Autism featuring Cian O'Clery and Jodi Rodgers | I Don’t Know About That with Jim Jefferies #24
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode, the team discusses autism with director of Netflix's "Love on the Spectrum", Cian O'Clery and sexologist, counselor, and special education teacher, Jodie Rodgers.
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I once met a fellow aspi, whose special interest was social interation, which apparently resulted in his psychiatrist declaring him curred.
On the other hand he seemed be pretty stressed by the mental effort of modeling too many people.
It was a very interesting and englightning conversation for me, since my approch to dealing with neuro-typics(NT) is to announce my autism, rather than trying to slip under the radar.
Personaly I have never regretted being open about my autism.
1. If I make a social mistake I'm less penalised.
2. If I do well socialy it is impressive.
3. If I'm polite and helpfull I can create a shield of NTs to protect me against misunderstandings with outsiders.
4. And it allows for less mental energy wasted on modeling people whom I will be interacting
In regards to eye contact, I used to stare at people, but I've been informed that it made people uncormftable, which has led to an attempt to avoid eye contact, since it is unclear to me where the line is.
In regards to the aspi/autism issue, it has been of great annoyance to me when other aspies refuse to acknowledge that they cannot be an asperger without being an autist. aspergers are a proper subset of autists, it would be the same as me stating "that as a man I am not human".
Personaly I think the greatest misconception about autism, is that we are not social and have social needs.
P.S. A great thing about being an autist is saying something completely outlandish and then stating it must be true since autists cannot lie :)
this is awesome, I have autism too and I was a bit worried going on this podcast, but it was ok. I can lie but I hate it, and I can look people in the eyes (it used to hurt) but then i can't listen to what they're saying x) I prob have ADHD as well. I think i should be open about my autism too going to uni, though I never know how to bring it up.
@@joachimbramson1991 I used to do it as part of the tell a bit about yourself, in the get to know your course-mates in the start of the semester(might be a danish tradition though), but the great thing is that even if it isn't the right time, the autism explains why you might have missed the cue, so it will be hard to lose :)
Edit: Also got ADHD, although I'm more an ADD than then an ADHD.
Wait, was the bit about his interest being social interaction and being “cured” actually true?
@@alphawolf4643 yes, that is what he told me.
My interpretation was that had gotten so good at compensating that he could convincingly "fake" being NT, or that he had a bad psychiatrist.
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#ActuallyAutistic was tough on “Love on the Spectrum,” but as a 35 year old female finally diagnosed ASD, with three little boys on the spectrum-I appreciate the kind lens of the show. Thank you Jim, Kelly, Forrest and Jack for delivering this information with humor and class. 💗💗💗💗💗💗
I like my other podcasts but I think this is my favorite. Even over JRE which would be my 2nd favorite. Keep up the good work!
Yeah I’m sure Jim’s really happy with your approval, dickhead
I also like JRE. I think this is way better, than JRE was in its 1st year. I think Jim & his crew are more fun than Joe, but Joe gets big name guests.
@@Mrbeast0099 Why wouldn't he? I'm sure he really appreciates your condescending tone in the comments below his podcast 🙄
What a high bar
I work with people with special needs. Autism is the most common client. I start with a new asset next week, and he is autistic and has a horrific background history of growing up with a mother and father that are monsters. I'm nervous because I want to do a great job, I'm sure I will because it's what I do well, but I'm not sure what I'm walking into. This podcast helped. I learned some important details. Wish me luck. Keep up this podcast. This episode alone might have changed peoples outlook and life forever. Btw: "Love on the Spectrum" is amazing!
Hi Jim. Frank from Perth here. Not sure if this will get to you but I wanted to say thank you for this episode. My eldest son, number 4 of our 6 children has low functioning ASD, is non verbal and has other intellectual disabilities to go with it and I really appreciate the way you and your crew shed some light on the spectrum and the difficulties the people on the spectrum, their families, educators and support workers face daily with respect and compassion to your audience. Keep up the great work and hope to see you back here in Australia on tour soon.
I swear to God, I look so forward to this podcast every week. Jim is keeping me sane ATM.
Same here!
As a fellow Aussie I experienced a similar situation as Jim in the early eighties with a work colleague that had muscular dystrophy. “Stevie” was employed at the same aviation maintenance facility as I was and his job was to overhaul aircraft spark plugs. Each morning at the start of the day, I would walk by his work area and say “Good Morning Stevie...keeping out of trouble?”
One day after my usual greeting Stevie hauled himself out of his chair and with much difficulty chased me down and said, “why do you ask if I’m keeping out of trouble every time you walk past me without offering any other intelligent conversation.” Suddenly the penny dropped and to my everlasting shame, I suddenly realised that I had in my ignorance I had associated a disabled body with a disabled mind! After then having a real conversation I realised that this young man was probably smarter than me and my other work colleagues combined.
Still being naive and condescending, I arranged a collection at work for Stevie to employ a hooker that specialised in the disabled.
Not sure how that worked out but I did hear that he successfully completed a number of exams for public service that would have put him four pay grades higher than anything I was likely to achieve...
Dinner party fact: the signing of the Declaration of Independence was celebrated over a glass of Madeira wine. Should you decide to visit, try the wine and the poncha. Thanks for the shout out.
Love the stuff you put together Jim and friends. I'm a fan.
JIM, we wanna see how many likes not just a thumb, COMMENT WORLD, Jack!!!
Please keep the podcast up; always fun to listen and learn....Jim is also always hilarious please keep him and the guy with the glasses bantering
29:54 "I've never been involved in Australian television either" - Jim. Oh how things have changed! :)
1:09:01 - wow, Jodie did the mocking Aussie voice that Jim sometimes does, like, she tightens up her throat to make a funny voice :P
I didn't talk until I was 3. I relate to the whole "masking" concept. I pretty much learned my communication skills by copying youtube videos and reading more books. I've never been diagnosed with anything. I draw animation about 60+ hours a week. I have a few very close friends, but pretty much no interest in socializing more than a couple hours a week at most. I like people, as long as I don't have to talk too much.
Great episode guys. As to whether Asperger's is no longer a diagnosed condition. It has been removed from the most recent DSM (which is the manual used to describe conditions), which is used in the USA (& Australia as far as I know) but it's still a sub-group of Autism in the ICD (the manual used in Europe).
Jim, you're getting pretty good at this not knowing stuff! Last episode was an 8, this one is a 7! Great job 👌
You have may have noticed I've been commenting on several podcasts just discovered this the other day and it's very interesting
I noticed a distinct difference in Kelly forest's and Jim's comfort level talking about autism from the beginning to the end of the podcast
Jim seemed extremely uncomfortable and scared of saying something offensive which is on like him you could tell he was well out of his comfort zone but by the end of the podcast he was more his regular self and making jokes
I think this is the beauty of this podcast in particular and in general bringing what might be considered uncomfortable subjects into public conversation
You covered many topics around autism but the thing I took away from it is to not be afraid of it and to discuss it and educate yourself and others
I think ignorance can only exist in the dark and the more light you shed on something and the more you educate yourselves and others the better it will be great job love your podcast
will never hit skip again if all youtube ads are read by jim 🤣🤣🤣 btw watching from Macau!
The @ sign was originally used by accountants to shorten the line 'at the rate of' when referring to an interest rate. It became mainstream with the dawn of emails to denote a user's inbox address using their username followed by the service provider's name to find the inbox.
101:00 queue Asperger joke. Hilarious AF. BTW: a conversation between Michael from “Love on the Spectrum” and Jim would be brilliantly crafted raw comedy (One of Michael’s talents is comedy)
watching this made me so happy, my son understands his aspergers / spectrum situation and sent me the link in case I didnt... I already watched... its a family trait was his comment when he sent it through lol (no shit sherlock was the response I didnt send, bro and dad exactly the same but never diagnosed).. and he said "hotdogitis" would be cool, but Aspergers it is.... (hes a ripper my boy)
Forrest's arm tan continues to be consistently impressive. Keep killing it outdoors you bearded champion! 🤘
That lady is the most Australian sounding person ever
The dingo stole my baby!
top shelf sheila!
Used to work at “The Espy” in St Kilda. It could get pretty “Aspy” most nights really.
Lovin this podcast gang. All of ya’s. people can’t see the Forest for….well…The Forest ;)
Surprising
This episode I am rewatching for the 2nd time !! I find that I learn/retain much of what I missed the first ⏲️ time 😆. I HOPE that makes sense. OBTW Jim should have Russell Brand on the podcast sometime. I think Jim and Russell would get along magnificently.
Almost any name given to an intellectual or behavioral condition will eventually fall out of favor because it inevitably gets adopted by mainstream society as a slur.
"Moron" is perhaps the best example of this
Yeah, its a pretty autistic trend.
I watched the whole thing and had a great laugh only to realise I was learning things. Damn you Mr Nugent.
Only podcast where the add reads are also funny. Btw jim you forgot the imodium Ad read.
Another great cast! And loved that series love on the spectrum. Hope they put out more
I think i just farted myself awake ⏰....i love jim, forest, and kelly, and jack
1 show a week shows a lack of hard work ethic make 5 please. I have no job
@Jack Hackett plz pick this one for comment world XD
I love this sentiment so much
In regards to Madeira, USA and Portugal are in tough negotiations with ultimatos and stuff, visit Azores too
Loved the guests but Jodie especially....what a star!
Fucken rad - more of this!!!
Jim is on his A game. I miss his show, why was it cancelled?
I think he ended it to shoot a pilot or something?
Comment world is the best part of this show! Put Jack on camera ya clowns!
Jesus, Madeira has roughly 250K people living there, not THAT small Jim! Cheers to my fellow countryman living in Madeira ;) Nice Episode guys.
This was a great episode
Emus and kangaroos can't go backwards.
Until ya hit em with ya big bull bar 😉
So that's where the prairie of prax is.
His name’s Worraz and he’s a fucking arsehole
... easily. Both can but it's damn awkward.
Only ad reads worth sitting thru.
IDKAT is such a tease with that story we will never have time for...
Forrest if you let jim tell the story next week I swear to god I’ll actually buy your fucking special hahahaha
Hervey, Hervie, Harvie. Harvey is an English family and given name derived from the Old Breton name Huiarnviu, derived from the elements hoiarn, huiarn (modern Breton houarn) meaning "iron" and viu (Breton bev) meaning "blazing". It is related to Old Welsh Haarnbiu.
Sounds like Irn Bru
Great episode, thanks
The missus reckons I'm autistic lol
Space
The final frontier
These are the voyages of the IDKAT podcast
Their continuing mission: to explore strange new topics
to seek out new jokes, and new ways to insult Jack
To boldly go not very far because Luis' wooden car caught on fire half way there
My favorite thing in the world is smoking a little bit of cannabis. Learning from the experts. and listening to jim being jim all while making fun of jacks sex life. 2020 aint all bad
Jim, you're a friggin beauty mate!! The rest of the crew ain't too bad either.
I heard the comment about Kelly's blonde hair and had to come and look... I was sure she was black! LOL
Guessing they didn't watch Expecting Amy, where Amy Schumer finds out during the documentary that her husband was diagnosed with Autism.
Greatest podcast 🙌😊😊
@Jack and team... any chance that "The Internet" will be a future topic? I'd fucken love to hear Jim lob a few cheeky shots at the Aussie Govt for the mess we have here. It'd also be interesting to hear more about the Internet over in America. Big topic - and of course pr0n would end up in there somewhere which is always delightful. Kind regards, Jim.
My son has Autism.
I had to pull him out of school in 8th grade to cyberschool him & he missed out on the socialization.
He's 20.
He's been "dating" this girl online for 3 years.
She's a legit 21 year old.
If ever someone deserved help, it's him.
Hmu, Jim.
He's in PA, she's in IL.
It's for a good cause.
Email Nev from Catfish
Great episode. I am professionally diagnosed autistic and even though Jim is a cheeky fucker he obviously is kind and cares.
There it is again! 1:17, Forrest saying 'moon' like 'mewn'. It's just weird to me ahah
The guy portrayed by Dustbin Hoffman, Kim Peek, was not institutionalized, his father was told he would be, but refused to allow that to happen and took very good care of his son until the day he died, they are both dead now, not sure who died first, Kim i think... god bless them.
cannabis would probably be a mixed bag, you're talking about a spectrum and cannabis effects everyone differently. But generally I would assume it would be a relaxing enjoyable time though it can stimulate feelings of anxiety as well as that hyper focus which can be good or bad.
I really like that Diploma there Jim 0:22
Looking great Kelley 👌🏾
Harry is a nickname for Henry as well as short for Harold. 👍
Listening from Wales not the animal Jim you crack me up
Sometimes you have to move household devices with your car, and this is why there's vacuum in space and it also has a cable on it.
The best intro oh my fuck
listening from Tehran, IRAN
Madeira 🇵🇹🇵🇹
Finally Finally Nobel show
Jack, can you ask Jim about his "shoey" experience in Adelaide?
Jack is like the bargain basement version of Jamie from Joe Rogan's podcast.
Was Dan Bakkedahl's character in Legit based on Forrest?
No1 Jimmy boy
Once, thought I was on the spectrum, because, I can lack empathy. However, I dated a girl with an autistic son. He was 17, 6ft 4" & slept with a stuffed pig called, Moo. Made me realise, I have issues, but, I'm not autistic.
The "kid" made the relationship near impossible. She had him young. I suppose the lesson is:
Don't stuff your face with 'E' and get pumped in the bathroom cubicles at, Bongos, aged 17.
More people should abort. Every child is not a gift and a miracle
I came to be a fan of Jim because of the joke where he takes Dan to the brothel. After all these years, it's still my favourite.
But also fuck the pandas.
fuckin hell Jim haha
Also, Linda Carter just changed outfits.
Man Jim you the funny
Jim is my fav autistic guy
Great episode as always. But that guy claiming he cane up with this idea for a show is fibbing. Can’t take credit when “Undateables” has been running since 2012 In The UK. Same show
Jodi would be an awesome aunt.
You guys need to bumb up these podcasts to like 3 a week
1 a week keeps it fresh
I think you should split the screen to show everybody in the pod and show the expressions but hide the ones not needed
Madeira is Portuguese because they were the first human beings to settle there
Jim you're the best. I think the honesty of the weathermen what's his name and Joe's cousin doomed your show. Opinions are like assholes they stink. Can't help it.
Fwiw..... I'm only here to suggest 'imported stiffies' are not as good as 'american made stiffies'. Hahaha
The @ symbol has been around longer than the internet. It originated as "ad" and was listed before priced commodities. Now call me a fucking nerd Jim!!
Well, according to Jim's description of autism, I'm autistic as fuck.
Why isn't oxytocin something that is prescribed by doctors?
why u call it obsession and not passion, to be impassioned about something? so its all bout perspective? dunno, just askin
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Jim my mum calls me Jeffrey when she is angry at me but now I at 54 years old she talks normally with me
Any one know what hat forest is wearing ?
1:06:54 +)) forest u were the last line of defance for getting an answer out of that question ! what have you done! =))
Harry = Harrison ?? 😂
Harry is short for Henry
We do know about that ....
Things being so overanalyzed and labelled these days makes me autistic.
Can anyone explain why Kelly mouthed for someone to "scram" in this episode? Around like the hour mark.. Thought it was kinda bitchy lol
he got married......that’s great I hope he’s so so happy........I however am now depressed
Awesome!
That story they keep pushing back is a bit. I bet they’re gonna push that story back every episode until the last episode in a few years where they’ll finally reveal it.
william/will/bill robert/rob/bob/nob/ richard/rich/rick/dick these are from cockney rhyming slang
Heaps good
please read this comment on comment world. thank you.
What is this fancy diploma for Jim?