I agree but the 22 compact is much smaller than an M&P9. They use to make (really was made by Walther) a full size M&P22 because I have one. Very reliable too.
Dezz Nutts that’s crazy man...Maybe you gotta bad one idk but I clean mine very thoroughly after every use since the 22 round is so dirty. So what I do after I clean it real good is I apply a very small amount of oil on the rails and then with my cloth I wipe it all off right after. A thin layer of oil will still be on the rail but it’s not noticeable as it’s very thin...You probably already know this but a lot of guns fail because of having too much lube which causes a build up of dirt in all the moving parts. If you get a build up then the pistol won’t perform properly, especially a 22LR. But it’s the same with any pistol... Also check your mags and make sure the spring is clean and working so as to get those rounds up to be chambered. Idk man, you might have gotten a lemon but mine shoots fine and that’s after 4000 rounds or more.
The Ruger MKx pistols are excellent...PERIOD. That's especially for the fourth generation guns that (at long last) took care of the problem of being a nightmare to reassemble.
Tippman M4 Elite pistol is an awesome training weapon, I have the Tippman M4 Elite rifle as well, over 3,2000 rounds without any issues. Tippman builds the best 22 LR AR style platform that’s available in the US.
My wife loves her Taurus TX .22. Fun and accurate zero problems so far with around a thousand rounds through it other than 1 or 2 standard dud 22 rounds.
Me to Mag extension. Red dot sight, very accurate. Outstanding reliability. Shooting standard velocity aguila with the red dot mounted on the slide no failures.
I had a Smith & Wesson 622 for a BUNCH of years. I put well over 20,000 rounds through it. When I had problems with it, I sent it back to Smith & Wesson and they fixed it. I bet, I put another 10,000 rounds through it before I sold it and bought a Sig Sauer Mosquito. I miss my S&W 622.
@@401threed7 the 40 grain does help but quality matters, too. Mine will not run reliably on 40 g. Federal bulk in the blu box, either. No problems on CCI minimag or Aguila super extra.
I am so thankful I found your videos !!!!! I am retired now and I always loved bb guns and shooting as a teen. I want to get into target shooting at a range, and it seems the best (and most economical) choice is 22 cal. I am now watching your third video this night, and you are a great help and so knowledgeable. Thank so much for these GREAT videos !!!!
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MAKES ONE WONDER, DOES IT NOT?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! S+W M+P IS A GOOD PISTOL, PERHAPS THEY DID NOT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TH-cam SALESMAN, EH WHAT???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 months ago I was deciding between a Glock 44 and the Taurus TX22.....I got the Taurus for my boy to introduce him to shooting. I loved the way it felt in my hand and the price was nice too. I myself own nothing but Smith&Wesson and thought about their 22lr, but I wanted to show my boy there are other brands out there and he needs to discover his likings. Good show of variety Big D 🤘
Mark Villalon The Taurus’s was a good choice. I hope your boy loves it. That’s a freaking killer little gun. I like the Glock 44 but it only likes premium Gas lol. I also don’t think the 44 is going to hold up very well over time because of the way it was built. I wish when I was a kid we had cool guns like that Taurus. Kids who shoot now days got it good with the guns that are out now.
I picked up the tx22, and boy, does it stove pipe. Been through it several times, different ammo, properly cleaned and oiled. Not enjoyable at all with the sheer amount of malfunctions. A real shame. Hopefully, this is an anomaly and not the norm.
I like my 22lr Kadet kit for my CZ P09, I get to practice with the same gun, holster, talon grips, Dawson sights and Cajun Gun Works Trigger no matter what caliber makes it a great trainer. Quality parts straight from CZ to train military and police overseas
I have 2- mp15/22 that to tweak extractor but runs everything also have a gsg firefly a signal sauer copy eats everything no issues have walther p22 very finicky going to be tuning it can't wait to get a Taurus keep up the excellent work
Missing the M&P Compact 22. I think it's better than some on that table. I'm currently dealing with an issue on a Taurus and Taurus won't answer my emails or my calls. S&W has always been easy to get a hold of when I had questions and has even sent me parts I lost.
Outstanding !! Finally, bought the Taurus as a training aide, now your pick as one. Great little pistol that doesn't feel little at all. Feels like a full size 9mm pistol God Bless
Nice comparison, thx! And yeah, I know the 'Ring of Fire' guns get no love, but perfectly happy with my Phoenix HP-22, which seems to shoot damn near everything I feed it, is comfortable, very compact and 'does the job', and at
My nephew has a GSG 1911. We have shot it a lot and it seems to work well. We mostly run the Fed 36 gr 525 rounds per box. With an adapter it will take a suppressor.
You’re right on with everything you mentioned in this video. That 44 is a great gun as long as your shooting good ammo in it. My opinion is if your going to shoot a good gun shoot good ammo through it so you don’t risk damaging it due to a weak round and stove piping as well as many other things that could happen with cheap ammo. If I’m just having fun I pull out my p22 and then Id use cheap 22 ammo because I know for a fact it will take it but if I’m doing serious target shooting or training and or shooting my Glock44 which is a little higher end gun and more finicky I’m going to be using some good ammo hands down. Cheap ammos good for having some fun in a revolver or single shot and on occasion in guns that you know will eat them without problem. But if you want to do serious target shooting and sharpen your skills you have to have reliable ammo or else every bullet will just be all over the board in terms of load strength,trajectory, and reliability. I mean good ammos only a few bucks more when your talking shooting 22s it’s well worth the extra money in my opinion cheap ammo will just cause you pain and can potentially cause damage to your gun. I do use cheap ammo on occasion but only in the guns I know can handle cheap ammo and not fail and that’s only When I don’t care about how true the rounds will be and I’m just playing around shooting just too shoot again this is a killer video Brother hope to see more like this soon!!!
I'm a fan of conversions: CMMG .22 bolt for your AR and advantage arms .22 slide for your Glock or 1911. I have the Glock variant and if use their suggested ammo for 300-500 rds to break in then you can almost feed it anything. I used CCI blazer 40gr Rd nose to break in. Plus throw them in your Bug out bag w .22 ammo and you got your Armageddon guns
I have a 1911a1 .45 I bought a few years ago .shoots 45 well and is a WWII clone.I happened to stumble into a Colt ACE .22 conversion for the .45 frame and is one of my most liked and fun to shoot .22 I have ,and the recoil and weight are very close to the .45 slide weight and it uses current GSG magazines.jim
Good picks. The glock has become my favorite. It was picky with bulk initially but runs anything after break in. Taurus ran great at first and now jams frequently. Love the capacity but the barrel rifling is horrible. I've had zero replies from their customer service after multiple emails and no one answers the customer service line. Tippman for the win though.
John Shepherd I heard that. I haven’t had any problems out of the Colt 1911 but I only use CCI ammo. After the last scare and ammo dried up I slowly stocked up on ammo. I have ammo cans full of CCI 36 and 40 grain minimags so I don’t have any reason to experiment with other ammo
Can't argue the utility of any of the guns you chose but I am going to suggest the GSG 1911-22 instead of the Taurus. I get why you personally chose it but there are more people using some kind of 1911 than a VP9.
Gsg 1911 I would strongly recommend that because it’s a lot of fun to shoot and it’s one of the best triggers I’ve ever shot even better than a real 1911
I bought the PPQ 22 to go with my 9mm PPQ and I love it. Only problem, my .22 is the M2, and my 9mm has the paddle mag release. I like the paddles much better after I got used to them.
The best 22 Lr training tool that i own , is my CZ Kadet-II 22 Lr conversion kit . It fits the CZ P01 , CZ-75D PCR and my CZ-75 SP01. The 22 Lr conversion kit shoots every 22 Lr ammo even the cheap bulk 22 Lr ammo. Best 420 dollars i have ever spent , worth ever penny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are so many that could've made it to your table, I imagine it was difficult to choose among them. There are the Ruger 4522 types, the GSG 1911 lookalikes, Kimber makes, or made, a nice 1911 type .22, so many to pick from.
@@layrad Yes, the Sigs and GSGs are the same firearms, the Kimber I'm referring to is the Model Rimfire Target, an all aluminum Colt-like pistol not like the GSGs. Mine is labeled, on the frame, Kimber, Yonkers NY USA. It seems to be a pretty well made pistol.
I bought the Tx22 because when I picked it up up it felt so close to my VP9. It's been a phenomenal training gun. I've been shooting my VP9 better/faster since then
Shit, i will not improve my skills with the g44 i bought for clearing malfunctions, sadly it work perfect with any kind of ammunition.. i should have keep my issc m22 that jammed every 3 shots...
I had bought a Ruger 22/45 with a bull barrel, originally as a training pistol. The controls are in the same place as a 1911's controls, and the grip angle is the same, but really that's about it for it being similar to the 1911. I eventually re-purposed it to a bullseye target pistol with a So-Low mount holding a red-dot site and some Volquartsen internals. Now, that pistol is so accurate, it is downright boring to shoot. But, at least I used to do well on bullseye contests.
You had me till glock...unless you are training for malfunctions for glock, just get a .22 that's actually reliable with everything,for cheaper. Plus how is the Smith&wesson. 22 not on list and that junk is??????Great video and knowledgeable as always! Thank you
@@brianproffitt7263 oh I love it too. The zero recoil, i love shooting steel rapidily hearing that ding after every shot...I have zero issues using it for self defense knowing I can unload 16 rounds into someone accurately if need be. And it has zero issues with any ammo I've fed it.
If you ever get the chance try out a CZ-75 with the .22 cal. Kadet conversion. I like it so much I have a CZ-75 that I'm just leaving permanently switched to .22.
I picked up the Advantage Arms Glock 19/23 conversion kit for concealed draw practice. it's paid for itself in two years. Works great with CCI Mini Mags.
First of all I bought my tarus tx 22 based on yours and others reviews. I have been getting my trigger time in but today at about 4700 rounds the slide fractured on me .... I still love the gun and immediately want a replacement lol but this should be known
Thanks for your review. I just watched another video on the Glock 44 and the point for me using the 22 is cheap amo. That it will not run the less expensive ammo is a deal breaker. Watching it fail to fire time and again was unbearable. I'm glad u flagged that point. I appreciate for some people the price of the amo is a a none issue.
I have a conversion kit for my Beretta 92. so I still work my double and single action with identical trigger dynamics. If i didnt have the 9mm already, I would definitely go with the dedicated 22LR version. You did not mention the Sig Arms 1911 22LR. this is almost identical to a standard 1911, except for the weight. it has the same fire controls, mag size, and actually uses stock M1911 parts. my other favorite "trainer".
Good video for the specific topic. I'd like to see more. That being said the only 22lr pistol I own is a Beretta Neos. I used one to qualify for my CCL and bought my own a year later. It's not like any other 22lr but a ton of fun to shoot. I use it for golf balls at 7 yards. I hang them on strings and plink away. My EDC and also my bedside gun is .45 ACP so the 9mm trainers do me little good. I'm sure they'll help a lot of people. Thanks for posting.
Carolina Gun Guy exactly. My time spend with an old single shot .22 rifle and a browning buckmark has made me a better shooter with everything I’ve shot since
@@dannylandrum7899 well if you plan to carry a Glock that is a similar size to the 44 it kinda makes sense. Same feel and trigger, but I still wouldnt have a G44, TX22 all the way.
The Smith and Wesson M&P 22 and 22C. Have NicTaylor00 13rd conversions in my 22C mags and 16rd conversions in my 22 mags with no problems. In either. Have two of the Taurus TX-22's and love them too. Not carrying the TX-22's but have carried both M&P 22 and 22C after running in 300-400 rounds. I keep CCI Stingers in them and the two extra mags when I carry either one. Put 5-6 rounds of high velocity 22lr in somebody's face and I assure you they are going to leave you alone. Will I carry a TX-22? Probably, after I finish a leather holster and double mag pouch for it. I've got a Plain black TX and the FDE frame and slide version from Academy. Yea, I paid $300 for the FDE version and $230 for the black version. Got 10 extra 16rd mags for each because its more fun to shoot than reload mags.
I just got the TX22 over the Glock 44. However I had to modify the recoil spring (flatten the end)due to the gouging of the slide that others have had issues with.
I normally vote with the Plinkster but I don't own any of those for a reason. What about Ruger mk or Smith and Wesson Victory. I have used and own these and they never fail.
@@AmateurRedneckWorkshop Because a trainer is a .22 lr version of another gun, whereas the Mk and Victory are only available in .22 lr. I guess the TX22 could be a trainer for the G3 even though they are different.
@@LatestHour I have the G3 and TX 22. They feel much different to me for whatever reason. I like the TX much better. But I do have more trigger time with the TX.
I recently picked up an EAA Witness with 9mm and 22lr slides. It's the most accurate shooting 22 pistol trainer I have tried. 5" barrel helps with the accuracy. I do like your Beretta though.
Honorable mention is the Heritage Arms Rough Rider .22lr revolver. It's single action, has a safety and you can buy .22 magnum cylinders for it. I know it's not a pistol, but still a great trainer.
I started with a Smith&Wesson M&P 2.0 in 9mm and the wanted to shoot something which doesn't cost a much like the 9mm rounds. I ended up with the Walther PPQ M2 in .22 lr and never looked back. That gun is amazingly accurate (or I am a terrific shooter) so I decided after shooting the little Walther to get her big brother in .45. Wow what a gun. I am in love with Walther's guns so I might trade my M&P for a PPQ in 9mm. I recommend the Walther PPQ M2 in both .22 lr and .45 but be warned their trigger is a loose cannon .. literally. Those guns should be used only by someone who has experience with hand guns. Otherwise you might be in for a nasty surprise.
I'd love to see a version of this video which is the top five *affordable* 22lr competition pistols. Unfortunately many of those come with threaded barrels which means they will soon be illegal to buy, sell, or import into the state of Washington
I want to get into hunting. Maybe on the other channel do a video or a series of hunting with a .22. Comparing short, LR, Magnum & Hornet. What can you effectively hunt, maximum effective range.
@@brianproffitt7263 they're 25buck for 50. So I got one for fun. Should be fun with a Franklin bsf3. They also have dragonsbreath for .22lr, 9mm and .223, 12ga, etc. Pretty cool site.
Based on the COVID year dec 2020 it’s very hard to find .22 lr semi auto’s and when you do they are like ammo overpriced. Recently after chasing to stores for a solid 2 weeks I had the opportunity to purchase a Beretta M9 .22 lr or a Glock 44 22 lr . Based on good reviews on Beretta and poor reviews on Glock I bought the Beretta. Either of them were selling for $400. I chose the Beretta for a couple things one was the 15+1 capacity with metal magazine, also ability to single and double action.
In my 60+ years on this planet you are the only person I have ever heard pronounce it "ell arr" and every time I hear you say it it makes me twitch. Must be a southern thang,
Ed Graves If he’s the only person you’ve heard pronounce the acronym itself then you must’ve spent your 60+ years under a rock cause it’s much more common for people to say “LR.”
Got my firs 22 rifle around 8 years old. It shot Short, Long & Long Rifle. And that is how we identified them. Nobody called them 22S, or 22L, or 22LR. But Hell you youngsters call them what you want & don't get your panties a twist. I'm done.
To those that say "you should train with the caliber you'll shoot..." meaning 9am, 5.56, etc. as Dave says, I would point out that when it comes to maneuvering and handling the firearm, the operation, manual of arms and actions required to move around obstacles, etc. *stays the same.* You get to feel the size, weight (with respect to the firearm proper... Yes, the ammo weight varies) and operation of the weapon you will be using without the distraction of the report and recoil of the larger round. There is a reason why the military uses. 22lr in the M16 for weapons familiarization and standard range training, i.e. at basic, etc. Not in the shoot houses and the "big boys" training. It's cheaper, causes less wear and tear on the firearm and the act of "going through the motion" is easier to concentrate on for beginners. [Deep breath] Sooo... Quit complaining and worrying about "being macho/tough/faithful to caliber or whatever word you would like to insert here... And go have some fun shooting and learn how to manipulate your weapon *correctly* before spending a bunch of dough on the higher caliber ammo. There are specials right now on the .22lr conversion kitsch for AR weapons. Just be sure you replace/add all the pertinent parts... Not just the bolt and magazine, which will ensure smooth, functional trigger time. The cost of .22 vs. .223 right now more than covers the cost of the conversion process. Go shoot .22!
@@CouchDoritos I appreciate your words. I did clarify and amended my post, in basic and initial training in the Airforce, thry used .22lr. Once you're in "the world" and we were in the shoot house (nor all of us rode chairs 😉), then it was M855 so, I acquiesce. Thanks for having my back and keeping me honest, I didn't mean to mislead/inform anyone, as I went back and reread it, I realized that a tired, 2am post can be a little lacking. hehe But I do maintain that running things like the Glock, etc. in .22lr and an AR in .22lr can get beginners comfortable with handling/shooting/learning the manual of arms before they start in on the "expensive stuff" and save both some money and the "yips" that entry level shooters can get. That's what I was "shooting for." 😉
I’ve had absolutely zero issues having the Taurus TX22 as a cc pistol but I have a cc holster designed for full size pistols and I use it with the tp9sft now and I hardly know it’s there
brianburnett15 my buckmark doesn’t need fancy ammo though. It loves Thunderbolts, and is cheaper, and has a better grip angle with better sights. I win 😬
@@beardoggin8963 I'm headed to buy a buckmark right now. I'm going to shoot the glock with the buckmark and make the world a better place. Death to the glock!!
Smith and Wesson m&p 22 compact is a beast. Runs everything and zero problems
Match King yep I own one and have fed it everything and have had 0 malfunctions
Match King yep, I have it too and after 4000 rounds, so far no issues...
I'll be honest mine jams on dam near everything! Q
I agree but the 22 compact is much smaller than an M&P9. They use to make (really was made by Walther) a full size M&P22 because I have one. Very reliable too.
Dezz Nutts that’s crazy man...Maybe you gotta bad one idk but I clean mine very thoroughly after every use since the 22 round is so dirty.
So what I do after I clean it real good is I apply a very small amount of oil on the rails and then with my cloth I wipe it all off right after. A thin layer of oil will still be on the rail but it’s not noticeable as it’s very thin...You probably already know this but a lot of guns fail because of having too much lube which causes a build up of dirt in all the moving parts. If you get a build up then the pistol won’t perform properly, especially a 22LR. But it’s the same with any pistol...
Also check your mags and make sure the spring is clean and working so as to get those rounds up to be chambered.
Idk man, you might have gotten a lemon but mine shoots fine and that’s after 4000 rounds or more.
The Glock 44 is a great trainer.
Learn how to clear jams, FTF, FTE AND double feeds. BRILLIANT!
Lol good point haha
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Joshua N. Ajang yes, it’s an excellent first gun to fire. Especially in a rifle like a Henry or a smith and Wesson m and p 15/22
Well I mean glock is trash so....yea.
I have both the Beretta 22LR and the GSG 1911 both are great with similar feelings of their big brothers.
The Ruger 22/45 is an excellent .22 with a 1911 grip angle.
The Ruger MKx pistols are excellent...PERIOD.
That's especially for the fourth generation guns that (at long last) took care of the problem of being a nightmare to reassemble.
Tippman M4 Elite pistol is an awesome training weapon, I have the Tippman M4 Elite rifle as well, over 3,2000 rounds without any issues. Tippman builds the best 22 LR AR style platform that’s available in the US.
My wife loves her Taurus TX .22. Fun and accurate zero problems so far with around a thousand rounds through it other than 1 or 2 standard dud 22 rounds.
Since I bought my TX22 my marksmanship has improved shooting my S&W 2.0 full-size. 👍
I love my Taurus TX-22!! :-)
Me to Mag extension. Red dot sight, very accurate. Outstanding reliability. Shooting standard velocity aguila with the red dot mounted on the slide no failures.
Mine would fire with the manual safety engaged. I got rid of it.
Jim Taylor should have tried to get taurus to fix it
I love mine too
@@brianproffitt7263 Their limited life time warranty is just that. Very limited. I got a Beretta m9 22 LR. And couldn't be happier.
I had a Smith & Wesson 622 for a BUNCH of years. I put well over 20,000 rounds through it. When I had problems with it, I sent it back to Smith & Wesson and they fixed it. I bet, I put another 10,000 rounds through it before I sold it and bought a Sig Sauer Mosquito. I miss my S&W 622.
Welp your 100% right on this being a training gun. (Glock44) cause it will teach people how to deal with non stop malfunctions
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I was looking at the G44 for my wife, what kind of malfunctions?? I have heard that they need 40 grain ammo to cycle...
Only bad gun glock has made recently
That's the main reason I want one for my son he can learn not to limp wrist fire and clear malfunctions
@@401threed7 the 40 grain does help but quality matters, too. Mine will not run reliably on 40 g. Federal bulk in the blu box, either. No problems on CCI minimag or Aguila super extra.
I am so thankful I found your videos !!!!! I am retired now and I always loved bb guns and shooting as a teen. I want to get into target shooting at a range, and it seems the best (and most economical) choice is 22 cal. I am now watching your third video this night, and you are a great help and so knowledgeable. Thank so much for these GREAT videos !!!!
I am surprised with the Glock after the bad review. I am also surprised the S&W M&P 22 didn’t make it.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MAKES ONE WONDER, DOES IT NOT?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
S+W M+P IS A GOOD PISTOL, PERHAPS THEY DID NOT WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TH-cam SALESMAN, EH WHAT???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 months ago I was deciding between a Glock 44 and the Taurus TX22.....I got the Taurus for my boy to introduce him to shooting. I loved the way it felt in my hand and the price was nice too. I myself own nothing but Smith&Wesson and thought about their 22lr, but I wanted to show my boy there are other brands out there and he needs to discover his likings. Good show of variety Big D 🤘
Mark Villalon The Taurus’s was a good choice. I hope your boy loves it. That’s a freaking killer little gun. I like the Glock 44 but it only likes premium Gas lol. I also don’t think the 44 is going to hold up very well over time because of the way it was built. I wish when I was a kid we had cool guns like that Taurus. Kids who shoot now days got it good with the guns that are out now.
Dan Miller He loves it. He also loved my M&P 2.0 .40.......I said no LOL
I picked up the tx22, and boy, does it stove pipe. Been through it several times, different ammo, properly cleaned and oiled. Not enjoyable at all with the sheer amount of malfunctions. A real shame. Hopefully, this is an anomaly and not the norm.
The S&W M&P 22LR is another good understudy to the 9mm M&P.
I like my 22lr Kadet kit for my CZ P09, I get to practice with the same gun, holster, talon grips, Dawson sights and Cajun Gun Works Trigger no matter what caliber makes it a great trainer. Quality parts straight from CZ to train military and police overseas
Yes, finally a 22 plinkster video! I needed something to watch lol..... I'm Bored..... so bored.
Garrett Irwin I’m with you on that
Got the Walther runs on anything I feed it No problems
Gsg/sig 1911 22 is probably my favorite 22 trainer
I have 2- mp15/22 that to tweak extractor but runs everything also have a gsg firefly a signal sauer copy eats everything no issues have walther p22 very finicky going to be tuning it can't wait to get a Taurus keep up the excellent work
Missing the M&P Compact 22. I think it's better than some on that table. I'm currently dealing with an issue on a Taurus and Taurus won't answer my emails or my calls. S&W has always been easy to get a hold of when I had questions and has even sent me parts I lost.
Outstanding !! Finally, bought the Taurus as a training aide, now your pick as one. Great little pistol that doesn't feel little at all. Feels like a full size 9mm pistol
God Bless
I recently picked up a S&W M&P .22 full size. (Like the M&P 9). I have only put 350 rounds through it, but it has been 100% so far.
I am carrying my Taurus TX22 today with no problem and I am not a huge guy. Thanks for the video.
I’m very new to guns; however i was suprised the ruger 22 wasn’t on this list. A lot of gun shop owners recommended it to me to train with.
Nice comparison, thx! And yeah, I know the 'Ring of Fire' guns get no love, but perfectly happy with my Phoenix HP-22, which seems to shoot damn near everything I feed it, is comfortable, very compact and 'does the job', and at
The video and review I been looking for so long! Knocked it out of the park... .22 training fire arms that mimics higher ammo guns... all you need...
Love that TX-22!
Mine turned out to be junk.
Jim Taylor wow my son has one that’s awesome.
Jim Taylor No kidding? What happened with it?
@@NarySllim I got the manual safety version, and the dang thing would fire with the safety engaged.
Jim Taylor Major concern there, send it right back for a fix if you haven’t. I’d expect a phone call back with some answers on a deal like that.
My nephew has a GSG 1911. We have shot it a lot and it seems to work well. We mostly run the Fed 36 gr 525 rounds per box. With an adapter it will take a suppressor.
I put 25k rounds through mine. Absolutely the best 1911 trainer on the market.
I love my Tippmann M4-22 Micro Pistol. I traded me GSG-16 for it. The GSG-16 was fun to shoot, but it felt like a kids toy.
@Kyle Hartley
My GSG-16 never jammed on me. But I didn't like all the plastic... it felt cheap.
Hey Plinkster,I’d like to see top 5 22LR wheel guns.
Excellent. Please keep these coming.
Great video, always a fan of the .22lr cci on my Bersa.22 ....Thanks!
Love my Taurus TX22. Glad you put it on the list.
You’re right on with everything you mentioned in this video. That 44 is a great gun as long as your shooting good ammo in it. My opinion is if your going to shoot a good gun shoot good ammo through it so you don’t risk damaging it due to a weak round and stove piping as well as many other things that could happen with cheap ammo. If I’m just having fun I pull out my p22 and then Id use cheap 22 ammo because I know for a fact it will take it but if I’m doing serious target shooting or training and or shooting my Glock44 which is a little higher end gun and more finicky I’m going to be using some good ammo hands down. Cheap ammos good for having some fun in a revolver or single shot and on occasion in guns that you know will eat them without problem. But if you want to do serious target shooting and sharpen your skills you have to have reliable ammo or else every bullet will just be all over the board in terms of load strength,trajectory, and reliability. I mean good ammos only a few bucks more when your talking shooting 22s it’s well worth the extra money in my opinion cheap ammo will just cause you pain and can potentially cause damage to your gun. I do use cheap ammo on occasion but only in the guns I know can handle cheap ammo and not fail and that’s only When I don’t care about how true the rounds will be and I’m just playing around shooting just too shoot again this is a killer video Brother hope to see more like this soon!!!
Awesome video plinkster? Five fantastic rimfire guns! I live for 22lr!
I just bought the 9mm PPQ, it's amazing.
The TX22 is a great 22 pistol. About the same size as a G19. But what a gun.
I'm a fan of conversions: CMMG .22 bolt for your AR and advantage arms .22 slide for your Glock or 1911. I have the Glock variant and if use their suggested ammo for 300-500 rds to break in then you can almost feed it anything. I used CCI blazer 40gr Rd nose to break in. Plus throw them in your Bug out bag w .22 ammo and you got your Armageddon guns
I own the M&P 22 compact and it’s a great pistol....I also heard the Ruger SR 22 is a real nice choice as well..
I have a 1911a1 .45 I bought a few years ago .shoots 45 well and is a WWII clone.I happened to stumble into a Colt ACE .22 conversion for the .45 frame and is one of my most liked and fun to shoot .22 I have ,and the recoil and weight are very close to the .45 slide weight and it uses current GSG magazines.jim
Good picks. The glock has become my favorite. It was picky with bulk initially but runs anything after break in. Taurus ran great at first and now jams frequently. Love the capacity but the barrel rifling is horrible. I've had zero replies from their customer service after multiple emails and no one answers the customer service line. Tippman for the win though.
The walther with a suppressor on it: excellent idea for introducing someone to firearms. Thanks!
I recommend the Colt/Umerax 1911, very reliable. The Beretta 92 is so great!
If you replace the factory recoil spring. It still isn't up to the GSG standard which is an actual 1911 design and not a blowback design.
John Shepherd I heard that. I haven’t had any problems out of the Colt 1911 but I only use CCI ammo. After the last scare and ammo dried up I slowly stocked up on ammo. I have ammo cans full of CCI 36 and 40 grain minimags so I don’t have any reason to experiment with other ammo
Love your videos. I have a GSG 1911 22lr and love it BUT it still comes in second to the TX 22. It is an awesome gun
Can't argue the utility of any of the guns you chose but I am going to suggest the GSG 1911-22 instead of the Taurus. I get why you personally chose it but there are more people using some kind of 1911 than a VP9.
Gsg 1911 I would strongly recommend that because it’s a lot of fun to shoot and it’s one of the best triggers I’ve ever shot even better than a real 1911
I bought the PPQ 22 to go with my 9mm PPQ and I love it. Only problem, my .22 is the M2, and my 9mm has the paddle mag release. I like the paddles much better after I got used to them.
The best 22 Lr training tool that i own , is my CZ Kadet-II 22 Lr conversion kit . It fits the CZ P01 , CZ-75D PCR and my CZ-75 SP01. The 22 Lr conversion kit shoots every 22 Lr ammo even the cheap bulk 22 Lr ammo. Best 420 dollars i have ever spent , worth ever penny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are so many that could've made it to your table, I imagine it was difficult to choose among them. There are the Ruger 4522 types, the GSG 1911 lookalikes, Kimber makes, or made, a nice 1911 type .22, so many to pick from.
Sig and Gsg owners are brothers, I heard.
Gsg factory makes Sigs and Kimbers according to their respective specs.
@@layrad Yes, the Sigs and GSGs are the same firearms, the Kimber I'm referring to is the Model Rimfire Target, an all aluminum Colt-like pistol not like the GSGs. Mine is labeled, on the frame, Kimber, Yonkers NY USA. It seems to be a pretty well made pistol.
I trained my grand-daughter on a 1947 High Standard HB, the only problem is that I'll never get it back!
Kau Ph'aart the old High Standard is hard to beat - I have two
Would love more like this. Especially if you find that 1911 that is realistic and reliable to review
I bought the Tx22 because when I picked it up up it felt so close to my VP9. It's been a phenomenal training gun. I've been shooting my VP9 better/faster since then
Oh. You left off the M&P 22 compact and it runs way better than the Glock 44
Mr. Mr. this! He already said the g44 was trash. Somebody got paid 👀
Glock money.
MP22 made it on his self defense video
If it was not on the table, probably means tne G44 is much better... 22plinkster have enough experiences with 22's. Sorry for your m&p,
Glock44, good for clearing malfunction drills
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Shit, i will not improve my skills with the g44 i bought for clearing malfunctions, sadly it work perfect with any kind of ammunition.. i should have keep my issc m22 that jammed every 3 shots...
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I had bought a Ruger 22/45 with a bull barrel, originally as a training pistol. The controls are in the same place as a 1911's controls, and the grip angle is the same, but really that's about it for it being similar to the 1911. I eventually re-purposed it to a bullseye target pistol with a So-Low mount holding a red-dot site and some Volquartsen internals. Now, that pistol is so accurate, it is downright boring to shoot. But, at least I used to do well on bullseye contests.
You had me till glock...unless you are training for malfunctions for glock, just get a .22 that's actually reliable with everything,for cheaper. Plus how is the Smith&wesson. 22 not on list and that junk is??????Great video and knowledgeable as always! Thank you
Good choices ! I have two of those top five !
Oh, the Beretta looks sweet ...
Hell yea, now I want one lol.
Lubos Soltes my favorite of the semi 22s
I picked one up for $300 a few months back. Used it to introduce my 9 year old son into pistols. He loves it.
Korey Romanchuk I’m 20 an I love it still 😂 even after shooting bigger I will always love 22
@@brianproffitt7263 oh I love it too. The zero recoil, i love shooting steel rapidily hearing that ding after every shot...I have zero issues using it for self defense knowing I can unload 16 rounds into someone accurately if need be. And it has zero issues with any ammo I've fed it.
If you ever get the chance try out a CZ-75 with the .22 cal. Kadet conversion. I like it so much I have a CZ-75 that I'm just leaving permanently switched to .22.
I picked up the Advantage Arms Glock 19/23 conversion kit for concealed draw practice. it's paid for itself in two years. Works great with CCI Mini Mags.
For training those are the best picks for new shooters. I bought an ATI, GSG fire fly for my wife and she loves it. Thanks, great review.
First of all I bought my tarus tx 22 based on yours and others reviews.
I have been getting my trigger time in but today at about 4700 rounds the slide fractured on me ....
I still love the gun and immediately want a replacement lol but this should be known
Thanks for your review. I just watched another video on the Glock 44 and the point for me using the 22 is cheap amo. That it will not run the less expensive ammo is a deal breaker. Watching it fail to fire time and again was unbearable. I'm glad u flagged that point. I appreciate for some people the price of the amo is a a none issue.
I have a conversion kit for my Beretta 92. so I still work my double and single action with identical trigger dynamics. If i didnt have the 9mm already, I would definitely go with the dedicated 22LR version.
You did not mention the Sig Arms 1911 22LR. this is almost identical to a standard 1911, except for the weight. it has the same fire controls, mag size, and actually uses stock M1911 parts. my other favorite "trainer".
Good video for the specific topic. I'd like to see more. That being said the only 22lr pistol I own is a Beretta Neos. I used one to qualify for my CCL and bought my own a year later. It's not like any other 22lr but a ton of fun to shoot. I use it for golf balls at 7 yards. I hang them on strings and plink away. My EDC and also my bedside gun is .45 ACP so the 9mm trainers do me little good. I'm sure they'll help a lot of people. Thanks for posting.
Trainer gun = any gun that you can shoot a lot.
Trainer gun = .22 LR replica of another gun.
Carolina Gun Guy exactly. My time spend with an old single shot .22 rifle and a browning buckmark has made me a better shooter with everything I’ve shot since
Which excludes the single shot glock. What a terribly disappointing recommendation.
@@dannylandrum7899 well if you plan to carry a Glock that is a similar size to the 44 it kinda makes sense. Same feel and trigger, but I still wouldnt have a G44, TX22 all the way.
@@beardoggin8963 I guess you're right - it would make you exceptionally skilled at malf drills.
The Smith and Wesson M&P 22 and 22C. Have NicTaylor00 13rd conversions in my 22C mags and 16rd conversions in my 22 mags with no problems. In either. Have two of the Taurus TX-22's and love them too. Not carrying the TX-22's but have carried both M&P 22 and 22C after running in 300-400 rounds. I keep CCI Stingers in them and the two extra mags when I carry either one. Put 5-6 rounds of high velocity 22lr in somebody's face and I assure you they are going to leave you alone. Will I carry a TX-22? Probably, after I finish a leather holster and double mag pouch for it. I've got a Plain black TX and the FDE frame and slide version from Academy. Yea, I paid $300 for the FDE version and $230 for the black version. Got 10 extra 16rd mags for each because its more fun to shoot than reload mags.
I own 2 out of the five! (Beretta and Glock) I train with those 2 a lot so this video is spot on.
I have a ar-15 and I got a cmmg 22 conversion kit it's just the bolt carrier group that you put in and it comes with the 22 magazine's
I've been waiting for a video like this, thanks for making it.
(8 months later comes me)
I own the Beretta, ZERO COMPLAINTS. I also own the Browning 1911 22. (Overpriced IMO), but has also got no complaints.
I just got the TX22 over the Glock 44. However I had to modify the recoil spring (flatten the end)due to the gouging of the slide that others have had issues with.
Glock doesn't belong on that table. The moment a rim fire needs special ammo you missing the point.
I think so too. Glock might not be the go to for .22. The things run like cigarrette automats as long as it's 9 mil though ;-).
It's very un-Glock like to not be reliable with all ammo types, but CCI is still half the price of the cheapest 9mm, and Aguila is even cheaper.
I normally vote with the Plinkster but I don't own any of those for a reason. What about Ruger mk or Smith and Wesson Victory. I have used and own these and they never fail.
@@AmateurRedneckWorkshop Because a trainer is a .22 lr version of another gun, whereas the Mk and Victory are only available in .22 lr. I guess the TX22 could be a trainer for the G3 even though they are different.
@@LatestHour I have the G3 and TX 22. They feel much different to me for whatever reason. I like the TX much better. But I do have more trigger time with the TX.
I recently picked up an EAA Witness with 9mm and 22lr slides. It's the most accurate shooting 22 pistol trainer I have tried. 5" barrel helps with the accuracy. I do like your Beretta though.
I'm in favour of more 'top 5' 22LR videos.
Honorable mention is the Heritage Arms Rough Rider .22lr revolver. It's single action, has a safety and you can buy .22 magnum cylinders for it. I know it's not a pistol, but still a great trainer.
No revolvers in the top 5? Awesome.!
That totally justifies a top 5 22lr revolver training video :-)
G44, I didn't see that coming.
Did you miss something? Yes. But good job, anyhow. Thank you for making these videos, they are very helpful and entertaining.
I started with a Smith&Wesson M&P 2.0 in 9mm and the wanted to shoot something which doesn't cost a much like the 9mm rounds. I ended up with the Walther PPQ M2 in .22 lr and never looked back. That gun is amazingly accurate (or I am a terrific shooter) so I decided after shooting the little Walther to get her big brother in .45. Wow what a gun. I am in love with Walther's guns so I might trade my M&P for a PPQ in 9mm. I recommend the Walther PPQ M2 in both .22 lr and .45 but be warned their trigger is a loose cannon .. literally. Those guns should be used only by someone who has experience with hand guns. Otherwise you might be in for a nasty surprise.
I'd love to see a version of this video which is the top five *affordable* 22lr competition pistols. Unfortunately many of those come with threaded barrels which means they will soon be illegal to buy, sell, or import into the state of Washington
I want to get into hunting. Maybe on the other channel do a video or a series of hunting with a .22. Comparing short, LR, Magnum & Hornet. What can you effectively hunt, maximum effective range.
22, 9mm, an 5.56 are my favorites. Love to shoot all three of them, but like you said can’t find ether anywhere. The guy I go to is even out of 22.
Outdoorlimited.com has some. Just got 5000 .22lr super extra's. And some green tracers. Oooooh
Ryan Richardson never had tracers before, always wanted to shoot some of them tho
@@brianproffitt7263 they're 25buck for 50. So I got one for fun. Should be fun with a Franklin bsf3. They also have dragonsbreath for .22lr, 9mm and .223, 12ga, etc. Pretty cool site.
Ryan Richardson definitely checking them out thanks
@22plinkster you should make a video on 1911 22lr’s from cheapest to most expensive
Love my tx22. Have the standard and competition upper. Want to get the compact. My tippmann should be in tomorrow!
Ruger sr22, Victory , both accurate, dependable out of the box.
Based on the COVID year dec 2020 it’s very hard to find .22 lr semi auto’s and when you do they are like ammo overpriced. Recently after chasing to stores for a solid 2 weeks I had the opportunity to purchase a Beretta M9 .22 lr or a Glock 44 22 lr . Based on good reviews on Beretta and poor reviews on Glock I bought the Beretta. Either of them were selling for $400. I chose the Beretta for a couple things one was the 15+1 capacity with metal magazine, also ability to single and double action.
In my 60+ years on this planet you are the only person I have ever heard pronounce it "ell arr" and every time I hear you say it it makes me twitch. Must be a southern thang,
Ed Graves If he’s the only person you’ve heard pronounce the acronym itself then you must’ve spent your 60+ years under a rock cause it’s much more common for people to say “LR.”
Got my firs 22 rifle around 8 years old. It shot Short, Long & Long Rifle. And that is how we identified them. Nobody called them 22S, or 22L, or 22LR.
But Hell you youngsters call them what you want & don't get your panties a twist.
I'm done.
Let’s see your zombie load out. That seems to be a fun video topic going around. We need some fun fantasy videos about now. Thanks for the video.
Gsg 1911 .22 is a good one too. Not to mention s&w m&p 15-22 but that’s a rifle... 👍 good video
To those that say "you should train with the caliber you'll shoot..." meaning 9am, 5.56, etc. as Dave says, I would point out that when it comes to maneuvering and handling the firearm, the operation, manual of arms and actions required to move around obstacles, etc. *stays the same.* You get to feel the size, weight (with respect to the firearm proper... Yes, the ammo weight varies) and operation of the weapon you will be using without the distraction of the report and recoil of the larger round. There is a reason why the military uses. 22lr in the M16 for weapons familiarization and standard range training, i.e. at basic, etc. Not in the shoot houses and the "big boys" training. It's cheaper, causes less wear and tear on the firearm and the act of "going through the motion" is easier to concentrate on for beginners.
[Deep breath] Sooo... Quit complaining and worrying about "being macho/tough/faithful to caliber or whatever word you would like to insert here... And go have some fun shooting and learn how to manipulate your weapon *correctly* before spending a bunch of dough on the higher caliber ammo.
There are specials right now on the .22lr conversion kitsch for AR weapons. Just be sure you replace/add all the pertinent parts... Not just the bolt and magazine, which will ensure smooth, functional trigger time.
The cost of .22 vs. .223 right now more than covers the cost of the conversion process. Go shoot .22!
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I appreciate your words. I did clarify and amended my post, in basic and initial training in the Airforce, thry used .22lr. Once you're in "the world" and we were in the shoot house (nor all of us rode chairs 😉), then it was M855 so, I acquiesce. Thanks for having my back and keeping me honest, I didn't mean to mislead/inform anyone, as I went back and reread it, I realized that a tired, 2am post can be a little lacking. hehe
But I do maintain that running things like the Glock, etc. in .22lr and an AR in .22lr can get beginners comfortable with handling/shooting/learning the manual of arms before they start in on the "expensive stuff" and save both some money and the "yips" that entry level shooters can get. That's what I was "shooting for." 😉
I’ve had absolutely zero issues having the Taurus TX22 as a cc pistol but I have a cc holster designed for full size pistols and I use it with the tp9sft now and I hardly know it’s there
I was surprised that the Ruger SR22 wasn't in this list. It's a great little plinker.
Get your hands on one of those CWA 22LR race guns! It's pricey but it should fill the void of 1911/2011 style guns in your channel.
I have that very PPQ .22. I love to shoot it, almost more than my PPQ in 9mm. Want to get that Beretta as a trainer for my M9A3.
Excellent selections
The Browning 1911/22 is a great gun. Accurate, no feeding issues. I don't like the plastic guide rod but maybe I'm just being snooty.
Missing: S&W K-22, a K frame revolver
I never knew you had eye balls.
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I own a G44. Love it. Never had a failure (500rds)but I've also never failed to buy decent ammo. Weird how that works.
brianburnett15 my buckmark doesn’t need fancy ammo though. It loves Thunderbolts, and is cheaper, and has a better grip angle with better sights. I win 😬
@@beardoggin8963 I'm headed to buy a buckmark right now. I'm going to shoot the glock with the buckmark and make the world a better place. Death to the glock!!
Anyone who says 9mm is almost as cheap doesn't spend 300 rounds in a short range day
Ya the other day I shot around 300 rounds out of my aunts beretta 21a