Fun Fact: Lusimines husband isn’t actually dead, he’s actually the island guy form the poke pelego islands, there are cut sense in ultra sun/moon that confirm this.
Also the book. There’s a book (in both games iirc) in one of the secret basement lab rooms that basically confirms it. Being that it mentions a researcher by the same name who used to study ultra wormholes and was lost into one.
Apparently, the manga was even darker. In the manga, Faba was actually behind everything, as he was the one who pushed Mohn into the wormhole because he was lusting after Lusamine and wanted her for himself. When she continued to reject his advances, he further pushed her into insanity and tried to destroy her family purely out of spite.
@@senakuma9985 fortunately, he’s hunted down by the main character’s Meowth out of revenge and then dragged off into ultra space in the end by a swarm of Nihilego, which inject neurotoxins into him.
Jeez that's dark. Like I get him lusting over lusamine(who doesn't?) but "killing" her husband and driving her insane? Pokemon manga do be hitting different
As creepy as Lusamine herself is, I think the Ultra Beast that has been at the center of the story for most of the game is even creepier; Nihilego. After reading Pokedex entries on this thing and getting an understanding of what it's about, Nihilego... legitimately terrifies me. It's known to latch onto humans and Pokemon, then inject them with a special neurotoxin that deactivates inhibitions and puts them in a state of heightened excitement in order to bring out latent potential in the host, which normally takes the form of them becoming more violent. While searching for her husband, Lusamine found Nihilego in Ultra Space, and it did its thing to Lusamine which is what caused her to go insane. Her obsession shifted from finding her husband to Nihilego itself, and explains part of her controlling behavior to her children. When Lillie and Nihilego were first revealed, a lot of us were convinced that Lillie was Nihilego in disguise, but the truth ended up being more tragic; Lusamine forces Lillie to dress up in a way that resembles Nihilego because that's what's important to her now. Her caring for injured or endangered Pokemon also shifted to eternal preservation via freezing, and overall a woman in a position of authority became a deranged lunatic obsessed with otherworldly forces, which really does make for a really dangerous antagonist. All this because of a jellyfish made of glass. And it's not even supposed to be the most dangerous of the Ultra Beasts.
Ima guess naganadel, being the only ultra beast species which evolves (apparently buzzwole and pheremosa do a similar thing but they’re the same Pokemon rather than evolutions of each other), is the most powerful one?
@@that_dwayneee I don't actually consider Naganadel all that dangerous compared to the other beasts. In fact, canonically that family is a popular species of Pokemon in whatever world it hales from. If I had to judge them based on what the lore says about them, Guzzlord is easily the most dangerous. It eats absolutely everything in sight and has an insatiable apetite. Look at what it did in its home world; that thing will bring about the apocalypse if nobody catches it here.
I don’t know but whenever people start drinking juice with that 18+ sticker plastered on it they start acting like Nihilego has latched onto them but don’t worry it wears of quickly
To all the people wondering why Lusamine didn't fight you in her Ultra Beast form... Lusamine was obsessed with Nihilego. *Do you really think she would want to risk hurting Nihilego at that point?*
Yes, and No No because she wouldn't want Nihilego to get hurt But Yes because she would probably do it to prove a point; that Nihilego is superior and that she'll show you why
@@xxmansoorxx2000 thing is, that Nihilego is owned by her and she is in a symbiotic fusion with it. Nihilego feeds on negative emotions while giving positive emotions while slowly killing the victim with venom, so she took out the venom killing part and just use Nihilego for the fake emotion swapping. But she's in control of it since she technically is Nihilego 's trainer.
I feel like the game lusamine and the anime lusamine are entierly different people. In th games, she's incredibly psychotic. however, she is seen as very sweet and loving in the anime, regretting not being able to spend much time with here children. the difference between these characters make me think that there is no way they had the same story
I think the anime chose to deviate from Lusamine's game counterpart because the Sun and Moon anime was skewed more towards younger viewers. The writers probably thought giving one of its main characters an abusive parent who has frozen Pokemon bodies on display would be too upsetting for its demographic, so they altered her character to be a flawed but still loving parent at the cost of Lusamine losing her villainous edge.
@@cassie6146 I wouldn’t really say it was skewed towards younger viewers but I think they just didn’t wanna go through with that storyline in the anime
@@primarinegaming6761 Especially with how overwhelmingly lighthearted the SM Anime was. Even despite the sad stuff like Stoutland's death & Mallow seeing her dead mother again, I think those were sad, but not fucked up like game Lusamine would've been like.
@@cassie6146 The anime vaporized Lysandre on screen while he was screaming in fear. I think the viewers that can handle that could handle game Lusamine.
Sun and Moon was the peak for villains/antagonists. They bait n switch they did with team skull being a "decoy" evil team, and having Lusamine and the Aether Foundation being the true evil really worked. its kinda shocking how 3D and vivid they make the lusamine/lilly/gladion dynamic.
Definitely one of my favorite stories in the series. The one time where the main goal isn’t to stop a regional takeover or global destruction but rather trying to help heal or bring closure to a broken family. Such a shame Ultra had to butcher it just to shove Necrozma in there.
Seriously, such a let down it was just an ordinary Pokémon battle. Fused Lusamine should have used the same mechanics as a totem battle, with herself as the "totem", and calling out her team as the 2v1 adds.
With the sorta of like ACTUAL battle with pokemon in Legends Arceus with like balms and stuff I really hope one day we can battle her like that, she'd honestly could be a hard yet terrifying boss
Funny how the only thing I remember about Lusamine is the conversation when Hau compliments how beautiful lusamine looks and looks like in her 20s 30s idk and she says she is way into her 40s and hau is like WHAT?! that will be always in graved into my brain
You forgot to say that her obsessions came from her intoxication from nihilego’s toxins! She must have encountered a nihilego when trying to find her husband in an experiment- getting away from the encounter- but still effected by it’s toxin. By the end of the climax the toxin seemingly wore off so… that’s that. I LOVE LUSAMINE so I’m happy to see a video abt her ((: !
I always thought that by the end of Sun and Moon that she was put into a coma from neurotoxins that were injected into her body from fusing with Nihlego and that she might never wake up again. Ultra Sun and Moon redeemed her by not only keeping her alive but also allowing her to forgive her children and recognize that they grew up throughout their journey with you.
I think that all of what you said is what makes Ultra Sun more scary. Spoilers: In Ultra Sun, for the most part the story is the same and Lusamine is just as threatening, however in the final scene where you’re about to head into Ultra Space to chase her, a portal opens up and she and Guzma falls out. Lusamine then shouts at her kid to run as Necrozma appears behind them, giving us a clear idea that what we are facing is beyond even Lusamine’s capabilities. It’s wild man.
Idk taking one of the darkest villains we've had, weakening her motives and taking away her charisma, and then having her get beaten up off screen just to gas up a generic monster kinda sounds like bad writing to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I've said in the past that Lusamine's story is cosmic horror and honestly, I stand by that. Even if USUM did kneecap the story by having her just get spit back out a while later no harm done, she still experienced classic Lovecraftian madness and did horrible things to see "her lovely Beast" again. But I also don't think her kids should have been so quick to forgive and forget so... what do I know
You know, while she did get away with nearly destroying Alola... only her daughter and a 10 year old know... and there is little proof... And while she froze those Pokemon... Pokemon are much more receptive to feelings than humans, so they'd probably forgive her once unfrozen....
1. Nihilego infused with Lusamine would have been a epic battle 2. It's interesting that she was evil in Ultra Sun and Moon as well but we never got to see her ultra beast form in that game due to Necrozma. Guess Necrozma was a big factor to make her afraid.
Lusamine talked about how we put Pokémon in boxes when no other villain attempts to cover that side of the Pokémon World. Not even Team Plasma. Now that's pretty disturbing.
This generation was THIS close to perfection, it was this close to embrace the lovecraftian side of pokemon, but of course game freak was too greedy to give us a complete experience (no, you dont need bloodshed if you can make a good story)
You know what? Yes. It has good story, the totem battles were interesting and new, I really liked a lot of Alolan Pokemon. Both regional forms and z moves were good ideas. Sun and moon did a lot right.
Lusamine's story and the arcs of everyone in the family are why Sun and Moon have my favorite story in the series. Lillie's theme still makes me cry, as does her scene with Lusamine at the very end.
The OST in the basement from the Aether Foundation was so well made, it perfectly reflected the horror of the experiments which have taken place in their laboratories. Could be straight out of a horror game or film.
I hope that if there’s going to be a switch remake that we get to fight lusamine/nihilego, sun and moon, for me at least, has the best story of the ones I’ve played (which is most of them), I love the region, the Pokémon, and the mechanics, I really hope we get a new and improved version
Lusamine is the creepiest and craziest Pokémon villain to exist. I mean Ghetsis tries to kill you, but Lusamine freezes Pokémon for her own personal collection and she gets corrupted by a parasitic life form that creates strong neurotoxin.
Lusamine goes down a chaotic spiral of doing anything to get what she wants. Creepiest, but definitely not as evil as Ghetsis, even if he is more mentally sound.
@@yharim180 makes me wonder if Ghetsis beats ganondorf (OoT) because, despite planning world takeover, ganondorf did seem to actually have a moral code. He didn’t kill Young Link at first when he easily could have, and just played fair until his castle got blown to pieces. Then there’s the child murdering lettuce haired visually impaired psychopath that attempts to murder a child just so they don’t stop kyurem from blasting the world with ice.
Well I don't know how Lusamine acts in the Manga, but Manga Ghetsis beat the shit out of N. Hang the gym leaders in a cross in front of the Pokémon league and more. He didn't try to hesitate to murder the shit out of you either which I think is pretty dark. Also his plan of murder was to 'freeze' you but it was frozen shards and I'm definitely sure it's not gonna freeze you lol
I've watched pokémon Sun&Moon like 20 times already so Lusamine's villain form thingy isn't so sad or creepy to me anymore, I just like her new fancy looks
@@gil2644 I mean that the actual game developers make the extra body features that the you know where they appear. The breeding process is still drawn by the 34 artist.
Personally Pokemon didn't get bad until SWSH, people still rag on these games for some reason but I think they're amazing. With possiblely one of the best stories we've ever gotten (yes I think its better than BW but to each their own), fluid gameplay, and the last appearance of something resembling a difficulty setting (my biggest gripe with the newer games), everything just comes together for a bloody perfect game!
i have to say the DP remakes are proving to be amazing so far(and yes the glitches in fact ADD to their awesomeness), just proof that Gamefreak should outsource/collab more
Ok going back and seeing this makes me think about that one Pokemon Manga that involved people fusing with the pokemon basically being them in battles which I guess makes it a nice reference to it even if its not crystals giving this form its still super cool to see it happen
6:02 I think there's a character that actually says they would wait until the frozen pokemon would wake up or that they would look after them until they recover so they're probably okay
I personally get a Darth Vader/Venom vibe with Lusamine's character. In fact, I think she has a similar arc like those other characters mentioned. Lillie I think is like if Leia went to face Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi while Luke is either dead or elsewhere. Gladion I think could be Luke. Or maybe the roles can be switched. Lillie is Luke and Gladion is Leia. It's essentially the "I am your father" moment but switched to a mother and daughter dynamic. I think Giovanni in Ultra sun and moon can be like emperor palpitatine even if Lusamine's character is different in that story.
It's not like death is a rare concept in Pokemon. We've got museums full of bones, dead bone mommy ghost (killed by team Rocket, probably straight up SHOT), human spirits trapped in masks, magikarp sushi, a god of death who kills everything around it, a superweapon built out of revenge for the killing of a man's Pokemon, which used said god of death by sucking the life energy out of nearly the entire country to fire its extinction blast and end a brutal world war... fuck, X and Y were BRUTAL
They didn’t ruin her character of the story…the whole point of the ultra games are that they are a different universe it’s really not that hard to understand
@@primarinegaming6761 Yes, but you could argue her character is less interesting & overall more boring in USUM. She's not really a villain, which upset MANY people.
Ah Pokémon SM/USUM Child abuse Animal abuse Broken family Death Mental issues Pokémon literally dying Dead ghost girl Inappropriate references Genocide Alien invasion Pokémon human hybrid And litten
I honestly can't wait for gen 7 remakes, hopefully by then Gamefreak will make better games. Gen 7 was probably my favorite, but it definitely needs streamlining, even the ultra versions.
While I got into Pokemon during Gen 6 I never actually played my first game until Gen 7 with Sun & Moon. I played Sun and my brother played Moon, it was both of our first Pokemon games ever and WOW did that scene blow me away. My 13 year old (probably) brain was blown. Lusamine was a great and, for me, unexpected villain and Nihilego was the creepiest thing to crawl out of that game. I actually disliked the Ultra Beasts at first on design alone, eventually they grew on me though and now they're some of my favorite Pokemon just due to their lore and how freakish they look and act.
I really wish the ultra games didn't backtrack Lusamine's character from super evil to just misunderstood mom...i love her character but the villain nerfing is kinda as annoying as not being able to fight her fused form! then again considering the alternative that scarlet and violet shown in what'd happen if you let the villain go full insane without being stopped....
I still find Ghetsis to be creepier because to my recollection he is the first Pokemon villain (and I think still the only) that actually tries to kill you. He straight up tries to impale you with ice in Black 2 and White 2.
I'm so mad we don't get to save the frozen pokemon, but at least we got to save the third silvally in a sense when they distributed it over mystery gift
Lusamine is my favourite character in the entire Pokemon franchise. These games story (especially the family tragedy) is really good for pokemon standards. Base Sun and Moon are my favourite main line games. I only dislike the Ultra Sun & Moon story since Lusamine acts like her usual creepy self...only to "save the world" at the end? That just sounds stupid.
It actually makes perfect sense why Lusamine would use her own Pokemon instead of fighting you herself. Why would she want to risk any harm to her perfect little Nihilego?
Agreed, it would’ve been really cool if we could still fight alien lucemine (yes I forgot how to spell her name) but hey, fighting the true form of Necrozma was honestly easier than this a battle appears to be, especially if you over level one of your Pokémon (something I did with my primarina, as it was very easy to beat necrozma
She was fucking scary until she used pokemons. YOU ARE A LITERAL FUSION WITH SUPERPOWERS! USE YOUR CAPACITY! If we were able to beat the crap out of her from the start the boss would be so cool
Mix the obsessions of Cyrus with the parenting of Ghetsis and you got yourself a Lusamine
Facts
What parenting?
@@Swagsire_ In Pokemon Black and White, it is heavily implied Ghetsis was abusive towards N.
@@TimBurtonPrincess I… know
It was just a joke to say how bad it was
@@Swagsire_ Sorry, my bad....got confused!
Fun Fact: Lusimines husband isn’t actually dead, he’s actually the island guy form the poke pelego islands, there are cut sense in ultra sun/moon that confirm this.
Also the book. There’s a book (in both games iirc) in one of the secret basement lab rooms that basically confirms it. Being that it mentions a researcher by the same name who used to study ultra wormholes and was lost into one.
You see, his wife didn't like him flicking her bean, so he went to an island for the sole purpose of flicking beans.
@@MDLuffy1234YT 😭💀💀
oh
That's actually, really sad
Apparently, the manga was even darker. In the manga, Faba was actually behind everything, as he was the one who pushed Mohn into the wormhole because he was lusting after Lusamine and wanted her for himself. When she continued to reject his advances, he further pushed her into insanity and tried to destroy her family purely out of spite.
ok thats it. I will never like faba again he is already an arse in the anime and reading this, I will never want to like faba again
Now that's just straight FUCKED UP 0-0
@@senakuma9985 fortunately, he’s hunted down by the main character’s Meowth out of revenge and then dragged off into ultra space in the end by a swarm of Nihilego, which inject neurotoxins into him.
@@hamishstewart5324 thats sounds like a fkn hell. A SWARM OF THOSE THINGS?! JESUS FKN CHRIST THE HORROR
Jeez that's dark. Like I get him lusting over lusamine(who doesn't?) but "killing" her husband and driving her insane?
Pokemon manga do be hitting different
As creepy as Lusamine herself is, I think the Ultra Beast that has been at the center of the story for most of the game is even creepier; Nihilego. After reading Pokedex entries on this thing and getting an understanding of what it's about, Nihilego... legitimately terrifies me. It's known to latch onto humans and Pokemon, then inject them with a special neurotoxin that deactivates inhibitions and puts them in a state of heightened excitement in order to bring out latent potential in the host, which normally takes the form of them becoming more violent. While searching for her husband, Lusamine found Nihilego in Ultra Space, and it did its thing to Lusamine which is what caused her to go insane. Her obsession shifted from finding her husband to Nihilego itself, and explains part of her controlling behavior to her children. When Lillie and Nihilego were first revealed, a lot of us were convinced that Lillie was Nihilego in disguise, but the truth ended up being more tragic; Lusamine forces Lillie to dress up in a way that resembles Nihilego because that's what's important to her now. Her caring for injured or endangered Pokemon also shifted to eternal preservation via freezing, and overall a woman in a position of authority became a deranged lunatic obsessed with otherworldly forces, which really does make for a really dangerous antagonist.
All this because of a jellyfish made of glass. And it's not even supposed to be the most dangerous of the Ultra Beasts.
Ima guess naganadel, being the only ultra beast species which evolves (apparently buzzwole and pheremosa do a similar thing but they’re the same Pokemon rather than evolutions of each other), is the most powerful one?
@@that_dwayneee I don't actually consider Naganadel all that dangerous compared to the other beasts. In fact, canonically that family is a popular species of Pokemon in whatever world it hales from. If I had to judge them based on what the lore says about them, Guzzlord is easily the most dangerous. It eats absolutely everything in sight and has an insatiable apetite. Look at what it did in its home world; that thing will bring about the apocalypse if nobody catches it here.
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I don’t know but whenever people start drinking juice with that 18+ sticker plastered on it they start acting like Nihilego has latched onto them but don’t worry it wears of quickly
Isn't the colors of nihilego and lusamine same as necrozma
To all the people wondering why Lusamine didn't fight you in her Ultra Beast form... Lusamine was obsessed with Nihilego.
*Do you really think she would want to risk hurting Nihilego at that point?*
Yes, and No
No because she wouldn't want Nihilego to get hurt
But Yes because she would probably do it to prove a point; that Nihilego is superior and that she'll show you why
The pokedex says that this Pokémon controls people so she was controlled by niggahalolego but I guess she wanted to battle you in a Pokémon battle
@@xxmansoorxx2000 Bruh
It's like Chobin in Pokemon XD with Robo Groudon...
@@xxmansoorxx2000 thing is, that Nihilego is owned by her and she is in a symbiotic fusion with it. Nihilego feeds on negative emotions while giving positive emotions while slowly killing the victim with venom, so she took out the venom killing part and just use Nihilego for the fake emotion swapping. But she's in control of it since she technically is Nihilego 's trainer.
I feel like the game lusamine and the anime lusamine are entierly different people.
In th games, she's incredibly psychotic. however, she is seen as very sweet and loving in the anime, regretting not being able to spend much time with here children. the difference between these characters make me think that there is no way they had the same story
I think the anime chose to deviate from Lusamine's game counterpart because the Sun and Moon anime was skewed more towards younger viewers. The writers probably thought giving one of its main characters an abusive parent who has frozen Pokemon bodies on display would be too upsetting for its demographic, so they altered her character to be a flawed but still loving parent at the cost of Lusamine losing her villainous edge.
Even in terms of games, vanilla Sun & Moon Lusamine and Ultra Lusamine are two very different characters.
@@cassie6146 I wouldn’t really say it was skewed towards younger viewers but I think they just didn’t wanna go through with that storyline in the anime
@@primarinegaming6761 Especially with how overwhelmingly lighthearted the SM Anime was.
Even despite the sad stuff like Stoutland's death & Mallow seeing her dead mother again, I think those were sad, but not fucked up like game Lusamine would've been like.
@@cassie6146 The anime vaporized Lysandre on screen while he was screaming in fear. I think the viewers that can handle that could handle game Lusamine.
Sun and Moon was the peak for villains/antagonists. They bait n switch they did with team skull being a "decoy" evil team, and having Lusamine and the Aether Foundation being the true evil really worked. its kinda shocking how 3D and vivid they make the lusamine/lilly/gladion dynamic.
Definitely one of my favorite stories in the series. The one time where the main goal isn’t to stop a regional takeover or global destruction but rather trying to help heal or bring closure to a broken family. Such a shame Ultra had to butcher it just to shove Necrozma in there.
Let's just forget ultra....
@@ericwalker2434 meh, ultra games are one of the best
@@GigaChadThe69th the slight difficulty increase and the space/water surfing were the only good parts imo
It is cool, but the protag feels shoehorned in
@@ericwalker2434 ultra gameplay (excluding ultra necrozma) with the story of sun and moon is my dream game.
Behind a kirby rpg of course
I also like the fact the Nihilego resembles Lillie as if she saw Nihilego as her daughter instead of Lillie.
This literally happened in the anime are you from the future.
@@team_rocket2313 Nope but this isn't the first time I predicted the future.
Wow
@ArmanAditya Basu I am proud of that.
That's because Lusamine forced Lillie to dress as a Nihilego. And Lusamine herself dresses as a Pheromosa.
It always sucked that you didn't get to battle lusamine directly after she fused.
Seriously, such a let down it was just an ordinary Pokémon battle. Fused Lusamine should have used the same mechanics as a totem battle, with herself as the "totem", and calling out her team as the 2v1 adds.
With the sorta of like ACTUAL battle with pokemon in Legends Arceus with like balms and stuff I really hope one day we can battle her like that, she'd honestly could be a hard yet terrifying boss
Eternamax Eternatus seems to have been an attempt to make uyp for this.
@@EmeralBookwise fused lusamine = fusamine
As much as that would be a better concept (because I always wondered that for years), wouldn't that kill Lusamine within the Ultra Beast?
Funny how the only thing I remember about Lusamine is the conversation when Hau compliments how beautiful lusamine looks and looks like in her 20s 30s idk and she says she is way into her 40s and hau is like WHAT?! that will be always in graved into my brain
I always like the part where she fuse with the Nihilego, she’s the second human Pokemon character in the main series to play the Pokémon human fusion.
what's the other one help im dumb
@@skyiloh7460 Bill back from gen 1.
I wonder if the characters from the ReBURST manga would qualify since they're a different continuity and all.
@@BJGvideos Probably, but I exclude them because they’re not from the main series, makes them kinda a cheating choice to me.
@@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 would ashs greninja count for this considering the whole ash greninja thing?
You forgot to say that her obsessions came from her intoxication from nihilego’s toxins! She must have encountered a nihilego when trying to find her husband in an experiment- getting away from the encounter- but still effected by it’s toxin. By the end of the climax the toxin seemingly wore off so… that’s that. I LOVE LUSAMINE so I’m happy to see a video abt her ((: !
I always thought that by the end of Sun and Moon that she was put into a coma from neurotoxins that were injected into her body from fusing with Nihlego and that she might never wake up again. Ultra Sun and Moon redeemed her by not only keeping her alive but also allowing her to forgive her children and recognize that they grew up throughout their journey with you.
In base SM, Lillie talks about how Lusamine was coming to understand that what she did was wrong, so she's since woken up.
so you're basically saying she's dead
@@levelmakertoiletpaperediti1778 They seem to be saying that even though that's very explicitly NOT what happens.
@@BJGvideos yes,but technically it is death
Lillie goes on a quest in S/M to find a cure for Lusamine. So there's hope.
I think that all of what you said is what makes Ultra Sun more scary. Spoilers:
In Ultra Sun, for the most part the story is the same and Lusamine is just as threatening, however in the final scene where you’re about to head into Ultra Space to chase her, a portal opens up and she and Guzma falls out. Lusamine then shouts at her kid to run as Necrozma appears behind them, giving us a clear idea that what we are facing is beyond even Lusamine’s capabilities. It’s wild man.
Idk taking one of the darkest villains we've had, weakening her motives and taking away her charisma, and then having her get beaten up off screen just to gas up a generic monster kinda sounds like bad writing to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As much as I love Alola, I honestly think Sun and Moon did a better job with Lusamine's story than USUM. but that was a really cooll and tense scene
@@cleverdragon2744 yeah I have to agree, you can’t just introduce the idea of fucking fusion and then take it away immediately
I really think that if you want to play usum, you should play sun and moon first, or just play sum.
In this one, I seen a much more different Lusamine...one who still cared for her children a little more
But not like in the anime, of course
I've said in the past that Lusamine's story is cosmic horror and honestly, I stand by that. Even if USUM did kneecap the story by having her just get spit back out a while later no harm done, she still experienced classic Lovecraftian madness and did horrible things to see "her lovely Beast" again.
But I also don't think her kids should have been so quick to forgive and forget so... what do I know
You know, while she did get away with nearly destroying Alola... only her daughter and a 10 year old know... and there is little proof...
And while she froze those Pokemon... Pokemon are much more receptive to feelings than humans, so they'd probably forgive her once unfrozen....
What she did likely counted as Tax fraud if the Foundation are a registered tragedy, meaning no matter what the IRS is coming for her
1. Nihilego infused with Lusamine would have been a epic battle
2. It's interesting that she was evil in Ultra Sun and Moon as well but we never got to see her ultra beast form in that game due to Necrozma. Guess Necrozma was a big factor to make her afraid.
Lusamine talked about how we put Pokémon in boxes when no other villain attempts to cover that side of the Pokémon World. Not even Team Plasma. Now that's pretty disturbing.
Me seeing her chair has dot in the anime: REGI CHAIR
Introducing the 7th Legendary Titan: Regisit!
This generation was THIS close to perfection, it was this close to embrace the lovecraftian side of pokemon, but of course game freak was too greedy to give us a complete experience (no, you dont need bloodshed if you can make a good story)
Lusamine in Anime: Helps protagonist, and cool
Lusamine in Games: Super Obsessed in ultra beast and becomes a villain
Makes you wonder what would happen if the jellyfish hat was worn by the other ultra beasts.
Buff mosquito would be a intense fusion
Sun and Moon's story is by far my favorite in the Pokemon series. Lusamine is also the best villain in the series for sure
Lusamine is Pokemon's waifu version of the Aliens guy from Ancient Aliens
Waifu? That hag? Ha! Simp!
Man it’s sad that instead of fighting her in US/UM you just fight ultra necrozma.
Better song theme, but dude ultra lusamine was so cool.
The thing I find so interesting is that Lusamine’s broken mental state could have been also influenced by Niheligo’s toxin
We definitely need a video about Koko using Jungle Healing on Dada Zarude
Very good video. I love when people go in depth with the villains. They're usually the best part of the story.
Unpopular opinion: Sun and Moon is my second favourite generation
You know what? Yes. It has good story, the totem battles were interesting and new, I really liked a lot of Alolan Pokemon. Both regional forms and z moves were good ideas.
Sun and moon did a lot right.
Same, behind only gen 4
@Ik Not sure how it was lazy. I'm more talking about the bizarre rewriting they did to weaken Lusamine as a character and as a villain.
Gen 5/7 are my favorites, and gen 4/3 is near
People who are new to insane Nintendo lore: SHE’S GONE CRAZY TRYING TO FIND HER HUSBAND.
Me a Kirby fan: *laughs in Kirby planet robobot*
Me when she fuses and Pokémon fans are like wow so unique and I’m like omg generic Kirby boss
Lusamine's story and the arcs of everyone in the family are why Sun and Moon have my favorite story in the series. Lillie's theme still makes me cry, as does her scene with Lusamine at the very end.
sun and moon has so many good written characters. and the psycho lusamine actually gave me chills
The OST in the basement from the Aether Foundation was so well made, it perfectly reflected the horror of the experiments which have taken place in their laboratories. Could be straight out of a horror game or film.
I wouldn't worry about the frozen Pokémon. I believe they represent our Pokémon frozen in time when we haven't played the game in a while.
It's at least nice to see that the anime wrapped up this story arc, as Mohn was finally found in Journeys.
Aether foundation has one of the coolest themes in ever, kind of like an alien theme in a way
Man,, I feel like I purposely blocked a lot of this out from my memory bc the frozen Pokémon thing just hit me in the face with how messed up it is.
Fun fact for pokemon fan
She is the first pokemon female main antagonist
Does Jesse count or are she, James and Meowth not prominent/important enough? Or you know, we're only considering the games?
Anime Lusamine be hittin' different - everything really, it's too good
I hope that if there’s going to be a switch remake that we get to fight lusamine/nihilego, sun and moon, for me at least, has the best story of the ones I’ve played (which is most of them), I love the region, the Pokémon, and the mechanics, I really hope we get a new and improved version
I know another franchise where the characters would have been MIND-BLOWN to see Lusamine fuse with a Pokemon....
...not gonna tell us?
@@BJGvideos
Steven Universe.
Seriously, I've even thought of potential partners for the characters....
@@DrawciaGleam02 Oh? I've seen people compare her to White Diamond but I've never seen SU myself.
Lusamine is the creepiest and craziest Pokémon villain to exist. I mean Ghetsis tries to kill you, but Lusamine freezes Pokémon for her own personal collection and she gets corrupted by a parasitic life form that creates strong neurotoxin.
Lusamine goes down a chaotic spiral of doing anything to get what she wants. Creepiest, but definitely not as evil as Ghetsis, even if he is more mentally sound.
@@yharim180 makes me wonder if Ghetsis beats ganondorf (OoT) because, despite planning world takeover, ganondorf did seem to actually have a moral code. He didn’t kill Young Link at first when he easily could have, and just played fair until his castle got blown to pieces. Then there’s the child murdering lettuce haired visually impaired psychopath that attempts to murder a child just so they don’t stop kyurem from blasting the world with ice.
Well I don't know how Lusamine acts in the Manga, but Manga Ghetsis beat the shit out of N. Hang the gym leaders in a cross in front of the Pokémon league and more. He didn't try to hesitate to murder the shit out of you either which I think is pretty dark. Also his plan of murder was to 'freeze' you but it was frozen shards and I'm definitely sure it's not gonna freeze you lol
I've watched pokémon Sun&Moon like 20 times already so Lusamine's villain form thingy isn't so sad or creepy to me anymore, I just like her new fancy looks
Mood
All right can we talk about that pokemon literally made a r34 villian and everyone seems to be ignoring this.
Pretty much
You act like people haven't been doing that to all the villains already.
@@BJGvideos I know but its kinda rare that the game developers did it themselves.
@@panosplays4297
Wait what??? When did that happened
@@gil2644 I mean that the actual game developers make the extra body features that the you know where they appear. The breeding process is still drawn by the 34 artist.
It doesn't haunt my dreams since she just tossed a pokeball.
This form of Nehilego is the coolest thing ever.
Well... maybe not ever but it's awesome.
Personally Pokemon didn't get bad until SWSH, people still rag on these games for some reason but I think they're amazing. With possiblely one of the best stories we've ever gotten (yes I think its better than BW but to each their own), fluid gameplay, and the last appearance of something resembling a difficulty setting (my biggest gripe with the newer games), everything just comes together for a bloody perfect game!
Both Alola games are very good except for dialogues.
All Pokémon games good sword and shield let's go bad only
i have to say the DP remakes are proving to be amazing so far(and yes the glitches in fact ADD to their awesomeness), just proof that Gamefreak should outsource/collab more
@@Akario3 the glitches really add to the game i agree especially if you have some nostalgia for the DS games like me
SwSh are far superior to Ultra, which was a hollow imitation of base SM
(Around 2:59) Another "Fun" Fact, see those Squares covering the Walls of her Secret Collection Room? Yeah, *Those Are ALL CRYO-PODS HOLDING POKÉMON!*
if you look closely every panel on the wall is a frozen pokemon
OMG!!!!! Lusamine fused with Lillie's hat!!!
Lmao
Crazy how far childrens games can go to only get a E-10
fun fact: in Pokemon Sun there is no music in Ultra Space even though there is in moon
Ok going back and seeing this makes me think about that one Pokemon Manga that involved people fusing with the pokemon basically being them in battles which I guess makes it a nice reference to it even if its not crystals giving this form its still super cool to see it happen
still mad that wasnt a actual boss battle
New Pokémon game “the tragedy of lusamine”
Lusamine?
Oh right.
Tentacle Mommy
Bro ayo 💀 you did her so dirty by calling her mommy
But wait she is a mommy 😳
2:33-2:34 anyone else see the meme
6:02
I think there's a character that actually says they would wait until the frozen pokemon would wake up or that they would look after them until they recover so they're probably okay
I both cannot believe and sort of expected that the most replayed section of the video is *that*
Part of the reason I like Lusamine so much is that she looks like she leapt right out of Mega Man Star Force.
Design-wise, personality, the whole Nihilego thing or multiple of the above?
@@LuckyNumber39 All of the above
@@DoublemanFM nice
Lusamines worst crime was trying to bring back Gen 1 permanent freeze
In the anime lusamine isnt the villain.
Now im confused
I personally get a Darth Vader/Venom vibe with Lusamine's character. In fact, I think she has a similar arc like those other characters mentioned. Lillie I think is like if Leia went to face Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi while Luke is either dead or elsewhere. Gladion I think could be Luke. Or maybe the roles can be switched. Lillie is Luke and Gladion is Leia. It's essentially the "I am your father" moment but switched to a mother and daughter dynamic. I think Giovanni in Ultra sun and moon can be like emperor palpitatine even if Lusamine's character is different in that story.
It's not like death is a rare concept in Pokemon. We've got museums full of bones, dead bone mommy ghost (killed by team Rocket, probably straight up SHOT), human spirits trapped in masks, magikarp sushi,
a god of death who kills everything around it, a superweapon built out of revenge for the killing of a man's Pokemon, which used said god of death by sucking the life energy out of nearly the entire country to fire its extinction blast and end a brutal world war... fuck, X and Y were BRUTAL
Sun and moon had the best story in recent memory for Pokémon. Wayyy better than sword and shield fr
Real shame USUM ruined her character and by extent, the whole story
That's nothing compared to what the Anime did to her
@@SilverSnook7966 Is it worse in the anime?
@@xmarksthespot1372 Yes, she's not even evil
They didn’t ruin her character of the story…the whole point of the ultra games are that they are a different universe it’s really not that hard to understand
@@primarinegaming6761 Yes, but you could argue her character is less interesting & overall more boring in USUM.
She's not really a villain, which upset MANY people.
Ah Pokémon SM/USUM
Child abuse
Animal abuse
Broken family
Death
Mental issues
Pokémon literally dying
Dead ghost girl
Inappropriate references
Genocide
Alien invasion
Pokémon human hybrid
And litten
In the words of a wise friend during our joint playthrough of the game when it came out.
"The doujins write themselves"
Lusmine's pants being white at the front and black at the back was peak character design
I honestly can't wait for gen 7 remakes, hopefully by then Gamefreak will make better games. Gen 7 was probably my favorite, but it definitely needs streamlining, even the ultra versions.
While I got into Pokemon during Gen 6 I never actually played my first game until Gen 7 with Sun & Moon. I played Sun and my brother played Moon, it was both of our first Pokemon games ever and WOW did that scene blow me away. My 13 year old (probably) brain was blown. Lusamine was a great and, for me, unexpected villain and Nihilego was the creepiest thing to crawl out of that game.
I actually disliked the Ultra Beasts at first on design alone, eventually they grew on me though and now they're some of my favorite Pokemon just due to their lore and how freakish they look and act.
While in the anime universe, Lusamine acts like childish mother.
They didn't did justice to her character in anime 😭
But infact it's even better
Did Lusamine ever reunite with her husband? Did her husband ever regain his memories?
yes on pokemon journeys
and then there's just the anime where she's just embarrassing, funny, gets fused with nihelego once, and then falls asleep
I really wish the ultra games didn't backtrack Lusamine's character from super evil to just misunderstood mom...i love her character but the villain nerfing is kinda as annoying as not being able to fight her fused form!
then again considering the alternative that scarlet and violet shown in what'd happen if you let the villain go full insane without being stopped....
I think that the darker squares in lusamine’s laboratory are cells for other frozen Pokémon
I still find Ghetsis to be creepier because to my recollection he is the first Pokemon villain (and I think still the only) that actually tries to kill you. He straight up tries to impale you with ice in Black 2 and White 2.
Lusamine tries to kill Lillie in her Mother Beast form when you beat her
I heard a theory that Volo from legends Arceus is her ancestor
Care to explain it?
you should make a video about pokemon mystery dungeons unseen force that kicks you out of the dungeon
honestly for me the dark lusamine was really cool and the nihilego parts were cute
naturally due to the fact that jellyfish are my favorite animals
Sun and moon actually had a pretty decent story. Compared to sword and shield at the very least.
I remember when people theorized that all of lusamines family were ultra beast in disguise
The animae made her a wholesome mother
if lusamines fusion was a bit more psychodelic i would straight up think that it was some sort of madoka crossover
No in Pikachu valley you see the pokemon in the story just hanging out
Base game not ultra
That’s the ultra games which are an alternate universe
I'm so mad we don't get to save the frozen pokemon, but at least we got to save the third silvally in a sense when they distributed it over mystery gift
Nihilego is one helluva drug
Pretty sure there was a line for an Ather foundation member in post game that does mention the frozen Pokemon in the post game.
As someone who only watched the anime I had toaylly no idea what was in the in-game lore
“While Lusamine’s character design is elegant, bright, and appealing-”
Me: “Oh I agree, especially with that last part”
if we ever get gen7 remakes in the future we should fight her instead of her pokemon
Lusamine is my favourite character in the entire Pokemon franchise. These games story (especially the family tragedy) is really good for pokemon standards. Base Sun and Moon are my favourite main line games. I only dislike the Ultra Sun & Moon story since Lusamine acts like her usual creepy self...only to "save the world" at the end? That just sounds stupid.
You are absolutely correct.
We DO stan tomboys in this house
Is it too late to ask who the heck that character is?
My headcanon is that Ultra Necrozma replaced Mother Beast as an apology for us not being able to fight her directly.
Lusamine: *Goes insane*
Jevil: You too?
It actually makes perfect sense why Lusamine would use her own Pokemon instead of fighting you herself.
Why would she want to risk any harm to her perfect little Nihilego?
Ultra sun and ultra moon? more like ultra villain butchering...
Agreed, it would’ve been really cool if we could still fight alien lucemine (yes I forgot how to spell her name) but hey, fighting the true form of Necrozma was honestly easier than this a battle appears to be, especially if you over level one of your Pokémon (something I did with my primarina, as it was very easy to beat necrozma
Even seeing my boy Cyrus again couldn't fix the garbage bungling of the main story.
She was fucking scary until she used pokemons.
YOU ARE A LITERAL FUSION WITH SUPERPOWERS! USE YOUR CAPACITY!
If we were able to beat the crap out of her from the start the boss would be so cool
I really need to turn off autoplay
I feel bad for Lillie
Lillie fans rise!