Nice Video. Recommend you put in a blog, with table and also included estimate Masters numbers. I reckon that will be great for SEO. Questions 1. Does it make sense for an athlete who's way behind on minimum strength numbers to kind of ignore the open from a programming perspective? Maybe even ignore crossfit and just focus on getting strong for 2-3 years? 2. Masters Question: At what age have you kind of missed the boat in adding maximal strength? (e.g. Starting crossfit in your mid 30's with a low back squat and struggle to build to minimum. 3. TTT Compete Question: Given strength has been identified major weakness does Open Prep make sense? If not what would TTT recommend? TTT Coaching, What is the strength course you refer to in the podcast? Or just a linear progression program 5/3/1 or similar? Context: 40yr old male been doing xfit for 7 years. Classes, TTT intermediate. Who has identified for a number maximal strength is the main limiter. e.g Crushed on 23.2B, 23.1 - on time for top 10% crushed by cleans, 23.3 weight 2 squat snatch. Tried to run a number off off season cycle 5/3/1, hatch, smolov, 5x5 .. but it seems like i add 10% strength p.a., lose 5% in open prep and I'm not really moving the needle year to year.
Not a question but a tiny request if I could? It would be super helpful to include these numbers in kilos for the next one (here I was furiously saying Hey Siri what's this conversion throughout the whole thing!) 😂 but this was super helpful as a borderline rx athlete to understand where to focus my progress moving forward thanks so much guys!
Adler is a good example of an athlete who never really needed to get stronger, it was more important for him to increase Barbell cycling rates and have a better “battery” (lactic threshold). Once he fixed those and his general fitness he became a contender at every event. Watching him improve from the Covid games to now has been remarkable.
Little late to the party but I had rotator cuff surgery. My surgeon said that I will never have to worry about osteoporosis because of all the lifting I've done. My bones were so dense he thought that he was going to break my humerus putting the anchors in. The strength we do while we want to do it to look good, feel good, and for some to compete at a certain level. But the health benefits from lifting weights is far beyond just those 3 things.
Wow that podcast, right in time for a lot of us. Intermediate/rx myself you just gave me a little comfort after my testing week wich i made more or less these exact number. (365lbs dl, 250,195 for men if i understood correctly?) Thank you very much this was really really informative and gives confidence in the work i've put in. Happy new year.
Interesting comment on strict press. I am terrible at strict HSPU, okish at regular, and get only 66% of body weight overhead strict while you recommend at least 1:1. Problem is, the strict press seems to react minimally to training stimuli (at least for me).
As an athlete who comes from a bodybuilding/powerlifting background with compound lift numbers that should “transition” to heavier Olympic lifts. Is just simple reps of Olympic lifts over time going to work for getting to those elite numbers or what technical or skill work could help use the full potential of the strength side that’s already there??
This depends on how limited your are by your technique. Powerlifters and (some) bodybuilders aren’t necessarily known for their flexibility/mobility so if that’s your limitation, then you need time to let your body adjust to these new positions to express the strength you already have.
It depending at your goal, strength is probably not the most important thing. If you want to win, then it obviously matters more, especially to try and win the strength events. But you could probably be closer to a bubble semi final level strength profile and make it to the games AS LONG AS your well rounded in the other areas and you function well together as a unit. In terms of the worm, getting stronger may help with this, but you also need time to practice being smooth with it. When four people can move fluidly together, the worm tends to feel less hard. When it’s choppy /segmented, you’ll feel the weight especially as it crashes on you.
As a former CFG team competitor, I can say with 100% certainty that strength is a pre-requisite for moving the worm / sleds / etc that are required at the games level.
Not 10th in that event, but overall. So I'm looking at a 245 snatch and 300 clean and jerk to play the game. In order to hit those you probably need minimum a 500 deadlift, 400 back squat, strict press 185. Those power numbers may even be more important because they will likely also translate to non-barbell stuff like heavier sandbags, dumbbells, etc.
Are smaller athletes at a disadvantage when it comes to strength, considering their body weight to lifting ratio is going to be much more challenging than heavier athletes?
Haha he mentioned switching to squat clean instead of power, how about an athlete that powers cleans 315 sq cleans 280 Snatch power and sq 240 never choosing a squat in any workout always power
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Male athlete - 245 snatch, 315 C&J, 400 back squat, 350 front squat, 475 deadlift minimums
Can we have one on ‘How fit do you need to be’. Like all the machine numbers and running metrics
Nice Video. Recommend you put in a blog, with table and also included estimate Masters numbers. I reckon that will be great for SEO.
Questions
1. Does it make sense for an athlete who's way behind on minimum strength numbers to kind of ignore the open from a programming perspective? Maybe even ignore crossfit and just focus on getting strong for 2-3 years?
2. Masters Question: At what age have you kind of missed the boat in adding maximal strength? (e.g. Starting crossfit in your mid 30's with a low back squat and struggle to build to minimum.
3. TTT Compete Question: Given strength has been identified major weakness does Open Prep make sense? If not what would TTT recommend? TTT Coaching, What is the strength course you refer to in the podcast? Or just a linear progression program 5/3/1 or similar?
Context: 40yr old male been doing xfit for 7 years. Classes, TTT intermediate. Who has identified for a number maximal strength is the main limiter. e.g Crushed on 23.2B, 23.1 - on time for top 10% crushed by cleans, 23.3 weight 2 squat snatch.
Tried to run a number off off season cycle 5/3/1, hatch, smolov, 5x5 .. but it seems like i add 10% strength p.a., lose 5% in open prep and I'm not really moving the needle year to year.
Not a question but a tiny request if I could? It would be super helpful to include these numbers in kilos for the next one (here I was furiously saying Hey Siri what's this conversion throughout the whole thing!) 😂 but this was super helpful as a borderline rx athlete to understand where to focus my progress moving forward thanks so much guys!
Adler is a good example of an athlete who never really needed to get stronger, it was more important for him to increase Barbell cycling rates and have a better “battery” (lactic threshold). Once he fixed those and his general fitness he became a contender at every event.
Watching him improve from the Covid games to now has been remarkable.
Fire episode again..so many clarifying concepts & targets
Little late to the party but I had rotator cuff surgery. My surgeon said that I will never have to worry about osteoporosis because of all the lifting I've done. My bones were so dense he thought that he was going to break my humerus putting the anchors in. The strength we do while we want to do it to look good, feel good, and for some to compete at a certain level. But the health benefits from lifting weights is far beyond just those 3 things.
Wow that podcast, right in time for a lot of us. Intermediate/rx myself you just gave me a little comfort after my testing week wich i made more or less these exact number. (365lbs dl, 250,195 for men if i understood correctly?) Thank you very much this was really really informative and gives confidence in the work i've put in. Happy new year.
Interesting comment on strict press. I am terrible at strict HSPU, okish at regular, and get only 66% of body weight overhead strict while you recommend at least 1:1. Problem is, the strict press seems to react minimally to training stimuli (at least for me).
What would be the best training for a beginner to mainly focus on or is there a best ?
Here's a thought - is a 10RM more relevant to competition performance than a 1rm?
As an athlete who comes from a bodybuilding/powerlifting background with compound lift numbers that should “transition” to heavier Olympic lifts. Is just simple reps of Olympic lifts over time going to work for getting to those elite numbers or what technical or skill work could help use the full potential of the strength side that’s already there??
This depends on how limited your are by your technique. Powerlifters and (some) bodybuilders aren’t necessarily known for their flexibility/mobility so if that’s your limitation, then you need time to let your body adjust to these new positions to express the strength you already have.
Nice job! I still like how Barbell Shrugged covered this topic way back when…
I’m pursuing going to the CFG as team member. How does strength varies for a team competitor? Does getting strong helps you with the worm for example?
It depending at your goal, strength is probably not the most important thing. If you want to win, then it obviously matters more, especially to try and win the strength events. But you could probably be closer to a bubble semi final level strength profile and make it to the games AS LONG AS your well rounded in the other areas and you function well together as a unit.
In terms of the worm, getting stronger may help with this, but you also need time to practice being smooth with it. When four people can move fluidly together, the worm tends to feel less hard. When it’s choppy /segmented, you’ll feel the weight especially as it crashes on you.
As a former CFG team competitor, I can say with 100% certainty that strength is a pre-requisite for moving the worm / sleds / etc that are required at the games level.
Jelle Hoste totaled 545 at the Games this year and finished 10th
Not 10th in that event, but overall. So I'm looking at a 245 snatch and 300 clean and jerk to play the game. In order to hit those you probably need minimum a 500 deadlift, 400 back squat, strict press 185. Those power numbers may even be more important because they will likely also translate to non-barbell stuff like heavier sandbags, dumbbells, etc.
6:51 are we talking raw powerlifting numbers in a non-sauced setting or anything goes?
I think we looked at raw natural lifting totals when we referenced this.
@@maxel-hag4389 good to know. I was thinking it would be hard to compare a Dan Green total to anyone, ever 😂
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Are smaller athletes at a disadvantage when it comes to strength, considering their body weight to lifting ratio is going to be much more challenging than heavier athletes?
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At 20m 20s. Isn't the grace world record held by Eddie Hall?
It’s a great time for Isabel but what he did could not be called Grace
@@3r123 that's fair
Please start including kg numbers too. You can't enjoy the video if you are constantly trying to work numbers out in your head
Haha he mentioned switching to squat clean instead of power, how about an athlete that powers cleans 315 sq cleans 280
Snatch power and sq 240 never choosing a squat in any workout always power
Shows a lack of technical development. Continue improving movement patterns.
Fifty-six long minutes later. Wow this is fascinating...that these three guys are just realizing that CrossFit...is well CrossFit.🙄🤣
You must be new here, huh?
What does this comment even mean?
@@bradylynch8843 I'm hardly "new" to CrossFit or lifting. In fact, very likely that I've been lifting much longer than you've been alive, Brady.
@@vanillaghetto then explain what your comment meant
You're the biggest dork @@vanillaghetto