There's something to be said about being able to stay inside, warm, during the winter and watch TV while being able to monitor the rig in the backyard.
Absolutely the best way. I hear often people discussing various antenna upgrades. The best upgrade is the router. A powerful router allows station mode and benefits the home network also.
Agreed. I think it's due to the limitations of it being a Raspberry Pi, and the low power it has transmitting out the signal. Sure, the antenna on the Plus is a great step forward, but using an external repeater that is built to put out stronger signal is always better.
@@AstroEscape ,Sounds Like The Same Issues People Were Having With The Celestron Wifi Adapter,Ive Never Had Issues With The Sky Fi3,Knowing This Is A Mini PC At The Same Time
Hi Daylon, I have a variation of your setup for you to try that might be faster. I too have the ethernet plugged into the ASIAIR but the Station Mode in the ASIAIR is totally turned OFF. You just have to go into the ASIAIR settings ahead of time by connecting directly to the ASIAIR's wifi signal and then look for the IP address that populates right below Wifi settings. It says 'Wired Ethernet'. Then reconnect your computer or tablet to your home wifi (or the TPlink wifi directly) and connect the ASIAIR using the IP address you just saw. It has been super fast and I can also use the 5G network no problem. Later when you start the ASIAIR app again it seems to connect automatically without even asking for the IP address. Try it and see if you notice any difference in speed!
The TPLink is indeed picking up my home wifi, that is intentional. I set it up so I can use that TP link at home and at other locations with the ASI AIR, and the tablet is always on the same Wifi network. It gets rid of complications, at least for me. I really only shoot in my backyard during colder months, otherwise I go to an observatory or a dark sky spot. Having everything line up gets rid of problems. The problem is for PC users seeing wifi networks without a wifi card. In some tests, I set my TPlink to be the way my computer connected back to the router, and put the AIR in station mode. I could monitor the wifi traffic that way using a tool called Wireshark. I saw the AIR with some hiccups, and my PC could see it. With my home setup, the walls interrupted signal between the AIR and the router, but that's a fault of old housing, not the devices themselves. There are many more variables in the wifi that I am planning on for a video that is planned for mid December, I hope I can explain those when I release it :)
Yet another video that skips straight past my problem. I’m sure it’s a great video and informative but you went beyond where I’m hung up at 1:20. Becoming more and more convinced that the universe is telling me NOT to look up its dress.
@@AstroEscape thank you so much for replying. I was throwing a tantrum. I calmed down and kept plugging away. Basically I was having a lot of initial connection issues but I addressed some Wi-Fi settings and have gotten past that. Thanks to yourself and several others I seem to have gotten past most all my issues. Once a shutter release cable shows up then I can get past the 30s exp limit. FYI for dslr users, when the manual shows an R with a line through it next to your dslr that means you need a cable, because a symbol with a line through it always mean you need that thing… sheesh. Just one example. (And yes, I now know that below the compatibility chart it shows what that symbol means but if I told you that a red sign that says stop means to go, you would still hesitate) Aaaaaaanywho… not to say that I won’t be looking for help again but I think I’ve gotten over the teething problems. Thank you again for the information and insight. I think I’ll do a post on cloudy nights with all the issues I ran into and how I fixed them. Cheers and clear skies.
Dankeschön. Früher konnte ich Deutsch, aber ich habe es vergessen und muss Google Translate verwenden. Das Dankeschön wurde allerdings nicht übersetzt. Ich bin froh, dass es geholfen hat.
Thank you for this, just tried my setup, the Asiair plus with a Redcat, and its working from bottom of the garden (55ft) away, not used a repeater as works ok without :)
I just got my ASIAIR Plus. I have it setup by following this video to my home wifi. Was wondering if I'll need one of these for my AAP? I'll be about 40-50 feet away from my setup. I haven't used it yet as the weather here is terrible. Thanks for an excellent video. Appreciate it.
For the pro it is recommended. The wifi on the Pro is worse than the Plus. If you are only imaging at home, you could go with a standard Wifi router and plug both into it so they are both on the same wifi network.
I Would Like To Be Able To Have This Before Next Winter,But Also Hope I Dont Have The Cloud Cover Ive Had This Winter🤨Congratulations On 3000,Glad I Could Be 1,Clear Skies❤️🙏🏻🌏✨🔭
@@AstroEscape 😂😂😂If It Werent For Hockey,I’d Go Nuts,I Was Able To Go Out Mon Night/Tues Morning,It Cleared Around Midnight,I Was Set And Aligned By 0100,Ive Got The Bodes,Pinwheel,And A Tiny Bit Of The Sombrero,It Was More Fun Than Ive Had All Winter Long❤️But My Neighbor Sent Me a Pic Yesterday Afternoon,I Was Busted By Their Ring Doorbell😂😂😂
I was really just wondering if you tried the entire setup with ‘station mode’ turned off? It seemed a little faster for me. Just connect using the IP address that is showing in ASIAIR under ‘wired ethernet’. Once I did this it connected automatically thereafter. I too am just imaging in my backyard using my home Wi-Fi to link with the TP-link extender.
Any thoughts about how I can figuring out why station mode only works *sometimes* (lately never) for me? Scan in ASIAIR app never works but typing in the IP address sometimes does (I access my router from a different system and find the IP address for the ASIAIR so I know it's the right one). I thought it was some of the anti piracy stuff in my router perhaps because one time I turned that off and was able to connect.... but turns out that was a coincidence..... An odd aside: with station mode on but connecting the tablet through ASIAIR wifi I can access the internet.... so that proves the ASIAIR is connected to the home wifi... I just can't get the the tablet to communicate with the ASIAIR through the home wifi 🤔
Great vid!! Thanks. I have my ASIair set to Station Mode and it works perfectly. I tried the Bluestacks. By downloading the ASI app, it loads a new instance and I cannot get Bluestacks to find my station mode set up. It corrupted the station mode and I had to refresh everything and start over. What is the proper installation sequence? Thanks!
That it odd that it corrupted. I've switched between my android tablet, old ipad, and bluestacks all in one session with no issues. Did you have to do any updates on the bluestacks app before you started?
Not nixed, postponed. I have plans for in city tests near houses and in a field well away from houses. Currently on a needed break for family matters. When I can, I'll record those tests.
Hi !! So I follow your very clear instructions on using blue stack and I am able to connect after a couple of tries. The issue I have is that when I take the exposure all works but I never see the image, I noticed that the status is always 0 kb when loading status bar. Any insight would be really appreciated. Thanks and clear skies!
@@AstroEscape thanks for getting back!! When I log on after setting up per your video, I see my laptop is connected to my home wifi and I am connected thru bluestacks X to the asiair no prob. another thing I noticed is that when I open the sky atlas on asiair, I can see the object but not the graphic as I see in iphone, so its hard to frame. I did notice that if I go, when doing a autorun, the photos are being saved Thank you!!!
Switch to your home wifi and scan for the ASI AIR. You should be able to see it from there. If not, direct connect back to it (using the AIR's wifi) and you can switch it back.
Great video, one thing to add is I noticed my asiair plus wont be recognized in the app until I turn off my mobile data. Is that something you do as well?
Hello Dylon, I have the following problem and I wanted to know if you think that using Station Mode would be suitable for this case. I have an SA GTI that only works via WiFi (the USB port doesn't work) and on the other hand, an Asiair Mini so it's not an option to use Ethernet between both devices, do you think I can connect to both devices using only WiFi with Station Mode and a tablet? thank you!
Yes, it should work. As long as both devices are on the same wifi network you should be able to see them. I'll check this weekend with the AM5 and the Skywatcher Star Adventurer 2i, both of which are wifi capable and let you know.
Great content, I am using a canon D450 modded. W/O 81 on a eq6rpro mount. People like you are absolute stars for none computer buffs like me. Could you show how to upload light darks flats to a pc.produce a folder and transfer all files into said folder from asi air.......SLOWLY for people like me to follow.. Thanks to you im producing good photos but transfers are my next task.....cheers Mick UK
I will have to play with it. I have a feeling that it is still somewhat hardware limited even if they updated the software side of it. Thanks for watching!
@@AstroEscape My pc doesn't like switching to 5G but I can use my phone or tablet to switch to 5G. Then when I re login with my computer I am now using 5G.
I don't see that on my end and I just got one. It's only looking for 2.4G networks. Is there a setting so it looks for 5G networks? Also, I created a guest network for 2.4G and it wasn't having it. I fought it for two hours, before trying it on my MAIN home network. As soon as I did that..... it worked. I was ready to throw everything out of the window of my house and almost gave up.
Personal preference. I find instructional videos without music a tad bland. I've worked on balancing the audio better. At minimum, I hope the information helped you.
I don’t think it asked for your password because it was still saved on your tablet. You may have reset the ASIAir but you probably didn’t reset the tablet
Wow I needed this video! I was not trying to stay in the kitchen all night to make sure everything goes smoothly!
There's something to be said about being able to stay inside, warm, during the winter and watch TV while being able to monitor the rig in the backyard.
Absolutely the best way. I hear often people discussing various antenna upgrades. The best upgrade is the router. A powerful router allows station mode and benefits the home network also.
Agreed. I think it's due to the limitations of it being a Raspberry Pi, and the low power it has transmitting out the signal. Sure, the antenna on the Plus is a great step forward, but using an external repeater that is built to put out stronger signal is always better.
@@AstroEscape ,Sounds Like The Same Issues People Were Having With The Celestron Wifi Adapter,Ive Never Had Issues With The Sky Fi3,Knowing This Is A Mini PC At The Same Time
Hi Daylon, I have a variation of your setup for you to try that might be faster. I too have the ethernet plugged into the ASIAIR but the Station Mode in the ASIAIR is totally turned OFF. You just have to go into the ASIAIR settings ahead of time by connecting directly to the ASIAIR's wifi signal and then look for the IP address that populates right below Wifi settings. It says 'Wired Ethernet'. Then reconnect your computer or tablet to your home wifi (or the TPlink wifi directly) and connect the ASIAIR using the IP address you just saw. It has been super fast and I can also use the 5G network no problem. Later when you start the ASIAIR app again it seems to connect automatically without even asking for the IP address. Try it and see if you notice any difference in speed!
The TPLink is indeed picking up my home wifi, that is intentional. I set it up so I can use that TP link at home and at other locations with the ASI AIR, and the tablet is always on the same Wifi network. It gets rid of complications, at least for me. I really only shoot in my backyard during colder months, otherwise I go to an observatory or a dark sky spot. Having everything line up gets rid of problems.
The problem is for PC users seeing wifi networks without a wifi card. In some tests, I set my TPlink to be the way my computer connected back to the router, and put the AIR in station mode. I could monitor the wifi traffic that way using a tool called Wireshark. I saw the AIR with some hiccups, and my PC could see it. With my home setup, the walls interrupted signal between the AIR and the router, but that's a fault of old housing, not the devices themselves.
There are many more variables in the wifi that I am planning on for a video that is planned for mid December, I hope I can explain those when I release it :)
great video, thanks finally got my extender to work. thanks again Don
Glad you got it working, Don!
Yet another video that skips straight past my problem. I’m sure it’s a great video and informative but you went beyond where I’m hung up at 1:20.
Becoming more and more convinced that the universe is telling me NOT to look up its dress.
What is the problem you are having? More details would help get you rolling.
@@AstroEscape thank you so much for replying. I was throwing a tantrum. I calmed down and kept plugging away.
Basically I was having a lot of initial connection issues but I addressed some Wi-Fi settings and have gotten past that.
Thanks to yourself and several others I seem to have gotten past most all my issues. Once a shutter release cable shows up then I can get past the 30s exp limit.
FYI for dslr users, when the manual shows an R with a line through it next to your dslr that means you need a cable, because a symbol with a line through it always mean you need that thing… sheesh. Just one example. (And yes, I now know that below the compatibility chart it shows what that symbol means but if I told you that a red sign that says stop means to go, you would still hesitate)
Aaaaaaanywho… not to say that I won’t be looking for help again but I think I’ve gotten over the teething problems.
Thank you again for the information and insight.
I think I’ll do a post on cloudy nights with all the issues I ran into and how I fixed them.
Cheers and clear skies.
Again a great video that helps me a lot in setting up my system, many thanks from Germany!
Dankeschön.
Früher konnte ich Deutsch, aber ich habe es vergessen und muss Google Translate verwenden. Das Dankeschön wurde allerdings nicht übersetzt. Ich bin froh, dass es geholfen hat.
BTW: I'm using Microsoft Subsystem for Android with the ASIAir app to run my ASIair Plus in station mode. Great video! It helped me get this set up.
I'm glad it helped. The good thing is, whether it's BlueStacks or the Windows 11 Android feature, the wifi part of setup should be the same.
Thank you for this, just tried my setup, the Asiair plus with a Redcat, and its working from bottom of the garden (55ft) away, not used a repeater as works ok without :)
Very nice! That's a lot of range for without a repeater!
Perfect! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video! I am looking forward to your next one. CS
Thank you for the kind words!
I just got my ASIAIR Plus. I have it setup by following this video to my home wifi. Was wondering if I'll need one of these for my AAP? I'll be about 40-50 feet away from my setup. I haven't used it yet as the weather here is terrible. Thanks for an excellent video. Appreciate it.
For the pro it is recommended. The wifi on the Pro is worse than the Plus. If you are only imaging at home, you could go with a standard Wifi router and plug both into it so they are both on the same wifi network.
Confusing the issue with extender, etc… just cover the station mode config would be clearer
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou!!
You are so welcome!
I Would Like To Be Able To Have This Before Next Winter,But Also Hope I Dont Have The Cloud Cover Ive Had This Winter🤨Congratulations On 3000,Glad I Could Be 1,Clear Skies❤️🙏🏻🌏✨🔭
Definitely get it, it's a great device! I hear you on the cloud cover, western PA is cloudy!
@@AstroEscape 😂😂😂If It Werent For Hockey,I’d Go Nuts,I Was Able To Go Out Mon Night/Tues Morning,It Cleared Around Midnight,I Was Set And Aligned By 0100,Ive Got The Bodes,Pinwheel,And A Tiny Bit Of The Sombrero,It Was More Fun Than Ive Had All Winter Long❤️But My Neighbor Sent Me a Pic Yesterday Afternoon,I Was Busted By Their Ring Doorbell😂😂😂
@@AstroEscape ,The Only Thing Is..I Love Being Under The Stars All Night,and Quietly,By myself..So As Long As Its Warm Out,It Wouldnt Get Used
I was really just wondering if you tried the entire setup with ‘station mode’ turned off? It seemed a little faster for me. Just connect using the IP address that is showing in ASIAIR under ‘wired ethernet’. Once I did this it connected automatically thereafter. I too am just imaging in my backyard using my home Wi-Fi to link with the TP-link extender.
Yeah, I have. It does work slightly better.
thanks for sharing
You're welcome, thank you for watching! Hope it helps!
Any thoughts about how I can figuring out why station mode only works *sometimes* (lately never) for me? Scan in ASIAIR app never works but typing in the IP address sometimes does (I access my router from a different system and find the IP address for the ASIAIR so I know it's the right one). I thought it was some of the anti piracy stuff in my router perhaps because one time I turned that off and was able to connect.... but turns out that was a coincidence.....
An odd aside: with station mode on but connecting the tablet through ASIAIR wifi I can access the internet.... so that proves the ASIAIR is connected to the home wifi... I just can't get the the tablet to communicate with the ASIAIR through the home wifi 🤔
Great vid!! Thanks. I have my ASIair set to Station Mode and it works perfectly. I tried the Bluestacks. By downloading the ASI app, it loads a new instance and I cannot get Bluestacks to find my station mode set up. It corrupted the station mode and I had to refresh everything and start over. What is the proper installation sequence? Thanks!
That it odd that it corrupted. I've switched between my android tablet, old ipad, and bluestacks all in one session with no issues. Did you have to do any updates on the bluestacks app before you started?
@@AstroEscape No updates were needed and I waited a few minutes to make sure.
Have you nixed the antenna test? I saw another vlogger who did this, but I think his procedures were flawed, so I'm hoping you still plan to do this.
Not nixed, postponed. I have plans for in city tests near houses and in a field well away from houses. Currently on a needed break for family matters. When I can, I'll record those tests.
Hi !!
So I follow your very clear instructions on using blue stack and I am able to connect after a couple of tries. The issue I have is that when I take the exposure all works but I never see the image, I noticed that the status is always 0 kb when loading status bar. Any insight would be really appreciated.
Thanks and clear skies!
Your connection might be weak. Are you on your home wifi fully, or directly connected to the AIR?
@@AstroEscape thanks for getting back!! When I log on after setting up per your video, I see my laptop is connected to my home wifi and I am connected thru bluestacks X to the asiair no prob. another thing I noticed is that when I open the sky atlas on asiair, I can see the object but not the graphic as I see in iphone, so its hard to frame. I did notice that if I go, when doing a autorun, the photos are being saved
Thank you!!!
Hi
I switched asi to station mode and now i can't figure out how to get out of it. I can't do anything with the asi screen..
Switch to your home wifi and scan for the ASI AIR. You should be able to see it from there. If not, direct connect back to it (using the AIR's wifi) and you can switch it back.
I was JUST thinking about this exact question. Any details on the antena you plan to test? Specific one you recomend?
I will go over that when I film the video. It might be a couple of weeks though.
Hey great video. What’s that emmc tan on top of the ASI software about? I don’t have it on mine.
The emmc is the internal storage for the ASI AIR plus. If you have the Pro, you won't see it since it doesn't have the internal storage.
Great video, one thing to add is I noticed my asiair plus wont be recognized in the app until I turn off my mobile data. Is that something you do as well?
I've seen that too, for cell phones. I use a tablet that doesn't have cell service, so I've personally not run into that problem.
Hello Dylon, I have the following problem and I wanted to know if you think that using Station Mode would be suitable for this case. I have an SA GTI that only works via WiFi (the USB port doesn't work) and on the other hand, an Asiair Mini so it's not an option to use Ethernet between both devices, do you think I can connect to both devices using only WiFi with Station Mode and a tablet? thank you!
Yes, it should work. As long as both devices are on the same wifi network you should be able to see them. I'll check this weekend with the AM5 and the Skywatcher Star Adventurer 2i, both of which are wifi capable and let you know.
@@AstroEscape Great, I follow your comenta, thanks
If my pc doesn't have wifi what would I need to connect to my pc?
As long as your PC is plugged into the same wifi router that the ASI AIR is accessing using station mode, you'll be able to see it.
So if we are wire connected, we don't have to use the antenna for the Plus or a modified Pro, do we?
That's correct. Your tablet/phone will be connected to the repeater, not directly to the ASIAIR.
Is this normal, my ASI Air was set to 2,4G Wifi and after connnecting it to my home Wifi it automatically changed to 5G Wifi?
Is your Wifi set up so the same network name uses both 2.4 and 5G? That might be one cause.
Great content, I am using a canon D450 modded. W/O 81 on a eq6rpro mount.
People like you are absolute stars for none computer buffs like me.
Could you show how to upload light darks flats to a pc.produce a folder and transfer all files into said folder from asi air.......SLOWLY for people like me to follow..
Thanks to you im producing good photos but transfers are my next task.....cheers Mick UK
I can add that to the list of videos. I'll be starting recording again here in the coming weeks :)
Great i forward to seeing you new videos.
Its great you spend your time helping others WE all appreciate the wirk you do.
Thankyou.Mick UK
Station mode appears to work with 5g now.
I will have to play with it. I have a feeling that it is still somewhat hardware limited even if they updated the software side of it. Thanks for watching!
@@AstroEscape My pc doesn't like switching to 5G but I can use my phone or tablet to switch to 5G. Then when I re login with my computer I am now using 5G.
I don't see that on my end and I just got one. It's only looking for 2.4G networks. Is there a setting so it looks for 5G networks? Also, I created a guest network for 2.4G and it wasn't having it. I fought it for two hours, before trying it on my MAIN home network. As soon as I did that..... it worked. I was ready to throw everything out of the window of my house and almost gave up.
Why music?
Personal preference. I find instructional videos without music a tad bland. I've worked on balancing the audio better. At minimum, I hope the information helped you.
I don’t think it asked for your password because it was still saved on your tablet. You may have reset the ASIAir but you probably didn’t reset the tablet
Yeah, you're right!
Thanks for mentioning how to get the IP address of the ASIair. That was a key detail!
It makes a difference for sure!
Thanks. It works perfect
You're welcome!
Wow top. Thankyou!!
You're welcome, thank you for watching!