The Olympics Borrows A Move From Hip Hop // .stance
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- Did you know the Olympic gymnastics uses moves originated from hip hop?
The continuous "airflare" has gotten very popular in the Olympics this year. It was first done continously in 1998 by a bboy named Pablo Flores.
Rest in Power, Pablo. Proud to be a part of this culture.
Calvin Walker bboy kokada from brazil do continuos air flare in 1996.....bboy Kokada inventou o air flare
I'm not saying he didn't, because I don't know, but if there isn't footage of him doing it continuous before the footage of Pablo doing it continuous, there's no "proof". It's like the Guinness Book of World Records. You need to have your accomplishment verified for it to become official.
@Collins Ongaya Bboy cocada q inventou o Air flare em 96,temos tudo registrado em vídeo aqui.
I like how 20 year later there’s a debate .. when no one can prove nothing.. Pablo did continuous air flairs first give him his love and stop with the bs
stn bboy that’s great but Pablo is the first to do continuous air flares never said he made up air flares
I am 40.. I can't breakdance anymore, but never knew that this guy, Pablo Flores invented it. Rest in Power, Pablo! You made our youth so much better! I hope you are in heaven teaching angels the airflare
We take flare, we give back airflare :)
All about give and take.
Kid Power Kurt Thomas came up with it in the eighties it wasn’t really considered standards gymnastics and I know who Kurt Thomas is because BBoys give props. Will Pablo be remembered by this sport or will it just become standard because gymnasts don’t mention Thomas BBoys do. I met a friend of Thomas once and it was incredible just to be that close. Will any of these gymnasts even care to meet anyone from soul control. I didn’t even here the announcers mention Bboying or Soulcontrol or Pablo. We didn’t steal it we gave props, if they give them back and admit we took it to another level they’re just representing bboying if they pretend it’s their’s yeah.. they are stealing.
It is a gymnastics move on a horse this is simply done without the horse the entry is bboy but not the actual flare itself..
@@ThatCarGuy1983 There's also gymnast flares just on the ground.
First time I saw airflares was in a videotape VHS with B-Boy Moy, and he did like 10 in a row or something. I didn't see anyone doing single or double ones and it just blew my mind seeing that move like that.
I never knew who invented air flare. Thanks for the info.
There is a video on here of Lil Alex doing air flares back in 1983....so let's get things correct. He was the pioneer.
Im sure it was somewhere in Africa ...th-cam.com/video/IIdC09KYlJU/w-d-xo.html
@@nmagain24 Doesn't prove anything regarding Airflare. Also, what year is that footage from ?? Good video.
@@MacMac1313 I was just saying that there may have been people doing flares as well, if they were doing this, anyway, it says in the clip that the vid is from 1959, in Nigeria, as some sort of celebratory dance. Its from a film archive company that. documented all kinds of shit from back in the day. Peace
Kurt Thomas
Brings a smile to any true bboy/ bgirl. Inspirational even, Thanks Stance. I would've never seen this if not for you guys.
Nice videos. People need to know who invented the continuous airflare. We need to document our history. Thanks Stance.
I’ve been a Bboy for over ten years and stopped when I went to college and never knew who invented air flares. One of the hardest moves to master I only had three. Thanks for the suggestion TH-cam #planetbboy
Quem tá ligado tá ligado, em 97 Mr. Kokada já tava fazendo o Air flare limpo, em 98 já tava fazendo para os dois lados 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Então mano saiu aqui em 95 testemunho do b.boy careca não temos registro th-cam.com/users/shortsJZB3ZHrq_lg?feature=share
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1:12 one handed airflares, 1:22 baby airflares, 1:30 hand hop 1990s. INSANE!
Exactly
@Saved by Allah there's already the one handed airflare to 2000 by bumblebee. Can't wait to see how much crazier can it get
its called Real one handed airfare. one handed airfare is different
Who's the bboy doing baby airflare?
Bboy C lil triple one handed airflare
Seems fair 🤷♂️ We took flare from them, they took air flare instead 😅
THE HEADIEST FILMS I agree except everyone knew Thomas will Pablo still be mentioned in another five years. My concern is that they will bite and pretend it’s gymnastics as usual as it’s always been. I started watching gymnastics because of bboying will it go the other way, is this good for our art form.
@@dorjedriftwood2731
Thing is, Pablo didn't create Airflares. He was the first one to do continous Airflares.
The very first Airflare was created by B.Boy Paulo Nunes (010 Breakers - Holland), back in 1989. Then B.boys like Crash Kid (Passo sul Tempo) and the one Powermover from Wedding B.Boys, improved it, back in 1996. Sadly Paulo Nunes never got mentioned anywhere, neither in the past, nor now a days.
Then The End came around and made the first one hand Airflare. Then B.Boy Typhoon was the first one to do continous one Handed airflares.
@@BeatmasterAC and benni kimoto
A big differentiation is that gymnasts do it with legs straight which adds difficulty and they care about form heavily. Also no one will give them points for doing a lot. The first few are what counts. Also they pas very close to the ground. I have tried the gymnast flate i can't do it i smack my legs and lose momentum.
are you seriously telling me most bboys can do like 30 airflares and a gymnast struggles with 2....
Viral Killer because those bboys cant do air flares with straight legs and pointed toes and transition to flares while keeping straight legs and pointed toes, doing with straight legs fully spread out with pointed toes is way harder
This is almost a decade ago. I don't know if he still trains but if he can bust out many too.
these guys can do a full planche, flares and airflares should be child's play
Viral Killer idk about bboying, but in gymnastics you only get a skill's value for the first 1 or 2 iterations, after that, it's not worth it because you don't get any value added to your routine and may risk getting points taken off
it didn't look like he struggled too much. and half bboys can't airflare at all. let alone do flare to airflare to flare with straight legs the whole time
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I was _not_ expecting someone to source it properly. Nice work!
Nice video, respect to Pablo Flores. In France we do lot of airchair and variations and this is really complicate, airflare is simple when you learn it from good bboy.
Lol ummm since the nineties..and yes Pablo was the first and I remember when two in a row was mind blowing and I’m honestly shocked it took gymnastics this long. Probably shouldn’t read in but I think they didn’t want to admit we had something they didn’t. Btw breakdancers typically use hard floor. If they are gonna bite they have so much to catch up on.
I remember Freestyle session 3 I remember meeting soul control at BBoy Summit I spent time with West Coast rockers, Style Elements, Ground Zero, Bahm Tribe, OSA, Circle of Fire, Etc.... I was just a little punk but these are the happiest memories of my childhood and I miss the scene like crazy. We constantly gave respect to Kurt Thomas and Pablo and Kujo and Crumbz and storm and anyone else that created something new. I think biting is a completely outdated concept in bboying because there is just too much being built on these days. But if gymnasts are gonna take and not give props I think you can argue this is biting. Kurt Thomas was in a movie, he got opportunities for being great. People like the red bull all stars I am confident saying A they are not paid enough and B their bodies HURT. Watching people in there thirties limp around without any sense of retirement or even recognition makes me sad but I’ve seen it. I hope this brings money to our art... a lot of people I talk too don’t even know it exists they think it died in the eighties. If people from gymnastics seek out bboying and people get sponsorships or what not good. Otherwise I am embarrassed for gymnasts biting a move that is almost thirty years old in the most vanilla way when Korea and Japan are defying the laws of pyshyics and they likely will never know the thermonuclear awesomeness BBoys put out. No trainer, No gym, No Coach, just blood and concrete.
Anyways can’t say I’m happy about it... unless it actually gets bboying recognized. Bboying is about telling a story with movement not just impressing people as an art gymnastics to me doesn’t really come close. Bboying is like jazz we play of each other we joke we clown we burn and blow up. Gymnastics they new exactly when those AFs were coming because it’s all scheduled it’s artisanship.
That's pretty much how I feel about dance in general; athletes get all the credit, but dancers are truly ambitious and crazy. I love any style of dance, and athletics I do not love, but reqiure in small doses. You mentioned clowning: that is completely absent from any sport; the fun, the freedom, the endless diversity.
Breakdancing is not really dancing; it's more like a no-rules floor routine of gymnastics on hard floor. Gymnastics is all about grace and fluid execution and real dancing is all about precision, listening to the music (and your partner) and fluidity. In breakdancing you pretend to dance for a moment and then go spastic on the floor just instinctively trying to force a bunch of difficult positions that go all over the place. It is impressive but it's not really dancing. It's a bit like the male equivalent of contortionists on talent shows pretending to be dancers only the women stay on their feet and bend themselves in impressive ways but they don't necessarily know how to dance. Dancing is not about being the fittest, strongest (breakdancing) or the most flexible (contortion) but about accuracy, coordination and timing on your feet.
Love these short clips so far, keep em coming!
Here I was watching breakdance yesterday saying 'those guys must be gymnasts, that's how they do it in the Olympics!' When you are ignorant of history, you can be convinced of almost anything....
What better bboy to demonstrate airflare evolution than Pocket. Nice pick!
Much love to both
Been waiting for bboying to just become its own event in the Olympics. It really should...
oh I have news from the future...
@@brendangordon1248 Yep
He lives through his creation. Thanks Pablo!
Classic footage right there!!
Yeye yoyo ah kmaoz!!! What's up mang!!! 😎👍🏽
What I find amazing every single time is that the human body can do stupendess moves and no one knows it... until one human innovates and does something no one imagined, and then everyone's mind gets blown right open when they realize that if this other human could do that, they can too. In a few years the move spreads out and its suddenly not special anymore and becomes more and more amazing as others build upon past innovations.
This means that the most amazing moves bboys do TODAY, will be so much MORE amazing in 10 or 20 years. Blows ones mind.
Who are not bboys but love watching bboys dance? They are superb and incredible!
legends never die
RIP, when I go to my grave, the only thing I will regret is not learning to break dance 😬😔🤦♂️😍😁😅
You should just go for it and learn!! Tons of tutorials on TH-cam
Then learn it 😐
It’s never too late to try it
Same
It's never too late. Go for it!
bless yo soul yo and thank you for your inovation to hip hop r.i.p fam#HIP HOP FOR LIFE👊👌✌✊
Airflare created by many creative dancers in america and europe, but an original move not done before by martial artists, capoeira dancers, acrobats, or gymnasts. Much respect soul control crew and pablo flores👍 . True innovators
That was hella clean and amazingly low! Keep it up, your doing great.⁵👍
Rest In Peace Brother. Bboy Salute!
Im Glad this video was published, we should ALL know whom this move comes from, BIG RESPECT to Pablo!
Brasil 1995
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Each Culture, Teach Culture!
que eu sei. e que foi o cocada que fez primeiro..(Brasil)
The flare was first seen in 1978 by its originator Kurt Thomas and the bboy culture with the exploitation within the media had borrowed this from the gymnasts. Yes bboy culture definitely advanced this move but let’s give credit where credit’s due it was Kurt Thomas who first did the flare and the air flare.
And much harder to do with good form.
Kurt Thomas didn't make air flares, only flares
Breakdanced & popped back in the 80’s when flaring from gymnastics became a breakdancing move. Pretty cool to see a breakdancing move now integrated in gymnastics.
It came from gymnastics the flare is a move you do on the horse.. He simply took it and improvised without the horse i suspect a lot of them watched some form of gymnastics for inspiration..
As long as they keep the name as "Airflares", it is okay for gymnastics to use it. The only other acceptable name would possibly be "Air Flores" In memory (and immortalizing the name) of Pablo Flores.
0:58 Is anyone else mildly annoyed that the crowd reaction is little to none after seeing air flares for the first time?
Stinky Whizzletooth not the first time announcers new it was coming clearly part of his routine... much more concerned the announcement did mention its origins. Since they don’t even mention Kurt Thomas anymore I don’t express them to remember they didn’t invent the move in another few years. Biting doesn’t really exist in bboying IMO but that’s a bite if you steal a move from another art and don’t give props. Even Thai boxers give props to western boxing. And if you wanted to learn flares in the nineties half the time you we’re looking up Thomas Flares. To this day everyone at least understands it was gymnastics... BTW the pointed toes on gym flares is not so pretty to me and I bet it’s a good part of the reason they were hard for the gymnast because airflares are directly related to flares but if you’re not kicking your toes up it definitely makes you sit lower. Just a theory.
Point being I grew up in Santa Ana I remember Soul Control, Style Elements, Ground Zero, West Coast Rockers etc etc. and back then every bboy knew who Kurt Thomas (inventor of flares was) They announcers didn’t even mention bboying or breakdancing. They coined the term airflare like they made it up. I sincerely hope bboying gets some recognition as being legitimately the hardest sport in the world because if a mid nineties move is big news they have so catching up to do. Hope Hip Hop as a full culture gets props.
@@dorjedriftwood2731 Named moves in gymnastics are named not after the person who invents them, but after the first person to use them in competition.
Crowd reaction is not the same as in a hip-hop circle. Also maybe they didn't even understand what was going on
PABLO HV THE MOST CHARMING AIRFLARE EVER
The flare (Thomas Flare) is something hiphop borrowed from gymnastics. Decades later in HipHop they used aspects of the flare to create the air flare. Years later gymnasts borrowed the air flare for floor competition. Even though the air flare isn’t popular in gymnastics and no one attempts it anymore due to no point advantage an air flare brings to the current judging system in gymnastics.
It could change if the method to score the floor exercise changed but I highly doubt it.
It goes to show how talented these b boys are where an Olympic gymnast says it was one of the hardest moves he's had to learn and only did 2
He can probably do more than two in practice. No point in competition. You only have limited time, and won't gain many marks for showing the same skill multiple times.
@@qwertyTRiG Probably, I mean I watch a video of a famous gymnast(can't remember the name) learn airflares but coulden't seem to do more than 2 but idk.
@@TheLocalKook Watch the pommel horse lads. They've been doing the move a lot longer than the hip hop dancers have been.
@@qwertyTRiG the problem with comparing it to the pommel horse is that in breaking it's literally called the "virgin flare" and is an easier variation of the flare and an airflare is an even harder variation so yes they have been doing it for ages but not to the extent of breakers and it's not too far off to say its believable that he can only do 2
HOLY SHIT! That is old video from Freestyle Session! RIP Pablo!
I remember after Pablo did it, the scene exploded with everyone trying to do it. LA Breakers, Havikoro, all the Koreans.
R.i.p Pablo.
Pablo Flores was not the first one who did continues airflares. The first one was Bboy Kokada from Brazil, he did it in 1997
Creation and continuity was the kokada bboy.
kokada fazia pros 2 lados em 98
Awesome video mate. Never knew Pablo was from Fresno!!?! Wow of all places
growing up and gettin into breakin in the late 90s i always wondered why gymnasts never threw an airflare in the routine.. seemed like crowd pleaser lol. cool to see sum props being given
Breaking was going to be a demonstration sport in the upcoming olympics. I believe in 2024.
It should be in every Olympics
bboy Kokada from brazil (daqui do brasil) ja fazia air flare em 1996
bboy Kokada create airflare in 1996...
proof ?
e ele ja fazia para ambos lados
Maybe. But how can you show it?
Esses caras estão bem ultrapassados, 1997 in Brasil all make it for two sides.
we're not talking about air-tracks, also we're talking _continuous_
Keeping the legacy alive.👏🏽
Si, Pablo Flores creo ese movimiento (Airflares).... Lo que se conoce aquí en México como airtrack, DE HECHO LE HACEN UN HOMENAJE EN UN FREE STYLE SESSION 8 EN UN EVENTO DE BREACK DANCE EN EL QUEEN MARY UN BARCO ESTADOUNIDENSE........ Y SI PABLO FLORES, RESPECT 👍🏼🇲🇽...... APORTÓ ALGO MUY FUNDAMENTAL EN EL BREACK DANCE Y A LOS BBOYS....
Brasil ano 1996
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Pablo??
Mr Kokada Who Invented the Airflare 1997 Brazil
yes cocada .
The single airflare actually came around 1984 with Sidewalk Breakers in the USA. Continuous was Pablo in 1998. All the videos of Kokada have been not continuous prior to 1998.
Airflare wasn't invented by Pablo (or Mr. Kokada for that matter), but Pablo accomplished and establish the techniques continuous Airflares in its modern form today.
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1149566758448254&id=100001848212716 what about multiple airflares of Logo in 1997?
Leandro Molina MarTins yes Brother Bboy Kokada created AIRFLARE in 1996
now bboys are reaching the double airflare🔥🔥🔥
flares always reminded me of looking like an advanced open-floor styling similar to the pummel horse which has been around for a while
Rest in power Pablo flores❤🙏
O maluco leva o merito mais qem criou isso foi os brasileiro
Sergio marcio lima ISSO MESMO PARCEIRO. FOI O BRASILEIRO *BBOY KOKADA* QUE FEZ O PRIMEIRO AIR FLARE EM 1996 E OS CARAS FALAM Q FOI CRIADO EM 1998 POR ESSE PABLO
In 1998 bboy kokada from brazil already doing airflare of two sides
the kokada was already developing this movement in 1995
you got video of this? if not, we can call it bullshit.
Bullshit
There is a video on here of Lil Alex doing air flares back in 1983....so let's get things correct. He was the pioneer.
show the evidence
@@alanhdzals4961 i have a lot videos of the bboy Kokada doing airflare in 1993
1996/1997 B.Boy Kokada já fazia airflare se não me engano, Brasileiro foi os primeiros a fazer airflare, detalhe: Dois lados.
Faziam sim até antes já faziam yth-cam.com/video/qk2lpfSonsw/w-d-xo.html
Rest in Power pablo torres ... let's go B-boy Thriler from Dominican Republic
imagine how much hype if bboy Poket or Junior lol these people would of been super Famous
Gabriel Wolff but too bad bboy pocket was in elementary school in 2008
Dayveon Harris doesn't Matter bro he would be in the video tho for being too beast
just keep those flares to 2 or 3 times a set to keep the style fresh and healthy
Go on youtube and search for longest airflare battle. One or two of them did 40 airflares and a few others over 20 and 30....
RiP thanks for the innovation
Yeah, no.
The story I heard, someone saw an obscure vhs tape of some guy trying to do the air track.
It was the Koreans who were the first to perfect it and complete it's form
Informative video, can you guys please provide the track you use for the background?
But hip-hop borrowed the flare/Thomas Flair from gymnastics
and?
Actually it originates, as does the windmill and several other maneuvers, with the Afro-Brazilian martial are capoiera....
Yeah thats why its still called flare in breakdancing.
Kevin Wicke the real name is Flair (because that’s his real last name) but they changed the spelling to flare
thats why its important that we respect each other rather than saying bboy>gymnast, "ooh we bboys can do this and that with ease, gymnast aint shit" etc
Cant wait to see this in Olympics
all respect but was the guys here in brazil that created and do it first. bboy kokada R.I.P
Lmao imagine if MCing at jams was like this: "this is that...'airflare'." "Wow so cooool"
RIParadise Pablo! your saga will continue! peace
those pointy toe airflares the gymnast did super clean though form was on point.
@Bboy Powers I don't like the pointy toes either, just my preference. Looks not "street" enough or something
rest in power bro....
Gymnastic flare is so much more beautiful. Has straight legs and pointed toes.
Wait till he hits the elbow airtrack!🔥
na onde os cara no br fazia em 92 mano
was Mrs Kokada !!!!!!
They did continuous? Or just one?
@@TheJofrica B.BOY KOKADA .B.BOY DEDE air flare dominated 1996 BRASIL, for two sides th-cam.com/video/hMbXt376YfM/w-d-xo.html
Was that bboy pocket?
i believe the record is 47 airflares
Mr.kokada ja fazia pro os 2 lados o bboy alemão prova isso no canal de( powertubemover)
Isso é verdade
Verdade
We can fly, we just don't know it yet.
Nice, the commentators actually referred to it as the airflare :)
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Some serious respect to Pablo for his innovation and drive! I think the debate on who got to TWO or multiple will always be up in the air(pun intended!!!) Texas during that time was the power move hub of the world and guys like Moy, Boy, Nightcrawler, Qreus and pretty much all of Down 2 Rock and many many more(please forgive me for missing a ton of names!) prove that! You can watch Beats and Peices ‘98 (on TH-cam) that showcases multiple airfares as well! No disrespect or anything like that I just think its very difficult to claim the first when it comes to certain things, this being one of them! VHSs were always coming out like a year after the event happened so that made it difficult then as well. Anyways, he definitely left his mark in our culture!
Brasil 1995
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Gonna be nice to finally see B-boys in olympics games.
First HIP HOP borrowed the Thomas Flare then innovated it now its back to gymnastics.......there are also One handed versions and elbow versions and even Air Chair variations !
Hehe sooo don't copy this move anymore like one handed airflare , elbow airfare , turlte airflare, lostus airflare , tornado airflare bboy r one who created it ohhh... Sorry but gymnastics can,t this kind of move anymore
simply beautiful
Excellent thank you
Really?!! Air Flare hard to learn for a Gymnastics practician?, you guys do really technical and complex stuff, I can't believe he found airflare to be hard. XD
@Bboy Powers Chill dude.
I don't think you understand how difficult airflares are :/
Entiendanlo porfavor, hacer un airflare es relativamente "facil" (muy entre comillas) pero hace un airflare con tecnica, correcta amplitud de piernas y casi exclusivamente fuerza es mucho mas pesado de hacer.
Hip hop???????? Break dance brother!!!!!!!
Rest in power.
And He is only 6 years doing the air flares anyone knows why is dead already??
Gimnasta que aprecia el break!!! Vamooos!!!
Gracias Pablo flores!
RIP PABLO! STYLE ELEMENTS!
gymnasts should also make videos about the "flare move' borrowed by the hip hop community (b-boys)
to me Pablos AF looks better than most bboys versions today