Plastic, Wax, Starter Strips Must See Part 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- The is third video in a series comparing full sheets of was, plastic foundation and 3/4 inch starter strips. This shows what the bees want to draw by giving them what they want it is less stressful to the bees. A stressed colony is more likely to get sick.
Looking forward to your video about wax boards in honey supers and how to get the bees to draw it out quicker!
Nice video Joe. I would love to see how u get your bees move up to draw the plastic out in the honey suppers.
Again I say thank you for a fair demonstration. Many would enjoy your video on plastic being drawn out for honey.
HBM
Got to love the starter strips. No muss, no fuss. You do a great job.
Joe, I did my own experiment last year with foundation and starter strips I don’t use plastic but my results were same as yours larger cells on outside worker in middle thanks for all you do regards from Dennis in NC
Joe, thanks for the video. Please produce the video that you we’re speaking about on the bees drawing out the honey super frames and how to speed that process up. Getting the supers drawn out is what I struggle with the most.
Can’t wait for you to do the video on coaxing the bees up into the supers. Thanks for the info!
I’m going to give starter strip a try. Been using plastic and don’t know if I’m crazy about it. Thanks.
I appreciate the informative videos, thanks Joe for making them.
great info. what genetics are those girls? they are beautiful!!
I use all starter strips in my brood boxes, in my experience they will draw it quicker. I do like to use plastic in my supers for extracting. Great video
I try that last year. bees will draw like that. there's different from feral bee. feral bee never like plastic. foundation bee will draw foundation plastics. it also depend on the type of bees as well. bees love what they can build at the time n needs.
Joe you have proofed what bees prefer to draw on when given a choice. My question is if bees aren't given a choice does it make much difference. If you had 3 similar sized hives and added three frames of each type of frames would they show such a drastic difference as what you showed when they do have a choice. I think bees will do what they have to in order to expand. They enjoy starter strip is proven here. Thanks for your demonstration of the difference.
If you do that they will draw the starter strips twice as fast as the hive with plastic.
@@LittleBitsHoneyBeesjoemay I suppose you have done that already. Thanks Joe.
@@russellkoopman3004 I have but it's hard to copare
I use all rite-cell foundation. when they don't have a choice they build it just as fast.
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It goes faster because they can build both sides at once....
I'm not picking a fight but the first sign of cross comb on plastic foundation is an idication of improperly applied wax or insuffient wax. I run a mix of starter strips and plastic, and if plastic is properly waxed my bees will draw it first every single time without fail and hardly hang on the starter strips.
Do what works for you.
I have been thinking about this comment and had an Idea. You wax a plastic foundation the right way mail it to me and I will do a video on them side by side. joe may 1515 S Maxwell st. Bloomington, IN 47401-6622
@@LittleBitsHoneyBeesjoemay I was shown this same method by a commercial keeper who runs 800 hives, he runs nothing but Acorn plastic frames. Check out this video Joe, Kamon does it the same as me but I hit it twice not once. th-cam.com/video/6urrht0Falk/w-d-xo.html
So do you have a video on how you make up your frames with starter strips? I'd love to learn more on this topic
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Nice followup, thank you Joe.
I dont have any problem with plastic foundation they draw it as well as wax foundation .I dont use the starter strips as they dont hold together in the extractor.Good video though thanks.
New to the Channel... just found your channel.... just started beekeeping... just starting putting out some Bee Videos too...
I do not like plastic and think a milk carton strip works best for a starter. Thank you for running this test and confirming my beliefs.
Please talk about how to get comb drawn in summer and fall. Looking to make splits in 100 degree weather. I am in southwest TX. Middle of May temperature are 95 plus. Keep up the great videos.
To keep bees drawing wax you need to start feeding before the nectar flow stops and keep feeding.
I have been using starter strips almost entirely for the last several years; Ill sometimes use foundation or drawn comb to give the bees a vertical line to reference off of. The critical thing that I found is to make sure your hive is level from side to side. Bees draw vertically with the line of gravity (most of the time) and I have a lot less trouble with crazy comb when the hive is level. Also, using starter strip if you are running 9 frames in a 10-frame box is a recipe for a mess. I cross-string mine with fishing line which gives some extra support and reduces (but does not eliminate) blow out if it is a honey frame.
Joe, about those clips you use to hold your hives together: are they a commercial part of some sort or do you make them yourself? They seem pretty handy and much easier to deal with than staples, at least for light duty applications. Thanks for the video, Stu
I make them they are called Z clips I have a video on how to make them
Little Bits Honey Bees joe may Thanks, Joe. I found it and a getting set to make a few hundred for myself. Stu
My bees draw decent on the honey colored plastic, but the black plastic they draw just like this video....wax foundation does seem faster for me then plastic. However, this year I've not been able to keep up with the bees it's been such a busy season...
Use a mini roller to put bees wax onto the plastic and magic happens.
The Proof is in the pudding! Thanks for sharing.
Check out Steves outdoor world for wax jute string as starter and you can also use popsicle coated sticks or quart paint stir sticks. Thank Joe. You are a awesome asset to the world.
Joe just curious as to what those things are on the entrances of hive #77&79 ? Great video by the way. Those starter strips are the only way to go. Saves time,saves money and is more natural for the bees. Take care and God Bless.
It's a new entranced I made suppose to stop the beetles from getting in.
@@LittleBitsHoneyBeesjoemayAre they doing a good job keeping the hive beetles out?
The reason I am asking is I have designed a hive just for sqaure section honey production. The design simulates the way a hive would live in a tree. Chimney design. Same size boxes for brood and section holders. Inside frame diameter is 8 1/4" wide and 12 3/8" deep.Hive is made with 2x lumber using 2x8s .The boxes fit together on a lip recession design so each part of the hive fits down on this ledge so it kind of locks into place . I have everything on a drawing board. Now I have get it all cut out and made. Maybe when I get one of these made I will post a video. Thanks for your quick reply. God Bless.
@@jefftuttle7890 It's a little early here for beetles so I don't really know.
@@LittleBitsHoneyBeesjoemay I understand I thought you have had them in use for a while. Thanks.
I would love to see a follow up on those styrofoam nukes you made last fall. Did they help? How did they hold up? Etc. Thanks Joe
Joe what do you use for your starter strip?
I cut 3/4 inch strips out of wax foundation.