You just know Zhao Ming was high as a kite when he decided to make an army out of his garden decoration and ran off to declare war on the Dwarves with them.
"You may encounter more Thunderbarges but they won't be free of upkeep." It sure will be a relief you'll be getting your ass kicked by units the AI is paying for LOL
Thunderbarges are very easy to counter in campaign. Celestial Dragon Crossbowmen and Cannons do great against them. Honestly, anything ranged with armor piercing turns them into floating pincushions.
Incoming patch: Reduce missle mirror range to 50. Reduce missle mirror duration by 50%. Reduce number of bind spells "missle mirror" on Jet Lions to 1.
So, Legend will never see this, but if he does - bro you really need to try casting Wall of Wind and Fire the other way around sometime: aim it so that the wind follows along with the enemy unit instead of moving against it. You can get some incredible damage per cast that way. Also, I presume he stuck the 9 jade lions in there for the sake of spell mastery.
Very well played! But before using it on armored units 25:10 I'd use Plague of Rust on them because this spell actually scales with that 200% spell intensity. And it's only 3(?) winds of magic for both regular and overcast (with all skills) for Zhao Ming . I think it would be more wind efficient, but that's really small thing. Edit: And you could use Jade Lions' ability to do huge damage to debuffed targets.
The best thing about jade lions is that they provide spell mastery for your casters. Makes spells go boom. Zhao ming has an item that heals him when he get's low and is in dragon form. Similar to heart of avelorn from tyrion but only 1 use.
Slayers aren't interested in fighting him. - I seek a great doom in battle. - How about a dragon that turned into human? - Nay, that can be someone else's doom.
the weirdest part about this whole campaign was seeing them being only rank 3 on 40:57, I am not mentally ready to deal with whatever rank 2 and 1 in this game
I love using all the jade lions dragon breaths all at the same time on certain targets to just evaporate their health lol.. select all of em , choose the attack and let rip.. If the situation is ok to Ofcourse 😂
I was iffy about the Lions but they seem pretty decent. I still probably use Celestial Dragon Guards or multiple peasant spam armies as my main armies.
Well i definitely don't think youre the best when it comes to traditional tactics. But that's insignificant compared to how good you are at knowing your enemy. Both the AI and the units. (And most tactics are built on traditional warfare not yknow, dragons😂) As the Art of War says: do not attack where you are strong; attack where your enemy is weak.
To make a guess on the fast regeneration when switching back to dragon form, it's something to do with both forms "existing" simultaneously and the regeneration keeps going on one while the other is out. I'd even bet the one that is not active is under the map the whole time.
29:45 "how did he heal all that health"...if he has the Phoenix rebirth thing like mine does.....does that mean that it proc'd while in human form due to low health and then healed while he went into dragon form? That's got to be tested
That is hard match to see a air threat as good as them Barges.. The map helps if the dawi have cannons and dont have direct lines of sight.. or if they camp and you are the attacker to get in close to get them to do friendly fire?
@@hoomanlel5149 Nah that's a waste on Miao as she boosts ranged and the life magic abuse is better on the high-tier single entities. Zhao is the best choice if you're going to build that army for a fun-stack.
I dont really get why he declared war on the masters of innovation at all, to be honest? Surely there isn't anything there you would want, and I'd have thought if chaos factions love you, the dwarfs would have been jumping on your lap for snuggles!? Lol.
Can you heal constructs, or do you need to steal a necrotect? Maybe that’s why it’s not on Miao Ying..? (I’ve not tried it yet, so it’s a genuine question, really..) And the free upkeep adventure units… what’s that? I pay upkeep for them, they’re just free to recruit… I want the streamer-upkeep too..
healing works the same for all unit types: constructs, undead, normal units, demons, etc. It's just that nehek/undeath passive, corpse cart aoes, necotects, chorf daemonsmiths, and some other things all have specific limitations on what they're able to target. Life magic spells can target any allied unit, so they just heal anything.
@@TehFisheythanks for clarifying that. 😎 Yesterday is the first time I succeeded at stealing heroes from an ally, so I’ve never tried to use healing that wasn’t already available for the faction. (And then all I stole was the dwarf and the elf, from Marcus wolfheart 😜)
Yep. Legend apparently got mad because his viewer count wasn't high enough, so he abruptly ended the stream and then took the VOD down. I watched the first couple hours and then had to go deal with real-life stuff, so I was quite annoyed when the VOD didn't turn up.
@@strangestecho5088 ahhh thanks, had it on as background when it was live and thought I was going crazy or had been watching an old vod without realizing
How is that a doomstack, wheenver I have those cats in my army they always get melted lmao, thunderbarges are also just insanely overpowered its a joke, having the dwarf dlc is legit a downside if you dont play dwarfs
Can anyone give me some advice, just for context I play on normal and am currently doing a jade dragon campaign I don’t know how to build the cathay LL as I haven’t played them enough I know they are hybrid units I’ve gotten up to lightening strike and started in his unique skill line any help would be appreciated 😊
You just know Zhao Ming was high as a kite when he decided to make an army out of his garden decoration and ran off to declare war on the Dwarves with them.
them warpstones are no good
In Zhao Ming's defense, everything looks high to a dwarf.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 That's going in the book
lol
Observing his foe's three Blue Eyes Short Dragons, Xiao Ming places one card face down and ends his turn.
SHORT??
Short?!
@@MadHyena42 dwarfs are short it was a joke
@@13isluckysilly and you my friend missed the joke of people roleplaying as dwarfs offended by the word short.
@@shadden_x I like it when jokes are explained, so I can understand them, makes them waaaaaay funnier!
"You may encounter more Thunderbarges but they won't be free of upkeep."
It sure will be a relief you'll be getting your ass kicked by units the AI is paying for LOL
Thunderbarges are very easy to counter in campaign. Celestial Dragon Crossbowmen and Cannons do great against them. Honestly, anything ranged with armor piercing turns them into floating pincushions.
He has his unique Items on. That's where his instant regen was from.
I like how you went over to look at Archaon, but missed the fact that he's allied with Kairos and Wulfrik.
yuan bo most broken faction
Isn’t Cathay specifically enemies of Tzeentch above all other Chaos gods?
Incoming patch:
Reduce missle mirror range to 50. Reduce missle mirror duration by 50%. Reduce number of bind spells "missle mirror" on Jet Lions to 1.
Don't give CA ideas!!!
"But Legend, using an Uno Reverse Card is cheeeese!"
Final Transmutation became my favorite spell in WH3 because of it's versatility. "They shall never move again!"
Feels like metal magic became a lot better since the last path. gehennas golden hounds upgraded is cheap and effective now.
So, Legend will never see this, but if he does - bro you really need to try casting Wall of Wind and Fire the other way around sometime: aim it so that the wind follows along with the enemy unit instead of moving against it. You can get some incredible damage per cast that way.
Also, I presume he stuck the 9 jade lions in there for the sake of spell mastery.
He has actually done this before in a Livestream. I think it happened back when warhammer 3 came out.
Very well played! But before using it on armored units 25:10 I'd use Plague of Rust on them because this spell actually scales with that 200% spell intensity. And it's only 3(?) winds of magic for both regular and overcast (with all skills) for Zhao Ming . I think it would be more wind efficient, but that's really small thing. Edit: And you could use Jade Lions' ability to do huge damage to debuffed targets.
@@venis7494 oh god the overcast removes 120 armor. Combo that with dragonsbreath overcast or whatever and you're cooking (the enemy)
Nice combo. Never thought of that before
The best thing about jade lions is that they provide spell mastery for your casters. Makes spells go boom.
Zhao ming has an item that heals him when he get's low and is in dragon form. Similar to heart of avelorn from tyrion but only 1 use.
It's the Jade Lions that provide spell intensity
Jet Lions give Spell resistance
@@darthnihilus6211 oh yeah, messed that up, that's what I meant.
Who would win:
An army of Dwarfs, with the best artillery in the Old World
*or*
A couple of big cats made of stone
there're at least two dozens of them
Every Dawimon vs a billion Jade lions
I believe Zhao Mings Vambraces give him something akin to tyrions heart of averlorn ability
But only when he's in Dragon Form otherwise the heal won't proc
b-but Legend, using unit abilities is cheeeese!
Jade Lions provide spell intensity. So about 6 in the army for full 200% stronger spells. Then the rest Jet Lions and potentially Celestial Lions
"I've got no ranged"
'no but they do' *flips over Mirror Force*
starting a war with masters of inovation and dont have anti flying units
Thunderbarge crew: Sir... we keep firing and it comes back at us. Maybe a change of strategy?
Captain: FIRE!!!!!!
I'm surprised Legend didn't try to missile mirror the spears of grungni.
Slayers aren't interested in fighting him.
- I seek a great doom in battle.
- How about a dragon that turned into human?
- Nay, that can be someone else's doom.
Thanks, now I finally understand how missile mirror works and I’ve played 2 Cathay campaigns… 😅
I wonder if missile mirror works on the thunderbarge bombs, that would be funny to watch
Using the Trollhammers to take out the Trollhammers.
the weirdest part about this whole campaign was seeing them being only rank 3 on 40:57, I am not mentally ready to deal with whatever rank 2 and 1 in this game
“Legend of Total War here with another Saving Your Cat-astrophe Battle…”
Every disaster campaign ive watched against dwarves devolves into running away from these little idiots LUL.
Never realized how important speed is
29:37 my new whatsapp notifications
How did you even get to that part of the video? It´s been out for 6 minutes
@@sebbienator listening on 4x speed.
After 3000 hours in wh3 I just found out zhao ming has two health bars. What a ridiculously op lord holy crap.
That applies to all lords that can change Forms. Which is all cathay LL and malus iirc
35:29
> I think it was PREMATURE EVACUATION
I'm a grown man, I giggle when I hear that one... 😅😅😅😅
37:00 ??? Archeon with +40 relationship to the Jade Court. I know it's possible cause of trade cities but it's still absurd.
also full allies with kairos, wulfric and drycha. and have atleast stolen kalara from the huntsmarshal. interesting campaign indeed.
I think I skipped so little in this video really strange and fun army composition ... I dislike those lions but good to see they still work
Yes an accidental dodge counts as a dodge Legend!
I love using all the jade lions dragon breaths all at the same time on certain targets to just evaporate their health lol.. select all of em , choose the attack and let rip.. If the situation is ok to Ofcourse 😂
Markus's archer hero in Juan's army haha
Dear God this one is THRILLING
Don't shoot at Cathayan felines if they start speaking in Estalian...
I was iffy about the Lions but they seem pretty decent. I still probably use Celestial Dragon Guards or multiple peasant spam armies as my main armies.
Imagine the missile mirror on those spears
LEGENDS NEVER DIE
I suspect that the regen when he was failing to get due to cap whilst in human form was instead going towards his dragon form regen
Zhao has an item that gives him a fat regen when he enters dragon form, can't remember the name but would explain that clutch heal towards the end.
casual 30 minute battle kiting around the map for 5 whole ass rotations
Well i definitely don't think youre the best when it comes to traditional tactics. But that's insignificant compared to how good you are at knowing your enemy. Both the AI and the units. (And most tactics are built on traditional warfare not yknow, dragons😂)
As the Art of War says: do not attack where you are strong; attack where your enemy is weak.
the gist... this battle vewy hawrd
Zhao Mings Items gave him that instant health
archaon is a buddy of chatay ahahaha
Goddamn, the bots are in forth place...
Change your profile picture to something sexy? xD
To make a guess on the fast regeneration when switching back to dragon form, it's something to do with both forms "existing" simultaneously and the regeneration keeps going on one while the other is out. I'd even bet the one that is not active is under the map the whole time.
Smart assumption
no, he has item
It's on his unique Vambraces
It was probably an item which made him burst heal when below a certain amount of health
29:45 "how did he heal all that health"...if he has the Phoenix rebirth thing like mine does.....does that mean that it proc'd while in human form due to low health and then healed while he went into dragon form? That's got to be tested
Damn turn 104 income is 215,000 with 7 million in the bank..
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primarch lionel johnson time.. charge
Going to be honest, didn’t even realize it was yuan bo campaign
That is hard match to see a air threat as good as them Barges.. The map helps if the dawi have cannons and dont have direct lines of sight.. or if they camp and you are the attacker to get in close to get them to do friendly fire?
zhao mings vambraces heal him in dragon form when low on health
One if not the weirdest army for Zhao
He buffs them, and they buff spell mastery. It's a little weird but he's the only LL that army is effective with.
@@ScentSense yeah true but even legend said that miao would be a better choice
@@hoomanlel5149 Nah that's a waste on Miao as she boosts ranged and the life magic abuse is better on the high-tier single entities. Zhao is the best choice if you're going to build that army for a fun-stack.
I dont really get why he declared war on the masters of innovation at all, to be honest? Surely there isn't anything there you would want, and I'd have thought if chaos factions love you, the dwarfs would have been jumping on your lap for snuggles!? Lol.
Why the jet and jade lions stack only has 1 model in them , mine has 4 lions each
All my homies hate missile mirror
Can you heal constructs, or do you need to steal a necrotect?
Maybe that’s why it’s not on Miao Ying..? (I’ve not tried it yet, so it’s a genuine question, really..)
And the free upkeep adventure units… what’s that? I pay upkeep for them, they’re just free to recruit… I want the streamer-upkeep too..
healing works the same for all unit types: constructs, undead, normal units, demons, etc. It's just that nehek/undeath passive, corpse cart aoes, necotects, chorf daemonsmiths, and some other things all have specific limitations on what they're able to target.
Life magic spells can target any allied unit, so they just heal anything.
@@TehFisheythanks for clarifying that. 😎
Yesterday is the first time I succeeded at stealing heroes from an ally, so I’ve never tried to use healing that wasn’t already available for the faction.
(And then all I stole was the dwarf and the elf, from Marcus wolfheart 😜)
No, the dwarf thunderbarges from the Adventure do have free upkeep in vanilla WH3.
Was there a Cathay livestream that was removed earlier this month?
Yep. Legend apparently got mad because his viewer count wasn't high enough, so he abruptly ended the stream and then took the VOD down. I watched the first couple hours and then had to go deal with real-life stuff, so I was quite annoyed when the VOD didn't turn up.
@@strangestecho5088 ahhh thanks, had it on as background when it was live and thought I was going crazy or had been watching an old vod without realizing
How is that a doomstack, wheenver I have those cats in my army they always get melted lmao, thunderbarges are also just insanely overpowered its a joke, having the dwarf dlc is legit a downside if you dont play dwarfs
How does he do it.
It's only 104th turn. How did he get so much money?
How the heck He is getting over 200k income ?
Cathay has a great economy, he owns half the map, and he's still running around with mostly Jade stacks instead of upgrading to high tier units.
Missile reflect the spear?
Can anyone give me some advice, just for context I play on normal and am currently doing a jade dragon campaign I don’t know how to build the cathay LL as I haven’t played them enough I know they are hybrid units I’ve gotten up to lightening strike and started in his unique skill line any help would be appreciated 😊
Legend to war here
Uno!
Needs some mic tuning, sound goes clickety click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click
Can't the missile mirror reflect the Spears of Grungni?
Nah just basic missiles sadly
Should've missle mirrored the spears of grugni back at the thunder barges. Probably would've donw like 1/3 dmg
First 😅 For the Empire !
not first?
Only just noticed the battle music here is the m2tw music
I believe Zhao Mings Vambraces give him something akin to tyrions heart of averlorn ability