Why You Should Stop Worrying About Whether Your Drink Is Manly or Girly
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Whether it’s the shape of the glass, type of spirit used or mixer in a cocktail, some drinks are deemed manly and others are considered girly. We gathered America’s best bartenders to find out it customers still applied gender to drinks. Despite the cocktail boom, it’s still happening every night at bars across America, but things are starting to change. And these bartenders argue that the shape, color or ingredients of a drink don’t really matter-what matters is the drink tasting great. So stop worrying about whether a drink is manly or girly. If you like it, drink it.
Bartenders, in order of appearance
Bobby Heugel, Karen Grill, Sam Parrie, Charles Joly, Yael Vengroff, Erick Castro, Pam Wiznitzer, John Reusing, Spencer Elliott, Chris Hannah, Gillian White, Mariena Mercer and Sean Kenyon
Producer, Director & Writer: Jeremy Repanich
Directors of Photography: Jenna Morse and Lee Fritz
Coordinating Producer: Alyson Sheppard
Editor: Backlot Digital
Executive Producer: Brian Berkowitz
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As a guy, fruity/colorful drinks are my go to when I wanna black out cause you’re so busy wondering whether or not there’s even enough alcohol in your drink you don’t notice how plastered you are till you get up to pee. Lol
If you're asking for a martini in a rocks glass because a coupe glass is "girly" then ask yourself the question, who's more likely to wind up getting the girl & saving the world, you or James Bond.
LOL!
yeah james is more comfterble in his sexuality and masculinity to drink a martini how it should be drunk why not you :D
Coupe glasses I cant stand. I awlays feel like I'm gonna break them. And I have in the past.
Im like 69 yayyyyy
If you’re insecure about drinking a martini, you’re not a real man and the glassware you drink from isn’t gonna change that.
Coupe glasses I'm cool with, but Martini glasses are a no no. I just don't think that glass shape is safe. It feels like I'm going to spill it every time I pick it up.
that is a relevant reason. I know many customers who feel that way. It's a balance issue for them and that is totally respectable.
coupes are great (best way for a sour imho), I'm not a martini guy but I definitely prefer a nick and nora to a martini glass. Not only for utility reasons but also because the martini glass has become quite gauche. It's the cocktail glass of choice for every shit bartender out there.
I have never drank out of an American Martini glass without making a complete mess. I just ask for the martini in a coupe or nick and nora.
martini glasses just make me drink half of it immediately so i dont spill it. Also it works as a great "how drunk am I" meter.
That's why if I drink wine I like the stemless glass. I can care less what people think I just don't want to spill it
what is this drink in a champagne flute that'll floor a 350lb man and where can i get one
2 oz of everclear, 2oz of gin, 2oz of St Germaines and 1oz of turpentine
@@djdouglas1694 OK yes it that doesn't put you in a coma it will knock you out
death in the afternoon; champagne and 2oz of absinthe
My recipe: 1oz: 151 rum, .5oz wild turkey overproof, .5oz SouthernComfort, top with prosecco & alcoholic ginger beer.
It's called liquid corium.
I'm originally from New Orleans. A woman I went to college with was originally from Sweden, and was big into some kind of outdoor sports (this is literally the only thing I remember about her is this story) but she was talking about how she had these guys visit from Sweden who were all like macho outdoor sports types, and they wanted a real New Orleans drink, so she got them Hurricanes which are basically a bunch of rum in passionfruit syrup and lemon, and depending on where you get them somewhere between blood red and hot pink. So they see these bright pink drinks and . . . severely underestimate them them as "girly drinks." Suffice to say, one passed out before the cab got there, and another literally tried to make a pass an a mannequin.
Personally, I used to tend bar myself, and if you gave me my gin gimlet in a rocks glass, I'd be as confused as if you gave me my SoCo and Coke in a cocktail glass.
Thank you! I'm a bartender and every time people say "girly" or "manly". I tell them that putting gender on drinks hurts both men and women. Ladies, enjoy a good Lafroig, gents enjoy a good Cosmo.
One time here in NYC I ordered a white Russian and when the bartender served it to me he said " here's your bitch drink" but when I caught him.outside on his smoke break, he found out real quick I'm not a bitch.
And yeah, I'm a NYC bartender too.
I don't care what th drink is made of or what it looks like, I don't drink out of martini glasses. They're just to big, flimsy and feel kinda sharp. I always try and get it changed into a regular coupe glass
I hate when guys act like that about their drinks. I always correct them and let them know. It bothers me sooo much. Your toxic masculinity is so fragile you can't handle this drink. That's really what's going on.
Let people be who they want. Who are you to tell them how they should order a drink.
@@kylekarcher Its not about telling them how to order its about informing them how anachronistic their ideas are and the stigma they're perpetuating. So I totally agree with this video.
@@JacobSolbux
Again let people be who the want not what you want them to be.
@@JacobSolbux Dude, just shut up. Leave your weirdo politics out of the bar.
As long as it’s got booze in it I genuinely don’t care.
I've seen tons of guys get knocked right onto the floor after they've jokingly ordered a Cosmo. They think it's an exclusively women's drink but surprise(!) its almost all vodka, but cuz it's pink it's "girly!"
I generally use Cointreau when I make a cosmo so when someone wants something strong I always suggest a cosmo
I thought someone smacked the shit out of him
@@charrington543 Same at the place I work
That's a great way to get a 45 to the face. Don't assault people, especially over something as dumb as "well they ordered a cosmo". Free country. It's not your business what they ordered.
Not a bartender, but a server and one time a dude ordered a "cranberry kamikaze" because he didn't want to say "cosmo" and like... just relax dude.
wow! that's some insecurity right there.
I love being served a cocktail in a coupe. It looks classy as fuck
I love a tequila sunrise... but sometimes I wish it didn't look like a tequila sunrise.
I do feel a little self conscious about my alcoholic drink preferences, any time I order a cocktail I feel a little bad like it was wrong for me to order that. I don't even know where I get it from, no man has ever chastised me for drinking one, no woman has ever sneered at me as I drank it. It's strange really, the source of the anxiety is probably rooted somewhere deep the fuck down.
i really don't know why americans love mixing drinks so much. here in Europe drinking beer, wine, and spirits in a restaurant/club/outside or on a public event is more than enough for us
Nothing to say for the "girly" "manly" drink part,a good drink is a good drink no matter what you serve it into, but I sometimes ask for a change of glass simply because I find them annoying to hold onto.
I am the woman who's whisky is almost always given to my husband.
I'm Scottish and came to cocktails from neat single malts, he's English and came to cocktails from alcoholic cider. What we like in cocktails reflects those backgrounds - I like strong spirits, he likes sweeter, fruitier drinks. Neither of us care about the stereotypes of the drinks so please try and remember who ordered what. Some people get it right but you can usually see the concentration, and I really appreciate it when there's no hesitation.
Also stop trying to put water and ice in my single malt! If I ordered a dram I want it neat, water on the side if you must, (so I can control the change of flavour adding water brings). If I wanted ice I would have ordered it on the rocks.
Got it. I will remember this the next time you order a dram.
You don’t drink as much whisky as me
@@RossP17 who cares
I agree a martini is best enjoyed in its respective glass, but quite often I'll order a bottled beer in a bar over a draft beer that I actually want to drink more cause I don't feel like walking through crowds of people with a big sloppy 16oz pint glass. And the effect of the stemmed glass with wide top would just make it even worse.
Whenever I had the coupe problem, I'd always say "erm...doesn't James Bond drink out of this glass?" I HATE gender in drinks so much!
I like a pretty standard gin martini. I also like it in a rocks/tumbler. It's not really an aesthetic thing. I just think martini glasses are awkward to on the table and to drink out of. Easy to spill, too. Does glassware really change the taste/enjoyment of a martini? Interested to hear a compelling argument of why it might be disrespectful to a bartender's talents to order in a tumbler.
When I opened my bar, I chose to not carry any stemmed glassware (except whine glasses) because if I find them difficult to carry on a tray, I cannot expect my staff or my guests to have the same anxiety. We do not have stemmed coupes. We do have stemless martini glasses and I've never had any issues at my bar. I don't think it's disrespectful to ask for different glassware, but there are people who are served a martini in a coupe and ask for the glassware to be changes because of aesthetics.
I think it also depends on the venue. If you are enjoying a cocktail in a bar that has table side service, or is seated only, then it's easier to drink the martini in a stemmed glass because you don't have the fear of being knocked into or bumped. Standing in a bar with a drink is a real issue sometimes.
But as this video says, I have had a good amount of guests ask me for different glassware because they don't want their drink to seem "girly" or "manly" which is an insane notion to me. A badass martini glass makes me think of Mad Men and I think it's sexy as hell. To each their own.
The reason specific glassware exists is because the drink will perform better in those specific glasses.
Take a Martini, it’s served in a Martini glass for 2 main reasons.
1.) A martini, (depending on how you order it) will most likely be all booze. No sugar, no juices, no water, all booze. So putting it in a Martini glass forces you to move slowly and sip on it because you don’t want to spill it, but that act also prevents you from slamming it down like a shot
2.) A martini should be served extremely cold. And taste better extremely cold. If you ask for it in a rocks glass, all your going to do is heat that cocktail up super fast from the heat of your hand. Making it taste bad because it’s warm. The Martini Glass, when held correctly, keeps your hand away from the drink, keeping it cold for longer.
I never got the whole girly/manly drink stuff. There's a cocktail bar near me that i absolutely love (so much choice, really good cocktails, and i've got a discount card due to uni societies!), so I'm usually the one later in the night in my friend group who's pestering to go there for at least one drink, yet I'm also the one who's 6'1, broad shouldered with long hair and a scraggly beard, who also loves a good pint or 6. Drink whatever the fuck you want, a manly/girly drink is whatever you're drinking at that moment.
I remember being at a bar and I saw a big biker dude and a 6’ 5” bodybuilder coming in together and they went to the bar and I assumed they would get whiskey or rum on the rocks. Oh no. The biker guy got a strawberry margarita and the bodybuilder dude got a fuzzy navel and also got a glass of wine.
It really doesn’t matter if a drink is too girly or manly. It’s alcohol. It goes in the same and intoxicates you the same. Some people just have preferences, they want a sweet drink or a bitter drink. It’s their choice and their money.
three videos ago, "What your Drink Order Says About You!". This episode, "Don't Worry About What Your Drink Says About You!". come on guys
By any chance, did you happen to watch the first video?
Yeah... in the "what your drink order says about you", they basically say that it's how you order, not so much what you order
sgtdrillhole p
If you stayed until the end of the first video you mentioned, you’d know they end it with saying “who cares? It doesn’t actually matter”.
guys do this ALL THE TIME! if you order a drink with champagne and grapefruit juice, it's going to come out pink and in a flute.
For me, if I'm gonna get a drink, I need to enjoy it, because otherwise, why waste my money on something that tastes like dog shit?
At some point, you stop having taste, and substitute other people's. It's the same with Hipster drinks. I don't like scotch. I'm not going to pretend to like, and enjoy Scotch, because "It requires a more refined taste." Get me a Piña colada. In January, I don't care, I like Pinapple, and Coconut, it's good! I drink black dark roast coffee, dry red wines, and Piña Coladas. No, I don;t like getting caught in the rain, and Scotch is fucking nasty. You want to go outside? I'll put on a tutu, kick your ass in a pink tutu, come back in, and enjoy my fucking fru fru drink, man.
I have literally gotten in fights over this. Look, we're all here to have a good time, and you're being an asshole. Fuck off. Is the glass clean? Is it large enough to contain the drink? Then it's the right glass.
My sister and her husband when they were still dating in college went to a local bar that sold something called a pissed off Japanese minnow farmer it’s bright pink and in a hurricane glass and my sister got a beer. The waiter/bartender used to give my sister the bright pink frilly drink and my brother in law the beer
I usually start out with an Old Fashioned and then I start to experiment. Nutella Sour tastes amazing, will get you drunk really fast and it looks gender neutral. Beige.
This happens all the time at my place 🤣🙃 they even complain about the type of straw ☺️
and you f'ing better have my crazy straw on hand!
Oh the fucking straw. Don't even get me started. I literally confronted my manager about it so we could replace colored straws with plane black ones.
is campari considered pink? thought it was more closer to red
it is... only pink when it's been sitting in a glass with ice for a while getting diluted.
Yeah, Campari is definitely red. Maybe it thins out to pink in a diluted cocktail, but I really can't think of any Campari cocktails that aren't also using whiskey or some other dark spirit. The pink comment makes no sense to me.
Cognac Manhattan in coupe/martini glass! Preferably Hennessy VS or VSOP please.
Real men drink whatever the fuck they want!!!
Damn right! If I want a fucking cosmo, I want a fucking cosmo! If anyone wants to come and give me flak I’m all goddamn ears
Only cup that bothers me is the copper Moscow mule cup, like its cool and different and I love the drink itself it just seems so extra in most situations, a regular glass will do just fine.
Exclusively drinking old fashions doesn't make you more of a man
Let's be real though, it kinda does.
Rocks glasses are just more comfortable to hold
My sister once ordered a very dark IPA while her boyfriend got this jolly-rancher tasting martini. The server put the beer in front of her boyfriend and the martini in front of her and gave a judgmental look towards the boyfriend as they switched drinks.
I don't know about judgemental looks, but giving the "manly" drink to the man and the "girly drink to the female is logical. Not because drinks are gendered, and not because you can't drink what you want. But because those drinks are considered manly or girly because mostly male or female customers order them.
I honestly hate those curvy/hourglass shaped craft beer glasses. I love the feel of a pint glass when I'm drinking a beer. The shape, the weight, everything about it makes it significantly more comfortable to drink out of. Whenever I get a beer served to me in a craft beer glass I always ask for a pint glass instead and feel bad, like I'm coming across as insecure or something but really it's just preference.
LOL!!! My youngest son became of age to drink so we went out and he was drinking Mike's Hard of all flavors. I harangued him about girly drinks for two hours. However, as we were ending the night, I told him to look at the alcohol content of his Mike's and my Coors Light...and then said, "don't ever let your buddies call you out on your girly drinks, you out drank your father tonight, and I have been practicing for decades". He walked out in good condition, and did so with confidence that was well deserved. I drank lavender martini's on the cruise ship at least 3 times a day for a week, and I drank them like a boss!!! Gender schmender. Drink what you want and enjoy it!
Prefer my Manhattan in a coupe, easier to drink. Strawberry lemonade ❤️
Manhattans are my drink of choice. Boozy, rich, and slightly sweet. Delicious.
Drink whatever the fuck you want but know what you're drinking
I use to order Tequila Rose and then add tequila to it as a double shot. And just because it was pink most men couldn't drink more than a couple and I would slam a double with every beer I ordered all night long.
My go to a blue long island , no lemon wedge because i always end up sucking the seed up through my straw ...
Tight T-shirt must go along with guys who still ask for manly drinks
I've had the opposite experience, where when ordering a gin and tonic the female bartender started laughing and said, "Seriously?" That's a fun story.
Weird gin and tonics are one of the most ordered drinks from both male and female
If it tastes good, it tastes good.
If you're going to destroy your liver, why drink something nasty and bitter you dont even like?
Though, I do enjoy a good Old Fashioned, it needs the right balance and that's very hard to achieve. I like to judge bartenders on that alone.
Cause i need to have that feeling of Dread and not like a CareBear or else im not drinking
I just get pissed off when it's not served in the standard glass for that specific drink.
Watching this made me wanna order a scotch whisky in a martini glass just for lulz and see what reaction I would get from the bartender.
i think the "Girly" drinks are better than beer so i usually go for them
If it tastes good drink it. I like a Cosmo occasionally
Martini in a rocks glass?
but what about James Bond?
Remember martinis with a garnish if gay but without garnish if straight
Real men drink pink drinks
There's no need to analyze it this deeply on either end, I think the whole thing is funny
A man who walks into a cocktail lounge on a late-July evening at 8pm with a girl in a short skirt, who looks way out of his league, and he orders a French 75, a Martinez, and a Corpse Reviver #2 w/ an extra maraschino cherry for *their* girlfriend who is on her way, plus 3 large ice-waters... that's the type of man you may want to look into becoming.
My favorite cocktail is Cosmo or a Manhattan
I talk about cosmos and old boomers always say, "oh, pansy drinks. Get a real drink."
Dude, my Cosmo has more alcohol per volume than your piss water domestic beer
once sat at a beach bar in my gf's cardigan(because it was cold) with a girly drink(pink forrest or smth), when the waitress wanted to give the drink to her i started questioning my decisions, but then again if you're there with the most attractive woman you've already won, so i thought fuck it.
Any bartenders or regulars here? A few months passed 21 and going to the bar, first time, this weekend. Are bartenders cool with, "surprise me?" Rum and coke is as far as my knowledge goes but i want to try some real cocktails. To me they make money, and enjoy, making a good drink. I just dont wanna come off as some douche at the counter.
the gender cocktail argument is how people throw up
Pixie sticks changed my mind about froo froo drinks and drinkware.
I like tiki drinks, my wife drinks IPAs. 9/10 times the server will set the IPA in front of me.
Martinis with a garnish if gay but without garnish if straight
I learned more about drinks from the video and comments section 😂 Funny how this is a thing. So what I learned and got to understand. It's more of what's in the drink than the look. Example: Cosmo big no no has lots of alcohol. Looks pretty with the color. I think Gin and Tonic is strong or not strong in alcohol. I might be wrong so I put both😅
i like em but the "girly" drinks have a lot of suger so more hang over....
Correct me if I'm wrong but are there some instances where personal preference may change the glass you use?
Maybe it's a faster drink that you plan on just sipping, or it's a drink that you ordered neat and thus want a rounder thicker glass to keep it cold longer?
those are substantial reasons but those reasons are the exception and I think they we're referring to the norm which is the masculinity/femininity.
Sir I want to make this video in Hindi dubbed
This is what happens when you gentrify drinking. I'll take homemade moonshine or mead any day over what they sell these days.
Hey you can't look like a tuff cool guy with a umbrella stick in out of you glass
"It's the man who makes the drink, not the drink who makes the man" - WHAT DOES IT EVEN MEAN? :D
I guess he's trying to say in Soviet Russia, the cocktail drinks YOU!!!
I have a feeling this might be an american thing? In england, most cocktail bars I go to I really don't see people giving a shit about the glass, and being a guy, I don't give a shit either, Fave drink is an aviation which should be served in a coupe, don't see anyone complaining about the coupe.
Nooo for real this shit is crazy. I'm a barista I make coffee and frappochinos and this guy ordered a farpp. While he girl ordered a black ice coffee. And I love doing frapp art making the toppings look pretty. And he refused the whipped cream and toppings cause the frapp was already too girly. I look at him like it's a drink and you taking off the best part like man up dude
Drink what you want, but in an era of eroding masculinity, i'll stick with and enjoy my shot of Jim and a high life chaser.
I dont like sports btw....SO THERE !!!
As long as it’s got booze in it and it tastes good idgaf
@1:50 "who cares doesnt make you any less of a 'Man'" see that, even that slight discontent right there , was the reason why you should be conscious of your drink, youre measured with or without your knowledge.
Fucking A ón the last comment. A lad should enjoy a Cosmo and a Lass should enjoy a Pilsner guilt free.
Karen Grill looks like Lazlow from GTA 5
I drink anything. Dont give a fuck, in east europe we drink anything with achohol.
heh, idgaf, seriously, I will sit in a restaurant or a bar, doesnt matter, and order a tall, multi colored, donned with fruit and umbrellas drink any day of the week. Ill also glady order an old scotch, neat, in a tumbler. fuck it. Drinks are drinks. And honestly.. "girly" drinks.. if you must call it that, taste fucking amazing.
the best is always someone making fun of a guy drinking something a martini, or something in a martini glass. Like, excuse me, douche.. James Bond drinks martinis, is he man enough for you?
A dude was harassing the bar back (she was visibly grimacing and shying away) and when I asked him what's up, he got pissed and tried to pick a fight with me by pointing out my pink cocktail.
I owned it and said, "hm? but it's a nice drink. why not?"
There was a terse pause and he awkwardly tried to high-five me on it.
i wonder how long it took you to make this up
And then everyone clapped.
r/thathappened
I'm female. I prefer the Grandpa drinks.
this just proves Bars are to pick up women and the more eye-Appealing drinks are to girls the more they will buy .
I'm totally behind the message of this video, but it also seems to me that this prejudice is pretty much restricted to us White folk. One of my former locals - a fantastic den of iniquity that, sadly, no longer exists - had a three-hundred-pound Yardie for a bouncer. He routinely ordered drinks that were basically a splash of rum with a whole bunch of fruit juices, and nobody ever dared to question the gender of the liquid or the man.
Thats a pretty ridiculous way of thinking, you should get a drink that you find delicious and you love..
If my mate orders a sex on the beach i will bully that poor soul. It doesn’t bother me it’s all just banter but I think a lot of guys are more insecure than they should be, but at the same time, I think it’s a good thing because masculinity is very important to a man, but it shouldn’t be false masculinity, like if someone who hates whiskey orders a whiskey just to look manly.
Also, Campari isn’t pink what is she talking about
Its always funny when i go out to drink with my mom she will order something like a whiskey sour and ill order a pornstar. I hounestly dont mind the looks i get because i know i like it and im here for a good time
People who care about the supposed gender of a drink are cowards
Where my liberal arts majors at??
Unemployed
in a fast food chain near you
Did you just assume my cocktail??🤔
In the end...it will always be noticed!
If glassware shouldn't be gender specific then why not serve 95% of drinks in a Collins glass? Not in the context of "don't worry about what glass it's in". The "wouldn't make it easier on the barkeep?" context.
So this video doesn't really tell me exactly why I should stop worrying, it simply says a bunch of bartenders don't worry. Why am I to agree with these people?
Ill have a glass of red wine
Red wine 😃?
Yes.
Its not about bekng a man, its about not being gay
im not worried if people would laugh at me if i get some "girly" one,but i just simply dont like the look of those glasses
Go ahead and judge my toxic masculinity, but I'm gonna keep drinking budweiser and johnny walker black neat.
If it’s fuckin good then who cares
My oder is boring and genderless
Screwdriver
Good thing there's no wars or human atrocities for us to worry about...
Nice fallacy of relative privation there m8
This isnt a problem is scotland drink is drink
Kissed By The Anaconda im from glasgow and if i walked into a pub and ordered anything classed as a girls drink id probably need to drink it through an iv
If the drink is free though thats an exception, frugality trumps masculinity
for example; long islands. they have a lot of alcahole but they are super girly at the same time
You are not a man if you are not confident with the things you do ...