I came out in 1979 as a teen lesbian and it was NOT accepted by most people then. Many teammates were homophobic and some were particularly mean. I was the only one in my high school that I knew of at the time. I was only 15. This was before Martina came out (1981) and before Billie Jean King confessed to having an affair with a woman (also 1981). I wish things could have been as easy as they are now because it was extremely difficult for me. I think of myself as someone who paved the way for for others to come out now, even though I am not famous by any means. I just wish sometimes that I had grown up in this era and not the one in which I did.
Karen, I'm sorry to hear that... Yeah, this era is better, because people started talking more about sexuality after the 90 tees and it wasn't a taboo anymore that there are different sexual orientations, and for people being more accepting. But this hasn't changed in a lot of parts of the world... And still in America, people are still quite conservative and close minded with this issues and avoid them or talk about them in the wrong way. And Trump isn't helping... To be in a team and be not accepted by your teamates and feel judged feels like shit. I'm from the 1999 and I've also experience it. Probably not to the extreme that you did, but I got the idea.. I don't like to define myself, but I have felt attracted to people no matter the sex, so if someone asks me I usually say I'm bisexual. I was also around 15 or even younger when I realized that I could also find girls attractive, and I've never hidden my sexuality (but I also don't feel the need to express it to everyone). It became weird for me being in the changing rooms, feeling judged by some of my teamates and also the audience, parents... And also boys of other teams... So I wasn't prepared to face it and left soccer/football in europe (I'm from spain). Thank you for sharing your experience, i connected with it a lot.
@Thomas McGill nop, but that people think like this, sadly yeah... Probably people like you, who are so simple minded to call someone "loser" for explaining their past experiences and having a hard time
Cool story Karen but sounds like BS, now a days its just trendy to say you're gay pretty sad you have to jump on the bandwagon just to get attention. The LGBTQMNOP community don't like it.
Well said my 5 year old niece doesn’t think it’s weird. When my daughter was 6 we had this conversation. It means when a woman loves a woman or a man loves a man. Love is a beautiful thing she told me that always stayed with her
Karen, thanks for coming out when you did. You held space and made it better for lesbians like Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird to be as free as they are now. Don't underestimate the work you and many ordinary women did to make more space for women and our love for other women. I urge you to continue, to keep making and affirming your woman loving space. There are many of us now. Yes! Yes!
The whole gender stereotype comes into play here. Men provide financially, men are strong etc, women nurture blah blah. Sport is typically masculine, ballet, feminine. And I think it is these stereotypes why women in sport are assumed gay and men who dance ballet are assumed gay, and why it is harder for men in sport to come out. We assume a man who does drag is gay but in actuality may be just a job for him. I maybe wrong in saying this but I think that male athletes think that coming out it would mean in their minds that they wont be respected as men.
That’s a great point, a valid point. It seems easier or more comfortable, or more of an easier transition, for pro-female athletes to come out and develop their careers. This makes me realize the importance of leaders who take the initiative. All the best pro-male athletes I can think of are straight. I’m curious to see the first major pro-make athlete who comes out and is massively successful. I would be curious to see that one playing out. By the way, please let me know if I’m wrong. There might be a male pro-athlete out there I’m completely ignorant about, who is gay and massively successful.
Tammy T for there Olympic gold medals. As in medals plural they both have several. Or to even making it to the olympics in general. Or to Megan’s 2nd World Cup win. Does that qualify as something for you to congratulate???
I came out 80s hard times then me and m8s used get beaten up so glad times have changed stay strong stay safe takecare everyone sending luck love from headway Nottingham UK xxx
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "Coming out", why. Just like who you like. No one cares what you like to do in your sex life. That should stay private. If you feel you must "come out" you have issues. Just be who you are with no announcements.
Just another softball interview by Rapinoe....just wish, just once, she would grant an interview in which her viewpoints might be questioned....if she was as "brave" and "empowering" as she claims herself to be, she would have the courage to face her doubters.
Does she EVER let anyone else speak? She's long winded, cliche, and boring as hell. These are not "remarkable women". They have a narrow, selfish agenda.
@Tammy T It means men acting like assholes. Men hating on women and abusing them in any number of ways. And females like you making excuses for their shitty behavior.
@Tammy T Every phrase is made up. Toxic is a descriptor of a certain kind of masculinity otherwise it wouldn't be a phrase it would just be masculinity.
@@ktcool4660 Steve is a pervert who likes to harass lgbt people and spam us with talks about genitals. Yet these religious nutjobs all condone him while attacking us. Isn't it telling.
I came out in 1979 as a teen lesbian and it was NOT accepted by most people then. Many teammates were homophobic and some were particularly mean. I was the only one in my high school that I knew of at the time. I was only 15. This was before Martina came out (1981) and before Billie Jean King confessed to having an affair with a woman (also 1981). I wish things could have been as easy as they are now because it was extremely difficult for me. I think of myself as someone who paved the way for for others to come out now, even though I am not famous by any means. I just wish sometimes that I had grown up in this era and not the one in which I did.
Karen, I'm sorry to hear that... Yeah, this era is better, because people started talking more about sexuality after the 90 tees and it wasn't a taboo anymore that there are different sexual orientations, and for people being more accepting. But this hasn't changed in a lot of parts of the world... And still in America, people are still quite conservative and close minded with this issues and avoid them or talk about them in the wrong way. And Trump isn't helping...
To be in a team and be not accepted by your teamates and feel judged feels like shit. I'm from the 1999 and I've also experience it. Probably not to the extreme that you did, but I got the idea.. I don't like to define myself, but I have felt attracted to people no matter the sex, so if someone asks me I usually say I'm bisexual. I was also around 15 or even younger when I realized that I could also find girls attractive, and I've never hidden my sexuality (but I also don't feel the need to express it to everyone). It became weird for me being in the changing rooms, feeling judged by some of my teamates and also the audience, parents... And also boys of other teams... So I wasn't prepared to face it and left soccer/football in europe (I'm from spain).
Thank you for sharing your experience, i connected with it a lot.
@Thomas McGill nop, but that people think like this, sadly yeah... Probably people like you, who are so simple minded to call someone "loser" for explaining their past experiences and having a hard time
Karen Wallace : You were just in the wrong Place ! NYC and other cities have their own communities ! You would have been fine !
Cool story Karen but sounds like BS, now a days its just trendy to say you're gay pretty sad you have to jump on the bandwagon just to get attention. The LGBTQMNOP community don't like it.
Well said my 5 year old niece doesn’t think it’s weird. When my daughter was 6 we had this conversation. It means when a woman loves a woman or a man loves a man. Love is a beautiful thing she told me that always stayed with her
If I were your kid I's be running out of the house Screaming !
Thomas McGill why ? Love is a beautiful thing
Karen, thanks for coming out when you did. You held space and made it better for lesbians like Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird to be as free as they are now. Don't underestimate the work you and many ordinary women did to make more space for women and our love for other women. I urge you to continue, to keep making and affirming your woman loving space. There are many of us now. Yes! Yes!
I am IN LOVE with Sue's arms in this one. So damn good
Aww!! The way they look at each other
@Thomas McGill Indeed you are!!!
Thomas McGill I think you have to work on your burn, honey.
Who wears the Strap on !
The whole gender stereotype comes into play here. Men provide financially, men are strong etc, women nurture blah blah. Sport is typically masculine, ballet, feminine. And I think it is these stereotypes why women in sport are assumed gay and men who dance ballet are assumed gay, and why it is harder for men in sport to come out. We assume a man who does drag is gay but in actuality may be just a job for him. I maybe wrong in saying this but I think that male athletes think that coming out it would mean in their minds that they wont be respected as men.
Balony
@Tammy T " They're way overrepresented in movies and TV." Extreme low IQ comment!
Good point! They look very cute together
Let's see them scissoring !
Who's the guy with the blonde hair?
why isn't this captioned/subtitled?
Beautiful ladies stay strong stay safe proud of you both keep going doing amazing things sending luck love from UK takecare xxx
She likes Nirvana and dislikes Trump. She must be ok. :)
Wow your stupid
i like the hair of sue when it is down.
That’s a great point, a valid point. It seems easier or more comfortable, or more of an easier transition, for pro-female athletes to come out and develop their careers. This makes me realize the importance of leaders who take the initiative.
All the best pro-male athletes I can think of are straight. I’m curious to see the first major pro-make athlete who comes out and is massively successful. I would be curious to see that one playing out.
By the way, please let me know if I’m wrong. There might be a male pro-athlete out there I’m completely ignorant about, who is gay and massively successful.
Bravo. Girls. Congratulations.
Tammy T for there Olympic gold medals. As in medals plural they both have several. Or to even making it to the olympics in general. Or to Megan’s 2nd World Cup win. Does that qualify as something for you to congratulate???
I came out 80s hard times then me and m8s used get beaten up so glad times have changed stay strong stay safe takecare everyone sending luck love from headway Nottingham UK xxx
when a pro athelete comes out, they get a whole news cclip, amazing!
being gay is like the new fat, you think your special but your just fat/gay!
Always be true to yourselves xx
It is fun and inspiring to see Nigel Owens an openly gay referee in rugby interact with the players.....he's one of the best referees out there
Was she alive when Nirvana came out? In Seattle wearing that shirt?
Lmao how old do you think she is, 5?
@@bonitaapplebum0088 she acts about 2!
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "Coming out", why. Just like who you like. No one cares what you like to do in your sex life. That should stay private. If you feel you must "come out" you have issues. Just be who you are with no announcements.
Yeah, it's bizarre that people are still doing these coming out announcements in the modern era.
Sue Bird,I love you dearly.
I love Billy Jean King,and the mighty Navritolova
You are true,you are free!
That’s why I love you.
:)
Oh, it WAS that Chihuly thing, it's really impressive in person; but then you don't have two Gods-of-sport present.
Are you drunk????
We need to talk about mental health.......
Just another softball interview by Rapinoe....just wish, just once, she would grant an interview in which her viewpoints might be questioned....if she was as "brave" and "empowering" as she claims herself to be, she would have the courage to face her doubters.
It's just weird how she is soo in love with herself!!
Does she EVER let anyone else speak? She's long winded, cliche, and boring as hell. These are not "remarkable women". They have a narrow, selfish agenda.
so.. do female athletes walk around nakey in the locker room?
Nope, we wear a burka...even in the shower.
@Steven Meakin toxic masculinity is everywhere #creep
Bet Mr. A. Chaps has never seen a naked woman
@Tammy T It means men acting like assholes. Men hating on women and abusing them in any number of ways. And females like you making excuses for their shitty behavior.
@Tammy T Every phrase is made up. Toxic is a descriptor of a certain kind of masculinity otherwise it wouldn't be a phrase it would just be masculinity.
Them dey looking good physically but in spirituality they're empty they need God ,why Jesus came ?....my prayers is that God should deliver them
They Need a PENIS !
@@stevesanzari7294 stop projecting!
Jesus was gay. He had 12 boyfriends. Kissed them in public. Was into feet. Washed guys feet.
@@ktcool4660 Steve is a pervert who likes to harass lgbt people and spam us with talks about genitals. Yet these religious nutjobs all condone him while attacking us. Isn't it telling.
I wonder who wears the strap on megan or sue
babu510 Shut the fuck up 🙄
let them borrow yours
I cant cause you still got it bro
Your bias is showing. Show some respect
Joe koulo
They make me sick
@Gidget Trevathon Ooooo, OUCH