then big man.
@@Agnelum1 oh no, the kiddo said to shut up, we will hide in dark corner and cry, won’t give him info anymore. It’s their work, to analyze situation and make decisions based on full info. Why don’t we hear “Lando box box” from Maclaren engineers? Oh, because they left young inexperienced boy to decide by himself, great work.
I was absolutely on the edge of my seat rooting for Lando. BUT that is what we call a "teachable moment"!! Experiences like these will carry him to championships.
When I heard the result and what happened to Lando so late on I felt sorry for him. Not so much now after seeing this. He got what he deserved. Being disrespectful to your crew is a big no no. They got you to where you were.
I don't know but it's very strong for you to have everything and then nothing, lando really deserved all that, the important thing is that he learned and gained experience, maybe next time lando will be pole.
Had Lando not been so quick to shut the communication down, he'd have finished a lot higher than 7th. I feel for him, but the adrenaline was clearly pumping.
I'd heard the radio before, but it wasn't until I could see where the cars were that I realised Lewis followed the instruction to pit BEFORE Bono told him more rain was coming. I assumed he only pitted after that information. I am now more impressed as at that point he had the same level of weather understanding as Lando.
Yep, but people are trying to make it out as if that was the deciding factor and McLaren didn't give the same information to Norris. Both drivers appear to have been given almost identical information at similar times during the race and they both made a judgement call based on said information.
Lewis was explicitly told that the rain intensity was increasing 2:36, while Lando was told that the intensity will stay to the end of the race 2:24. Both are different messages, one implies the conditions will worsen and the other implies the conditions will stay how they are at that moment.
@@subsist99 it's funny, when I listen to it in full it sounds like that is in relation to conditions on track at that point (i.e. from no rain to rain). Especially given it then stopped before it then started again, which I think is the bit that Merc got right and McLaren didn't.
@@subsist99 Again you're wrong, that message was after Lewis was already entering the pit and not before. Also, the intensity not increasing doesn't mean the track won't progressively get wetter, I don't think the rain really intensified that much, it's just that the track got wetter as the rain continued and Norris was told as much.
@@peterporkeresq.2817 No. Lewis pits at 6:05. Yes, after he's committed he gets told "there's more coming", but as @subsist99 said, he was also told that earlier.
Mazepin's communication with his team in the changing weather was interesting too. To Mazepin: "expect this rain to continue to the end of the race, just like this, not getting any worse" Mazepin: "copy... The rain is quite s***... We need to box, we need to box for the inters" To Mazepin: "we hear your message on tyres. Are you sure we need inters?" Mazepin: "yes, yeah, otherwise i cannot keep it on track" To Mazepin: "what about soft? Could you survive on softs?" Mazepin: "negative" To Mazepin: "understood, box Nikita box!"
“He is getting overtaken by Mazepin on inter”…this sentence is brutal for any F1 driver
except for Maz.
@@4ntoCatch who was un-lapping himself from being 3 laps down to only 2 laps down... 21st driver all the way.
this was the turning point
@@kazama2212 Hes the GOAT from now on.
@@king_zapp i know . joking as the comment was ANY F1 driver,
The trust between a driver and team is on full display here
It's not that honestly. A man about to win his first race wasn't ready to succumb to circumstances and paid the price for it. Hope this would be a learning curve for him ❤️
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 nah man, that's greedy and devalorising of team's advices, he's not the only one looking for a win, all of his team and a lot of workers are.
You mean the difference in trust ... ;)
@@yajaskumarkaim9071 it wasnt his fault the team didnt tell him the rain would get worse in fact they specifically said it would stay constant, as opposed to merc who told lewis it was getting worse which it was
@@grahamsissons9793 it was his fault mostly, he told the team to shut up and didnt pit when advised, its his inexperience that got him here
Bono is always calm in these kinda situations. Remember when Lewis lost his left front tire in the last lap, max behind?! Awesome understanding and communication between Lewis and Bono.
Yea, the onboard with radio on that lap is amazing to watch
10 seconds to Verstappen....
8 seconds to Verstappen...
7 seconds to VERSTAPPEN!
He's right up there with GP in terms of pure class.
I'm a red bull fan, but man Bono is such an excellent engineer. He's so calm and precise.
He's one of the most underrated people in Mercedes. It's no wonder Lewis is so successful when you match his talent with Bono's man management and relationship with Lewis.
@@dod2105 Tbh..
@@dod2105 yup, i watched Russell's Sakhir Mercedes debut video and Bono was managing him so well and he was so calm
He's pro- Bono ; )
But not that red bull's are bad .
I’m blown away by how calm and almost amicable Lewis is during such a high stress point of the race.
It's the experience of the 7 times world champion. The G.O.A.T.
@@justinrockmore327 I agree tbf
He is a veteran and a champion, he's been here many times over. Lando was just trying to keep his lead.
Lewis has seen it and done it all. Lando wanted some of the pie too
He had 99 victories. Lando zero. Thats the difference.
The difference of experience in these exchanges is brutal. Long way to go Lando
Engineer: He is getting overtaken by Mazepin on inters.
Lewis: Ok , it's over, we got this...
😂😂😂
I was about to comment about this LOL
🤣hehehe 💯+1%
Ouch 😂😂
Nope funny
'Norris has been overtaken by Mazepin on inters' is all Hamilton needed to hear
All he needed to hear to be sure he would win, maybe. Assuming the video is accurate as far as timing of radio messages, then that call happened after Hamilton went on inters anyhow so it wouldn't have influenced Merc tire decisions in any way.
😂😂😂😂😂
The turning point here is the "SHUT UP" from Lando, you can't expect the race engineer to be confident in giving orders after that, Lewis was calm never shouted so for Bono it wasn't a problem to force Lewis into the pits
Yup. He could've got that first grand prix win 😂😂
Totally agree with this- putting myself in Will Joseph's shoes, I wouldn't know what to tell my driver and when after that. Whilst I can see how stressful this situation must have been for Lando, I think he could have communicated in a much better way.
It was a difference between experiences and it’s lesson learned from lando
@@sarabeth7415 What, whilst just arriving at the back of 2 slow cars are you dumb? 😔
Very disappointing to hear him do that. Will hopefully be a big lesson for him. He drove so well, very tough to chuck it away.
The difference in communication is insane. Lando cuts his communication in stress, while Hamilton and Bono still talk.
When Lewis is informed he can pit, and stay ahead of Max, he decides that finishing on top of Max is more important than risking a crash, which would be big blow against his title chances, meanwhile, Norris is unwilling to let go of a first time 1st place finish over a much more secure 2nd-3rd finish.
His attitude lost him a podium place.
@@nathitshabalala5414 exactly my thoughts
@@nathitshabalala5414 his inexperience
Lewis once again showcasing while he’s won 7 titles
Respectfully Hamilton was told weather was going to get worse and Norris was told it would stay the same. This is on McLaren more than Lando Imho
This video is a boon to Indians who lost coverage from lap 49 onwards. The broadcast was interrupted to play an IPL cricket match. Imagine missing the end of this masterpiece. 😭
Wait I saw the whole race on Star Sports 3. Not HD but still... It's been that way during IPL season.
Indians live in the Americas.
Imagine watching cricket
True 😂😂😂😂 hotstar vale
I was so furious about that, they shamelessly run ads in between laps and now this. What a joke of broadcasters
A big differentiator between Lewis and Lando's outcome in this race was communication. There is a clear ease between Lewis and his engineer. Lando on the other hand was always SO very HARSH with his engineer. The guy's voice seemed to tremble every time he came on to give a new piece of information. I think Lando was a little too greedy and got blinded by the possibility of victory shutting
Shows experience one driver with 100 wins , one with 0 , landos time will come
Nervousness coming from inexperience.
Must have been massively stressful for Lando, knowing he had to hold off Lewis and be absolutely perfect in the slippery conditions for a few more laps to win. A real heartbreaker but I’m sure he’ll get his win.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Damm right you 100% right he was to harsh. Is there a penalty for harshness to your partner in the race
More than driving experience, which is key for sure, what this shows is the difference on team engineering mentality. One side asserts to his driver, a multiple world champ at that, that he must pit. On the other hand, McLaren run with his driver on track feeling until it was too late. Certainly room for growth for Lando and the team.
Well hard to be assertive when ur driver, who is winning his first race, aggressively tells u to shut up.
Yeah 100%. Mercedes knew the had to overrule Hamilton, they have the weather radar and they know more than him about what's coming. McLaren needed to be way firmer with Lando and basically tell him he's coming in for new boots.
@@whygamewhy Doesnt matter, you have the radar and you know what a lot more about the weather than the dirver, you have to be more firm.
Yeah after he yelled to them to shut up? Nah this in my opinion is on Norris. He couldnt handle the pressure. Hamilton at no point sounded pressured even though it was to gain his 100th.
@@xtscarfacem8255 Im not saying is not on Norris fault, I agree on that, the inexperience failed him here. But taking that aside, the team should being more firm and tell him to just box instead of asking. Even the more knowing your driver is still young.
The difference was totally about experience. Also Bono was very assertive and precise.
Mercedes just followed Verstappen , he was pitting and so did Mercedes .
No, Lando was too naive to listen. He should have.
@@robspanjersberg9972 Smart movement
@@Rebel257 McLaren literally told him "we don´t expect the intensity of this rain to change" .... " what do you think about inters?". It´s mainly McLaren that messed up by not telling him to box but asking him. That´s what Mercedes did right.
@@robspanjersberg9972 I think Bottas was one of the first guys to pit for inters and 100% before Verstappen. Great decision by Mercedes, made lewis won the race and Bottas P5 was unbelievable. Also, Lewis ignored the call the first time else he would have also pitted before Verstappen.
The funny thing is: I expected Lewis to stay out.
But Bono played it classy. Lewis was told: Bottas pitted, verxtappen pitted, Norris may have pitted! That sealed the deal.
In this instance, the team had to convince the drivers because there was only 4 laps to go.
And somehow I don’t feel bad for Norris. He didn’t give his team a chance to convince him. He literally shut them down.
I like to believe that, if norris had pitted and Lewis were fighting for his very first win, he would have made the same call as lando now
@@RealLubba you are right!!! The call to stay out is almost 2nd nature to these drivers especially in the circumstance that these two were in!!
That’s why the team strategists are so crucial. The call to pit had to be conveyed taking into account the driver’s personality and triggers..
Norris: Shut up!!!!
@@Trouble0111 I bet he won’t do that again lol
Did you not hear the engineer tell him the rain wouldn’t intensify? While Bono told Lewis that it would get worse! Whoever was looking at the weather radar is the problem. Lando was never told the rain would increase.
Lewis' T cam hurts my eyes with all the jittering 😂
Literally 😂
@@tivelfarrell1855 fr
Forgot to repair it, after Max parked his car on top 😁
Is it the jittering or the winning?
The key to Merc's speed: Quantum voidal spacetime manipulation. FIA have banned it from 2022 onwards.
Bono is definitely a legend.
box box BOX
Meh, he's only worked with Schumacher and Hamilton just a couple of nobodies'.
@@sporehux8344 jealous much
Hamilton’s class is showed when at the end he thanks his team for the superb call on the rainy tyre.
He’s done an incredible job, but he always give back to the team and to the factory.
That’s why he is the GOAT!
Fangio won 50% of his races, Lewis 35%
@@mick8473 both incredible
@@mick8473 Fangio raced against "gentlemen drivers".
As much as I dislike Schumacher, Hamilton is not at Schumacher level...
@@Gisae Many people who have worked with & raced against both of them say otherwise... but we're all entitled to our opinions...
Starting to rain, getting slippery, in the lead and Lewis Hamilton just behind you, terrifying...😵
That is why Lando was on the edge, he was under pressure.
Hamilton isn’t that scary when he’s chasing not gonna lie
@@OsmanLiban Really. The number of drivers who have made mistakes while Lewis is on the chase tells you all.
@@OsmanLiban Found Rosberg's other account
i can think of someone more terrifying
This shows the intensity of the crucial moments. There is no margin for error. Truly shows why F1 is the Pinnacle of Motorsports.
Lando: YEAH SHUT UP!
Engineer (to himself): karma
🤣🤣 true..i like lando but tht was jus RUDE
Lando During Race: SHUT UP
Lando after the race: I'll shut myself up
Engineer (to himself) : I'm going for a coffee.
This is makes me laugh thanks
i mean "karma" is not the best way to describe this, since the team loses with him
As much as we are bored seeing Lewis win, wins like these show why him and Mercedes have won all those titles. In critical situations they usually come up with the best decisions, excepting a few.
I don’t think so. The reason why It look like they don’t make many mistakes is because they don’t need to make any decisions in the past. They are so far ahead of the rest that it doesn’t really matter what they do, they will finish first. Only this year they have decent competition and as you can see, they do make mistakes.
Great drive and team effort but most because of Max pitted already.
@@kongyiu thats BS
I am not bored ...
@@kongyiu 2017-2018 I don’t wanna be that guy but I’m gonna be that guy Ferrari took it to Mercedes and people have somehow forgotten how close seb was to catching Hamilton plus if seb was up against the terrible starting 2016 Hamilton he probably wld have won…people don’t realise Hamilton wasn’t always so consistent he had to step up his game and he did… go back a few seasons and watch mate
Thriller i like how Lewis did not shout YEEEEEEEEEES like a normal driver does he humled himself and just said thanks guys, no words.
Dude, he's 36 lol. It's understandable for younger drivers to be screaming with joy, that's youth.
@@aegystierone8505Read the whole luke bible chapter they should humble themselves not exalt themselves but you do you bro.
it's better to let out a sigh of relief rather than a loud cheer after one comically stressful situation
@@barkyonyx424b True that bro
Lando talking to his team like some random in a gaming lobby.
Makes sense now
😂😂😂
2:25 I think this is the pivotal moment, Landos engineer saying the rain will remain the same (edit: they were both saying it wasn’t raining much at that point), Hamilton’s telling him the intensity will increase. I feel that this was the key for Lando choosing to try and stick to slicks until the end unfortunately, although he definitely should’ve listened to his engineer later on when he was asked about inters
It was a very unclear message tbh, yes the intensity will stay the same, but that means its still going to be raining and coming down with the same intensity, Mercedes on the other hand said intensity is increasing which means still going to be raining but getting heavier and worsening the conditions, both messages were unclear but Mercedes message made the most sense
credit to Bono, he gave clear information even for us the viewers
in hindsight, you could say they made all the wrong calls and everything, but deep down with the uncertainty, lando made the right call to do the opposite of hamilton since once hamilton boxed he already covered the gap to lando if he boxed. Mclaren had no option but to gamble staying out and not getting caught so that lando gets the win. But unfortunately it rained more. If Lando had boxed he would have had a chance to be in a higher position but what can you do, sometimes in f1 you risk it for the biscuit
@@nm-1-m159 Merc were clearer but also had nothing to lose and everything to gain . They also wanted to cover Max who had pitted so he could not overtake. Whereas the team at the front its much more difficult. Not easy and lots of teams and drivers were not sure that the weather would change. One of those things
But then, the track would get wetter and wetter even if it rained at the same rate.
The subtle differences in team communication and decision makes all the difference in the world.
No, the his inexperience and his ego (shut up ) and (no
@@bnbmike4731 shh
Wasnt really an subtle difference lol
@@matthewterlouw
"Shut up" doesn't sound too subtle to me either ... no.
@@peterporkeresq.2817 Hahahaha
Seeing Lando being barely able to slide into the pit lane on slicks, and then taking off with full power on inters, is spectacular.
That reverse cam from Norris of a looming Lewis looks hella scary. He did well to hold on to his nerve for as long as he did
He didn't held on well...hence his misjudgement of refusing to give up position...
True Dat, Ham's Merc looks like the Terminator lol.
7:00 You know its bad when your getting overtaken by mazepin on inters
yup, i don't know why between Lando and Mclaren team didn't realize it.
Realize about drivers' lap time on inters.
@@dk_noobmaster46 At that point, it was all or nothing. If he pitted, he would have lost first place anyway.
@@MrArcticPOWER Lewis had already gained enough time to be in the lead after only 1 lap on inters, so Norris was in a lose / lose situation.
@@MrArcticPOWER i mean inters lap time by Bottas. Somehow didn't looked for it.
@@MrArcticPOWER would have gotten p2 or p3, better than p8 or p7 i dont rember
I understand that it's heat of the moment, but I really hate when drivers tell engineers to shut up. It's incredibly unprofessional and rude to the only dude who's got your back for the entire race.
The thing is engineers won't mind that. drivers are driving 200-300 kmph and engineers are just sitting there comfortably in a chair. So they drivers tend to be more aggressive and many times they are get along very well outside the circuit
Metoo. Hate it. It's getting annoyingly boring all their swearing and arrogancy
@@janudapannila3317 how do you know they don't mind it? Have you asked them?
It's concentration. When I'm immersed and trying hard to concentrate, then I too will shout "shut up".
@@janudapannila3317 comfortable chair or not, anyway the engineer is not just there drinking a tee while talking. Those guys are checking a hundred of different data. In the video of Max's 5 finals laps, you can really appreciate all the info that guy is handling and giving to the driver: lap times of him and other racers, when he will get the car in front, how many, forecast and slippery turns... All that info was given in only 1 lap time. Plus the command of going into the box to change tires. Stress is on both sides of the mic the same amount, just drivers are the ones you see on tv
Interresting how Lewis sensed the danger and purposely slow down while Lando was on the edge. Experience of a champion
Yeah but Lewis had nothing to lose, he pitted and he came back to circuit in same position. lando knew that if he pitted, would been past by Lewis
@@leroybrandy6815 true and sharp seen
@@leroybrandy6815this is the F1 championship not free karting
@@leroybrandy6815 I think it’s because he had everything to lose if he slid off and crashed. Lando was willing to take extra risk because he isn’t in a tight battle for the championship.
@Bruh Only time will tell, but you know how Russell can be unlucky.
The difference between engineers is clear, but still Norris was a bit childish with the emotions.
I'm sure he will learn from this and come back stronger!! Go Lando!
Unlike Lewis, he yells at his engineer
Indeed! The pace is there, just need experience now.
@Magical but Lando has 5 podiums, no? First win, yes
@Magical The problem here wasn't the decision, was the yelling and telling his engineer to shut-up when he was just trying to help.
This childish behavior, might have contributed to the McLaren engineer giving less and less information to comply with Lando request.
Lando was acting as a solo man on the last 10 laps and not even considering anything he was being told.
You won't win F1 that way.
Yeah, now that we can hear the full audio, it's clear that Norris was a bit caught in the emotions. That's the difference between him and Lewis at the end. Lewis is calm and collected, although bickering with his engineer, but Norris was in the wrong mental
Hamilton showed class and great temperament, a well deserved 100 wins, was very humbled when he says' thanks for not giving up on me' , I really liked that
What mclaren didn't realize is that Mercedes would always react to verstappen. Even if boxing for inters would have been the wrong call, ham and ver would be on the same tyres, with ham having 50 sec lead. That way ham would always finish ahead of ver. Even when it would mean ham would full outside of podium , it would be still worth champsionship wise.
Maybe but Bottas pitted before Verstappen so maybe they had data on that to go on aswell as Verstappen pitting just confirming what they would do for hamilton
Just imagine if Hamilton had also waited another lap. Verstappen would have won.
@@caesar485 no, norris waited 2 laps after hamilton had pitted, if he hd pit the lap right after he would have end 2, therefore also lewis if he had pit 1 lap after he would have finished still ahead of max
@@ashigaradokkoi2670 what are you on about? Obviously I mean if he had waited to go at the same time as Norris...
@@caesar485 then it’s 2 laps later not one. Hamilton pitted on lap 49 norris on lap 51
Imagine you were Lando and hear from your race engineer “Mazepin will overtake you with Inters”.
Unlucky.
"pastor maldonado has entered the chat"
You say “shut up” like he did😂😅
Can anyone explain what inters mean?
@@whackwhack6554 intermediate tires it like halfway between full wets and slicks so for an intermediate level of rain
@Graham Sissons ohh so its for tires, thank u so much got it.
Norris' interactions with his crew in that race sort of reminded me of a parent trying to convince a toddler to go to bed. Something like:
Parent (Crew): "Lando, it's getting late (wet) sweetie. Time to go bed (get inters)"
Lando: "I want to stay up (keep my lead) like a grown up!"
Parent (Crew): "Lando, it's getting really late (weather's getting worse). Please go to bed (pit for inters).
Lando: "NO!"
I'm guessing the "shut up" thing doesn't fit well with the toddler analogy 😅
@@MMAli-rq8kd pphow((h
@@MMAli-rq8kd i mean, it definitely does, just with a different ending 😂😂
Radio, cars are going off
Lando: shut up
Well deserved outcome.
Was acting like a dog under pressure😂😂😂
YUP HAHA! KARMA GOT HIM STRAIGHT UP
It's true. Lacked humility for him.
yep he got what he deserved
Y O U N E E D I N T E R S Y O U I D I O T
as soon as you start going off track you need wet tyres 3:27 - But Norris will learn alot from Sunday
I'm thinking of Hockenheim 2018 when cars started spinning left and right but Gasly was the only that pitted for full wets and went to the very back of the grid...
BTW, AlphaTauri's weather reports are still backwards
He might have pulled it off if it had not started pouring. Also, Hamilton was given a heavy rain report, Norris wasn´t.
The gamble was “it will stop raining”. But you can’t gamble, you need to trust the team
Exactly. Norris had a free pit stop and the worst that would have happened if he switched to inters was finishing 2nd
I think two laps after his first slip, would have been perfect. cause he was still quite fast on most of the track when bottas pitted. but exactly the lap that Verstappen pitted the clouds seemed to cover the entire track and were quite dark. that's when the team should have. realized the time was right. just ahead of hamilton. and I think that if Lando goes in, hamilton would have tried to go for it which would have cost him for sure.
Norris was so narrow-minded in the final laps. His “shut up!!!” to the mechanics was way too disrespectful.
Well, Lando Norris is under heavy suppression shock from the pressure of fighting for the win and treacherous weather.
@@Adjudicator1 it's usually under high pressure situations a person shows their true ability and character. Norris still needs to grow up a bit
deserved loss for that lack of respect 4 sure
@@Adjudicator1 having that kind of behavior have no excuse. trash, people who know attitude will never do that especially to his own teammates who fully support him. such a shame i have to say
I hope the team talked to him about that.
Seeing these on boards is so great. You can really see every information given is so crucial in the nest decision to take.
Both of them wanted to stay (which is somehow understandible) the team here made a huge difference..Lewis was informed about weather, that Max is piting, his engineer literally ordering Lewis to pit even tho he said the track is geting dry..if Merc didn't push Lewis to pit and listened to him like Mclaren did to Lando this would've been a different story and we would had Max wining from the last place lol
But radars aren't 100% accurate. RB let Max decide if he wanted to switch or not because they weren't sure ether and fortunately Max made the right decision. There was a moment when Will advised Lando that track was already very slippery and Lando's reply was "Yeah shut up!". I think if Lando was composed and didn't let his temper tantrum took him over, he would've have made a better decision like Max.
This what I heard from the full comms in chronological ordor.
Will advised Lando that DRS has been disabled. It means track is getting slippery.
Will advised Lando that some cars were pitting for interns.
Will advised Landothat track was already VERY slippery and lot of cars were going off track.
Lando's reply "Yeah! Shut up!".
Will asked Lando again if he would like to switch to intern
Lando angrily replied "NO!".
I remember Mercedes telling Lewis to pit at Monaco once... it cost him the race.
The difference was, Lando yell "yeah shut up!" and Lewis didn't. If Lewis yell too, his engineer wouldn't push him and listened to him just like Mclaren engineer did to Lando.
@@skiiwine9973 that's the thing, for Max it was a no-brainer to pit because he had nothing to lose. It was always going to be a difficult decision for whichever team was in P1 at the time. Think about it, even Lewis had nothing to lose really because had the conditions stayed the same after he had pitted, he was still going to finish second
lewis and max did not get emotional and lose the plot lol. lando was snipping at his engineer to shut up when he shoulda understood that the engineers input was gonna be pivotal to a successful race. a calm, level headed approach was what was needed but it is something lando will surely learn from and i'm sure he'll get his first win very soon.
Impressive drive by Lewis, considering how much lag he had
He was driving three different tracks at the same time.
russian internet
@@jozsefgerjak5292 he needs to upgrade to fibre
Passion of youth vs wisdom of experience. What a fantastic race from both drivers. Thanks for posting this very insightful video.
Perfectly explained my. Buddy that was all
Well put
Felt really bad for Lando during race but when his engineer told him cars are slipping everywhere and he yelled “Shut up” that’s when he lost
Yes but it's because he needed to concentrate and not spin out
@@leoclements8017 yeah it’s very understandable, but some (more experienced) drivers can handle that and stay cool, so they can make the right decisions. But again: for a 21 year old fighting for his first GP win, very understandable.
@@leoclements8017 yes, butbthey are your team helping yoy
@@leoclements8017 ALL drivers needed to concentrate and he was the only one with Stroll to yell to his engineer, and we saw how it ended up for both...
@@leoclements8017 that's why they wanted him to pit to not spin out..
For those who don't appreciate SLH's personality, compare the conversations between him and his engineer, and Lando's. Go back all the way to back when SLH started in F1 if you want
SLH?
@@AwesomepowPOW Sir Lewis Hamilton
Lewis is ofc the best driver..but please stop comparing him with Lando in Russia..Lando was fighting for his 1st win! Lewis has 99 of them..Lando is in his 3rd year..Lewis is in his 14th year! 11years!!!
Lewis knows u need to stay calm in this situation and knows exacvtly how to act..He has had many close race wins
Slh? Who’s that
@@elfranko97 Sir Lewis Hamilton
When he shout shut up, it's basically end.
Imagine the outrage if Lewis says “yeah shut up Bono”
My thought exactly 💯
The racists would have a field day ... and they would claim it has nothing to do with race - he was just rude and arrogant.... but they dont complain about anybody else.
I mean, 70% of people didn't like that Lando told his engineer to shut up so...
@@johncale1849 lulu fans logic = ur racist cos u don't lick ham boots.
I guarantee if Ham was a white dude he'd get the same level of hate for being a hypocrite with his vegan go green attitude and his pagani driving + needing to treat bottas like trash. Ham gets less hate for being black since he can use the race and diversity card to escape his unprofessionalism in f1.
Everyone making excuses for Lando, but when you hear the full radio he was extremely immature and borderline selfish, and that's why he lost. The team was giving Lando respect as a decision maker and that was a mistake also
He was literally telling his engineer to shut up! Like dude you need the information to make a decision. So poor on his front
If he actually had the correct info the rain is getting heavier this would never have happened anyway
@@Ryh_Ryh he is not the only driver who yell at engineer to shut up
@@epicmetod I didn’t say that…
@@epicmetod who said it's ok because others do it?
It’s not about the speed, it’s about the decision
Yes
It's also about the speed of the decision.
@@saturdaysolitude7800 And the speed of the decision to be speedy with decisions
“He is getting overtaken by Mazepin on inters”
Don't forget Mazepin had the fastest lap in wet conditions at Spa. The guy is no joke in the rain.
:D
Underrated comment
@@MrHachex10 My comments are always underrated lol
@@FRPlayerOne how Nikita Mazes 🅱️ in got fastest lap on Belgium? Exceed track limits? Exceeding his delta during safety car?
He was actually but the FIA removed it for some reason.
So freaking cool. Heartbreaker for Lando! Congrats to Hamilton for getting to 100!
He should have taken the advice from his team but he was stubborn.
@@alexsimion7190 yea and i thought lewis was stubborn.. but he listened and it was a great decision, awesome race afterall
@@Moonlakes thats something which comes from experience , Lando is still a rookie .
@@medipeace307 you need to be experienced to listen to the permanent rain warning of your team?
LEWIS 100, 100 What a dramatic race
7:00 Bono saying to Lewis that Norris was getting passed by Mazepin. That was the exact moment when he knew he would win easily
07:32 The moment when Lando lost this race. Going by the pit entry and immediately bumping into the rainy-slippy track. Unbelievable! 😨
exactly what i was thinking, if the pit entry were to be 1 turn later he could have decided to go inters on that same lap
the race was already lost then. If he boxed he wouldve been behind hamilton. That's where he lost p2 which im sure he wouldve been just as dissapointed in getting
@@QwErTy-4252 Ham was 20 secs behind Norris at this point. A pit stop took 24 secs, so everything could be possible at this point.
As soon as he passed the pit lane turn, he started getting wheel spin. 🤦♂️ 💀
@@QwErTy-4252 a lot better than p7
Legendary race, a well deserved 100 win for Lewis!
I’m just so glad I’m alive to witness Lewis’s record breaking career!!!
Pivotal moments were: "Shut Up!" and "No!" rather than conversing and finding an optimal solution, it comes with experience. Rain made the race interesting and unpredictable real fast.
This is being blown way out of proportion. Lando has always said he doesn’t like a lot of radio messages while driving and often asks for silence. He is under the most pressure he has ever been leading with a chance of winning for the first time. He’s got a seven time world champion behind in a faster car constantly pressuring him. He’s trying to concentrate and he’s getting information he doesn’t care about regarding other cars. Drivers have said way worse things on the radio before. Remember that press conference where Lewis was asked about swearing on the radio and Seb defended him saying in the heat of the moment you’re not going to say things in a nice way.
I think that he was so focused (tunnel-visioned even) that he wasn't listening at all. I'm guessing that this is the part that comes with experience.
@@Summert2912 wow you did find a way to blame hamilton...
@@Summert2912 I'm sure that was because Lewis called Max a d***head, kinda different to swearing/shouting at your race engineer. Lando isn't too different to the other young drivers though, a lot of them can get a bit heated on the radio, except for Schumacher, he just beeps.
@@Danlorde definitely not blaming Hamilton. I was bringing up Seb’s explanation about team radio messages being made into something it’s not and was creating context so people knew which press conference I was talking about.
Vast difference between Lando and Daniel on the same inter question.
To Lando: "what do you think about inter?" - "NO!!!"
To Daniel: "do we need the inter?" - "yeah, i can't keep it on track, the hard's just got no temp" - "copy Daniel we'll box we'll box"
what if hamilton had new tyres then? would he stay out
McLaren trying to communicate in a crucial time for communication:
Lando: "Shut up!"
This is why F1 is a team sport. Your team isn't there to support you winning, you win as a team.
Is that Lando, Is that Lando going slowly ? That's Lando, oh my goodness me
Lando really must regret screaming at his engineers now
as he should
@UC2L4i7lH5VBONkLqR2FxJuA agreed!
I think it’s justified ,he’s so close to his maiden win the in wets of course he’s gonna be focused and irritable
Y U P HAHAHAHA
WHY WOULD HE REGRET TELLING HIS ENGINEER TO SHUT UP WHEN HE WAS JUST BEING HIMSELF???
I’ve never known Lewis to ever freak out on the radio. Complain sure (even though his complaints are mostly code to his team) but never lose his cool, even when it’s all going wrong. Even when his engineer is losing it, Lewis is the one to calm him down.
A true champion of champions.
…Actually, there was one small one:
Lewis: BLUE FLAG!
- Brazil 2008, but it was the closing seconds of the race that got him his first championship win…so that’s okay :)
The difference is definitely I think Mercedes’ being used to being in those high positions and able to command their drivers like that, where as it’s no longer as common for McLaren to be at the front of the field and not being as confident with those type of decisions.
The experience certainly helps but the key factor was Lewis being second with a free pit stop. Had the positions been reversed Lando would have pitted and Lewis would have stayed out. It’s a brave call to pit from the lead in these situations, and sometimes being second is the best position to be in!
@@MaximusOwen1 yess man. Its ridiculous how people say McLaren cost Norris the win. You're absolutely right!
@@anikethmalkari9416 did fans really blamed the team i didnt know that did they watched the race lol
@@MaximusOwen1 Why did they do the extra lap though? Lewis pitted first and Lando could had pitted the lap after. Instead they waited another lap and that's where it all went wrong. They pitted Danny first, they should have info from his car to see what was the right tyre to be on
Yes, quite possibly it was a simple lack of cohones.
“We just got to commit to staying” famous last words
😂😂😂
Ohhhh, so when they told Hamilton that there was more rain coming, Hamilton had already started going into the pit lane, so that comment about more rain coming wasn't a factor in Hamilton's decition to go in. He just trusted them. That extra info about more rain coming may have helped to make him feel more confident in their decision though.
Nice analysis mate!!!!!
Could have been a delay in the transmission too. They probably said that radio message before he got to the pits.
If Hamilton spoke to his engineer the way Norris did here there would be uproar from his hate club. All the comments haters make about Hamilton, or Verstappen or whoever with regards to how they behave in and out of the cars, they're all like it, it's competitive determination at 200mph. They don't have time to be nice, they only have time to be blunt and to the point. Engineers all know this, and will be used to dealing with fiery drivers.
Well said. In my opinion there should be no comment section on TH-cam, as most of the comments are from trolls. It's a shame that F1 now has the same sort of fans as football fans.
@@davidbrown8517 glad that your opinion is just that an opinion
@@davidbrown8517 no free speech then?
@@davidbrown8517 that’s so untrue f1 has amazing fans but the younger generation loves to hate on any and everything it’s sad
@@davidbrown8517 it’s not so much the fans in general it’s a small group mostly younger people that grew up in this culture of hating on each other instead of applauding greatness
Congratulations lewis. Number 100 for the number 1 guy in Formula 1. Let's get that 8th championship
The communication difference is amazing. On one side, a engineer is talking with a seven times world champion and giving precise and clear imformation. On the other side, a engineer is almost affraid to displease a young pilot and letting him to make a critical decision based on his feeling on the track.
I believe Lando will learn a lot after this what may be decisive to be a world champion in the future.
So Hamilton straight up trusted his team when they told him to pit the second time. He was already in the pit lane before they told him that rain would get worse. Thats teamwork
Reminds me of Sepang with the sudden change of weather.
It’s time to bring back Sepang
yea dude let's go!
I would love to see Sepang back on the calendar. Definitely should be on the calendar over some other circuits
@The champion He was chasing alonso and gaining time lap after lap. He lost control in the end and had to settle for P2
I would to sign a petition to bring back sepang.
That combination Lewis/Bono is pure gold!!
When your getting overtaken by Mazapin you know your in trouble
Lando disrespected Will by telling him to Shut Up,
He paid the price
Wow Will really dished out some karma there, didn't he? Bet McLaren is happy Lando got what he deserved /s
GP would've put him in his place.
Will Smith is friends with Lewis. I understand Lando's emotion.
Lando: (Fine HD transmission)
Lewis: (Jumping across multiple dimensions)
2 of my favourite drivers but gutted for Lando
Lando panicked so much, he couldn't stand the pressure from Lewis. His "shut up!" screams confirm this.
Exactly, his lack of experience showed when the pressure was on. Hopefully he learns from this and listens to his team next time.
@@braden2289 he needs to learn some respect
@@MrLillywhite2011 guys listen to my cool team radio i told my mechanic to shut up cause i know best and went on winning my first race. oh wait nvm
This shows exactly why F1 is a team effort and trust between the crew and the driver is essential in every race(win). Lando has learned a valuable lesson out of this. But then again, he still has so many awsome years in F1 to go. He will get there...
Experience shows the different between calm and anxious. I can understand lando feeling wanting to win it but . Can see Hamilton have full trust with the team engineer trusting their call. If only lando team was more firm with the call to bring him in he won’t fall behind so much
A learning curve for both Lando and their team, sometime the team should ask the driver to come in than asking if they want to. Man, Lando was driving so amazing this race before the rain. Rain spoiled Lando but saved Max a lot of points
As much as I like Lando, he got the result that he deserved. His petulant, know-it-all attitude cost him the race. His race engineers tried various ways to convince him to pit for inters but he thought he knew best.
exactly
He isn't as matured as the other top team drivers. Takes time to be matured enough to fight for the Championship
I think it was less know-it-all and more being so close to his first win and getting emotional
...also the fact that Lewis was behind he just couldn't bring himself to lose position regardless...and effectively Lewis did the undercut on him...Viola 👆
He’s always seemed like that
The ego on Lando. That P7 was well deserved. Shut up he tells his team. Shouts at them not to take inters and when they give him car settings to enter the pit gracefully. He needs taking down a peg or two. Glad Lewis, who was calm and respectful to his team took the advice and won to clinch the 100.
The moment LH pitted, Norris should have pitted. The team should have taken the charge as would not have lost much. Alteast P2 was confirmed even if he pitted on lap 50, that would have been enough
Agreed a sure second place for lando cause max was way back about 50+ seconds so in hindsight he should have pitted right after Lewis
Agree, but Lando is egotistic. I don't quite get why he is so desperate for that Win. Maybe peer pressure? He even thought of snatching that Win from his team mate in Monza. He got 2nd, the best finish of his F1 career, yet you could tell in his eyes he was envious of Ricciardo
@@overdoze7 He is a racing driver, many drivers would have done the same. is there anyone that can remember when raikkonen did almost the same thing
@@dendankegamer Harsh calling Lando egotistic when Lewis was about to make the same error himself. This wasn't just Lando at fault but the team also need to take responsibility for the loss. There is a subtle but key difference between the information Lewis got from his race engineer to that of Lando's which sealed the result. Lewis was told the rain was intensifying and it was wet at the far end of the track - even coming into the pits Lewis was unsure it was the right decision to switch to inters but trusted his team. Lando on the other had with the information he'd been given felt the conditions were tricky but manageable not realising the information was wrong and the conditions were getting worse. They were even asking him how he felt about going on inters rather than saying conditions have worsened pit for inters. So I think your critic of Lando is unfair based purely on how this race unfolded.
@Lim Heng 1st to pit will win, yeah that only works in hindsight of knowing it's about to hammer with rain. If you've been told it's not going to get worse then 1st to pit has lost as you're not making up a 25 second pit stop in 3 or 4 laps if the guys on slicks are only a few seconds a lap slower.... Lando was just in the lose lose situation. In the end it was a coin flip. Either they trust their weather prediction of not getting worse and stay out, or they ignore their own data and pit and hope they got the forecast wrong and Lewis then has to come in for inters after Lando. Awful situation.
Youth and aggression vs maturity and listening to the people who have your best interest at heart. Great life-lesson for us all.
It's 1 race Lando has lost out many times because of a poor strategy! They should let him decide at least for a few races
"We finished P7" that line from Will in that tone is enough to understand what happened😔
Honestly I get it's disappointing Lando lost but I don't understand this trend of everyone feeling bad for him. He cost himself the race. He didn't lose because of a freak failure or something. Big fan of McLaren but there's nothing to feel bad for. He made a mistake due to his inexperience and likely learned a valuable lesson.
He definitely made a bad call but his team should’ve overridden him as they had more information.
I agree. He was thinking too far ahead instead of lap by lap. What made me angry was the lack of communication between the team and Lando. We’ll get them next time
I feel bad for him too. If you listen to the radio messages he gets, they tell him it will not get worse (when 3/4 of the track was still dry) and that's what he based his decision to stay out on. The team should have called him in, instead of leaving the choice to him. So I can't blame him for making that call.
@@jonathanbarrios162 hmm I thought Lando told them to "Shut up shut up!!!". They just comply
I don’t think it’s really inexperience. Alonso, Perez, Leclerc and Vettel all stayed on the tyres too long and they’re not exactly inexperienced. Alonso was told the same as lando that the rain would not get worse
Masterclass, this is how you handle difficult times, calm and with a lot of confidence in what you have around you, Lewis handles it very well, the experience came into play big time here. Turn the table around and you would have way more nonsense comments about how Lewis was a loser for not listening to the pit wall, double standard at his best with some fan.
Hamilton and Mercedes are on another level.
5:20 if you think someone who talks to their team like this deserved to win your just a stan. I like Lando but you're in a gowns man sport with real life risk. You should act the part, this isn't the first time I've heard something like this from him and this is just childish. Stress and pressure are apart of the game. I don't feel sorry for him losing this win. He need to come back better, take accountability or he'll lose respect from the people in the team. I lost some respect for him today.
Yea he doesn’t even respect seb
I agree 100%. A lot of people here are saying his team should've done more but they literally told him "it's getting very wet, a lot of cars are going off track" and he told them to shut up. He also told his team "no we need to commit to staying on track" so it's very clear he wasn't going to change his mind. This is Landos fault 100% and I've also lost a lot of respect for him but that started last year when he asked his team "what is Carlos trying to be a hero or something?" When Carlos went off into the barriers. He sounds like a spoiled child which is sad because I really liked him at first.
Gosh enough of this backseat drivers stuff, yes it wasn’t ideal - that is unless if you can prove to me you can drive in 300km/h while having someone constantly talks into your ears in this stressful environment - Lando is just 21, be easy on him, he’s already showing some amazing talents.
@@standdbyme honestly a dumb thing to say, the reason these drivers are in F1 is because they've proven they CAN do all the things you mention. That's why they're paid the big bux. I don't need to be a mechanic to know when a car doesn't run and I don't need to be an F1 driver to see when a driver made a bad mistake. He's getting too cocky and he deserved this, hopefully next time he doesn't tell his team to shut up and listens to the advise.
Lando deserved the result he got, saying shut up to your engineer very bad practice and him thinking he knows better than everyone back at the garage.
If only Lando had pitted, Gutted when I saw him slide off the track. Will definitely be one of the greats in the future
not with his disrespectful attitude LOL.
Me and my dad thought the same , even if it had been on the next lap. Chuffed with the win for hamilton but it feels hollow
@@zuludeltanovember what do you mean
@@zuludeltanovember There are a lot of drivers with worse attitudes on the radio like Kimi/ Alonso/ Max. They’ve all shouted and sweared on the radio and they seem to be pretty successful.
I’ve heard a lot worse comments that drivers have made to their engineers than “shut up”.
Shut up! No! I don't quite get why Lando is so desperate for that Win. Maybe peer pressure? He was even thinking of snatching that Win from his team mate in Monza. He got 2nd, the best finish of his F1 career, yet you could tell in his eyes he was envious of Ricciardo
Lando's arrogance took away his victory refusing team orders and telling them to shut up next time trust the team
@LewisHamilton2020 I listened to it Lando's radio calls, it wasn't clear he should pit. I think the team missed the call, partly because Lando was really strong about staying out.
At the beginning (2:28) Lando is told: "We're expecting this intensity the whole race" and nobody tells him otherwise. Lewis is being told: "Rain intensity increasing" (2:40).
Lando was definitely on edge but the initial information both of them got and which created the framework in which they took the decisions are very different.
this
👌🏾🎯
And then did the race end there?? Did lando not see or feel the intensity of the rain increasing to go back to the team and say "Hey it's a different story out here"?
He's the goofball who had the nerve to tell his team to "shut up". Well, handle it then big man.
@@Agnelum1 oh no, the kiddo said to shut up, we will hide in dark corner and cry, won’t give him info anymore. It’s their work, to analyze situation and make decisions based on full info. Why don’t we hear “Lando box box” from Maclaren engineers? Oh, because they left young inexperienced boy to decide by himself, great work.
I was absolutely on the edge of my seat rooting for Lando.
BUT that is what we call a "teachable moment"!!
Experiences like these will carry him to championships.
lol
Hamilton is truly amazing
When I heard the result and what happened to Lando so late on I felt sorry for him. Not so much now after seeing this. He got what he deserved. Being disrespectful to your crew is a big no no. They got you to where you were.
2:29 First warning for Lando to take the right decision 3:21 second warning 4:49 Blunder begins
3:21 was crucial for me.
Agree. There were a lot of warning signs. He just needed to ask, instead of saying the magic word "Shut up" .
@@overdoze7 right. "Shut up" ruined his race
I don't know but it's very strong for you to have everything and then nothing, lando really deserved all that, the important thing is that he learned and gained experience, maybe next time lando will be pole.
Had Lando not been so quick to shut the communication down, he'd have finished a lot higher than 7th. I feel for him, but the adrenaline was clearly pumping.
I'd heard the radio before, but it wasn't until I could see where the cars were that I realised Lewis followed the instruction to pit BEFORE Bono told him more rain was coming. I assumed he only pitted after that information. I am now more impressed as at that point he had the same level of weather understanding as Lando.
Yep, but people are trying to make it out as if that was the deciding factor and McLaren didn't give the same information to Norris. Both drivers appear to have been given almost identical information at similar times during the race and they both made a judgement call based on said information.
Lewis was explicitly told that the rain intensity was increasing 2:36, while Lando was told that the intensity will stay to the end of the race 2:24. Both are different messages, one implies the conditions will worsen and the other implies the conditions will stay how they are at that moment.
@@subsist99 it's funny, when I listen to it in full it sounds like that is in relation to conditions on track at that point (i.e. from no rain to rain). Especially given it then stopped before it then started again, which I think is the bit that Merc got right and McLaren didn't.
@@subsist99
Again you're wrong, that message was after Lewis was already entering the pit and not before. Also, the intensity not increasing doesn't mean the track won't progressively get wetter, I don't think the rain really intensified that much, it's just that the track got wetter as the rain continued and Norris was told as much.
@@peterporkeresq.2817 No. Lewis pits at 6:05. Yes, after he's committed he gets told "there's more coming", but as @subsist99 said, he was also told that earlier.
Lando cost himself the race haha
Mazepin's communication with his team in the changing weather was interesting too.
To Mazepin: "expect this rain to continue to the end of the race, just like this, not getting any worse"
Mazepin: "copy... The rain is quite s***... We need to box, we need to box for the inters"
To Mazepin: "we hear your message on tyres. Are you sure we need inters?"
Mazepin: "yes, yeah, otherwise i cannot keep it on track"
To Mazepin: "what about soft? Could you survive on softs?"
Mazepin: "negative"
To Mazepin: "understood, box Nikita box!"
Lewis and Bono are the dream team! 🏆🐐
They are my children.