As youth minister I always wanted to make sure our ministry was not an events ministry but a life change/ seed planting, along with building Kingdom in our young ppl ministry. This was a huge challenge with leadership at one ministry I was at. I had to really trust God with the Vision that He had given me.
It's not just the youth department. All of church has been water down. Not even the adults want a sermon more than 20 minutes although just because a sermon is a hour doesn't mean it's full of the spirit. I'm not against making things creative and fun but make sure people are learning and let's not forget we need to be studying and reading on our own. A service should not be the only spiritual learning your getting. Your every day life can be full of God teaching you and using you. It sticks with me through those God experiences then just get preached at
It has ticked me off for years! I served and led youth Ministries. When I wanted to introduce more word and discipleship, I got quietly out voted, removed, and replaced. The youth ended up with more pizza, more ice cream, and more games, and less word. On top of that the replacement that they had, didn't even stay. That Youth Department ended up getting shut down. It truly was a shame. Fortunately, before all this went down I made it my business to teach from the pulpit, from the book of Romans expositionally, over the course of a decade. I was determined that not just the youth, but everyone that heard from me was going to get proper Doctrine. By God's grace, a number of those youth have gone on forward in the Lord and in their lives, doing well in their career paths, would some of them marrying and having children of Their Own. #giveEmtheGospel #keepgoingfwd
At my church, we don’t do the games.. we have dinners together, but we have always been focused on these young people encountering authentic Jesus… And the change I’ve seen and the life that is in their hearts and eyes for Jesus is unlike I’ve seen at any other youth group…
FACTS!!! This happens in my home church. My son is hungry for the word because I feed him it at home. They have 2 worship songs and a 15 minute message. It’s sad.
Agreed. They need to be discipled and preached to. They have to be prepared with the Word and the presence of God in order to make an impact in their generation. It's on us to prepare them!!!!
Every one of his reels I have watched has been solid. Dropping some serious truth bombs about the messed up broken church we are trying to import around the world. Keep preaching, brother! May the Will of God and the Word of God and the Spirit of God reign supreme in our lives!
Amen! I was a youth pastor for 2 years, and the youth thrive on learning the Word and flounder on the fluff of entertainment! Preach the Word and answer their questions Biblically.....they want to grow Spiritually.
Pulled my kids from a youth group here and there over our lifetime for basically being a “play date for teens” on Wednesday night. Can’t ever reach out to their “youth leaders” because they had a new one ever other week. Wasting my sons time. No thank you. Where they go now, their is teaching of a lifestyle and deep relationship with Father God! They can text or call their youth pastor when in a bind or just for a chat! God has blessed us deeply with the ministry we found.
Yeah when I did youth group at a church in my hometown we would only do 30 mins of teaching and or movie of some kind and then let us play around for an hour. I enjoyed it as a kid but I was spiritually unprepared as an adult.
😭😭😭 This right here. I’m a mom of 4 boys. I’ve been in church since 10 years old. Youth ministry was EVERYTHING for me growing up. I was young youth worker by 15/16. We had gang member coming to youth services bawling at our alters. I saw young peoples live changed and now they are conditioned to believe there is no hope. Accept yourself and others in the sinful state you’re in. My heart can’t take it
I say this too. My grand kids played basketball and danced and just hung out in church. I am not saying this to be rude. I am so concerned for the youth and the babies. They need a class for ages 5 to 10 yrs old and 11 to 13 years old. 14 to 17 yrs old. But only if they are going to teach them. I think that these classes are needed for the youth to grow. We need more teachers in the church. Qualified teacher. Called by God and prepared by God and sent by God. Teachers that are led by God's Spirit; understanding and know the word. Because our children are suffering because of this. They got issues and questions that they need answers as well.
Totally agree that you need a balanced youth ministry. I don't think the answer is longer messages although I think it's fine if you do speak longer. I think it's building relationships and helping them to apply the message to their lives. I personally try not to speak over 20-30 min and have our small group leaders follow up on relationship and discipleship. Do we know our students, what they're going through, what they're struggling with? Speaking at them for an hour won't help you with that.
These youths they are spoiled for too much choices in life , they want everything and anything right now, instant gratification , it’s no wonder their attention span is so short. We need the Holy Ghost revival for this generation of Christ today 😮😮😮
I used to be a part of a large church that does this. I stopped interacting with the youth for many reasons including the music played. It’s heart breaking
This is usually the reason young people are unprepared for the world when they become adults. If I didn't have a strong hunger and a firm foundation in the Lord, I would've been so lost when I got to college. So many people I grew up with who are Christian have double lives because they were TOLD to be instant in season and out of season, but we're never SHOWN HOW TO ACTUALLY WALK THIS WALK OUT IN REAL LIFE!!! 😞🤦🏾♀️
Youth ministries really need to focus more on ministry. Youth are playing games all the time, spend time discipling, strengthening friendships, and teaching them how to evaluate the world through Scripture. Youth ministers need to be a mentor, not a game leader. (So thankful for my youth ministry).
I was a youth pastor for 25 years and it's sad. So sad that too often this is the state of YM in the U.S.. Make disciples, or it won't last past their 21 birthday.
I wish that Youth pastors would understand this. This is why going to youth groups never worked for me because I didn’t want to go for an hour and play games and then learn about God for maybe 10 minutes. The amount of followers you have, does not account to how many people you have helped saved. I don’t think that Youth pastors understand this. This is not to say that this applies to all youth groups
It would be a fantastic thing if we could get rid of all the youth pastors and the older creepy pastors too. religion has had its day of control and needs to go away now.
Give these children expository preaching!! Not this cherry picking stuff that I’m hearing nowadays. If I hear Jeremiah 29:11 or Philippians 4:13 out of context one more time….I’m gonna scream.
And they can include actual Bible study durng the service. These youth need the sword that is the word to impact their generations. They can spend countless hours online but we can't feed them the Word and the Lord's presence????
It’s cuz it’s boring nobody wants to hear about God when they’re kids, nobody wants to want to hear about God when they are going through puberty, God is mostly for grown ups. For grown adults needing serious guidance. Give your kids the same free will God gave you and they will choose to eat pizza and play games and try to enjoy life. Isn’t that what what heaven will look like? Just fun and jokes and happiness all the time. Being fired up? It’s strange these old guys believing that the way through to kids to force God onto them
I’m a youth pastor and my kids get a heavy dose of the Word, discipleship with pizza 😊
Thank you for what you do!!!!. This generation needs to be equipped with the Word and the spirit of God to overcome and be the light in the world.
Thank you for being faithful. #keepgoingfwd
Yo my heart cried when he went in on this. It’s so true!!!!
Same..!!!!
As youth minister I always wanted to make sure our ministry was not an events ministry but a life change/ seed planting, along with building Kingdom in our young ppl ministry. This was a huge challenge with leadership at one ministry I was at. I had to really trust God with the Vision that He had given me.
It's not just the youth department. All of church has been water down. Not even the adults want a sermon more than 20 minutes although just because a sermon is a hour doesn't mean it's full of the spirit. I'm not against making things creative and fun but make sure people are learning and let's not forget we need to be studying and reading on our own. A service should not be the only spiritual learning your getting. Your every day life can be full of God teaching you and using you. It sticks with me through those God experiences then just get preached at
It has ticked me off for years! I served and led youth Ministries. When I wanted to introduce more word and discipleship, I got quietly out voted, removed, and replaced. The youth ended up with more pizza, more ice cream, and more games, and less word. On top of that the replacement that they had, didn't even stay. That Youth Department ended up getting shut down. It truly was a shame. Fortunately, before all this went down I made it my business to teach from the pulpit, from the book of Romans expositionally, over the course of a decade. I was determined that not just the youth, but everyone that heard from me was going to get proper Doctrine. By God's grace, a number of those youth have gone on forward in the Lord and in their lives, doing well in their career paths, would some of them marrying and having children of Their Own. #giveEmtheGospel #keepgoingfwd
At my church, we don’t do the games.. we have dinners together, but we have always been focused on these young people encountering authentic Jesus… And the change I’ve seen and the life that is in their hearts and eyes for Jesus is unlike I’ve seen at any other youth group…
As an aspiring Youth Pastor, this video brought so much clarity to the season of life I’m in currently. Thank you!
FACTS!!! This happens in my home church. My son is hungry for the word because I feed him it at home. They have 2 worship songs and a 15 minute message. It’s sad.
Are you going to become a teacher for their division?
Agreed. They need to be discipled and preached to. They have to be prepared with the Word and the presence of God in order to make an impact in their generation. It's on us to prepare them!!!!
Every one of his reels I have watched has been solid. Dropping some serious truth bombs about the messed up broken church we are trying to import around the world. Keep preaching, brother! May the Will of God and the Word of God and the Spirit of God reign supreme in our lives!
Amen! I was a youth pastor for 2 years, and the youth thrive on learning the Word and flounder on the fluff of entertainment! Preach the Word and answer their questions Biblically.....they want to grow Spiritually.
Preach it brother this is the problem I have with my youth ministry they dont want bible study no more.
Was going to subscribe, and realized I’m already a subscriber. 💯
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As a youth pastor I make sure the youths always have a sit out where we have funs and discuss the word of God.
"get Cho weight up!"
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Word!!! Ain't that the truth! ✌🏾🤷🏾♀️
Pulled my kids from a youth group here and there over our lifetime for basically being a “play date for teens” on Wednesday night. Can’t ever reach out to their “youth leaders” because they had a new one ever other week. Wasting my sons time. No thank you. Where they go now, their is teaching of a lifestyle and deep relationship with Father God! They can text or call their youth pastor when in a bind or just for a chat! God has blessed us deeply with the ministry we found.
Fan club is a great play on words. Since they are fanning flames.
TIM!!! CMON MAN
God has a sure fire way of making disciples if man falls short.
👍 how encouraging! Somebody standing up for truth!
Yeah when I did youth group at a church in my hometown we would only do 30 mins of teaching and or movie of some kind and then let us play around for an hour. I enjoyed it as a kid but I was spiritually unprepared as an adult.
What you win them with…you must keep them with!
Ohhhh my that’s some truth
Food for thought
😭😭😭 This right here. I’m a mom of 4 boys. I’ve been in church since 10 years old. Youth ministry was EVERYTHING for me growing up. I was young youth worker by 15/16. We had gang member coming to youth services bawling at our alters. I saw young peoples live changed and now they are conditioned to believe there is no hope. Accept yourself and others in the sinful state you’re in. My heart can’t take it
Amen we need more Timothy’s , in Jesus mighty name!!!
I say this too. My grand kids played basketball and danced and just hung out in church. I am not saying this to be rude. I am so concerned for the youth and the babies. They need a class for ages 5 to 10 yrs old and 11 to 13 years old. 14 to 17 yrs old. But only if they are going to teach them. I think that these classes are needed for the youth to grow. We need more teachers in the church. Qualified teacher. Called by God and prepared by God and sent by God. Teachers that are led by God's Spirit; understanding and know the word. Because our children are suffering because of this. They got issues and questions that they need answers as well.
Totally agree that you need a balanced youth ministry. I don't think the answer is longer messages although I think it's fine if you do speak longer. I think it's building relationships and helping them to apply the message to their lives. I personally try not to speak over 20-30 min and have our small group leaders follow up on relationship and discipleship. Do we know our students, what they're going through, what they're struggling with? Speaking at them for an hour won't help you with that.
Yes pastor❤❤
Amen
Wow this gave me chills. Sad but true for many places.
These youths they are spoiled for too much choices in life , they want everything and anything right now, instant gratification , it’s no wonder their attention span is so short. We need the Holy Ghost revival for this generation of Christ today 😮😮😮
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Me too. I get so upset about that. They spend more time on games, pizza and ungodly more than in the word of God
Facts !!!
Amen🙏
This is soo true, it breaks my heart.
☝️🔥Thank you for SPEAKING and turning the ship 🛳 back into the right direction!
Needed this truth!
Tell us more Tim!
I used to be a part of a large church that does this. I stopped interacting with the youth for many reasons including the music played. It’s heart breaking
As a 6th and 8th Grade Bible Teacher, I one thousand percent agree
Yes. 😢😢😢
This is usually the reason young people are unprepared for the world when they become adults. If I didn't have a strong hunger and a firm foundation in the Lord, I would've been so lost when I got to college. So many people I grew up with who are Christian have double lives because they were TOLD to be instant in season and out of season, but we're never SHOWN HOW TO ACTUALLY WALK THIS WALK OUT IN REAL LIFE!!!
😞🤦🏾♀️
True
Yesssssssss!!!!!
You don't make disciples in a church building, they're made in the world. God is life, and life is in his people, live life.
true
This Part. Youth are part of the body of Christ. Make them disciples.
Wow, Amen! So true ❤.
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The modern church needs a reformation!
I've been saying this in my church for three- and-a-half years! Thank you!
Our children sit in adult service, learn and prophecy…🤷🏽♀️
Facts… it’s happening
I don' think time of message = good or bad discipleship. It's more about the opportunities a youth pastor creates to practice what is taught.
Youth ministries really need to focus more on ministry. Youth are playing games all the time, spend time discipling, strengthening friendships, and teaching them how to evaluate the world through Scripture. Youth ministers need to be a mentor, not a game leader. (So thankful for my youth ministry).
THANK YOU IVE BEEN SAYING THIS AND ITS LIKE WHATS GOING ON?!
Is there a full version of this ???
That's the truth
Preach!
Tell us more. I have witnessed this at every church I’ve gone to. What’s a better, lasting order of service for the youth?
It's all about profit 📈 👌
Woooooo!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥
#MakeDisciplesOfJESUS
I was a youth pastor for 25 years and it's sad. So sad that too often this is the state of YM in the U.S.. Make disciples, or it won't last past their 21 birthday.
Preach!!!!
Yes!!!
Amen I want to attend this church so bad mannn
True facts
The youth aren't buying what religion is selling. I hope they are thinking more critically, being more skeptical about the world WITHOUT religion.
We have a phenomenal youth ministry at FBCG
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All I hear are facts.
Dang.
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I wish that Youth pastors would understand this. This is why going to youth groups never worked for me because I didn’t want to go for an hour and play games and then learn about God for maybe 10 minutes. The amount of followers you have, does not account to how many people you have helped saved. I don’t think that Youth pastors understand this. This is not to say that this applies to all youth groups
Thats the parents job too my man
And what if their parents are not Christians?. Sometimes the church is the only place that some kids get to hear the word of God.
@@lori1655 if their parents aren’t Christian then they won’t be going to church to begin with though
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This is how students start down the route of Moralistic Therapeutic Deism.
It would be a fantastic thing if we could get rid of all the youth pastors and the older creepy pastors too.
religion has had its day of control and needs to go away now.
Give these children expository preaching!! Not this cherry picking stuff that I’m hearing nowadays. If I hear Jeremiah 29:11 or Philippians 4:13 out of context one more time….I’m gonna scream.
No lies told
Come on.
I think that's more on the church then the youth pastors tho tbh
The youth pastors run the service. They could preach for the whole hour. They choose not to.
And they can include actual Bible study durng the service. These youth need the sword that is the word to impact their generations. They can spend countless hours online but we can't feed them the Word and the Lord's presence????
It’s funny to me how he is so clear on every topic except women pastors. I can’t hear you sir.
Watered down “boys and girls clubs” nothing real os convicting is preached. Doesnt lead to salvation through repentance.
It’s cuz it’s boring nobody wants to hear about God when they’re kids, nobody wants to want to hear about God when they are going through puberty, God is mostly for grown ups. For grown adults needing serious guidance. Give your kids the same free will God gave you and they will choose to eat pizza and play games and try to enjoy life. Isn’t that what what heaven will look like? Just fun and jokes and happiness all the time. Being fired up?
It’s strange these old guys believing that the way through to kids to force God onto them
Who os this guy
People act like kids can’t understand the word being Noah and the ark! Lies! Get ya weight up!
Sorry but why does the girl look like she is drowning in those headphones.
Whi is this guy
I just don't understand how you all could believe in this non sense.
True
Amen