Why UFC Fighters Are Broke - Documentary
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You might have heard that UFC fighters like Francis Ngannou and Jake Paul have been speaking out against the UFC and its president, Dana White, regarding fighter pay. In this eye-opening documentary, we'll dive into the controversy and explore the reasons behind their criticism.
We'll delve into the three main issues that led Francis Ngannou to leave the UFC: low earnings, strict contracts, and lack of health care coverage. Through in-depth analysis, we'll uncover why these problems have become a hot topic among fighters.
But that's not all - we'll also take a closer look at the business side of the fight game. We'll explore comparisons with other combat sports and other promotions, and examine the factors that determine how much fighters get paid in the UFC. It's a complex issue that requires understanding from all angles.
This documentary is a must-watch for any fight fan who wants to gain a better understanding of the ongoing debate around UFC fighter pay. Join my TH-cam channel as we dig deep into this unforgiving sport and shed light on the challenges faced by fighters in the fight business. Hit that play button now and get ready to be enlightened! #ufc #mma
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Thank you for watching, and a BIG THANK YOU to everyone commenting on the subject. Fighter pay isn't a straightforward issue, and I'm glad many of you recognize that this documentary was made to be unbiased. I do highlight a positive side of Dana White at the end-love him or hate him, he built the sport we love so much, so credit to him! The next video will be about Robert Whittaker. Stay tuned!
They leave the UFC with nothing. Bad injuries. CTE , no money. No pension, No insurance just Dana Whites foot out they door . thanks for the billions snuka
Dana white and the owners STOLE it all. Dana got 500 million in the bank. Ortiz, Chuck, BI Penn, Counture have 500 bucks on the bank. Most of the new fighters same chet
The occult establishment built and owns the ufc. That is why it is no1. White is a hoto frontman.
The UFC has 300 fighters. 5% are stars.
The entitlement is a new generation thing... not everyone is marketable... it's also the fight game... gotta fight to be the best.. don't sign the CONTRACT then
How many people play basketballs and how many became NBA stars? That's life. Not everyone can be a star.
@@FlipNasty1 It's not Fight and get paid it's sell tickets and get paid
Exactly no stars at all
@@patrickp8315 Difference being the nature of a team game vs that of 1v1 combat. In a team game, you can play a role, not be a star, and still make a healthy living being someone who props up the star. In 1v1 combat sports, if you're a fighter, there's no bench. There's no propping up another guy. You're the guy.
Because Dana White wants to play $600,000 a hand at blackjack in vegas.....
You think he plays cards with his bosses money?
What a tool Dana is a scumbag
What boss
@joedimaggio1259 Ari Emmanuel, the Board of Directors, the financial duty owed by operating in the best financial interest of the shareholders considering the UFC is part of a publicly traded company and so on. So I know people love spinning that yarn that none of the UFC fighters get paid anything and that it’s all flowing over to Dana as the nefarious thief taking the pot because it sure is a much cooler story than the boring realities that have been stated endlessly by essentially everybody ever involved with the UFC that push against the narrative in so many ways about fighter pay and the boring basic fundamentals of operating a business that actually has an obligation of operating in a fashion that has a chance of reaching a profit and providing a return to shareholders. For one people often make their argument simply looking at the reported payouts from athletic commission disclosures despite it being long established that fighters almost always earn more than the disclosures indicate since the disclosures disclosure have never reflected any of the bonus pay fighters earned which is often well above their show/win money would get disclosed.
Or court document showing exact amounts higher name fighters earned prior to the endeavor sale that was disclosed as $500K but was actually $5-6M. Or even Dana being such a greedy bastard that prior to the sale that stopped it paid a fighter like Liddell $400K a year to hold a BS job to try to help him remain retired to protect his health. But everybody loves to argue by using the minority of top paid boxers who earn absurd guarantees for PPV cards that end up losing huge sums of money to the point that the long standing providers of boxing for decades have exited the sport entirely and almost all major name fighters almost only box in Saudi who will subsidize the immense losses and use that as the standard of the fairness of what UFC fighters earn. The boring reality is only the slim majority of boxers earn the extreme paydays people point to, those events almost always lose huge money, the average fighter in the UFC makes more than the average pro boxer, and surprisingly when you need to profit from your events you can’t guarantee somebody $30M and then sell less than 100K in buys like Ngannou and Fury did and remain in business without somebody subsidizing your endless losses.
What Dana White does with the money he earns is irelevant.. 3 men took the UFC basically from hell and turned it into a Sport and and something thats so far ahead of the fucking game it would take something pretty amazing to even compare.. Its not even an apples and oranges game. 2% of UFC revenue for fighter pay is still more money as a whole than these wonton promotions talkin shit about they pay 50%. ..... 50% of nothing will always be NOTHING!. Do they offer anything else? Ufc offers many diff professional services thru a free World Class Facilty. Those people whom provide those services and therapy dont come w/o a cost. As a business owner. I dont care if you think Dana Whites greedy a dickhead or how you feel. Noone can disrespect him for what its taken from him to put the UFC in a Premier World Class position.. As with anything in life, If you suck, your pay reflects it. If you make a Company revenue you will reap the rewards thru negotiating the right contracts, financially, if you invest and not run thru money living outside of your means" youll be sucessful. This shits all ABC type stuff. The UFC imo falls between Sports/Entertainment category. If you attract the publics eyes,Your loyal to the business,.You build relations, Youll be on top of the heap. Is Mcgregor one of my favs? naw. Has he done alot for mma hell ya and i respect that in him. Has he invested,made wise decisions with his revenue. Of course. Will he ever hurt financially . I dont forsee it. My point is in my rambling is. Not everyone in the fight game wil be sucessful rich and famous. You must plow a path to sucess. I mean literally fuckin plow a path. And Dana White gives back to his fighters and the community in ways others apparently dont pay attention or see simply because its Danas business whether he chooses to discuss it or not. Just remember its a fighters goal to grasp all he can. Its the UFC as a business whos there to do exactly the same. Its not a share your wealth world in business.Dana has numbers ran constantly and i dont believe he will ever risk the UFC as being less than World Class over a few bucks pay or pay lesa than any other promotion pays. The percentage talk is horse shit. 50% sounds great but only is 50% is above the 5% UFC offered. And its not close.. just throwing numbers out there above so no drama . People almost gets locked into positions they really dont want to be in, stop think , weigh out options prior to making yourself miserable or homeless. America offers alternatives, choices, options. Move on if its not cutting it for you personally.
At the very least they should allow them to have their own sponsors again. If they’re truly independent contractors then their sponsors shouldn’t matter to you they are their own brand at that point.
Agreed
I agree. But it does look better with no sponsors
Its not even a look thing anymore. They could have criteria and other ways for making it more appealing. But how much money does Endeaver lose in assets annually for no longer offering big name companies big advertisements exclusive that doesn't often have a competitor on the same card.
They can have their own sponsors. The only stipulation is The walk to the cage, inside the cage, and the walk from the cage. SO they have all of fight week to do press displaying their sponsor. They can also do TV ads year around.
Watching this video shows the UFC is taking care of the fighters way better than any other promotion including 80% of boxers..
So y'all idiots get off the band wagon and look at the facts.
@Trucker231610 yes but a sponser pays 10x the amount to wear it while fighting compared to pre fight/post fight
Basically, UFC pay top 1% and the rest of the 99% are screwed
But thats also life no?
just like casino does
Just like boxing
Just like life... so what
😢 feel so bad!
“I’m gonna drink a Coors Light….thats a Coors Light because Bud Light won’t pay me nothing!”
Brock Lesnar saying the quiet part out loud 15 years ago
Best line ever! I remember Brock saying that at I believe UFC 200 - the only UFC I ever paid to watch.
Great documentary that shows both sides.
This deserves SO many more views.
Thanks brother!
True, love that it showed both sides
RIP Bonner, true warrior and pioneer
Bonnar.
He died of a fentanyl overdose not because the UFC didn't pay him enough
@@tmzz3609no one said anything about how he died. He was in one of the most impactful fights of all time. Use your brain
@@tmzz3609he said absolutely nothing too do with him besides rip, and you then toss his addiction and struggle into it? Wow , dirtbag comment of the month, maybe even the year so far 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@tmzz3609 I think its a prescription pain ki11er. He was probably on oxy for years...
Dana you need to pay these guys more. You're worth $500M. How can you sleep at night? New young fighters can't afford to fight. Give them a chance. Be fair.
Lmfaoooooooooooooooooo....
Oooooooooooooo... oooooo.
No. Lol
Dana isn't the CEO, it's Ari Emmanuel. Its a publicly traded company where an investment group Silver lake management owns 30 percent of the shares.
Please educate yourself, it's sad UFC fighters are so financially clueless they think Dana White pays them out of his own pocket
@DragonZombie2000 thank you lol 😆
Most of them are poor as chet after they leave, And have lots of injuries and the CTE getting WORSE. Dana White got over 500 million in the bank
Jeff Bezos is worth 197 billion, yet his delivery employees start out making 15 hours, and they have a better chance of dying on the job. It is a world problem, not a fight world problem only.
I am 61 years old are used to watch all the sports but now the only sport watches UFC it really really really pisses me off that these people are sacrificing and risking their life for pennies in reality
Hey, I’M 61 years old and only watch MMA. But I’m not sure I still think the fighters are underpaid. To be honest, I’m not 100% sure I really understand what the takeaway was from this video. Seemed to me that they were saying the UFC pays pretty well.
Anyway, I just love the game. If I had to do it all over again, I’m pretty sure I would give MMA a try.
But, alas, that ship has sailed...
...had a grease fire, an outbreak, and a mutiny, THEN hit the iceberg and sank.
I’m 72 and it pisses me off too
I’m 37 and I really don’t give a sh!t, they couldn’t care less about me and what I make or if I risk my life in a dangerous job so why would I care or any fan for than matter?
Yea but you still watch it
Mighty mouse earning 200000 at the most is RIDICOULESS! Derrick lewis makes 400000 everytime he goes in the octagon.
i was expecting to just watch 2 minutes of this documentary. I ended up watching the WHOLE thing!! Mad love and huge respect to the dudes who put this together. Great doc!!
Im glad you liked it! The dudes is actually just one guy, me 😅 stick around, Max Holloway documentary coming out in the next few days
@@bloodsportfilms count me in my guy. I'll be there.
Wow!!! You committed 30 minutes of your busy life!! Amazing!
Wow ,! You actually showed both sides.
In my opinion, the only thing I don't like is how much they pay fighters for their first fights. If they give new fighters 20k and 20k. There are no more fighter pay problems.
Because in my opinion, fighters, during their first fights, are in most need for money, because that extra 5k or 8k means a better fight camp or a dietitian.
There's a problem with journalists who claim to be unbiased, notoriously, Ariel helwani. That guy always use fighters to shit on the UFC and especially Dana white.
That is such a great point, yes I agree the new fighters should get more since a camp can cost a lot of money.
And yeah mma journalism needs improvement. The thing is, they know all of this stuff and even more but their job isn't always about the truth its about selling stories, some sad stuff really.
Yes, he shits on Dana and the ufc more than others but honestly there is truth in what he says. I agree journalism should be unbiased but fighters in the ufc should get more not only the stars should be payed accordingly.
cos dana is evil.
"If you're in business with me, don't tell me no"
That sounds like a superiority, inferiority relationship if anything.
That quote was taken out of context. He was talking about being able to bring ideas to life.
How a pimp talks to his women 😂
Sounds like P. Diddy!
Chilling when she says “Tony Ferguson”
You can tell that made it real and she didn’t want to say his name.
Talk about last resort. And still, he hasn’t revived any major psychological help(at least publicly).
I can’t imagine it all of a sudden just got better. Just better at hiding it.
@@pittsburghbob69I seen him on Rampages pod recently and he still seemed a bit out there..even for Tony.. I really hope the best for him. It really wasn't that long ago he was on a 12 fight win streak..and (mostly) loved by the fans. I remember hearing that phone call before and I agree with your take..she didn't want to do that..must be awful.
El cucuy
As a contractor myself, the main and nearly only problem i see with ufc pay is that they are not paid a cent for their exclusivity, I subcontract for one person , if a better offer come in i can leave and take that work and if someone wanted to lock me into a exclusive contract I'd want to be compensated with either lump sum,extra % per job or a wage like payment. I feel if the fighters come together to fix this one thing, it solves almost all problems with fighter pay
Yep you are right
It's odd Dana smash boxing over Bowe throwing his belt in the trash when Conor essentially did the same thing with two belts.
People dont realize the severity of signing a contract. The promotion has you by the balls. Unless you're Conor, jones, gsp or jorge to name a few.
But if you don't like it, don't sign it. That's why it's called a negotiation
They also got grabbed by the b*lls.
Remember when Conor was frustated that the UFC didn't give him fights
The idea of a promotion investing to build the name and brand of a fighter they don’t have over a longer period of time to see a return on is fairly silly, hence why all the major promotions operate that way. Even in boxing that idea of full freedom doesn’t really exist.
All athletes have to realize that there are inherent risks in their sports, race car driving, fighting, football. So they can’t go back and blame anyone else for that, but I always believed the UFC fighters are getting screwed big time on pay. Especially when the UFC took all their sponsorship deals, that was a dirty ass move. And Dana is a greedy scumbag, he said boxers are overpaid? They wouldn’t put on the promotions if people weren’t making money. The UFC will only pay the fighters the bare minimum that they have to to keep them, and since the other organizations are so small, right now the UFC is the most lucrative fighting organization for the promoters
by a long shot. And the performance institute is free for fighters, that is great, but don’t act like you are so benevolent Dana, when you know damn well it is a tax right off, come on!
Yeah Show Time made so much money huh😂😂 they don’t make enough revenue or sell enough ppvs; they weren’t profitable😂
This is true unless you're a mcgregor with an entire country paying for your PPVs you're broke because of all the things you need to pay for and time you need to allot to compete. This is why I was stopped by my mother to pursue boxing when she was still alive. I won 10 fights. I only got 1500 philippine pesos and I needed 1500 more to pay more my monthly gym membership also I had to get checked because I had signs of punch drunk. I lost more money because a lot of things go to nutrition, gym fees, cornermen and management. You do it because you love it. Now I'm trying to get back because competing is very thrilling it's like you're a god in there.
man what a story, I wish you all the best my friend!
Don’t forget, McGregor really made his most money in a non-UFC boxing match with Mayweather. I think the rumor was that a purse of more than $100 million was paid each fighter.
I do t know the economics, I think Dana White allowed McGregor to fight Mayweather, and then promoted the fight and took a cut for himself and or the UFC.
It was a pretty amazing financial outcome.
@@HalFraseryes, Dana and UFC took a cut off Conor's Paycheck.
Francis on the other hand didn't have to give anything to Dana
When UFC video game first came out, some fighters were forced to sell their likeness in perpetuity For $1500 or risk, having their contract. Terminated.
Force lmaooo. Yeah they where at gunpoint forced either sign or die. Yep, I read that too in some reddit dwellers post 😂😂
There were a lot of good points made in this video/short doc that I've never heard nor thought about before. Great content. - new sub
Welcome aboard!
Great doc.. small bit of advise.. turn the background music down
Thank you!
I agree, it's not too loud, but 10% quieter would be better
@@harrytgough9101 stop the hate bro
Loved this video man! Please make more I really enjoyed this!
So the moral of the story is health care is way too expensive
A very VERY well made video in my opinion. This showed in detail both sides of the fence with just facts instead of opinions and without any biased bs like there usually always is and i thought that was fantastic i really enjoyed this video and I'd love to see more videos of this calibre its important that fact based stuff like this is shown so people can make their own minds up about stuff thats real instead of having to take someone else's opinions on board like how the media usually portrays the stories they're doing and then probably change their minds on it all next week. This is how it should be shown to us....facts....actual factual facts. Shouldn't be too much to ask for imo.
Well said, mate. This is sadly all too rare. No ready-made opinions, no spin, no left or right wing agendas. As Det. Joe Friday used to say, “Just the facts.” Documentaries should ALL be like this. Well done!
Movie level production documentary. Great Job!
Great video bro. 👊
Great documentary, first time viewer and now subbed. Great pacing and you don't sound like a bot!
Welcome aboard!
Great work
Thank you so much 😀
Great video. From dramatic to beautiful ending. Great Documentary 🎉
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well made learned alot!!!
Great documentary!
I used to head to mma junkie and read results of shows and it always blew me away how low the pay was especially for the undercard fighters. Now this is in the mid 2000s just before and just after TUF. Once that hit the sport blew up as we all know. Even a couple of years after the first TUF it blew me away that guys would get $1000 to $3000 for an undercard bout. No way that would even cover a proper fight prep. Hell it probably wouldn't cover your food and supplement alone. The sport was huge even when it was growing. We all saw the clothing lines, fighters were getting sponsorship deals with supplement companies, etc, but it was just pathetic how much a lot of those fighters were paid.
All of the them should protest and not show up for a major ppv event. Pull a lock out.
Very interesting point! So like a strike for a UFC ppv event in order to increase pay?
@@bloodsportfilms exactly lol i dont think
Itll ever happen though
@@youssefhamidi8152 we never know honestly 🤷🏽♂️ the NFL players did it in the past maybe the UFC fighters will someday
That would be so stupid if they did that UFC could cut all the small irrelevant fighters who dared to try to ruin their ppv and where do they go than no where cause they don't have big enough names and all the big fighters would get fined from the UFC for not applying to the ppv that they signed on there own contract and fans wouldn't side with them a small amount will but not the majority remember when Jon Jones refused to fight at ppv and they were forced to cancel it the UFC fans piled on him angrily I like your morals but not the idea a more better solution is fighters to get big in the UFC and when that are huge then threaten to leave so the UFC can offer more expensive payment it what Francis f,ed up on he should taken the Jones fight and than if he won be the biggest and most wanted free agent.
@@KyleDadngannou still got that fury fight though hes done pretty well in the end
Great video
Showed insights from both sides
Amazing amazing work
Nice balanced documentary.
Very well done.
Outstanding work 👏
Thank you!
Fantastic doc, mate. thank you.
My pleasure!
Great video. I dislike the UFC and its practices, but as you showcased, the fighter pay situation is more nuanced than it seems
Dana white lying to us fighters cant speak on there contract it gag clause in there contract UFC only sport that don’t pay enough
women athletes everywhere reading this 0_0
This is a great documentary !
Well done
I would never recommend a kid to aspire to be a professional fighter. The money is absolutely not worth the risk. Use the same efforts somewhere else.
These guys could have gone to school to learn, instead they went there to start their fight clubs.
By far the most honest breakdown I’ve seen on the subject, No BS and plenty of facts to back up the message, great video 👏
Glad you enjoyed!
Us fans, we are so used to seeing the big stars earn millions so we dont ever think about those $50K fight of the night or KO of the night bonuses are literally life-changing money for the fighters lower on the card
good vidoe here and it was non biased in my opinion it was a real look at the fight game/business with honest looks at alot of ppl
This a great video
Glad you think so!
Long ago I friend of mine use to fight for the ufc. He left after they tried to get him to sign a paper stating that the ufc was not a monopoly. Today we can clearly see that it is. Low pay and no gain. Dana going around bragging about how he gets banned from casinos because he won a million 🙄 but then lost 3, million he actually believed their hype and they got him lol~ fighting for free is not what any sport athlete plays for. Nick Diaz & Nate Diaz had a big name but both fighters combined never made more than mcgregor why is that fair? Let’s be honest today we easily see how ufc fighters have gotten ripped off ( Reebok curtain deal) to further steal money from fighters. Enough said.
Thats why ONE Championship I'm Asia is important. And they coming for the UFC and they make more money than the UFC because Asia is by far the biggest market.
Shoot look the PGA Tour. If you don't make the weekend cut you don't get paid anything at all. Imagine going to work and not getting paid anything. That's why I'm for LIV Golf Tour the more great paying options the better for the athletes.
Great Doc!!! Love that you showed both sides. The main point for me was how Dana takes care of his fighters, let pettis use the PI after he left for his mental health, told Nate whatever you need this is your house, tons of donations to struggling fighters going through issues, the 1-million-dollar surprise checks to fighters even after they lose! Dana is a Legend, and the UFC is beyond a great company.
How can Dana white pay 50% when he gives the nelk boys 250,000 birthday presents
Fairly done my man. Well executed! The fighter PI was an absolute game changer. 15-15 or 15-20 from 10-10. If you can just get a finish for 50k & do the institute you can lay a foundation but, not everyone can risk & lose while already being in debt like most are starting
This is very informative and unbiased. Great work
I remember when Jared Cannonier was interviewed after a fight and said that he was broke and needed more money. He has something like 5 kids, but he is from Dallas, TX where (at the time) the cost of living was lower than many other cities and according to a web search his net worth is estimated at about $1 million. That puts him in the upper class. All the fans who think UFC fighters aren't paid enough need to look at their own paychecks first.
Amazing documentary
Glad you think so!
Very interesting video.
I think the reebook/venom deal is the bigges problem. NBA and soccer player havetheir shoe deals, amd it is a lot of money.
Fighters involve in a platform like the ufc could be making huge money for sponsors. Maybe UFC could get a cut like 10-20%.
I still think the UFC fighters are underpaid.
Former UFC Champion Randy Couture is Advocating For the Ali Act To Be Amended Legislated Into MMA.
UFC back in the day, charged every sponsor 100k to be able to even get a chance to sponsor them on their show.
They are. Remer the biggest UFC Fighter ever McGregor didn't get filthy filthy rich until he did a boxing match. That says it all.
Extremely underrated video
This was a really good video. Its a complicated situation but I love the UFC. Im grateful for it and don't ever want to see it replaced. I love the fighters too and respect and want the best for them. I think the UFC does a lot of good and sometimes gets an unfair bad rep.
Glad you enjoyed it
Dana White controls everything. He’s making millions per event. The fighters are just making thousands. Once you’re no good anymore, you’re discarded like a bottle cap. Dana White ain’t stupid.
Wow interesting to hear this
The Ali Act Needs To Be Amended Legislated Into MMA. Former UFC Champion Hall of Fame Randy Couture Is Advocating For It.!
But the other promoters they need to do just as good as UFC because will just out bid them
@@reginaldmerriweather4713 The Bellator President Scott Coker is in Favor of the Ali Act.
Randy is a dummy and so are you. You capitalized evert word of your post. The Ali Act would ruin MMA as it did boxing.
Agreed. Fighter pay will go up significantly
The ufc spends millions a year to keep it from coming to mma
“Aren’t you gonna wash your hands?” 🤣
Great vid btw
Thanks! 😁
A Really Good Video 📹 👏 Wow!!
Thanks! 😃
As long as the fighters avoid collective bargaining they will be preyed on by the promotions.
With the release of all the documents around the antitrust lawsuit it feels like this video is now outdated because we have clear facts that show how underpaid they are. And how greedy and controlling the UFC is.
Preach
Thanks
It would be easy to crack down on strikes to a knocked out or tkod opponent. Some guys get hit HARD by the hardest hitters when they are already out cold, that cant be good
The UFC needs to get rid of that reebok contract and let these fighters get their own sponsors. Some fighters lost 6 figures when the UFC signed that contract.
There will always be unhappy employees no matter where you go, it's human nature to want more. This topic would be a mute point had it not been for Dana and the Furtida's resurrecting the sport. They virtually turned a non-existent sport into a world wide phenomenon. I love the fighters and they are the reason I watch the fights, they do not have to sign contracts with the UFC but they do because the UFC comparatively takes care of their fighters better than any alternative fighting organization. I do not know Dana White but I have teared up a few times over some of his acts of kindness and I truly feel he is a boss that cares.
Prime logo on a ufc mat sure changed the Paul brothers view on Dana and the ufc
Why cause g he e took their money ?
It’s funny how you clipped
“ Dana is a notorious gambler”
What he actually said was that Dena was a notorious gambler for winning he has been removed from casinos, and he’s not allowed to play at certain places because he wins
Anything to paint the narrative the way they want you to think 😂. He thought he was slick and we wouldn't notice.
There is literally thousands of boxers that are unheard of to the mainstream public even some armchair fans that are making more than most of the top 15 in every weight division of the UFC
If Dana white doesn’t change the way things are structured very soon he will loose control of the MMA world
He already is. One Championship in Asia is bigger abd makes more money.
It's harder to make a buck in boxing than UFC unless you're the 1% elite PRO.
Just look what new boxers earn,
They earn less than the UFC fighters.
What do expect a fighter nobody knows with like 5 fights, should he be earning 500k?
I thought DC was going to say they asked for the million back after the Rumble fight lol.
Hope this video will get more attention!
Thank you sir! Time will tell :)
Great job for an independent content creator!
Much appreciated!
I think its normal that failing promotions try to attract talent by paying more because there’s less weight on their brand compared to the fighters brands unlike the ufc
The ufc made them that has a value.
Music a bit loud. You should turn it down a notch or 2
The stupidest argument against fair pay is "keeping competition viable". As if the UFC were underpaying to give other promotions a chance. If you have a successful business you pay, how your business associates handle success is not your problem; Dana White is not supposed to starve fighters to keep them honest. It's amazing he gets away with those comments.
Good Documentary 💯💯
Much appreciated!!!
Great video! Thanks!
You're welcome!
Why this video turn into a passages malibu ad at the end?
So people that get punched in the face make bad business decisions??? Noooooooooo... 🤦♂️
28:15 I'm glad this guy asked that question, that's what I wondered at the start of the documentary. Some UFC fighters are dumb with money
People like to compare boxing revenue. But even in boxing only the main event gets the majority of the revenue. Undercard is severely underpaid.The UFC is an actual company with employees. They have bottom lines. Boxing is standalone per whatever the main event is.
Some of these dudes fight once or twice a year. Tyson was fighting monthly when he was starting out
One of the first things I was wondering about is if fighters could monetize or setup their own gym if they "make their own hype". I still don't understand wassup with the Reebok deal. I saw a fight in an other league in which a female fighter approached the Octagon in her gi because she had a background in Judo. Of course, she took it off before actually entering the Octagon. Now, I'm a sucker for symbolism and tradition when It comes to Martial Arts, and I found this a beautiful statement by the Joduka. Can't the UFC set something like that? Approach the Octagon with an outfit displaying whatever you want, within reason, not necessarily a cooperate sponsor. Take it of before you enter wearing the UFC-standard uniform and entering the Octagon?
Seanchai gave workshops after his fighting career.
Basically before the Reebok deal fighters could get companies to put ads on their kit and these fighters would ge money from the company. Werdum said he use to get up to 150k$ per fight by getting these sponsorships. The UFC banned that and now the fighters can only wear the outfits provided by the UFC. And the UFC are the ones receiving money from Reebok . They do give to the fighters but very little, something like from 2k to max 24k which is a huge difference.
@bloodsportfilms Well, I'm sure you understand the symbolism of wearing the traditional outfit of your basic martial art. If both opponents would do something similar, then that would emphasize that the UFC Octagon is THE spot where martial arts are tested against each other. That was the original concept of MMA. But money speaks louder than tradition. 🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷
Man that was tough seeing Stephen Bonnar there.
Its the entertainment business. If you're entertaining, the (entertainment) company pays you. It's plain and simple. There's no confusion here.
Smart work is just as important as hard work.
Legit documentary
Fighter pay isnt the issue. Its costs of fighting. UFC should pay for the medical tests, food, coaches, travel. All of it went into the fight so why should fighters have to pay to fight. UFC should have some sort of per diem for each fight.
that's a good point, basically provide employee benefits!
This is incredibly uninformed
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When a fighter is under contract for a fight all their medical expenses are covered. All their travel is covered.
So...If they got payed more they could afford all of that
Sounds pretty fair to me nowadays. May have had a rough patch h bit fighters who bring in money make money. Then their able to get sponsorships like commercials or advertising. They should definitely have a social media presence making money off it. Along with other ways to make money as well.
Great documentary but I still think the fighters are underpaid. The fighters leave it all in the ring and the damage is so severe when they leave the sport. There is no medical insurance or retirement in the UFC and there should be as much as the UFC brings in moneywise. Dana is Don King 2.0.
Who the hell would release the 911 call from Tony’s wife being so rattled and scared an for such a serious situation, that should be a private matter… that’s so wrong
The key is to remember is that nothing is free. Would you rather have higher payouts and be reaposible to take care of your healthcare cost, or lower payouts and someone else takes care of your heathcare cost? The fights themselves are the payout generators so even making the organization that hosts them have to spread Pay and benefits way out in front and/or behind those events creates complexity which generally adds risk, lowers the payout amt, and even lowers overall payout potential to any individual fighter.
In Boxing you can have good amateur career first and can get a good contract from promoter. MMA does not have that
The ufc should pay the fighters trainers a set amount so that the fighter can keep the money he's paid instead of having to pay most of it out.
No.. clearly you were born after the 90s