I'm hoping each of the defence counsel should take at least 2 to 3 weeks each with gininda so it will ware him out will all his explanation and start getting frustrated, lose focus and thereby lose the plot this exposing the truth of what really happened.
I think gininda took up a LLB course just cos of this case thinking he can beat the defense at their own game not cos he has a passion for law. He's studying law so he break the law without getting caught.
Judge president J P Mlambo and the minister of justice and public protector, why are they quiet. They are the ones to make sure that justice is served for Senzo, his family and South Africa as a whole. Arresting the wrong people is miscarriage of justice..
Clantis I remember than what I had done in 1997 when Princess Diana died. I heard about it the Sunday morning that she died the previous Saturday night and I am 63yrs. Gininda is mad
I even remember the date and what I was watching: 31 August 1997 and I was watching CNN when the transmission was abruptly cut off and straight to BREAKING NEWS.
@nthabelengmangwale1714 Enkulu dear Ukwazi nje ukuti June 16 its a holiday e Mzanzi wazi ukuti Gininda he is coming uzokubopha uya e ejele yaaaaaaa ne kabaziyeke ingane zabantu shemu azilacala
We all know that all accused in the trial are falsey arrested, however despite everything that's unfolding yena Ghininda is a wise man n he can well articulate his going to be a good lawyer that's my humble submission
Mnisi is going to fix this! i just want to understand that except the statements which are considered hearsay, what is the evidence that suggest that accuse two was involved!
Hi Clantis ..it really feels like the state is withholding the most important witnesses from the court and the judge is allowing it This case needs serious intervention by the parlement as the NPA is not doing their job at all ...like they had a session when Thabo Besters escape came to light
Besides the accuracy of the confession,the on making the confession will also need the best favorable punishment after confessing so one will definitely need a lawyer to make sure they get that
Ntanzi i believe the first thing he wanted was to contact family and they made sure that he has no contact because they could have advised him to get a lawyer not that arranged one whom we still asking who appointed him.
But when Mjiyako the so called lawyer of Ntanzi came, Ntazi stood up and says to Gininda this is my lawyer 🙄😂🤣😂 the very same Ntanzi who didn't want a lawyer
Gininda used the Zungus’ statements to pin Ntanzi on this crime and wants to add Simphiwe’s statement yet Simphiwe apparently passed in2016. It’s always mentioned in the news and we remember what happened to Senzo but now what we doing or where we were except if it was the day of the event important and close to me
Gininda is an advocate wanna be and in his mind he is already admitted to the bar. A bad cop trapped on a corner . He was thinking he is above the law because of his connection in high places.
I think it is important to remind everyone that everything said in court must be understood in relation to the definition of murder Viz unlawfully, intentionally killing of human being or causing death of another human being. So these theories that Gininda has crafted and placed the five accused next to them do not prove beyond reasonable doubt that the five accused killed the deceased or caused his death.
He even said he was investigating other accused not only Ntanzi but how??? because he told this court that they didn't know about others until accused 2 confessed. Yoh sewaqambe kakhulu uGininda amanga🚮🚮
Clantis Gininda is earning for nothing. He has done no investigations regarding this case. He is a dull man. No wonder he studies now when he is about to retire. He only adding an article on his obituary 😅
Quiet true clan. He introduced docket 636, changed a revolver to 9 mm pistol & everything started to fall in place except prima facie evidence e.g. AVL, DNA, Doctor's examination in respect of gold teeth. Dis Gininda guy is really & indeed something else in RSA😂
Yea Clantis it's so frustrating listening to gininda. In my opinion hee a hostile witness. Every answer is, "that's the first part.... and the second part is.... "
Gininda admitted that his interview with Ntanzi was official 😂😂 But dololo proformer, the sequence of events is giving it away that the nongoma, Vosloorus case of 2018 never existed. Mnisi is discrediting Gininda using his (Gininda) own words
On what basis can the police commissioner be called in to testify.Nthanzi must call his supervisor to testify and put it to him tha he was at work on the day of the incidence
I wouldn't use the term warning statement rather use the correct term on the heading of the document The word warning statement came from Gininda lets be careful
I wouldn't be charged for the murder of Senzo Meyiwa becoz I was working night shift on the 26 of October 2014.my work clocking records can prove that😊😊😊
I think Rata knows already that if he rules otherwise the matter would be taken for appeal and he does not care at all, because by that time he will be out of the scene
The so called ammunition carrying, gun selling, dangerous taxi hitman with multiple cases told Kholobarate that he was at work, and when the HR records proved otherwise, he was like "okay you got me, I want to confess to the killing of Senzo." This guy thinks we are fools. Kodwa I don't blame him because a lot of people believe him, therefore he thinks everyone is a moegoe. Allegedly
I don't know where in this video I made intellectual comparisons between these men. I didn't know that in a criminal court it was about who's smarter than the other instead of justice. I think your "humble" submission is extremely skewed.
He is smart because he talks too much,,then you don't know what smart means And you will see it is still early you will see the rain will be pouring in that useless court just watch and see Wena. Mnisi has an experience of a prosecutor and an advocate Gininda is just a mere Police who happened to have connections with high people But they are now distancing themselves from him because umqolo uvelile manje
Where have you ever heard or seen an investigator who reads.... investigation of his juniors and allowed to be the mouth piece of all of them while they are alive?Hai this is the first of its kind.
Hi 👋 clantis Mr golobareite Gininda hi think his clever hi take long to explaing about the question that advocate Mnisi wemvula 🌧️ ask him because his lying 🤥 big time 🥱 Mr golobareite Gininda iyoooo Gininda
😂😂this lawyers are very weak for that guy I think this accused person's must get other clever advocates.this investigating officer is just to strong for this lawyers 😢
No my brother,, unless the the judge is on their side that witness can't had acted in this way,, there now is a comfort zone that gives lieu way for gininda that we are in the some boat just know your story wrong of right I'm the matross or a captain of the ship,,,, ( that's judge ratha) so don't be scared not worry, I'll take care of all.... That is the game plan.
Mjiyako must produce proof of Ntanzi's payment for the service he provided.
Volume lapho bantuuuuuu true
How Ntanzi contacted him first
@@bongamendu3510 𝚒𝚝 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚜𝚊𝚒𝚍 𝚒𝚗 𝚌𝚘𝚞𝚛𝚝 𝙽𝚝𝚊𝚗𝚣𝚒'𝚜 𝚏𝚊𝚖𝚒𝚕𝚢 𝚌𝚘𝚗𝚝𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚎𝚍 𝙼𝚓𝚒𝚊𝚔𝚘 𝚜𝚘 𝙼𝚓𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚢𝚊 𝚖𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚙𝚛𝚘𝚟𝚒𝚍𝚎 𝚙𝚛𝚘𝚘𝚏 𝚘𝚏 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚏𝚒𝚗𝚊𝚗𝚌𝚒𝚊𝚕 𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚗𝚜𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚋𝚎𝚝𝚠𝚎𝚎𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚖 𝚒𝚝'𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚘𝚗𝚕𝚢 𝚠𝚊𝚢 𝚝𝚘 𝚌𝚊𝚝𝚌𝚑 𝚐𝚒𝚗𝚒𝚗𝚍𝚊 𝚒𝚗 𝚊 𝚋𝚒𝚐 𝚏𝚊𝚌𝚝 𝚕𝚒𝚎 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚎𝚡𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚝𝚎
@bongamendu3510 and the records of their correspondence ✔️
So good ADV. The best DEFENCE TEAM EVER THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK
Adv Mnisi did justice today👌 Gininda did not see it coming 😂😂😂😂
And Mnisi said to Ratha we are here for very long my lawd 😁🤞 o
How long is lonnggggg???😂😂 He is not liking this Judge Ratha😂
😅😅😅😅 Ratha youre evil personified.
@@sushelarajkumar367𝚓𝚞𝚍𝚐𝚎 𝚜𝚊𝚝𝚊𝚗
I'm hoping each of the defence counsel should take at least 2 to 3 weeks each with gininda so it will ware him out will all his explanation and start getting frustrated, lose focus and thereby lose the plot this exposing the truth of what really happened.
Mnisi very Brilliant 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@JohnSmith-j2o maybe adv. Mnisi should take Ramasapile under his wing and mentor him
TRUE INDEED
Hi Clans❤Mnisi is something else I'm telling you 😅tht man is brilliant 💯🤗
Who hired Mjiyako on behalf of Ntazi as Ntazi knows nothing.Mjiyako must be called to the witness box.Gininda is lying saying he does not Mjiyako.
It's Gininda
I am really waiting to hear the defence case because up to now they are changing their defence and just rubbishing the evidence
I think gininda took up a LLB course just cos of this case thinking he can beat the defense at their own game not cos he has a passion for law. He's studying law so he break the law without getting caught.
I seem to share the same belief. He is studying law for the wrong reasons. i think he has a lot to fear. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I agree with you fully,but he cannot master law like those have been in the field for long.
He won’t write on Saturday and Monday. He will prepare for this case
@@bongamendu3510 𝚒𝚗 𝚖𝚢 𝚘𝚙𝚒𝚗𝚒𝚘𝚗 𝚑𝚎'𝚜 𝚊 𝚖𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚌𝚘𝚗 𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚒𝚜𝚝 𝚑𝚎 𝚑𝚊𝚜 𝚜𝚒𝚕𝚟𝚎𝚛 𝚝𝚘𝚗𝚐𝚞𝚎 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚊 𝚏𝚊𝚜𝚝 𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚎𝚛 𝚕𝚒𝚔𝚎 𝚊 𝚏𝚛𝚎𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝 𝚝𝚛𝚊𝚒𝚗. 𝚃𝚑𝚎𝚜𝚎 𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚚𝚞𝚊𝚕𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚎𝚜 𝚘𝚏 𝚊 𝚖𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚙𝚞𝚕𝚊𝚝𝚘𝚛 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚊 𝚜𝚌𝚑𝚎𝚖𝚎𝚛.
He is still wet behind his ears 😂
Ratha is biased big time. You can see on his face when he go for lunchtime. Mnisi is doing a a good job
Judge president J P Mlambo and the minister of justice and public protector, why are they quiet. They are the ones to make sure that justice is served for Senzo, his family and South Africa as a whole. Arresting the wrong people is miscarriage of justice..
Good night Clantis thanks for what you done fr us
Thank you Clan🎉🎉let this liar of note exposed
@@thembiskosana-fx8kq 𝚢𝚎𝚜 𝚐𝚞𝚢𝚜 𝚒𝚝'𝚜 𝚒𝚖𝚙𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚝𝚒𝚟𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚕𝚒𝚊𝚛, 𝚍𝚎𝚌𝚎𝚒𝚟𝚎𝚛, 𝚜𝚌𝚑𝚎𝚖𝚎𝚛, 𝚖𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚙𝚞𝚕𝚊𝚝𝚘𝚛, 𝚌𝚘𝚗 𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚒𝚜𝚝 𝚌𝚛𝚒𝚖𝚒𝚗𝚊𝚕 𝚋𝚎 𝚎𝚡𝚙𝚘𝚜𝚎𝚍 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚛𝚎𝚖𝚘𝚟𝚎𝚍 𝚏𝚛𝚘𝚖 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚂𝙰𝙿𝚂 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚜𝚊𝚏𝚎𝚝𝚢 𝚘𝚏 𝚂𝚘𝚞𝚝𝚑 𝙰𝚏𝚛𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚗 𝚌𝚒𝚝𝚒𝚣𝚎𝚗𝚜.
I like the time Mnisi say look at me an tell the truth 😂😅
Body language is important 😂 do you know Mjiyako?
I laughed😂😂. Mnisi is tired of ginindas always lying with a straight face, now he's dealing with him in a psychological manner.
Oh yss. Gininda is cornered by Mnisi. Second time now. And he's far from over ( Mnisi ). Wemvula
Clantis I remember than what I had done in 1997 when Princess Diana died. I heard about it the Sunday morning that she died the previous Saturday night and I am 63yrs. Gininda is mad
I even remember the date and what I was watching: 31 August 1997 and I was watching CNN when the transmission was abruptly cut off and straight to BREAKING NEWS.
Tshukuti e Mzanzi ungazi Ukuti U Mandela watshona nini uyabotshwa ngoba uNtanzi ubotshelwe ukwazi I date yoooooooo
@@clantis Same here i was also watching CNN and was totally shocked!!!
@@CathrineDube-f6c😂😂😂 we in trouble mos
@nthabelengmangwale1714 Enkulu dear Ukwazi nje ukuti June 16 its a holiday e Mzanzi wazi ukuti Gininda he is coming uzokubopha uya e ejele yaaaaaaa ne kabaziyeke ingane zabantu shemu azilacala
Thanks Clantis for the accurate update.Finally Gininda has met his match.This proves he is a mere policeman.RSA is a democratic state.
@@rodneydlamini7364 true finally
We all know that all accused in the trial are falsey arrested, however despite everything that's unfolding yena Ghininda is a wise man n he can well articulate his going to be a good lawyer that's my humble submission
Mnisi is going to fix this! i just want to understand that except the statements which are considered hearsay, what is the evidence that suggest that accuse two was involved!
Hi this is the best team on this case wow. I was watching from Iraq until India now in Cape Town. I cannot miss this case
Mr mnisi is a loin edeed ❤❤❤❤
I can remember today still on that day i was having a braai alone when i saw the news😢😢
Hi Clantis ..it really feels like the state is withholding the most important witnesses from the court and the judge is allowing it
This case needs serious intervention by the parlement as the NPA is not doing their job at all ...like they had a session when Thabo Besters escape came to light
And there goes Ratha trying his best to save Gininda
Rata is main problem in this case
Besides the accuracy of the confession,the on making the confession will also need the best favorable punishment after confessing so one will definitely need a lawyer to make sure they get that
I'm glad how Mnisi is rooling, Advocate Mnisi for President ✊ ✊
Even me I was watching TV ibhola I was wearing green t-shirts and uzzi khaki 👖
Ntanzi i believe the first thing he wanted was to contact family and they made sure that he has no contact because they could have advised him to get a lawyer not that arranged one whom we still asking who appointed him.
According to gininda, anyone who would know the date that senzo died took part in the deletion.
Very absurd by the Brig. He is not ok upstairs.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gininda thought he is dreaming 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mjiyago Gininda 🫣 lawyer wow advocate Mnisi wemvula interesting wow 🔥 washa umliulo in court room it's raining 🌧️🌧️ Mnisi wemvula 🌧️❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
But when Mjiyako the so called lawyer of Ntanzi came, Ntazi stood up and says to Gininda this is my lawyer 🙄😂🤣😂 the very same Ntanzi who didn't want a lawyer
A lie is like a short blanket, the more you cover your face, the more the feet gets exposed
Definitely ❤
@DollyPillay well said. I like the way you put it
EBelinetha haykhona yooo Advocate Mnisi wemvula you Good well done ✅
Gininda used the Zungus’ statements to pin Ntanzi on this crime and wants to add Simphiwe’s statement yet Simphiwe apparently passed in2016. It’s always mentioned in the news and we remember what happened to Senzo but now what we doing or where we were except if it was the day of the event important and close to me
Wow 🔥🔥Mr Mnisi👋
Gininda is an advocate wanna be and in his mind he is already admitted to the bar. A bad cop trapped on a corner . He was thinking he is above the law because of his connection in high places.
I think it is important to remind everyone that everything said in court must be understood in relation to the definition of murder Viz unlawfully, intentionally killing of human being or causing death of another human being.
So these theories that Gininda has crafted and placed the five accused next to them do not prove beyond reasonable doubt that the five accused killed the deceased or caused his death.
He even said he was investigating other accused not only Ntanzi but how??? because he told this court that they didn't know about others until accused 2 confessed. Yoh sewaqambe kakhulu uGininda amanga🚮🚮
Clantis Gininda is earning for nothing. He has done no investigations regarding this case. He is a dull man. No wonder he studies now when he is about to retire. He only adding an article on his obituary 😅
Quiet true clan. He introduced docket 636, changed a revolver to 9 mm pistol & everything started to fall in place except prima facie evidence e.g. AVL, DNA, Doctor's examination in respect of gold teeth. Dis Gininda guy is really & indeed something else in RSA😂
Notice how Rhata has defaulted to his factory setting protecting the state as l colloberate subsequently in totality
How can you appoint a private laywer when you know you cant afford 😮
Hi Clantis. It is hot in court 🎉🎉🎉 to Mnisiwemvula
Thank you Clan
Yeah that long-name Benz put everyone in their place 😤😤😤
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yea Clantis it's so frustrating listening to gininda. In my opinion hee a hostile witness. Every answer is, "that's the first part.... and the second part is.... "
😂😂😂yhooo Gininda 😂😂😂a joke investigator
Not an investigator he is just a framist, he didn't investegeted anything just corroborated
@@DominicNdlovu-tv9tpI agree 💯💯💯 with you 💯💯💯
Gininda is a clown 😂
Gininda admitted that his interview with Ntanzi was official 😂😂
But dololo proformer, the sequence of events is giving it away that the nongoma, Vosloorus case of 2018 never existed.
Mnisi is discrediting Gininda using his (Gininda) own words
Jiki jiki Mjiyago came
Hi claints but prior he said he arranged mr jiyako for tanzi big liar known as geninda
Clantis, this guy didn't investigate, he just compiled statements.
And Mr golobareite Gininda this mjiyako lawyer is Mr Ginind's lawyer because Gininda his very big lier this man his very clever analysis 😂😂😂
And what languages did they use?
Mnisi did a better job for Ntanzi.....& Ramosepele knows it.
❤❤❤❤🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼Mnisi for Ntanzi 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️💘
but I think this was their strategy for Rams to lay the bases because Mnisi kept on referring Gininda to what he said during Rams cross examination.
@@lornagaika3962absolutely
On what basis can the police commissioner be called in to testify.Nthanzi must call his supervisor to testify and put it to him tha he was at work on the day of the incidence
I was mind blown by Mnisi he took the stand againt the bully Gininda,he thinks thay,since he bullied Ntanzi he can bully evryone else thats bullsh!+
What happened to Gininda today will take him time to forget. Lies have short legs.
The so called brilliant mr 2% Ginyinja was in court at Joburg as a SUSPECT,not witness,the brigadier appeared as a suspect at Jo'burg court😮😮😮😮😮
U go gel the intelligent one
Their cold case profiling is giving circumstantial evidence.
I wouldn't use the term warning statement rather use the correct term on the heading of the document
The word warning statement came from Gininda lets be careful
I wouldn't be charged for the murder of Senzo Meyiwa becoz I was working night shift on the 26 of October 2014.my work clocking records can prove that😊😊😊
Honestly I don't know where I was on 26/10/2014
I Even Know What Happened On 16 June 1976, I Was Not Even Born That Time. So Meaning They Can Come And Arrest Me Because I Know The Date 🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮
I think Rata knows already that if he rules otherwise the matter would be taken for appeal and he does not care at all, because by that time he will be out of the scene
Which exam is gininda writing on friday, if he didnt take study leave on Thursday? We are being played here. And rata doesnt question him.
Look at me sir
The so called ammunition carrying, gun selling, dangerous taxi hitman with multiple cases told Kholobarate that he was at work, and when the HR records proved otherwise, he was like "okay you got me, I want to confess to the killing of Senzo."
This guy thinks we are fools. Kodwa I don't blame him because a lot of people believe him, therefore he thinks everyone is a moegoe. Allegedly
Gininda said we asked him where were you on the 26/10/2014? What do you know about Senzo's death
Gininda.. is Tjhipir imakutu
On those restricted calls why would he nt call his Family lO bayasidakelwa
Exactly 💯💯💯
Gininda is smarter than Mnisi.that is my humble submission
I don't know where in this video I made intellectual comparisons between these men. I didn't know that in a criminal court it was about who's smarter than the other instead of justice. I think your "humble" submission is extremely skewed.
He is smart because he talks too much,,then you don't know what smart means
And you will see it is still early you will see the rain will be pouring in that useless court just watch and see Wena.
Mnisi has an experience of a prosecutor and an advocate
Gininda is just a mere Police who happened to have connections with high people
But they are now distancing themselves from him because umqolo uvelile manje
Members of the Clan, please assist me. What is the meaning of Coroboration and Cotoborate let alone used in one sentence 😂😂😂
I'm back my friend
waaaaaaa
Halaala😅 mnisi halala
Ziyalila eCourt
Zyakhala ke Manje
Too much bogus to be real.
Where have you ever heard or seen an investigator who reads....
investigation of his juniors and allowed to be the mouth piece of all of them while they are alive?Hai this is the first of its kind.
😅😅
weeeeeeeeee
Liars overexplain bro. Covering up
Hi 👋 clantis Mr golobareite Gininda hi think his clever hi take long to explaing about the question that advocate Mnisi wemvula 🌧️ ask him because his lying 🤥 big time 🥱 Mr golobareite Gininda iyoooo Gininda
😂😂this lawyers are very weak for that guy I think this accused person's must get other clever advocates.this investigating officer is just to strong for this lawyers 😢
Aibo I think you are on a wrong platform
Are you in a position to say who is weak and who is strong, and who are you
Eeh you are all over on TH-cam expect with negative comments😂😂 just heal and go comment on team state cause clearly you are not belong here.
No my brother,, unless the the judge is on their side that witness can't had acted in this way,, there now is a comfort zone that gives lieu way for gininda that we are in the some boat just know your story wrong of right I'm the matross or a captain of the ship,,,, ( that's judge ratha) so don't be scared not worry, I'll take care of all.... That is the game plan.
Wait for SABC comment platform on Tuesday 26th The Clan family don't entertain negative comments.