I don't think DJ's ever really chose songs (or not) because of weird arrangements. The Age of Love and Schöneberg (a few very old examples that might or might not show my age) have weirdly timed intros that DJ's in the vinyl age hated. And many of us got ourselves in trouble for not counting it out. But we picked up on them anyway and turned them into huge hits. The counting error happens to you once and then you won't forget again. And the next time you play it, you know you passed another little DJ challenge. And other DJ's in the room know it too. Part of the fun. Anyway, DJ's play songs because they are great. Do not conform to those types of frameworks. Music has evolution too and if we keep on conforming to things like these we'll be left with very boring, stylistic music, without the quirks that lead to entire new directions. Thanks for the video, by the way!
Oscar you are just the best. Your videos are apparently production oriented but the notions you give are just like basic grammar to understand electronic music. In every single video I learn something useful for djing and (more predictably) for live playing. THANK YOU! Your work is just on point.
Getting a larger sound system with proper low end, totally gave me a new appreciation for tracks with shorter punchy elements. The sustained low end stuff just gets a bit tiresome after a while.
Imagine Four Tet shows up and says: "no problem I talked a bit and using it is fine with me, as long as people appreciate my music and learn from it!" 😂 If I would be a noted artist and my song would be released on a label, I'd contact those persons and tell them, if it's a learning purpose go ahead, f my contact, but don't tell anyone 😂
One thing "KH" seems to do a lot of is to do with the high-hats - he'll open them up and extend the decay, then close them back to being very short/tight. The really interesting thing though, is that he'll do this semi randomly, so the open/close effect doesn't always repeat in the same place. You can hear it especially on "Looking at Your Pager". Subtle but effective.
There's a Tape Notes episode where he talks about how he made Looking At Your Pager. He took a drum loop that he had recorded previously of himself messing about with a drum machine and dropped it onto the vocals and it just worked. So that "semi random" hi hat decay modulation was not at all planned in the context of that track.
second point was a good one. Only just became aware that my produtions are usually the opposite e.g. tight and punch in the high end and less so as it moves down the spectrum
Great analysis of this (oaisgfnuhserbfrQJFSDF) tune! It sounds almost garage in the rhythm and very danceable. I'm interested in making techno that is good to dance to as well as listen to- though I'm somewhat restricted by being dawless and I don't use song mode as I like to constantly cut, filter and add elements of my tunes (using a Digitakt). It's always interesting to see how other people produce electronic music, I love how different the approaches and creativity is.
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ads often go to copyright owners now. it's not "demonetized", but he doesn't touch that money.
@tiben36 thats sadly the correct answer! 🫣
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that 3 bar squeeze in is a real knock you back to reality
This is top-tier music production advice.
I don't think DJ's ever really chose songs (or not) because of weird arrangements. The Age of Love and Schöneberg (a few very old examples that might or might not show my age) have weirdly timed intros that DJ's in the vinyl age hated. And many of us got ourselves in trouble for not counting it out. But we picked up on them anyway and turned them into huge hits. The counting error happens to you once and then you won't forget again. And the next time you play it, you know you passed another little DJ challenge. And other DJ's in the room know it too. Part of the fun.
Anyway, DJ's play songs because they are great. Do not conform to those types of frameworks. Music has evolution too and if we keep on conforming to things like these we'll be left with very boring, stylistic music, without the quirks that lead to entire new directions.
Thanks for the video, by the way!
Hi! Can I ask you what do you mean with "not counting it out"? What did it make Schöneberg weirdly timed?
Oscar you are just the best. Your videos are apparently production oriented but the notions you give are just like basic grammar to understand electronic music. In every single video I learn something useful for djing and (more predictably) for live playing. THANK YOU! Your work is just on point.
Love this breakdown :) so many great observations!
Love your videos Oscar! Been in touch with Anton last week about getting lessons hopefully with you chiming in
I love how passionate and into edm you are. So inspiring
Writers block has been kicking my ass lately. Always nice to see these videos.
Some of the most unique and best music production videos! ❤
Oscar you are amazing
Excellent advice! Nice one.
Getting a larger sound system with proper low end, totally gave me a new appreciation for tracks with shorter punchy elements. The sustained low end stuff just gets a bit tiresome after a while.
Ty! Exactly the type of breakdown I've been looking for.
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Ha..... This is the one 4tet song I really dig funny enough you picked it.
Just thought the Same 😂😂😂 it was such a pain to find the Song 😂😂😂
@@alexanderschweizer115 how to find this song?? :D
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Love your videos oscar! They're always so informative and inspire me to make more beats
This is all very useful, but what we really want to know Oscar is...WHAT is in that cup?
Played this in a DJ set once, a girl came up to me later and said she really liked my set except for the elevator music😭
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Very helpful, thanks my brother :)
Imagine Four Tet shows up and says: "no problem I talked a bit and using it is fine with me, as long as people appreciate my music and learn from it!" 😂 If I would be a noted artist and my song would be released on a label, I'd contact those persons and tell them, if it's a learning purpose go ahead, f my contact, but don't tell anyone 😂
I love I this track so much, now I know why :)
I'M STARTING TO GET IT!
One thing "KH" seems to do a lot of is to do with the high-hats - he'll open them up and extend the decay, then close them back to being very short/tight. The really interesting thing though, is that he'll do this semi randomly, so the open/close effect doesn't always repeat in the same place. You can hear it especially on "Looking at Your Pager". Subtle but effective.
I actually did a video a few weeks ago called "breathing hihats" about this exact technique :D
There's a Tape Notes episode where he talks about how he made Looking At Your Pager. He took a drum loop that he had recorded previously of himself messing about with a drum machine and dropped it onto the vocals and it just worked.
So that "semi random" hi hat decay modulation was not at all planned in the context of that track.
thank you oscar
Yo. Cool, practical, useful, concise shit. Thank you
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BRROOOOO YES OF ALL SONGS
second point was a good one.
Only just became aware that my produtions are usually the opposite e.g. tight and punch in the high end and less so as it moves down the spectrum
@OscarUnderdog is your session at ADE with Alice going to be available to watch after the event?
Feed the algorithm
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If triplet swing blows your mind wait until you. hear about quintuplet or septuplet swing!
hey oscar, can I watch the analysis videos with the Underpuppy membership? Greeeetz love your vids btw :))
and can I download the Track Analysis Template anywhere ?
I always pronounce the plural of “analysis” as “analysees” - “analyses” is the actual word I think
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Great analysis of this (oaisgfnuhserbfrQJFSDF) tune! It sounds almost garage in the rhythm and very danceable. I'm interested in making techno that is good to dance to as well as listen to- though I'm somewhat restricted by being dawless and I don't use song mode as I like to constantly cut, filter and add elements of my tunes (using a Digitakt). It's always interesting to see how other people produce electronic music, I love how different the approaches and creativity is.
Thanx don't have to worry about my weird divisions any more. I'm just bad at math's really
Love your tutorials! You are nice and sweet and lovely ❤
Why exactly 3 bars the squeezer ?
Cause its unusual i think, so that catches the attention! And because the rest of the groove is so standard, its good to do something weird…
@@OscarUnderdog must try it......this would kill the intro, buildup1, breakdown1, peak1, breakdown2, peak2, outro style ??
Cant loop vinyls haha
lol, i'm so old i thought y'all were using 4 tone equal temperament.
Jeff Mills does this at a lower tempo: th-cam.com/video/y2My6DUkpm4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=OE6Uxi15mJRsG_Hv
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Don't dance in your videos please.
16th triplet grid swing goes back to the days of 90's UK Garage. Those swung percs you hear in UK garage tracks were always on the 16th triplets.