The final 3 in the last two seasons were almost identical. 1 strategic guy who's the winner, 1 "genuine likeable" guy who didn't do enough to get votes and 1 crazy/neurotic/emotional/gaslighted female goat. I sense a pattern, a formula, and I hope they change it up through a different finale route.
I like Ben, and still to this day he's the only winner I've predicted from the first episode, but I was expecting him to say Parvati or Cochran for that answer.
I will gag is Ben wins 40 🤮 Parvati is his favorite female winner! 💯👑 I cannot believe he chose Rob over Sandra 😒🙄 Sandra won twice back to back in the first two times she played and it took Rob four times to get the title SMH 🤦🏾♀️
I don't know why Jeff continues to think Final 3 "makes it a little more complicated." *The* *stats* *F3* *(n=24)* *VS.* *F2* *(n=15):* *All three finalists at FTC received at least one vote 21% of the time (n=5) VS. Both finalists at FTC received at least one vote 93% of the time (n=14). *17% of F3 were decided by one vote (n=4) VS. 33% of F2 were decided by one vote (n=5). *17% of F3 were unanimous votes (n=4) VS. 7% of F2 were unanimous (n=1). *Out of all F3 seasons, 58% of the time the runner-up gets two or less votes (0 votes: n=4; 1 vote: n=4; 2 votes: n=7). This occurs during a period where the jury is getting larger and larger (average jury size of F3 seasons: 8.9). *Out of all F2 seasons, 60% of the time the runner-up gets two or less votes (0 votes: n=1; 1 vote: n=5; 2 votes; n=3). BUT this occurs with an average jury size of 7.2, in which a 5-2 vote is much more "stackable" and dramatic for Jeff/production (i.e., good for TV) than is a 7-2 vote that would be more common in a F3 FTC. So, F2 is arguably more dramatic/complicated as a F3 (certainly much less likely to be unanimous, and much more likely to be decided by one vote). In addition, jury inflation is killing the drama of FTC.
as someone studying stats i respect your work ethic so much, and as a fan of survivor can we PLEASE make jeff understand this?? not only do the real fans know a final 2 is better, but the numbers do too
As much as I admire the statistics, there is a big problem with it. In prior seasons of Survivor the jury would vote based on whatever craziness they decided. Now people are respecting more and more other's games. So, I'm not sure if F2 is actually better than F3 based on these numbers.
i liked Ben too, i don't know why people didn't like his season that much. When they decided to vote him off and by watching them cornered him and not talking him, it really broke his heart, i still remember, near the water fountain and this was where he entered "war" mode.
I liked the season until the fire making twist. It wasn’t rigged for Ben but it sure gave off the appearance that it was. I think the fire making twist is awful for the game
I’m sure they’d want to bring her back. She’s a lifelong fan and applied for years and years, got cut way too early to show her true potential, and now is showing so much personality and devotion to the show after her season
Ben is a favorite of mine. Given that this is the second time I have heard Jeff single him out (Jeff was also asked who would be on his Mt. Rushmore list of Survivor players and he listed Ben) tells me that either Ben has done something extraordinary this season, or that he and Mark Burnett have a future endeavor which includes him. As a personal message to Ben....thank you, for your service and continued inspiration for others who have served. I am super excited to see how W@W pans out.
I think they just saw him become an underdog who was a target every Tribal Council and decided it would be a great arc if he made it to the end -- hence all the magical advantages that kept coming up that favored Ben exclusively.
1. Final 3 literally has a goat almost everytime 2. Bula burger bar literally gave allison and Alec stomach problems but it did result in "is she doing yoga" 3. Ben is a wrong answer
Survivor Second Chance 2 Capri 1 Daniel season 6 2 John K season 9 3 Jeff season 10 4 Neleh season 4 5 Twila season 9 6 Mia season 9 7 Darrah season 7 Hayan 1 Tracy season 16 2 Jason season 16 3 Ashley season 22 4 Sandy season 18 5 Holly season 21 6 Sash season 21 7 Pete season 25 QiAn 1 Reed season 29 2 Garrett season 28 3 Nick season 32 4 Dean season 39 5 Lauren season 38 6 Ali season 35 7 Molly season 39
So Ben wins this season right? I wish Jeff wasn't so spoilery, i remember when he spoiled in an interview that Michele won before the season even premiered.
@JustAnotherMonday Someone at a Q&A event asked him how the game had evolved and he said, "Well, before you had to be a really strategic player to win, like Parvati. But in the sesaon we just finished, we have a player named Michelle who's like a new Parvati except she played a low-key quiet game." So it didn't explicitly say she'd win but considering she was absent from the edit at that point, it was obvious she'd have a big impact on the game in some way.
Well that explains why they introduced the final 4 fire making challenge. Oh and Jeff’s constant praise for men is disgusting. He will always choose Rob over Sandra even though she won twice and he had to play 4 times to win
@@LAVproductions if you never noticed how sexist Probst is, you are blind. And no, Rob only once and should've won only once because thats the way this game works. 25% vs 66% yet Rob is better than Sandra, yeah right
And the season Rob won, he did so by using his celebrity as a past "Survivor" player to strong-arm everyone into 1) not talking to each other and 2) to report anytime someone suggested voting him out, or else they'd be punished. And the contestants were too star-struck/incompetent that season to counter him. It didn't even feel like a season of "Survivor."
Just because he just so happens to answer multiple questions with male answers does not mean he is sexist! Did you even hear him talk about how great Sandra was too? In fact he talked more about Sandra then rob! You’re one of those people who just make me the human race to die.
Don’t focus on how Rob won. Compare his gameplay in previous seasons to Sandra. He did a lot guys! Just because his win wasn’t his finest achievement does not mean that he’s worse than Sandra.
I'm going to be honest- I think he said Ben as a misdirect answer. because like all of this press is for season 40, so I think his real favorite winner is Parv (but she might go far this time as well) but if gets people talking about her I might make it more obvious. And his top seasons other than 40 were 2 seasons parv was in the finale. SOOOOO- possibly a thread? LOL THIS IS JUST AN IDEA PLEASE DONT ATTACK ME IM JUST THINKING LOL
like he wants the winner to be a surprise, so if he keeps her name out of his mouth as much as possible, then she is less suspected to win. and she's already set up in the story to go home like every week- which would make it more surprising if she overcomes it (sounds like a great story to me)
So this is Jeff admitting that they created the final 4 fire making challenge for Ben especially. Jeff really wanted him to win because he's a war hero.
The fact Jeff thinks a F3 is better than a F2; prefers Rob to Sandra; and considers Ben his favorite winner just shows to prove how biased his rationale is -- it's disgusting
jeff is so fake... OF COURSE he's doing all the press for this season... i have a feeling something went down out there and the winners arent happy about it...
The final 3 in the last two seasons were almost identical. 1 strategic guy who's the winner, 1 "genuine likeable" guy who didn't do enough to get votes and 1 crazy/neurotic/emotional/gaslighted female goat. I sense a pattern, a formula, and I hope they change it up through a different finale route.
they need to get rid of the fire making Challenge at the final 4.
I'm sorry, was Chris Underwood the "strategic" guy?
mariettula *three seasons. it’s the same in dvg kinda lol
I'd argue that's been the final 3 for the past 4 seasons lol
Nels Danburg it’s actually been the same the past 7 seasons, just with a gender switch in 34
Jeff skydiving was one of the coolest things ever!!! 😃😃
I KNEW it was going to be Rob, but he's had a man-crush on him for ages.
I like Ben, and still to this day he's the only winner I've predicted from the first episode, but I was expecting him to say Parvati or Cochran for that answer.
Thought his answer for every question was gonna be rob
favorite location?
*R O B*
HvV 2 or SC 2?
rob
It's hilarious that Ben is Jeff's favourite when he's my least favourite winner 😂🤷♀️
I'm so happy I'm not the only one. My dad thinks Ben gonna win this season just to hug me.
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Same. Lol
I thought he was gonna say Parvati as his fav winner
lmao he can’t even pronounce her name
You stole my comment!
I will gag is Ben wins 40 🤮
Parvati is his favorite female winner! 💯👑
I cannot believe he chose Rob over Sandra 😒🙄 Sandra won twice back to back in the first two times she played and it took Rob four times to get the title SMH 🤦🏾♀️
@@arielhumbert5490 Sandra is the least deserving survivor winner
@@kendob9642 there’s no way, she’s the only female and one out of two people to ever win twice! Thank you next 💅🏻
BEN REALLY?! He has a cool story and I thank him for his service but he’s nowhere near the best winner they’ve had.
Question was favourite, not best. So it changes the answer.
He is a very good winner because he adapted to what he had to do and he won because of it
@@binx1334 I would say survivor adapted for him and that's why he won. Chrissy was robbed.
@@keeganac They didn't introduce the fire making challenge and keep going with it just so the one guy could win. Lol
BYE JEFF. BYE
I don't know why Jeff continues to think Final 3 "makes it a little more complicated."
*The* *stats* *F3* *(n=24)* *VS.* *F2* *(n=15):*
*All three finalists at FTC received at least one vote 21% of the time (n=5) VS. Both finalists at FTC received at least one vote 93% of the time (n=14).
*17% of F3 were decided by one vote (n=4) VS. 33% of F2 were decided by one vote (n=5).
*17% of F3 were unanimous votes (n=4) VS. 7% of F2 were unanimous (n=1).
*Out of all F3 seasons, 58% of the time the runner-up gets two or less votes (0 votes: n=4; 1 vote: n=4; 2 votes: n=7). This occurs during a period where the jury is getting larger and larger (average jury size of F3 seasons: 8.9).
*Out of all F2 seasons, 60% of the time the runner-up gets two or less votes (0 votes: n=1; 1 vote: n=5; 2 votes; n=3). BUT this occurs with an average jury size of 7.2, in which a 5-2 vote is much more "stackable" and dramatic for Jeff/production (i.e., good for TV) than is a 7-2 vote that would be more common in a F3 FTC.
So, F2 is arguably more dramatic/complicated as a F3 (certainly much less likely to be unanimous, and much more likely to be decided by one vote). In addition, jury inflation is killing the drama of FTC.
as someone studying stats i respect your work ethic so much, and as a fan of survivor can we PLEASE make jeff understand this?? not only do the real fans know a final 2 is better, but the numbers do too
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As much as I admire the statistics, there is a big problem with it. In prior seasons of Survivor the jury would vote based on whatever craziness they decided. Now people are respecting more and more other's games. So, I'm not sure if F2 is actually better than F3 based on these numbers.
you desereve all the likes
So glad survivor came to my home country Kenya. It was a great season too 🇰🇪🇰🇪
Noo way Ben is his favorite winner gameplay wise
He adapted to what he had to that’s a good player
Smash Mansion never said he was bad but compared to all other 37 winners!?
He said favourite, not best. Ben is one of my favourites too even though he's a bottom 2 winner at best gameplay-wise.
really glad imdb is putting effort into survivor content. more please!
I was pleasantly surprised to have Chelsea asking the questions
yay chelsea!! you were great on rhap and so glad to see you're doing more survivor stuff at imdb
Everyone hating on Ben, yet I totally agree with Jeff. He was such an underdog, hard worker and has an amazing story
i liked Ben too, i don't know why people didn't like his season that much. When they decided to vote him off and by watching them cornered him and not talking him, it really broke his heart, i still remember, near the water fountain and this was where he entered "war" mode.
I liked the season until the fire making twist. It wasn’t rigged for Ben but it sure gave off the appearance that it was. I think the fire making twist is awful for the game
This pretty much hints Chelsea will be in second chance 2 and Im already rooting for her.
I don't even remember her.
I’m sure they’d want to bring her back. She’s a lifelong fan and applied for years and years, got cut way too early to show her true potential, and now is showing so much personality and devotion to the show after her season
What season is she from again?
Ben is a favorite of mine. Given that this is the second time I have heard Jeff single him out (Jeff was also asked who would be on his Mt. Rushmore list of Survivor players and he listed Ben) tells me that either Ben has done something extraordinary this season, or that he and Mark Burnett have a future endeavor which includes him. As a personal message to Ben....thank you, for your service and continued inspiration for others who have served. I am super excited to see how W@W pans out.
I think they just saw him become an underdog who was a target every Tribal Council and decided it would be a great arc if he made it to the end -- hence all the magical advantages that kept coming up that favored Ben exclusively.
Love this stuff
Oh, come on, Jeff. We all knew you would pick Rob.
Yes! Jeff loves Ben too ya'll! Best Survivor winner.
No
David S I liked Ben. Rooted for him since Day 1 of HHH. Rupert is a close second with Rob in third. I detest Sandra, though.
@@Raphaelkungfupanda rupert is good but Ben and rob I don't love
Sam Parker Ben’s gameplay was compelling with his back up against the wall most of the game. Rob is the Godfather, what’s not to like?
Awesome for newbies since I definitely wanted to give Survivor (and possibly Amazing Race) a try.
1. Final 3 literally has a goat almost everytime
2. Bula burger bar literally gave allison and Alec stomach problems but it did result in "is she doing yoga"
3. Ben is a wrong answer
the question was who is your favorite winner. ben isn't the wrong answer dumbass
Survivor Second Chance 2
Capri
1 Daniel season 6
2 John K season 9
3 Jeff season 10
4 Neleh season 4
5 Twila season 9
6 Mia season 9
7 Darrah season 7
Hayan
1 Tracy season 16
2 Jason season 16
3 Ashley season 22
4 Sandy season 18
5 Holly season 21
6 Sash season 21
7 Pete season 25
QiAn
1 Reed season 29
2 Garrett season 28
3 Nick season 32
4 Dean season 39
5 Lauren season 38
6 Ali season 35
7 Molly season 39
Would not of expected Ben and the way he was confident about sec chance 2 makes me thinks it's soon
I took everything in him to not say rob is his favorite winner. My personal is Todd herzog.
Am I the only one who really hopes that second chance 2 is coming soon?
I love three tribe seasons or swaps
Ben is my favourite too. I'm a veteran and he really helped me think differently and not to give up
He’s not my favorite, but I do think he played a respectable game.
@@jessekulmaczewski496 He didn't, though
@@Star_Jewel yes he did
BEN?!! BEN?!! WHAT THE
Jeff is such a Boston Rob fan
Imo ben is one of the worst survivor winners. And I don't care how good winners at war is, Heroes vs villains will always be my favourite season
So Ben wins this season right? I wish Jeff wasn't so spoilery, i remember when he spoiled in an interview that Michele won before the season even premiered.
@JustAnotherMonday vant fin id , but it was on 2015 or 2016, a live stage setting.
@JustAnotherMonday Someone at a Q&A event asked him how the game had evolved and he said, "Well, before you had to be a really strategic player to win, like Parvati. But in the sesaon we just finished, we have a player named Michelle who's like a new Parvati except she played a low-key quiet game." So it didn't explicitly say she'd win but considering she was absent from the edit at that point, it was obvious she'd have a big impact on the game in some way.
Jeff really?? Boston Rob?? THE QUEEN STAYS QUEEN ADIOS!👸
Jeff and I have very different opinions regarding winners.
second chances baby
Well that explains why they introduced the final 4 fire making challenge.
Oh and Jeff’s constant praise for men is disgusting. He will always choose Rob over Sandra even though she won twice and he had to play 4 times to win
Way to make everything about sexism. Rob practically should have won twice and practically did.
@@LAVproductions if you never noticed how sexist Probst is, you are blind. And no, Rob only once and should've won only once because thats the way this game works. 25% vs 66% yet Rob is better than Sandra, yeah right
And the season Rob won, he did so by using his celebrity as a past "Survivor" player to strong-arm everyone into 1) not talking to each other and 2) to report anytime someone suggested voting him out, or else they'd be punished. And the contestants were too star-struck/incompetent that season to counter him. It didn't even feel like a season of "Survivor."
Just because he just so happens to answer multiple questions with male answers does not mean he is sexist! Did you even hear him talk about how great Sandra was too? In fact he talked more about Sandra then rob! You’re one of those people who just make me the human race to die.
Don’t focus on how Rob won. Compare his gameplay in previous seasons to Sandra. He did a lot guys! Just because his win wasn’t his finest achievement does not mean that he’s worse than Sandra.
Jefffffffffffff!
Dude... Ben is the worst winner ever.
stfu
I'm going to be honest- I think he said Ben as a misdirect answer. because like all of this press is for season 40, so I think his real favorite winner is Parv (but she might go far this time as well) but if gets people talking about her I might make it more obvious. And his top seasons other than 40 were 2 seasons parv was in the finale. SOOOOO- possibly a thread? LOL THIS IS JUST AN IDEA PLEASE DONT ATTACK ME IM JUST THINKING LOL
like he wants the winner to be a surprise, so if he keeps her name out of his mouth as much as possible, then she is less suspected to win. and she's already set up in the story to go home like every week- which would make it more surprising if she overcomes it (sounds like a great story to me)
I bet Jeff changed his mind after Ben gave up at Final 5 in WAW.
BEN BOMB
Ben is the best winner
Really Rob? Really? Ben???????
Bring ozzy back!
Was I the only one who felt like the game was rigged for Ben to win?
no you weren't, but just like a lot of other people, you are wrong
So this is Jeff admitting that they created the final 4 fire making challenge for Ben especially. Jeff really wanted him to win because he's a war hero.
Obviously just because it's Jeff's opinion, it's wrong
Kenya, reqlly. So Jeff does like hurting the contestants
The fact Jeff thinks a F3 is better than a F2; prefers Rob to Sandra; and considers Ben his favorite winner just shows to prove how biased his rationale is -- it's disgusting
your disgusting bitch
@@lafingscarecrow Lol wow, nice comeback
@@lafingscarecrow Also, if YOU'RE going to insult me, at least use correct spelling
@@Star_Jewel i don't give a fuck about spelling when speaking the truth
@@lafingscarecrow The only truth apparent here is how ridiculous you look making unnecessary personal attacks
Oh God if Ben wins this season Im gonna vomit
lololollololollololllolololol
Ben is favourite winner? 🤥🤢
yep, your a salty bitch
jeff is so fake... OF COURSE he's doing all the press for this season... i have a feeling something went down out there and the winners arent happy about it...
Ben is a mid tier winner lmao jeff is trippin
Ben? Really? I feel like that season was scripted with that Top 4 "advantage" of Chrissy to choose someone to do fire. Nope, sorry.
the advantage was scripted in advance before the cast was even selected