Why do we have museums? - J. V. Maranto

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  • View full lesson: ed.ted.com/lessons/why-do-we-h...
    Museums have been a part of human history for over 2,000 years -- but they weren't always like the ones we visit today. J. V. Maranto uncovers the evolution of museums, from the first museum in 530 BC (curated by a princess) to PT Barnum’s freak shows and beyond.
    Lesson by J. V. Maranto, animation by Zedem Media.

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  • @noahfrench7412
    @noahfrench7412 9 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    The Gift Shop of Gift Shops will be the best sequel ever c:

    • @coenvannoord4976
      @coenvannoord4976 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Would the giftshop of giftshops be a place where you can buy an intire shop as a present?

    • @PhoebeTheFairy56
      @PhoebeTheFairy56 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Coen Van Noord maybe it sells tiny models of other gift shops

    • @user-ry5xu9pz7n
      @user-ry5xu9pz7n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be too disappointing.

    • @user-ry5xu9pz7n
      @user-ry5xu9pz7n 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, to Alison Jones

    • @josefholzer2433
      @josefholzer2433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I couldn't find online store.

  • @BrainStuffShow
    @BrainStuffShow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Well done TED animation explaining why we have museums.

  • @pournima8096
    @pournima8096 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The last bit about the accessibility of museums is of importance. My educational institution was the former residence of the British Governor of Bombay Presidency. We hold heritage walks, free of costs, for those interested in the history of the monumental structure. Free tours of such structures encourage research and a public engagement that is much needed for society as a whole to navigate their pasts.

  • @CraftedTomLion
    @CraftedTomLion 9 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Next video: Why do we have gift shops?
    hehe

    • @MsSBVideos
      @MsSBVideos 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Tomeow To get the museum more money, even if the things the gift store sells have nothing to do with the museum.

    • @isaacbakan1295
      @isaacbakan1295 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is the Internet but that also has the money issue as Internet access and computers are not free

    • @ftnluizin3318
      @ftnluizin3318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      super poop

    • @jjmaker6422
      @jjmaker6422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👎👎👎

  • @Webber-sr3xk
    @Webber-sr3xk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Museums of ancient rome be like
    “And here this vase from... well... yesterday”

    • @clintgolub1751
      @clintgolub1751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂
      Truthfully though, the ancient Greeks both collected and venerated the ruins and artifacts of the ancient Mycenaeans 1000 years before them whom they viewed as a much greater civilization than their own. Greek mythology and Homer’s epics like ‘The Iliad’ and ‘The Odyssey” depict both real and fictional moments from that much older age leading up to the Macedonian Empire of the 800’s B.C.
      And going back even further than that, even those ancient Mycenaeans, Phoenicians, Egyptians of 1,200 B.C., and later the Achaemenid empire (before Persia) and Assyrian (before Babylonian) believed the cultures that inhabited Mesopotamia 1,000 years before them such as the Akkadian Empire of the early 2,000’s B.C. were closer to astrological truths and the divine nature of the gods. If we trace the world’s oldest monotheistic religion, Zoroastrianism (which was the precursor to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and have TREMENDOUS similarities to Zoroaster’s cosmology), we go all the way back to the ancient city-state civilization of Sumer back in 3,000-3,500 B.C. and beyond which in turn considered itself very modern in comparison to the small kingdoms that pre-dated even that. Pretty much everything after the invention of agriculture in 10,000 B.C. slowly allowed human culture to flourish and coalesce into tribes, then small settlements, and thanks to increased trade, towns, cities, kingdoms, and finally continent-ruling empires 6,000 years ago. Looking at mankind’s history through this lens really does make our history from the Renaissance to now seem insanely modern! Centuries really aren’t that long if we’re being totally honest; it’s just our lifespans are so pitifully short, we loose sight of the macro view of things on a millennial level. And even then, 6-7,000 years of human development in language and culture is nothing in comparison to the eons our planet, Earth has evolved from 4.5 BILLION years ago. The real kicker here however is that throughout almost the entirety of human civilizations, we’ve always felt we were worse off than the preceding generations. The ancient Assyrians believed they were living in the last days, and in 700 B.C., the Ancient Greek poet Hesiod wrote in his book “Works and Days” a sequence of metallic ages depicting the ages of man, but they are degradations rather than progressions. Each age has less of a moral value than the preceding one. Of his own age he says: "And I wish that I were not any part of the fifth generation of men, but had died before it came, or had been born afterward."

  • @28Superficial
    @28Superficial 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Love watching the Ted-Ed videos, they're so fun and the voice over are so good!

    • @Aritul
      @Aritul ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just going to say that.

  • @merrymachiavelli2041
    @merrymachiavelli2041 9 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    It's weird, in the UK almost all museums are free, I didn't realise you had to pay in the US. Do you have to pay for all of them?

    • @derekmaynard1767
      @derekmaynard1767 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      I am yet to see a museum with free admission

    • @MuddieRain
      @MuddieRain 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only the bad ones cost money.

    • @SaraNicole613
      @SaraNicole613 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I live in the U.S. and my family pays for a yearly membership. It works for multiple museums across the nation and some zoos (we've used it in TN, NC, and FL). All we have to do is show our membership card at the gate and we're allowed on through without paying any extra. I think it's something in the range of $30-$50 annually.

    • @merciadragon9425
      @merciadragon9425 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They are FREE in Australia too.

    • @brian7168342
      @brian7168342 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The payments for such things are probably made through taxes. If the gov't owns them, the people pay for it, but not directly.

  • @TheRyanLamont
    @TheRyanLamont 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love museums so this was fascinating to me!

  • @kenbobca
    @kenbobca 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Very good video, I always learn something while watching TED-ed. Thank you.

  • @lindseymiller5520
    @lindseymiller5520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love it!! Would love one focusing on art specifically

  • @sindarinelf1
    @sindarinelf1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Museums aren't free in my country Latvia, but they cost very little to enter! 1EUR, 2EUR, along those lines... I didn't even think that in US it might cost so much that someone can't get in...
    Also I didn't realise that in US museums aren't just public exhibition houses... They don't do any experiments or anything along those lines in our country... it's just exhibition, that's it!

    • @ShibashishMahapatra
      @ShibashishMahapatra 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Museums are not just for exhibition. Only a small part of some museums are while a much larger part is reserved for experiment. A museum has a lot more things than those that are publicly displayed.

  • @localtriggerfan1998
    @localtriggerfan1998 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "Just step into the wardrobe here. There you go. And we'll tour...NARNIA."

  • @azipoor3468
    @azipoor3468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember that I always fell asleep when I went to a museum(held by school) or I visited the restaurants or cafes beside those museums😄

  • @Gears456123
    @Gears456123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    We watched this in class today, awesome

  • @wyattwalker4866
    @wyattwalker4866 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Did any. One else think the part when the guy is walking through with the kids looked like the foster home for imaginary friends?

  • @fjmh3933
    @fjmh3933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite museum is the Story Museum in Oxford, it's great fun and I loved it when I was younger.

  • @kbinsobeih
    @kbinsobeih 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is incredible. btw i noticed in your videos sometimes the bg music is too high, it affects the voice over.

  • @jupitired777
    @jupitired777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    these lessons are great

  • @nalulumbay
    @nalulumbay 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very well explained.

  • @qaz8904
    @qaz8904 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that had some great history

  • @Theodora111Theo
    @Theodora111Theo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "GIFT SHOP OF GIFTSHOPS" DINGIT... I ACTUALLY LAUGHED AT THAT TERRIBLE JOKE. X'D

  • @misssym769
    @misssym769 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    P.T. Barnum. Wow. This was actually in "The Greatest Showman". Wow wow

  • @k.a.s1812
    @k.a.s1812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't really know why but I would love to hear whoever does the narrations for these videos to do audio books

  • @td5760
    @td5760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:48 Is this where The Greatest Showman took inspiration with?

  • @niory
    @niory 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    many firsts were in Iraq ! its trully tragic what became of Iraq today ... a state of constant chaos ... the world has lots of ressons to do everything in their power to stop whats happening there and start digging for more History on that land

    • @ShibashishMahapatra
      @ShibashishMahapatra 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was Persia, after all.

    • @niory
      @niory 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** suadi arabia was the birthplace of Islam and not Iraq :)

    • @niory
      @niory 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** Baghdad in Iraq was build by the Islamic abbasid empire *Caliphate* and was the capital of the Islamic empire and the capital of all knowledge for hundred of years ! so Iraq has a big rule during the Islamic period which back then was quite admirable

    • @ShibashishMahapatra
      @ShibashishMahapatra 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      sara meachel 'Capital of all knowledge', I wouldn't agree to that.

    • @badneighbour999
      @badneighbour999 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** and for the huns that catholiscm survived

  • @mengkunsi9811
    @mengkunsi9811 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing

  • @annarose3354
    @annarose3354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good point about ticket prices, I think museums should be free for everyone, adults included. Where I live in Aus generally only children are free. Sometimes the temporary exhibitions can be a bit expensive, and of course they're often the best ones.

  • @Wanderingby
    @Wanderingby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shocking lack of mention of musuems in the UK - Victoria & Albert or the Sir John Soane

  • @MsSBVideos
    @MsSBVideos 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Have you ever visited the store of stores or resteraunt of resteraunts?

  • @strange_and_magnificent
    @strange_and_magnificent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great 👍 Ted ED!

  • @tigerwa
    @tigerwa 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No mention of the Ashmolean?

  • @enigma1865
    @enigma1865 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my research, I noticed most Lincoln museums were closely related to the Dime Museum tradition.

  • @ssebuyungochris5735
    @ssebuyungochris5735 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great to know

  • @uriituw
    @uriituw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does there need to be a ‘price of entry’ discussion at the end?

  • @DrN0rd
    @DrN0rd 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got that foster's house of imaginary friend's reference! :D

  • @MuseosAbiertos
    @MuseosAbiertos 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey, the link to TED lesson is broken :-(

  • @KFunMuseum
    @KFunMuseum หลายเดือนก่อน

    very nice video.

  • @JacktheRah
    @JacktheRah 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could have mention that in Germany after a old law all museums which aren't founded by a privat person are free to visit on sundays.

  • @nighttimetelevision2969
    @nighttimetelevision2969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video makes me want to visit a museum 😂

  • @alejandroojeda6604
    @alejandroojeda6604 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did they mention any european museum beyond the seconds dedicated to the Louvre?

  • @user-zl3hn1bm7g
    @user-zl3hn1bm7g 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The gift shop of gift shops will cost a lot of money to enter. It has many gift shops in it. LOL

  • @cattidesjar4229
    @cattidesjar4229 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Addison Anderson's voice!

  • @vl2809
    @vl2809 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    good video... unfortunately, this time you missed some crucial steps (clearly in favour of institutions known in the US). for example the very first institution called museum, the 16th century "museo" by italian historian Giovanni Dosio, a building at lake como where he collected portraits of important men of history. Or the very first art museum open to the public, the Pinakothek in Munich. Also, the predominantly royal Wunderkammern started off in the late 15th century and became really big in the 16th century, so it's a bit misleading to cite an example of the 17th century, whilst leaving out the 16th century entirely.

  • @addamtan1791
    @addamtan1791 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sid Meier's civilization V background soundtrack. did I heard it right?

  • @bulbs_
    @bulbs_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the uk museums (or at least most) are free to enter.

  • @andhikasoehalim3170
    @andhikasoehalim3170 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The front of the museum looked a bit like the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends building.

  • @SharonLinfromTaiwan
    @SharonLinfromTaiwan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it!!!!

  • @pipercharms7374
    @pipercharms7374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like this is more of an American perspective? In the UK and I assume other countries Museums are free to enter? Also maybe its just my biased british learnings but I heard the first museum open to the public was Ashmolean Museum, yet theres no mention of that here,

  • @user-gs3ju7vy6z
    @user-gs3ju7vy6z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an amazing period! We discovered extraordinary secrets on the tour, and it's like time travel so that you could see how Chinese people were doing 100 years ago. @

  • @flavialuz6221
    @flavialuz6221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    pq o video é ingês e o titulo portugues?

  • @espiinasnegras
    @espiinasnegras 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    In méxico almost all museums are free 1 day per week, others are free all the time. :)

  • @xSCHEF
    @xSCHEF 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Rijksmuseum, one of the worlds greatest museums and the home of Rembrandt and Vermeer and numerous other great artists, was opened in 1800, 40 years before 'the founder of museums' Burnum. America hur dur.

  • @matildawolfram4687
    @matildawolfram4687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks to the author of the channel for a very fascinating tour! When visiting another city or country, every educated person must visit a museum. Visiting museums is very useful and fascinating. A love for the "eternal" and "beautiful" is awakened in a person, the beginnings of greatness and respect for history are inculcated. It is impossible to turn the excursion into something banal, ordinary and boring. The person should be a comprehensively developed person, cultured, educated, critically and analytically thinking, with knowledge of foreign languages. It is the knowledge of a foreign language that opens wide prospects for a person to realize his/her creative potential, career and financial growth. I would like to recommend the practical training course by Yuriy Ivantsiv "Polyglot Notes. Practical tips for learning foreign language", where you can find lots of useful information how to learn a foreign language quickly. Learn a foreign language and realize your creative potential on an international scale! The international community needs creative ideas!

  • @TalDreamcast
    @TalDreamcast 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends... anyone?

  • @CoolGirl007
    @CoolGirl007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remembered the ticket charged for entering du louvre is quite expensive

  • @varunprakash6207
    @varunprakash6207 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Museum - Greek word - Muse collection of our ancient material preserve to showcase to the people 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @dhruvsauran871
    @dhruvsauran871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mam is showing this to me , thanks for making me sad

  • @Skandar0007
    @Skandar0007 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, you pay for admission in the US but you get to see the best.

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    museums are a part of society,

  • @vennonetes4805
    @vennonetes4805 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't the first museum open to the public the Musei Capitolini opened to the public in 1734 by Pope Clemems XII?

  • @ThePrikoki
    @ThePrikoki 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @ 2:20 , speaking of western ignorance, where is the Black Sea on the map behind he tour guide?

  • @Michael-xm4ux
    @Michael-xm4ux 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    museum is the second choice when you failed at the bank

  • @illanalevi6091
    @illanalevi6091 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the gift shop of gift shops :)

  • @stevenn9072
    @stevenn9072 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is anyone else reminded of fosters home for imaginary friends intro?

    • @wyattwalker4866
      @wyattwalker4866 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING

  • @bruh-bn3ni
    @bruh-bn3ni ปีที่แล้ว

    museums are the best

  • @abdelhaykabani8264
    @abdelhaykabani8264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    كمتعلم للغة الانكليزية عندي سؤال أتمنى أن تقع عليه عين المترجم و الذي هو كالآتي : أخي الفاضل أظن أن الترجمة لهذه الجملة: " temples built for the Muses, the goddesses of the arts and the sciences
    هي : معابد بنيت من أجل الآلهة اليونانية التي هي آلهة الفنون و العلوم" و قد استندت في ذلك على الثقافة اليونانية فهل هذه الترجمة صحيحة؟؟ لأن الترجمة في الفيديو تقول أن Musesمعناها مفكرون و ليس آلهة

  • @XSpamDragonX
    @XSpamDragonX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn't the plural of museum "musea"?

  • @TurnipBoy666
    @TurnipBoy666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you mean the museum age factorial
    yeah, i did it again

  • @pontusedberg
    @pontusedberg 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    i want someone to build this, and have your voice as an audio tour, :3, also interesting what gitftshop of giftshop sells,

    • @jumbochamploon2591
      @jumbochamploon2591 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably gift shops.. but what do THOSE gift shops sell?

  • @wrcclim3602
    @wrcclim3602 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:56 Actually, it's the modern age.

  • @tanyushing2494
    @tanyushing2494 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    +1 culture

  • @Jordan-vr7ip
    @Jordan-vr7ip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Museum is like humanity's resume'. If aliens ever visit us and want to know everything about us and Earth we take them to a Museum.

  • @Vexsus22
    @Vexsus22 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "she must of had interesting parties." /wink
    ..... hrrmmmm

  • @crymea
    @crymea 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    museums of museums of museums of museums of museums.

  • @jjmaker6422
    @jjmaker6422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come in here~~~\/

  • @Anappel90
    @Anappel90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually the Ennigaldi's cylinder shown as an arctifact is the label of one od the pieces.

  • @dilanmachado4239
    @dilanmachado4239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    US=>35000 museums
    Rest of the world= about 20500 museums
    This is weird

  • @nevercallmebyname
    @nevercallmebyname 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the gift shop of gift shops doesnt sell gift shops does it? because that would be excessively dumb

  • @mariamawda1075
    @mariamawda1075 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the first museum was created in 530 B.C in what is now Iraq ✌✌

  • @BallotBoxer
    @BallotBoxer 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think all museums should strive to be objective as possible. Present the facts in a neutral space so the viewer can learn.
    I don't like biased museums like the Creation Museum in Petersburg, KY. If you haven't heard of it, the museum skews scientific discoveries to conform to biblical interpretations.

  • @coenvannoord4976
    @coenvannoord4976 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with museums is that they are to far apart
    i have to take a train to go to a museum o natural history wich realy bums me out

  • @UatuOmega
    @UatuOmega 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So THAT'S what Addison looks like... ;)

  • @pfgram292
    @pfgram292 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would the catholic monasteries be considered museums because of their vast recordings of literature?

    • @YdeB
      @YdeB 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe a vast collection of literature is usually described with the word 'library'-

  • @gregoriarodriguez8159
    @gregoriarodriguez8159 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    sad bit true

  • @annissagultom6213
    @annissagultom6213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Talk about western ignorance, why no mention of colonialism and it's role post Renaissance era in the "development" of museums? This video needs a sequel

  • @ebrahimjamshid8328
    @ebrahimjamshid8328 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Da fuck
    Is it only in the U.K. Where museums are free for all.

  • @soapymarshmallow
    @soapymarshmallow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clay labels.
    claybels

  • @Pilum1000
    @Pilum1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think that museums have anything to do with the circus.
    Barnum is he there or not Barnum. in fact and in essence

    • @miriga3927
      @miriga3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Museum are quite similar to a circus back then, though they had acts and such, people came for the novelty of an exotic animal of an unordinary person- museums were just scientific oddities not so mischievous different .

  • @Zestrayswede
    @Zestrayswede 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yo dawg...

  • @cadensacc
    @cadensacc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People here from school!/ ms saad

  • @per_ringnes
    @per_ringnes 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    all museums should be free for everyone, and be funded by the government, by the tax payers money. just like schools, hospitals and libraries.

  • @hihowareyou4087
    @hihowareyou4087 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought it was cause we researched archeology

  • @osGFXman
    @osGFXman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and now google make it digital! #google_art_project

  • @MrQwerty2524
    @MrQwerty2524 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Museums belong in museums? *Mind blown*

  • @mariazarco658
    @mariazarco658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alguien hablar español

  • @jjmaker6422
    @jjmaker6422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a thing

  • @timurtheterrible4062
    @timurtheterrible4062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Just step in closet"

  • @katherineknapp6604
    @katherineknapp6604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤔

  • @HaiLsKuNkY
    @HaiLsKuNkY 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    British museums are free

    • @nasser314
      @nasser314 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you are citzen of Britain or EU. When I came to visit Britain (im from Brasil) I had to pay to enter. Not complaining, I know that they need money to maintain the most beutifull artifacts that I saw but still, nothing is free

    • @emackb1457
      @emackb1457 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HaiLsKuNkY yeah cuz your taxes pay for it. Funny how it feels like it's free, isn't it? Not that it's wrong it's just that nothing is ever free.

    • @HaiLsKuNkY
      @HaiLsKuNkY 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      its free you must have paid for the tour or something www.visitlondon.com/things-to-do/place/285709-british-museum#bDrSfz5EOaQomWHS.97

    • @HaiLsKuNkY
      @HaiLsKuNkY 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      its not state owned its a limited company. no taxes pay for it. ""The British Museum Company Limited ""

  • @Franciscavid
    @Franciscavid 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    and then the internet came