Various reasons. Some people believe that the claim that being gay is a sin was not originally in the bible but was added later. Others believe the gay = sin claim comes from mistranslations in the bible, so it all depends on what you believe, do your own research and you'll find your answer.
@@JurassicLuigi Neither of those beliefs stand up to historical scrutiny. One of the recurring miracles of the books of the Bible is that even the older and older copies that are found getting closer and closer to the originals, they are uncommonly the same. Similar archeological finds of other great literary works and historical documents reveal far more alterations than the Bible.
A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank. -- Ron Paul
Also, Jewish by his dad although the dad threw it away. I am Jewish and cannot understand Andrew's decision but not my call as he can do as he pleases.
@@seanmahoney7334 Thanks Sean. I am aware of the book. I have also have listened to Spencer in several interviews. He's really a likable sort, far more than his father. Whereas the father appears to me be smug convincing himself he is not, the son seems to be the real deal. That said, the father threw away his birthright which I suspect was tied into his own disdain for his own father. The bar mitzvah money story is not logical but emotions generally are prone to not be. He was a secular Jew. The money is not tied to the religion. He didn't have to ditch it. There is nothing about bar mitzvah money that is part of the religion whether secular or not. People gave him gifts and he threw them away. Like Andrew, I grew up in the same type of wealthy community although I am a bit younger. The thousands and thousands of dollars in jewelry that Andrew says he received as gifts from his bar mitzvah doesn't sound true. Back then for sure, people weren't handing kids these type of material things. Perhaps a very rich relative might give a one-time gift to a bar mitzvah young man but this was not common. Andrew is a storyteller, and he does it quite well describing the Jews of Great Neck of that era, well, but inaccurately because bar mitzvahs do not render family and friends into crazed gift givers. If he weren't such a self-hating Jew at 13, he could have done what I did and many families did. The money was put aside toward paying for my freshman in year in college. Besides, as a culture we tend to do things a certain way and we are good stewards with money. Andrew describes the bar mitzvah money thing as if he was part of some culture I am not familiar with. I never heard of expensive jewels being given to kids and to the extent that type of gift was given, the parents would protect it from the whims of a child that has just supposedly become a man. I am not unbiased but I cannot grasp what Andrew did and he did it way before he became a Christian. Spencer is half-Jewish by my definition and he has made his choice and I wish him well with it.
He is not only intelligent, he is clearly brilliant and likeable as well. In my view, he is Jewish as his father is Jewish; his father threw it away but he is Jewish by the standards of any Jew. Spencer is not Jewish in the eyes of most Jews, I however, believe the paternal line makes one a Jew. What faith he identifies with in terms of religion is obviously his choice. Andrew, the father, professes to be a defender of the Jewish people although he is "no longer Jewish." There are just 15 million Jews in the entire world. Why these men throw out their Jewish identity given our small numbers pains me. One that is Jewish doesn't even need to believe in God. I get that both father and son want to be Christians and are, that of course is a deeply personal choice.We Jews are a people and will not survive with Jews that no longer identify as Jewish people. Makes me so sad.
We Jews keep losing our numbers. Likable young man that does not appear to know he is part Jewish or care. Sad. That said, he appears happy. Like this dude more than the dad.
@@milksloth2503 No, his father Andrew Klavan is Jewish although he threw away his Jewish identity when he was quite young and converted to Christianity. As Andrew was born Jewish, he is forever Jewish albeit he can identify as whatever he wishes. In other words, if tomorrow Andrew decided he was Jewish again, he would not need to convert back because he never lost it. Being Jewish does not require on to believe in God or anything else. If one is born of a Jewish mother, they are Jewish. Spencer sounds like a great young man. Technically, although half-Jewish, he is not Jewish because only his father is Jewish. I think it's sad that he is so disconnected from his heritage as his heritage does not require him to believe anything. Although his father does not appear to be antisemitic, he was already repulsed by his Jewishness by the age of 13, which is a bit strange of an identity that requires no faith in God. In addition, where Andrew grew up is probably among the most secular places in the world requiring no purge from one's heritage.In other words, it's as common the be a non-religious Jew where Andrew grew up as it is to have brown eyes, neither of which requires one to actively reject. I think Andrew had no respect for his father other than that his father was his father, and he rejected his Jewishness as a revolt, although Andrew did not tell his father before his father died which was around the time he threw out his Jewishness, having spared father.. One can rebel against their parents forever even after their parents die. For a Jew to reject his Jewishness and convert to another thing is indescribable for a Jewish parent to endure. It's ingrained in us that we don't do that and our objections are not intellectual, they are emotional and strike at our core. There are few exceptions to this. I believe it's in our DNA, having for centuries died rather than be forced to convert those that survived had certain traits which make shedding one's identity torture to witness in their own child.
@@CatholicNicklas I am not religious, however, I am a Jewish man. What I do know is that in the bible God explains he is the only God. Therefore, whatever you profess to have happened after that render your views as at best, contradictory. Again, I am Jewish but not at all religious but I can read what the bible said at the beginning. God warns that there is only one God and to beware of false claims. Just sayin'
Listening to him speak, both here and on podcast interviews and discussions, he seems intelligent, sane, well educated, thoughtful, and rational. And then he reduces all this extravant brilliance to the narrow, puny, distressing and improbable value of Jesus, a belief in an absurd and magical but completely baseless set of primitive ideas, arriving very late in the history of our species and to its overall detriment.
I don't know how one can reconcile homosexuality to a God who calls it sin. I just don't get it.
Various reasons. Some people believe that the claim that being gay is a sin was not originally in the bible but was added later. Others believe the gay = sin claim comes from mistranslations in the bible, so it all depends on what you believe, do your own research and you'll find your answer.
@@JurassicLuigi Neither of those beliefs stand up to historical scrutiny. One of the recurring miracles of the books of the Bible is that even the older and older copies that are found getting closer and closer to the originals, they are uncommonly the same.
Similar archeological finds of other great literary works and historical documents reveal far more alterations than the Bible.
A system of capitalism presumes sound money, not fiat money manipulated by a central bank. Capitalism cherishes voluntary contracts and interest rates that are determined by savings, not credit creation by a central bank. -- Ron Paul
I'm a fan of Spencer and would have enjoyed hearing him attempt to reconcile his Christian and gay identities
me too
Also, Jewish by his dad although the dad threw it away. I am Jewish and cannot understand Andrew's decision but not my call as he can do as he pleases.
@@Michael-te7fj Drew Klavan wrote a book about it, so you can read all about it.
@@seanmahoney7334 Thanks Sean. I am aware of the book. I have also have listened to Spencer in several interviews. He's really a likable sort, far more than his father. Whereas the father appears to me be smug convincing himself he is not, the son seems to be the real deal. That said, the father threw away his birthright which I suspect was tied into his own disdain for his own father. The bar mitzvah money story is not logical but emotions generally are prone to not be.
He was a secular Jew. The money is not tied to the religion. He didn't have to ditch it. There is nothing about bar mitzvah money that is part of the religion whether secular or not. People gave him gifts and he threw them away.
Like Andrew, I grew up in the same type of wealthy community although I am a bit younger. The thousands and thousands of dollars in jewelry that Andrew says he received as gifts from his bar mitzvah doesn't sound true. Back then for sure, people weren't handing kids these type of material things. Perhaps a very rich relative might give a one-time gift to a bar mitzvah young man but this was not common. Andrew is a storyteller, and he does it quite well describing the Jews of Great Neck of that era, well, but inaccurately because bar mitzvahs do not render family and friends into crazed gift givers. If he weren't such a self-hating Jew at 13, he could have done what I did and many families did. The money was put aside toward paying for my freshman in year in college. Besides, as a culture we tend to do things a certain way and we are good stewards with money. Andrew describes the bar mitzvah money thing as if he was part of some culture I am not familiar with. I never heard of expensive jewels being given to kids and to the extent that type of gift was given, the parents would protect it from the whims of a child that has just supposedly become a man. I am not unbiased but I cannot grasp what Andrew did and he did it way before he became a Christian. Spencer is half-Jewish by my definition and he has made his choice and I wish him well with it.
@@Michael-te7fj thanks for the exposition. I have the bio here waiting to read, but haven't read it yet. Best, Sean
What a lovely young man.
Spencer is an intelligent and wise young man.
He is not only intelligent, he is clearly brilliant and likeable as well.
In my view, he is Jewish as his father is Jewish; his father threw it away but he is Jewish by the standards of any Jew. Spencer is not Jewish in the eyes of most Jews, I however, believe the paternal line makes one a Jew. What faith he identifies with in terms of religion is obviously his choice.
Andrew, the father, professes to be a defender of the Jewish people although he is "no longer Jewish." There are just 15 million Jews in the entire world. Why these men throw out their Jewish identity given our small numbers pains me. One that is Jewish doesn't even need to believe in God. I get that both father and son want to be Christians and are, that of course is a deeply personal choice.We Jews are a people and will not survive with Jews that no longer identify as Jewish people. Makes me so sad.
We Jews keep losing our numbers. Likable young man that does not appear to know he is part Jewish or care. Sad. That said, he appears happy. Like this dude more than the dad.
Is Spencer’s mother Jewish?
@@milksloth2503 No, his father Andrew Klavan is Jewish although he threw away his Jewish identity when he was quite young and converted to Christianity.
As Andrew was born Jewish, he is forever Jewish albeit he can identify as whatever he wishes. In other words, if tomorrow Andrew decided he was Jewish again, he would not need to convert back because he never lost it. Being Jewish does not require on to believe in God or anything else. If one is born of a Jewish mother, they are Jewish.
Spencer sounds like a great young man. Technically, although half-Jewish, he is not Jewish because only his father is Jewish. I think it's sad that he is so disconnected from his heritage as his heritage does not require him to believe anything. Although his father does not appear to be antisemitic, he was already repulsed by his Jewishness by the age of 13, which is a bit strange of an identity that requires no faith in God. In addition, where Andrew grew up is probably among the most secular places in the world requiring no purge from one's heritage.In other words, it's as common the be a non-religious Jew where Andrew grew up as it is to have brown eyes, neither of which requires one to actively reject. I think Andrew had no respect for his father other than that his father was his father, and he rejected his Jewishness as a revolt, although Andrew did not tell his father before his father died which was around the time he threw out his Jewishness, having spared father.. One can rebel against their parents forever even after their parents die.
For a Jew to reject his Jewishness and convert to another thing is indescribable for a Jewish parent to endure. It's ingrained in us that we don't do that and our objections are not intellectual, they are emotional and strike at our core. There are few exceptions to this. I believe it's in our DNA, having for centuries died rather than be forced to convert those that survived had certain traits which make shedding one's identity torture to witness in their own child.
@@Michael-te7fj God sent his only begotten Son to die for us, he is the way the truth and the life. The beginning and the end.
@@CatholicNicklas I am not religious, however, I am a Jewish man. What I do know is that in the bible God explains he is the only God. Therefore, whatever you profess to have happened after that render your views as at best, contradictory. Again, I am Jewish but not at all religious but I can read what the bible said at the beginning. God warns that there is only one God and to beware of false claims. Just sayin'
Listening to him speak, both here and on podcast interviews and discussions, he seems intelligent, sane, well educated, thoughtful, and rational. And then he reduces all this extravant brilliance to the narrow, puny, distressing and improbable value of Jesus, a belief in an absurd and magical but completely baseless set of primitive ideas, arriving very late in the history of our species and to its overall detriment.