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How To Prepare For A Royal Visit In Victorian Style | Royal Upstairs Downstairs | Absolute History

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2021
  • Presenters Rosemary Shrager and Tim Wonnacott visit Hatfield House in Hertfordshire to reveal the story of Queen Victoria's visit there in 1846. Victoria was 27 years old and had been on the throne for nine years.
    Renowned as a great political and social centre, Hatfield also had a very special connection to royalty: it had been the home of Elizabeth I. Tim reveals the story of a tree on the estate that links the two monarchs.
    Confirmation of Victoria's visit only reached the host just ten days before she arrived, and using the queen's own diary and other first-hand accounts, Tim reveals the panic behind the scenes when the royal couple decided to drop in at the last minute - including a nearly disastrous clash between the royal carriage and the gates.
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  • @trixiecox6433
    @trixiecox6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I came here for the history, stayed for that pie

    • @elisabethinca6906
      @elisabethinca6906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao

    • @trixiecox6433
      @trixiecox6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shelby Spider politely disagree, absolutely voting to try Meat Mountain mmm🤤

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hairy pie?

    • @jessicaaye3738
      @jessicaaye3738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's pie? 👀

    • @ashleelarsen5002
      @ashleelarsen5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaveSCameron I wish, I don't think Peter is in this one...

  • @professorsogol5824
    @professorsogol5824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    When you have 550 people for dinner one night, buying 709 bottles of wine for one week does not sound excessive. In the absence of any indication that the wine bottles were magnums or jeroboams, let us assume each bottle was about the size of a modern 750ml standard bottle. So 750 x 709/550 = 967ml/person. But the visit was for two nights so that would make 483ml of wine per person per night. In the UK today, a glass of wine is considered to be 175ml, so that works out to 2.76 glasses of wine per person per night. Currently the UK National Health Service recommends men and women should not drink more than 14 glasses of wine per week. Since this was a special occasion -- once in several lifetimes from the point of view of this Jacobean house -- it hards sounds like the Marquis was laying in stores for a bing-drinking Saturnalia.

    • @earthalydelights
      @earthalydelights 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Victorian wine glasses were far smaller than modern wine glasses. More the size of an aperitif glass today. But then again, most Victorian wines were fortified - sherries and ports -or very sweet wines like sauternes. All of which have high alcohol contents. Brandy and cognac were also de riguer at such formal events.
      The Victorians loved to drink - and not just the men either. It would only be much much later in the period when abstinence came to be considered a virtue for anyone and even then it was almost exclusively a middle class value. The aristocracy and the labouring classes held firmly to their taste for a dram.

    • @jjayjewel
      @jjayjewel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do believe that is just what they purchased.

    • @glorygloryholeallelujah
      @glorygloryholeallelujah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guarantee that was just ONE of the alcohol selections everyone imbibed that weekend. 🤣💗

    • @vloveless6367
      @vloveless6367 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s probably exactly how he figured how much wine to buy. Good for you 👍

  • @laramka2940
    @laramka2940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    That's wayyy too much meat and like 10 diff kinds of them omg. The indigestion of it all

    • @lonerose99
      @lonerose99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, an awful lot! And variety. Whew!

    • @bluesira
      @bluesira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No wonder they danced for 4 hours straight after dinner! Got to work off those meat sweats! 😂

    • @megancrager4397
      @megancrager4397 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Talk about meat sweats lol

    • @rrice1705
      @rrice1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, but worth it!

    • @ES11777
      @ES11777 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the ethical side of stuffing your face with murdered animals just for the sake of stuffing your face. They had lots of grains, vegetables and fruits in that era, they just chose to stuff themselves with meat since it was considered “food for the wealthy”. Smh.

  • @Oonagh72
    @Oonagh72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Growing up my family ate turtle soup. I even remember seeing a can of it on the shelf in our pantry. As an adult I got a turtle. My aunt came over and kept saying “oooh. I haven’t had turtle in a long time. 🤤”. I got to the point that I would hide my turtle when she came to visit.

    • @ES11777
      @ES11777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So sorry you had to experience this. It’s wrong on so many levels to look at someone’s pet and think of them as food… Your story sounds infuriating for me, especially as I’m vegetarian and I love tortoises and turtles. I hope they at least killed them humanely before cooking…

  • @sillyboy209
    @sillyboy209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've watched the Downton Abbey movie, and I have a pretty good idea of how stressful a royal visit can be. I also remember watching a documentary about kings beds on P.B.S. if I remember correctly, they had special beds made for a king or a queens visit, and those beds cost them alot of money for someone to sleep in for a possible 1 or 2 night stay. I also remember a rather expensive bed for a royal, and the royal did not even show up. But hey when you are royal. 🤷‍♀️

    • @glynnismajor
      @glynnismajor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your comment about the beds and no-show royal made me recall watching that documentary too. Apparently that is all I remember because I can't so much as recall the title! Smh. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @Vix2066
    @Vix2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Better times.
    That's the most beautiful pie I've ever seen in my life 😂

  • @kjs2077
    @kjs2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    How many of these pies would have been made for dinner?

  • @annfisher3316
    @annfisher3316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Those below the stairs surely suffered from exhaustion and panic tempers from those upstairs 😒

  • @Marlonxx_
    @Marlonxx_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "They've been made into *turtle soup* "
    Me: WHAT??!!

    • @ES11777
      @ES11777 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know. So sad.

  • @smazinnen95
    @smazinnen95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would love to try that pie!

  • @dejangotic
    @dejangotic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    my my...and I thought nothing can top that ninth circle of hell revealed during the triumphant slicing of Mrs Crocombe’s pigeon pie abomination!

    • @deannaharper7589
      @deannaharper7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abomination it is! My heart just exploded!

    • @glorygloryholeallelujah
      @glorygloryholeallelujah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d have to try it before I can label it an abomination. 🤔
      But it definitely looks intimidating. Lol

  • @annking8633
    @annking8633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Love this series even though I think Victoria was an overindulged spoiled brat.

    • @sharondavies7700
      @sharondavies7700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      They all are

    • @Vix2066
      @Vix2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      She was the QUEEN OF ENGLAND ffs of course she was spoiled

    • @annking8633
      @annking8633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Vix2066 the British Monarchy and the tax payers who fund them have a weird relationship. I take your money and spend it on myself, and you praise me for it. 🤯😳🥴

    • @danniel2226
      @danniel2226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@annking8633 yup lmao😭😭

    • @Vix2066
      @Vix2066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@annking8633 🤔 the American government and American people have a weird relationship. 'I'll take your freedoms, your guns, your rights AND your money and let my son spend it on c r å c k' - sleepy joe biden

  • @DianeC.
    @DianeC. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hello!!! I enjoyed joyed your video today!!

  • @0hMyLife
    @0hMyLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this series so much!!!! I live in the US and this show alone makes me wish I could get British channels here!!!! Lol

  • @riccardodececco4404
    @riccardodececco4404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    150 heads at a shooting - hah, that was much more fun than todays online gaming....

  • @lionheart830
    @lionheart830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it all! 💖💖💖

  • @glorygloryholeallelujah
    @glorygloryholeallelujah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know what? £70k really isn’t that absurd of a budget, to extravagantly feed 550 high profile guests (and non-extravagant servants/retinue) every meal/tea/snack/etc. for an entire weekend!🤷‍♀️

  • @sampuatisamuel9785
    @sampuatisamuel9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it xoxo

  • @harlowblackadder356
    @harlowblackadder356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah Im all about the pie. It would cost a fortune today as it would have back then.

  • @rrice1705
    @rrice1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Veal, horsemeat, chicken, pheasant, pigeon, and venison. In one pie. You don't see that much anymore.
    I wonder why no pork?

    • @Saskatchetooner
      @Saskatchetooner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Forcemeat not horsemeat

  • @rubyaskin3311
    @rubyaskin3311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that pie would make me sick for a week

  • @PhoShoTheatre
    @PhoShoTheatre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @9:24 the man knows his way around a pie 🥧 😉

  • @RoseUnseen
    @RoseUnseen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    tim : absolute British dialogue also tim , ITS A CHAINSAW MASSACRE LOL

  • @kaushiksheshnagraj7176
    @kaushiksheshnagraj7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @kaylamarie1796
    @kaylamarie1796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If anyone watched Elona Holmes, you'll notice this was the Tewksburys home!

  • @partlycloudy3519
    @partlycloudy3519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like that meat pie would be nothing but grease or meat juice in it

  • @michaeldougherty8344
    @michaeldougherty8344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All i can say is that i wish i was there!

  • @dba750
    @dba750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that huge ox of a woman didn't blink at her offspring being murdered slowly for the servants.

  • @OstblockLatina
    @OstblockLatina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17:17 - except you used sth just like that before in this very show in the episode about the asparagus pastry crust, only difference being you called it the same thing but in French and it was for one oblong piece of ornamental crust.
    Also very similar thing you used the the previous episode for gingerbreads.

  • @jimorr820
    @jimorr820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Turtle soup is not illegal in USA. Etna, Pa. has a restaurant the serves it daily.

    • @dr.johnson5189
      @dr.johnson5189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well this wasn’t intended for American audiences. We Brits are superior in a ways, love people of all colours, and have the best television

    • @joniangelsrreal6262
      @joniangelsrreal6262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@dr.johnson5189
      👁👁 sounding quite uppity aye…?

    • @dr.johnson5189
      @dr.johnson5189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joniangelsrreal6262 Right-ok

    • @micearenice8963
      @micearenice8963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dr.johnson5189 I don't know about all ways but I'll give you a lot. damn straight on television. Watched all detective series I can find on Netflix. Plus candy and fish and chips and meat pies.

    • @dr.johnson5189
      @dr.johnson5189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@micearenice8963 We also have superior sports, public transit, healthcare, and education

  • @vloveless6367
    @vloveless6367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mixing all different kinds of animal meat in a pie sounds disgusting

  • @harveypost7799
    @harveypost7799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Declare independence..

  • @brodyszone157
    @brodyszone157 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too bad they also got sick from the foods they ate. Like potatoes leaves

  • @jensmith7331
    @jensmith7331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That pie is like the Victorian turducken. It looks disgusting

  • @glynnismajor
    @glynnismajor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Despite my best effort- I cannot stay awake through the information as presented

    • @Valentina-Steinway
      @Valentina-Steinway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try another time lol 😂

    • @Kirsten_is_cursed10
      @Kirsten_is_cursed10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A better diet would help with your energy and your complexion…

    • @jamsaidemelo1367
      @jamsaidemelo1367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kirsten_is_cursed10 what was the purpose to this comment? Who are you to tell her to improve the way she looks 🤔

    • @Lucinda_Jackson
      @Lucinda_Jackson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤷🏼‍♀️ Your loss!

    • @glynnismajor
      @glynnismajor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamsaidemelo1367 your reply and decency is much appreciated.

  • @tonirad9577
    @tonirad9577 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine. It still goes on today . They ( the royals) still live that way .

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not in relation to their food at least - even when entertaining they aren't quite that extra these days.

  • @Holly_hamigakiko
    @Holly_hamigakiko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    God, what awful presenters. Such overreaction. It feels so inauthentic. I would have preferred more history and less of their excessiveness - you couldn't trust their reactions.

    • @demitraferles7970
      @demitraferles7970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree.

    • @sampuatisamuel9785
      @sampuatisamuel9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This programme is designed to a fun and lighthearted approach to the subject.