Late to the party, but I just upgraded the silent stroke heads on my e-kit to real feel on the snare and design on the toms (kick is a Roland tower). Incredible upgrade. All four heads with shipping were ~$150 and they really were shipped from Germany to the US in two days. If you're playing on silent strokes and tired of fussing with your module to get the double triggering out, I'd highly recommend it.
I made my own mesh heads for two layers of black widow screen and one layer of black woven polyester fabric. They feel better than all the other mesh heads I have purchased and are not too loud
Living in germany, I DAB on those shipment prices :d I am using drumtec real feels heads for practice and I switch to drum tec design to cheat my rebound for recording :)
Excellent Review Justin! I bought the Pro Line and the Real Feel. I enjoyed playing both. I am using the Real Feel Meshead on my Drum Tec Pro Snare at the moment.
I use a Real feel on my Jobeky snare, which I love and standard Roland heads on the rest of my kit. On an acoustic kit you usually have the snare cranked up more than the toms, so on my e drums I think it gives a similar feel. Definitely worth getting a real feel for your snare.
That's something [funny] I was hoping he was going to branch-off into that cymbal too, and play or either talk about it. I'm trying to move away from Roland rubber cymbals (don't like the way they feel on a side-swipe hits) they feel as they grab the stick when hitting; plus would like the real feel and low volume of a metal cymbal if not using the module to practice with. A lot the low-volume metal cymbals that I have researched have had a few cons to prevent me from pulling the trigger on purchasing a full (complete) set.
ive got a jobeky kit. and i gotta say i like it a lot. with a Drummit 3 module - im yet to learn how to use properly ( just yet !@) but the cymbals are good. feel natural. trigger well. i think they are 3 way, edge, bow and bell. my ride tho the bell is hard to play. i think its the cymbals design. gotta get the stickl real sideways to get in there, but its possible. and riding on the metal ride is a little loudish, tho not really loud ! and the rubber edge is really good for dulling sounds. but they play nicely. trigger well and feel a LOT LOT better than the thick unnatural rubber ones. i think these are the future. and the low volume holed versions, must be better than Jobeky's full metal versions in terms of sound !
Between the Real Feel and the Pro series, which do you think would work better w/ Zildjian L80 cymbals. From this video and the others you've said the Pros are closer to the volume level of the L80s but I'm guessing that's without reso heads on the bottom. What about if I am using normal reso heads as well as having snare wires on the snare. Will the Pros be louder than the L80s with resos? Will the Real Feels be closer in volume to L80s when combined with reso heads and snare wires?
HI, I really feel like the top level of mesh heads are very close to acoustics Snare but are very far from acoustic tom heads and by far not close to bass drums ,toms\bass acoustics absorb the hit and are not bouncy as much even when are loosen , I guess that is why Roland put sponge behind the bass mesh head. do you agree ?
Hey Justin - question for the question show - What are your thoughts on how soon Roland might be planning to release a new multipad to replace either the Octapad or the SPD-SX now that Alesis has a serious competitor to the SPD-SX in their new Srike Multipad? And do you recommend buying either the Octapad or the SPD-SX at this point given how long they have been out and the likelihood that they will be replaced at some point, and also against the new Strike Multipad?
I guess it's another prime example of "to each it's own", good solid feel in a stick and appears they would last a long time even with a lot of rim-shots. I ended-up purchasing a pair of "Classic 7A" (wanted to go LIGHTER, on the e-drum set, compared to my usual 5A or 5B). Although as expected, they seemed thin to hold after playing them and they were small in length. Kept dropping them, being I'm now hitting a smaller surface of e-drums compared to the larger surface of acoustics (missing impact zone). Ended-up going back to the local music store the next day and purchased a pair of "Vic Firth - Buddy Rich" sticks. They had that "lighter feel" I was looking for without sacrificing the solid feel and length, to accurately hit the smaller e-drum pads/cymbals. Although I have yet to noticed anything in my playing that resembles anything near Buddy Rich ;-)
Real feel great, they almost can't break The cons with it arr fairly normal they get dusty because you hit it it will become darker in the middle and the logos can get warped in the process of making them
Hey Justin. just purchased a Roland TD17KVX and was wondering with the one input left if I should add a 4'th cymbal or tom? which upgrade in your experience would enhance the kit more?
Chris Cole. What I did was build a drum splitter (they are cheap to make - just plugs and a 100k resistor) then split the aux between a crash cymbal and a low tom. You just set rim to cymbal and head to tom in the module. 👍
Yes and No ... I recently just purchased one (Td-17KVX); being new to this world was a learning curve that cost me some money. One great FREE investments is, watching a lot of the videos out there from people like Justin, you learn a lot. If you're okay with the sounds of Roland, then "yes" by all means. I've spent a lot of money afterwards (other software, amps, and even another snare). Now granted you will not need to follow them steps, they were just preferences of my own desires. The TD17-KVX was hard to find a seller at the time to purchase from but for the money (cheap investment) they are well worth it, if you're okay with the sounds. One thing I would recommend if you were looking for some good "sounds" to download into your module, there's a company called "V-expression's". Which from my understanding/research they're people whom have their finger-print with Roland sound-builds. I purchased their TD-17 sound samples $50 then they had a rebate attached bring it to $38 mark. There's also some samples that "Drum-Tec" offers too, I have not purchased that yet. I just recently purchased Addictive Drummer 2 (black Friday week 1/2 off). Little frustrated with that software though. If you were going to venture to another; I would mention 2Box (if you can find them - check Reverb web). They have some really good sounds in their modules. Although I have never tried them out yet, just heard their sounds on youtube. Of course you could just throw and extra grand -or- two into the mix and find a Drum-Tec drum set with a Pearl Mimic Pro attached. But for $1700 the TD17-KVX was well worth it IMHO. Justin has a lot of video's pertaining to both of them sets you are looking at .. Good Luck
You mean like monthly payments? You'll walk out paying way more than they were worth unless you make the one time payment. Other than that, I wouldn't recommend it. You can't be sure you'll always have the payment on time. A lot also rely heavily on credit. Guitar Center and Sweetwater usually rely on this and are only partnered with agencies that base who is eligible or not off of that alone. If you still want to do it, hope you have good credit so the monthly payment isn't as much. If you don't ha e credit, try a leasing agency, assuming one can work with them.
Late to the party, but I just upgraded the silent stroke heads on my e-kit to real feel on the snare and design on the toms (kick is a Roland tower).
Incredible upgrade. All four heads with shipping were ~$150 and they really were shipped from Germany to the US in two days. If you're playing on silent strokes and tired of fussing with your module to get the double triggering out, I'd highly recommend it.
I made my own mesh heads for two layers of black widow screen and one layer of black woven polyester fabric. They feel better than all the other mesh heads I have purchased and are not too loud
Living in germany, I DAB on those shipment prices :d
I am using drumtec real feels heads for practice and I switch to drum tec design to cheat my rebound for recording :)
Your drumming is very impressive!
Excellent Review Justin!
I bought the Pro Line and the Real Feel. I enjoyed playing both. I am using the Real Feel Meshead on my Drum Tec Pro Snare at the moment.
Enrique why does your comment say 20 hours ago when the video was uploaded like 2 minutes ago
@@theycallmethemememachine7973 I'm a supporter of 65 Drums via Patreon and was able to view it yesterday on Patreon.
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I use a Real feel on my Jobeky snare, which I love and standard Roland heads on the rest of my kit. On an acoustic kit you usually have the snare cranked up more than the toms, so on my e drums I think it gives a similar feel.
Definitely worth getting a real feel for your snare.
Plz do a video about the full description of the drum set that you have played in this video.
Tell us about that triggered low volume cymbal?
That's something [funny] I was hoping he was going to branch-off into that cymbal too, and play or either talk about it. I'm trying to move away from Roland rubber cymbals (don't like the way they feel on a side-swipe hits) they feel as they grab the stick when hitting; plus would like the real feel and low volume of a metal cymbal if not using the module to practice with. A lot the low-volume metal cymbals that I have researched have had a few cons to prevent me from pulling the trigger on purchasing a full (complete) set.
ive got a jobeky kit. and i gotta say i like it a lot. with a Drummit 3 module - im yet to learn how to use properly ( just yet !@)
but the cymbals are good. feel natural. trigger well. i think they are 3 way, edge, bow and bell. my ride tho the bell is hard to play. i think its the cymbals design. gotta get the stickl real sideways to get in there, but its possible. and riding on the metal ride is a little loudish, tho not really loud ! and the rubber edge is really good for dulling sounds.
but they play nicely. trigger well and feel a LOT LOT better than the thick unnatural rubber ones. i think these are the future. and the low volume holed versions, must be better than Jobeky's full metal versions in terms of sound !
Between the Real Feel and the Pro series, which do you think would work better w/ Zildjian L80 cymbals. From this video and the others you've said the Pros are closer to the volume level of the L80s but I'm guessing that's without reso heads on the bottom. What about if I am using normal reso heads as well as having snare wires on the snare. Will the Pros be louder than the L80s with resos? Will the Real Feels be closer in volume to L80s when combined with reso heads and snare wires?
is it true that the design series work better with side triggers (such as the Roland triggers) than the reel feel heads?
How does that Jobeky LowVolume electronic crash perform? Maybe if you ever play GoEdrum’s low volume cymbal it will be nice to compare it
Which is your absolute favorite (feel / rebound) out of the three Drum Tecs (Real Feel, Design, Pro)?
HI, I really feel like the top level of mesh heads are very close to acoustics Snare but are very far from acoustic tom heads and by far not close to bass drums ,toms\bass acoustics absorb the hit and are not bouncy as much even when are loosen , I guess that is why Roland put sponge behind the bass mesh head. do you agree ?
Hey Justin - question for the question show - What are your thoughts on how soon Roland might be planning to release a new multipad to replace either the Octapad or the SPD-SX now that Alesis has a serious competitor to the SPD-SX in their new Srike Multipad? And do you recommend buying either the Octapad or the SPD-SX at this point given how long they have been out and the likelihood that they will be replaced at some point, and also against the new Strike Multipad?
I have a real feel on my snare and I love it. I’ll be replacing my roland power ply tom heads with real feels for sure later on.
Are those promark firegrain sticks? And If they are, what do you think about them?
I guess it's another prime example of "to each it's own", good solid feel in a stick and appears they would last a long time even with a lot of rim-shots. I ended-up purchasing a pair of "Classic 7A" (wanted to go LIGHTER, on the e-drum set, compared to my usual 5A or 5B). Although as expected, they seemed thin to hold after playing them and they were small in length. Kept dropping them, being I'm now hitting a smaller surface of e-drums compared to the larger surface of acoustics (missing impact zone).
Ended-up going back to the local music store the next day and purchased a pair of "Vic Firth - Buddy Rich" sticks. They had that "lighter feel" I was looking for without sacrificing the solid feel and length, to accurately hit the smaller e-drum pads/cymbals. Although I have yet to noticed anything in my playing that resembles anything near Buddy Rich ;-)
Real feel great, they almost can't break
The cons with it arr fairly normal they get dusty because you hit it it will become darker in the middle and the logos can get warped in the process of making them
What is the best camera for recording electric drums??
Justin, Happy Thanksgiving! In your experience, what’s the best feeling mesh head I can get in the US?
Hey Justin. just purchased a Roland TD17KVX and was wondering with the one input left if I should add a 4'th cymbal or tom? which upgrade in your experience would enhance the kit more?
Chris Cole. What I did was build a drum splitter (they are cheap to make - just plugs and a 100k resistor) then split the aux between a crash cymbal and a low tom. You just set rim to cymbal and head to tom in the module. 👍
Quick question, and kinda hard to answer. Is the TD17-KVX worth the ~$1700, or should i save a little more and get a Strike Pro ? hElp Me
Yes and No ... I recently just purchased one (Td-17KVX); being new to this world was a learning curve that cost me some money. One great FREE investments is, watching a lot of the videos out there from people like Justin, you learn a lot.
If you're okay with the sounds of Roland, then "yes" by all means. I've spent a lot of money afterwards (other software, amps, and even another snare). Now granted you will not need to follow them steps, they were just preferences of my own desires. The TD17-KVX was hard to find a seller at the time to purchase from but for the money (cheap investment) they are well worth it, if you're okay with the sounds. One thing I would recommend if you were looking for some good "sounds" to download into your module, there's a company called "V-expression's". Which from my understanding/research they're people whom have their finger-print with Roland sound-builds. I purchased their TD-17 sound samples $50 then they had a rebate attached bring it to $38 mark. There's also some samples that "Drum-Tec" offers too, I have not purchased that yet. I just recently purchased Addictive Drummer 2 (black Friday week 1/2 off). Little frustrated with that software though.
If you were going to venture to another; I would mention 2Box (if you can find them - check Reverb web). They have some really good sounds in their modules. Although I have never tried them out yet, just heard their sounds on youtube. Of course you could just throw and extra grand -or- two into the mix and find a Drum-Tec drum set with a Pearl Mimic Pro attached. But for $1700 the TD17-KVX was well worth it IMHO. Justin has a lot of video's pertaining to both of them sets you are looking at .. Good Luck
please do a video on renting drums as there are none on youtube
You mean like monthly payments? You'll walk out paying way more than they were worth unless you make the one time payment. Other than that, I wouldn't recommend it. You can't be sure you'll always have the payment on time.
A lot also rely heavily on credit. Guitar Center and Sweetwater usually rely on this and are only partnered with agencies that base who is eligible or not off of that alone.
If you still want to do it, hope you have good credit so the monthly payment isn't as much. If you don't ha e credit, try a leasing agency, assuming one can work with them.
Zzounds and American Musical Supply offers no credit check payment plans... No interest and it doesn't cost any more than buying it retail.
Is that a jobeky low volume cymbal? 🤔
Yup
@@65Drums are you plannig to do a review of it?
look up Millenium Still low volume cymbals
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You should do a current setup video man it's all confusing about your kit
And also you did not use your roc and soc for this video
Funny how that muffled low volume cymbal sounded actually decent!
Thats because it's triggered
@@moritzp.2920 I'm not so sure bro. Except is he placed a trigger on it, which I didnt see. Justin?
It's a triggered cymbal
@@65Drums Thanks Justin. It was too good to be true ;)
your kit is so nice
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