Brompton Marathon Plus 101 - tool free installation
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- We started making Brompton related videos for TH-cam two whole years ago!
Our first video was to show how easy a Marathon Plus tyre was to install
But back then we were too scared to speak or show ourselves
So we didn't necessarily explain the technique as well as we could have - so - to celebrate 2 years and 100 videos - we made this one, Marathon Plus 101!
Hopefully the film and sound quality has also improved over time - though the number of outtakes doesn't seem to get better
we must make a big Statue to you for the help that you give us with each video THANK YOU
Thank you for watching!!! We really appreciate it!
Ok... I now know how to remove and refit both tyres, reinstall the chain tensioner (2 goes at this) ... and after several hours of huffing and puffing, install Marathon plus tyres (strangely one took about 2 hours and the other about 10 minutes ... no idea why! I followed the instructions both times). I now have blisters the size of golf balls on both thumbs and have lost the use of my fingers! I’m going to have a very large glass of wine, or maybe the entire bottle!Top tip ... remove your best jumper before starting 😥. Seriously, thank you so much for your videos, I couldn’t have done it without you. (I might just go to the bike shop next time though ... cheaper than a new jumper!)
Thank you so much for your comment - hope the wine was nice! Sorry about the blisters!
You have to admire a young slip of a girl ;-) ... who can wrangle a tyre on with her bare hands !!
Nice to be called a tyre wrangler 👌😀
2024 Now 29+K subscribers. Then? Two years in, at 7K. Congratulations! Love, love your so very helpful, and comprehensive channel. Thank you so much ♥️♥️🥳🎶
Thank you so much! And thank you for watching! I feel we are so close to 30k with is terrifying! I can’t imagine talking to that many people in one go!
I am so pleased. Following this video I put brand new marathon plus tyres on my brompton today.. I have two massive blisters on my thumbs but I did it!
So glad it helped. Next time I’m sure you’ll manage it with out the blisters.
Thank you for watching
I can't get past the first edge 😢
Amazing！Still cannot do it😮💨
Thank goodness you put the outtakes in otherwise (having battled for two hours with my new tyres) I'd be disliking this video for how simple you made this look!
lol! Thanks for watching!
The first version of this video it was actually the first time I fitted a Marathon Plus
It would be great a long term comparison video of Continental vs Schwalbe One! :)
Great idea!
What’s the significant difference between these and marathon racer??
The Plus have more robust construction, and are more puncture resistant.
I am very pleased with my Plus tyres. I ride a lot in the dark and I feel very reassured with them fitted, I feel I do not need eagle-eyes for glass fragments or other troublesome road debris.
They are heavier though. Which may or may not matter to you. Does not matter to me as I do not carry the bike folded much, other than in/out of house or car.
I felt slightly more confident in the wet with the Racers than the Plus, but I have become more cautious - not a bad thing really 😃
My kinda girl can wrestle a tyre on with her bare hands. Great! But can this lady kick-start some Jumbos round at Heathrow? Their batteries have gone flat through lockdown. ;-)
Really helpful video - and great service from your shop thank you.
Many thanks for watching, choosing to use us and for your comment, we really appreciate it.
the "original" was the most tense video i ever watched on youtube... Will she do it? There's no way! oh my god she did it!!!! BAREFOOT!
Lol. Thank you so much and it really was my first time installing a Marathon Plus! It was a lovely warm day!
Thank you for watching!
Thank you also. I told it again. For me It is THE channel for Brompton. I think no other bike manufacturer has such a wonderful, helpfull advertising in the www. With the tires on my Alex Moulton AM I have a lot of pain when a change is necessary. Its a torture to fit the tire on the 17 Zoll AM wheel. I have panic before! But maybe I do something wrong.I never have this problem with my Brompton. I think a lot of your followers here in TH-cam will thank you and support your work. I know there is a possibility "to buy a cup of coffee" at an other channel. Please think about to offer a possibility to give a donation for your work.
Thank you so much for your comments, the fact it helps us the donation 😀
That’s brilliant as your name clearly suggests, can’t wait to try that out as I’ve always struggled with the Marathons on the Brompton. Keep on with the outtakes also, they have become a nice addition to your videos 🎥👌🌞
Thank you so much for watching and the comment
You talk about repairs and what kind of different Brampton bikes there are but you missed out 1 critical thing and that is bike Insurance what kind and should we really have insurance yes we should and what kind of package insurance out there I have Autism and dyslexia I don’t have any support but I manage and struggle but I think you doing theys videos could help lot of people like my self out there because your videos are fantastic
We always think it’s best to take your Brompton with you, so love it as much as possible- ours are house bikes 😀
That's exactly what I did to my new Swytch wheel which I have received earlier today with my new Schwalbe Marathon Plus with new Schwalbe inner tube purchased from Brilliant Bikes. No tools are needed.
Wohoo! It’s kind of easy when you know the technique. Thank you!
Well done! there was a moment when I started to think you had lost your way - but no - you got there! It's not hard to find people complaining about how hard to fit these tyre can be, but there always seems to be someone around who can do it. I've got them in three sizes, I think , and happy to confirm - as long as you get the rest of the bead into the well youi'll be fine. New tyres are much stiffer than used ones and warming them sounds like a great idea - Thanks for that one!
I've enjoyed several of your videos but perhaps this is the occasion to compliment you on your technique. You have long nails (absolutely your choice) yet you can fit a tyre without breaking them. I'm so impressed - I couldn't!
I loved watching your video even though I don't own a bike.
Thank you so much!
the behind the scenes video is the actual truth of getting the marathon plus on the small brompton wheels. so dont ever say that is it is "easy" or "simple" just for the camera
Ah but it is simple when you get the hang of it 👌😀
I’m getting a Brompton 😊
Wohoo!
And here you did it again!! Make this (for us, earthlings) struggle job, explain and just make it a piece of cake. Always a joy to look at your video's. thank you!
Thank you so much!
Thanks for the video. How did you like the Continental tires, and how do they compare to the Plus, especially the resistance to getting flats? Thanks.
Many thanks for the comment. We really like the Continental’s and so far have found them good - no punctures yet, tine will tell!
I think you'll find that the ease of fitting ( or otherwise ) may well depend on the age of your bike and the rims used in the build. Also the age of your tyres etc . Rims marked as the same size often differ enough in size (between manufacturers or production runs etc ) that even with great technique and gorilla grip thumbs you will sometimes still struggle to fit a tyre without levers on some combinations . It is not always just about getting the bead into the bottom of the rim well to get some slack although undoubtedly that will make a big difference if you were not previously aware of that technique. The hardest combinations may require levers and toe straps or similar ( to stop the bead popping off as you force the last few inches over the rim wall ). Tyre lube will also make it a lot easier of course and can be carried in a small leak proof container to aid puncture repairs .
Thanks for watching and for your comment. We are talking specifically about Brompton and their tyres. We have never had an issue with any age Brompton tyres / rims
@@brilliantbikes Thanks for replying ...Perhaps I'll send you my set ..original factory rims on 2003 T6 , together with my Marathon plus tyres and perhaps you can video fitting them by hand . I have 50 plus years of fitting tyres ..all sizes on all wheel sizes and have rarely needed lube / levers or warming them up ....even in winter . The technique you demonstrate is common knowledge amongst cycling enthusiasts who work and fix their own bikes and has been used for nearly 100 years. Perhaps my set are particularly stubborn and inflexible ...a bit like myself !.( as they are quite old..again like myself ! )but being in visually good condition I continue to use them which involves occasional removal/refitting . I don't think they were particularly hard to fit originally but they are certainly very difficult now ..even with levers and a very thin rimstrip ....hence my original comment . IME newer rubber is more elastic normally ...but with time can harden /dry up and be a pain ( and should ideally be changed anyhow ) It was just a comment to point out that anyone wondering why they can't do it easily ..( as you demonstrate ) ...despite copying your instruction, may be failing because of the issues mentioned above not because of poor technique !
Is the dianamo wheel a Brompton part and can it be ordered
Brilliant bikes have them on their website.
Thanks for this video! 👍
Happy 100th anniversary. Your videos get better and better (so do the outtakes). How about a video on adjusting the gear shifter from high to low with an explanation on how the chain pusher works?
Many thanks - the derailleur we did a little while ago-is this what you meant?
R u still using the Marathon Plus...
Currently running the Continentals on one bike 😀
I want to purchase a Brompton women’s bag that will match my purple bike. We don’t have any place in Hawaii, USA. Can you suggest a website or store that I can check out? Love your videos. I’ve learned a lot watching your videos.
Excellent video, thank you! How about a video on common Brompton creaks and squeaks and what to oil and what not to oil?
Many thanks for the idea - any squeaks you are most worried about?
You made that look easy, I’ve just ordered a marathon plus to replace the racer that was on my bike. I had planned a nice 10 mile ride out today but just one mile in I rode past a pub and my tyre got shredded on glass ggrrr
Many thanks for watching! It’s not too bad at all. Whilst it’s warm pop it in the sun to warm up 😀
@@brilliantbikes I will do 😁
Hair drier warm up if not sunny ?
Thanks for watching!
I’d say in the sun or by a radiator!
I like your channel
A question, if you were to start opposite the valve and finish up at the valve ..... would that allow the tyre rim more space to enter the well
Just asking 🙂
Douglas
Great video ! It's only taken me 45 years to find out how to do this. Thanks...How about a video on how to grease the bearings on a Brompton electric front wheel ?
Many thanks! 😀
I have a question for the specialists 😬
Do you think the Brompton will ever get a Gates Drive belt in the near future instead of the standard chain?
(Just dreaming out loud though)
Belt tension is a real problem, even with a strong tensioner. Also Gates belts don't bend in sharp enough angles for the Brompton folds.
Take a look at Kinetics Bike in Glasgow. He does Gates conversions. www.kinetics-online.co.uk/folding-bikes/brompton/brompton-belt-drive/
thanks for the tip! I will also use it on my Claud Butler Dalesman touring bike..
It can be easier if you start on the opposite side to the valve as the tyre drops more easily into the well. Roll the tyre onto the rim with the palms of you hands...it will save stress on fingers ..and protect your nail varnish! Well done.
Brilliant! Loving the outtakes.
It’s not the outtakes that’s meant to be useful, it’s the rest 😂. Thank you
@@brilliantbikes But they're as good as the rest!! Makes you seem much more human and approachable!! Which you are. Of course. :D
congratulations!
Thank you!!
Thank you for your interesting tip to push the valve into the rim before putting in the the last bit of the first bead, and then popping it out again for the last part of the second bead. I'll try that next time.
Another useful tip I learnt is to let a bit of air out if you're having trouble getting the last bit of the second bead in. With the Marathon+ I find it is best to let out as much air as possible for that last part. It makes this difficult final step much easier.
One man’s Brompton is another man’s PS5.
Well fit tire!
Thank you and thank you for watching
Well done !
Thank you!
That was great fun! Cheeky smile and wry laugh made for the most enjoyable presentation, Still didn't convince my wife that she could do this though... One tip, cheap silicone spray on the inner tube and tyre beads will make this a breeze, and yes, keep it off the braking surfaces, or clean with Isopropyl alcohol which everyone seems to have now.
Never tried this sounds interesting!
I'd like to see how you guys commute in the snow with bromptons. Like what kind of tires and what you wear to shield yourself from the elements, etc.
On their Ski vs Brompton challenge video they used studded Schwalbe Winter tyres.
Thanks! I'll look it up!
@@Rob-cv3vh Now that IS a difficult tyre to fit 😠.
It’s not to bad- a little a marathon plus… but spickey
My first flat tire today on 2023 P-Line Electric. Luckily it was the front one. This video was a great help in getting the tube replaced and all back together - THANK YOU!!!
So glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
I have changed one rear tube and two front tubes on two Bromptons. The last front was a bear to get the tire bead seated on the rim. Your video makes it look easy, but it was anything but easy for me.
So sorry - it gets easier with practise
Best Brompton channel!
Thank you!!!
Piracy ALERT !! For some reason, only known to the person concerned, this video has been pirated by "Andy Holbrook" and re-released today, with any mention of Brilliant Bikes deleted.
Why on earth would anyone bother to do this ???
Many thanks for letting us know! Sorry for the delayed reply!
What's really impressive is that you have manicured long(ish) fingernails. I can't even get the tyre off.
Thank you so much for watching and noticing my nails 😀. It really is all about the technique!
Can I use a size tire 16 x 1.75? Will it rub to the fender? I hope you can answer my question soon. Anyways love your videos! Thanks for the future answer.
No so sorry it will be too wide and rub on the frame and mudguards. Unless you convert to wider forks / rear triangle
Thank you so much! I genuinely thought I had the wrong tyre size and was about to return the Marathon Plus until I watched this video.
I had a Kenda tyre on previously and it is quite different to fit onto a Brompton wheel.
Phew! They are tricky to begin with! But once you know how, super simple!
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
I use the 700c versions of these and am so grateful I don't have to change them very often, this video will certainly help me the next time I do, thank you so much 😃
Thanks for watching! Hope it helps!!!
This video saved my life (sort of). After buying a new set of Schwalbies and tubes and after getting the old tyres off that last bit with the first new tyre was making me go batty as I was struggling to get it over the rim and so of course I went to TH-cam for help and one video was ok but THIS ONE revealed that neat trick with getting the bead into that central trench in the rim allowing just enough extra slack to pop the tyre over that last tricky bit and I was so happy and the second tyre was done in a fraction of the time so now everything is back on the bike and I just have to adjust that rear gear thing. THANKS!
So so glad it helped! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Hi there, I tried to inflate my tires first time ever with a track pump. The recommended pressure is 65-100 but after 50’s the tires become rock hard and not sure should I keep pumping or not. Any ideas? Thanks ton
65 - 100 is quite hard. But try taking the pump head off to make sure it’s on and measuring correctly- hope that helps
One thing I would add, about ensuring the tyre is evenly seated.
Once fitted on the rim, and before reinstalling on the bike, I find that pumping up to max pressure (110 psi in the case of the Plus) helps to ensure the tyre is evenly seated all round the rim. So, I inflate to max (I use a JoeBlow track-pump), and check all is nicely seated. I then deflate almost completely, leaving enough air to ensure the tyre holds position on the rims, and with a little persuasion this allows the tyre to pass between the brake blocks for reinstallation.
Out on the road, if using the Brompton standard pump, it will not be possible to get such a high pressure to seat the tyre, so it is a matter of doing the best possible and if necessary review tyre seating etc when back home🙂
I use this procedure on all my bikes, not just the Brompton.
Thanks so much for the useful comments
I would like to watch a video about how to replace all stock rusting bolts , restore the seat post rusting, prep for touch painting. Fixing all known quality issues of this wonderful bike.
Great ideas thanks
How about showing us how to apply Helicopter Tape to a Brompton. Great video by the way.
Where would you like to see it applied to? Great idea
Followed the instructions and the tyre went on easily. No swearing or blood for a change. Great clear video, yet again
So glad it helped, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
Very well done. I’ve fixed bikes for many years and I still learn things. How about different bike bells?
Great idea
Can I just say how useful this video has been? I’ve just swapped my Schwalbe Kojaks for Marathon Plus - and it probably took me longer to get my garage door to close properly than it did to fit the tyres! Thank you! 👏🏻👍🏻
Thank you too!
Good job Hannah, and without a single swear word (on camera anyhoo!)... ✅ 👏🏻 😂
Whoops
Impressive! I never thought that this is possible without any tools. But with the right technique everything seems possible 👍🏻
(the sound of the garden waterfall is a bit disturbing 😎)
Sorry for the 💧
Informative and entertaining as usual, I missed where the direction of rotation marks are on the tyre, was there an arrow or something? Maybe if you showed your twin I'd have more chance of seeing this.
Sorry for the delayed reply, yes there is a rotational arrow on the tyre
Thanks for this video. I just fitted my first Marathon Plus and when I got stuck on the last part I thought there must be a knack to doing it. Using your method feels like magic when it pops on at the end with hardly any effort. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for the comment, so glad the video helped!
Liked the video, tyre fitting is rarely as hard as you think it will be. I could not help but notice that your ability to catch is exactly the same as my wife's, which made me smile.
Catching it’s impossible! Tyre fitting that’s fun!
I love all your videos, the extra at the end are very funny as well. keep it up.
Thank you so much for watching and for the lovely comment
Helpful video, thank you -- I need to do this job x2 this weekend.
Hope it went well!
That was the most charming tyre change video I have ever seen. Let’s get married!
Many thanks! Maybe our next video should be on baggage… 😜
Thanks for this video. Are there any plans to try Tannus tubeless tires?
We considered it, but still thinking about it as the negatives are high
Love this woman so much whimsy and mischief...
Lol thank you 😊 😀😊😆
Brilliant 👏🏻
Thanks so much for watching!
@@brilliantbikes I really love your technique; I still needed cable-ties today to get that last bit of the bead in - it’s a nightmare 😱😊
You rescued my weekend! Thanks a lot 👍
Really glad this saved your weekend 😀! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Love your videos ..... so charming😉
Thank you so much
does the new tyre rub against your mud guard compare to marathon racer?
Hi realhass - my Plus initially did, rear only. To qualify - had only occasional issues with Racer pumped to 65 front 105 rear. When I fitted the Plus, I pumped 75 front 110 rear and the rear did rub on first ride. I let the rear pressure down to 100 and had no further rubbing issues. But the clearance is very tight so I anticipate a little accumulated winter dirt could see some occasional rubbing return. The mudguard stays may have enough standard kink in them that with a bit of judicious “straightening” that could be cured too 😃
Adrian LW thanks, in that case I’ll stick with racers I guess im gonna have to ride it with repair kit.
No we found it fine
Sun CR18 rims are rather more difficult in my experience. Do you have any tips to make that an easier job?
EDIT: I have fitted two Marathon Plus in the past week, front and rear, both on CR18 rims. I don't even try to do it without tools due to arthritis in both thumbs. I found the Kool Stop Tyre Bead Jack to be invaluable. Both tyres went on first try without too much effort.
Thanks for the info - no, sorry we have never tried on those rims
yes .. shoes on or off you show us how it can be done with ease xxx
Thanks for the long term watching!
you are the people's legend! playing Pulp now
Thank you!
Marvellously simple when you show how!
And we really hope we shared the simplicity
Can you do mine please, I will mail it to you😀
😂 top tip, let it warm up before you fit it, in the sun (unlikely at the moment in the UK) or by a radiator.
Thanks for watching and commenting- have fun 😀
Thanks again for sharing!!!
Our pleasure, thank you for watching!
Nice one!
Thanks!
This seems elementary and maybe someone can help me with this. When flying with a Brompton, do you deflate the tires, as per some of the airline policies ask? Once you arrive do you pump them up with the Brompton pump or do you find a bike shop? What's everyone's travel workflow and what equipment do you bring with you?
I brought mine abroad in a b&w folding box. Worked out perfectly for me. I did not deflate my tyres and brought just the small Brompton pump for emergencies
I’ve done both - forgotten to deflate and they were OK and taken a pump with me. Some cities, like Stockholm have pumps on the streets
Good thumbs 👍
This woman actually shows how exceedingly therapeutic it is to instal a bicycle tyre. What joy!
😀thank you! Yes we agree
Another great video. Please can I ask for your views on how you maintain your chain after riding in the rain? Do you dry and re-apply wet Lub or do you fully degrease chain after every wet ride or for that day? I’m also considering waxing my chain, but am put off with removing my chain to soak for hours and I know the quick release is not designed to do this regularly. Would love for your views on this and what you do - Thanks.
Thanks for watching and your comment.
Good question! Our chain maintenance is the same between our MTB and Bromptons. The MTBs get more abuse/dirt. We generally clean / dry the chain, trying to remove as much dirt and grease with a cloth. Then apply Pedros lube (just on the rivets) so not too much, allow to soak for an hour and the clean with a dry cloth. We do degrease the chainset but less frequently.
brilliantbikes That’s great - Thank you.
This is not a volume friendly vid for coffee shops even with headphones on full blast )-:
turn on subtitles?
So sorry!
I can't believe how much money the middle class bikers are willing to pay for tyres
Happy anniversary! Just wanted to say a big thank you especially for all your detailed videos about the bits and pieces like the deraileur, hub, gearing etc... Really a fantastic resource for those hoping to either just maintain or upgrade their bromptons.
Thanks Hank you so much!
I usually run Marathon tyres, but fitted a Marathon Plus yesterday. V stiff tyres and harder than normal Marathons, but put on using this technique and no tyre levers. Thanks v much.
So glad they went on OK! Thank you for watching!
@@brilliantbikes yes. Not the easiest but I’m hoping for fewer punctures. I had two yesterday!
Would it be possible to feature less water feature sound effects.