This is hands down the best dyi tutorial I've seen far f30 spring install so far. Simple, straight to the point, no sidetracking, no opinions. Just tech talk.
I finally installed the H&R Sport Springs with Bilstein B8's on all 4-corners of my 335. Absolutely unequivocally brilliant result. Costs a few bucks up here in Canada but so worth the time and investment. I was a bit worried after your anti run-flat post. I put standard Pilot Sport A/S3's on the car and like I said ...
The ride is slightly stiffer than stock but not a problem at all when driving around. My wife said "very smooth" today, so I think we have a verdict. Expansion joints on one of our older bridges sharply remind me that I have a Sport suspension though. In general I think the 225/45ZR18's buffer a certain amount of road texture. Two really noticeable things are the drop in ride height and the swift immediacy of steering input. This is what a 3-series should feel like.
Just to let you know. The process works exactly the same on a F36 the only difference is that the torx on the rear axle is bigger, you need a different key
Thanks alot Kies Motorsports! Just lowered my f30 with KW springs with your DIY. But without the power tools it requires lots of strength but it worked. My f30 with 19 inch bbs lm looks much better now.
Thanks for the great instructional video. In the future, it may be nice to list the tools needed in the description. I'll be using this guide soon, thanks.
Hey quick question here, If you feel like the rear height is too high of your H&R Sport lowering springs, is it possible to put some BC coilovers weight ajuster on top of the spring to manually lower the rear by yourself with coilovers ranch?
I want to lower my bmw but heard that its bad to mess with the x drive setup? Has anyone run lowering springs on an x drive and what’s your experience with longevity and reliability with shocks etc...
Just completed this job today with AC Schnitzer springs. Just to help. we noticed that the drive shaft can sometimes pop out when the front strut assembly is taken out. This makes it really difficult to put the new strut assembly back in. Make sure that the drive shaft is fully engaged when strut goes back in . Also some of the bolt sizes and numbers may vary between models. I was working on 435d EU spec. Otherwise a great video. Many thanks.
Thanks again for the video; it provided a great guide for me to install H&Rs springs on my F30 this past weekend. The only trouble I ran into was the alignment of the rear control arm to the brake hub assembly. I simply could not get the pivot point perfectly aligned so a mechanic friend successfully did it for me. Do you have any videos on DPs or upgrades for the FMIC?
after owning an e46 and an e92 now onto a f30 all things just get more complicated. I am cursing at my screen just watching you do the front end of this haha. thanks for the videos man! ps. love your car, i have a f30 14 328i xdrive sportline and i'm doing that front lip and vinyl wrap the back of the sportline from your videos!
So what are the torque settings for the rear 2 bolts that connect the hub and the rear damper, The torque specs for the front collar bolt and top mount bolts. If you don't mind me asking
Your video was helpful 👍🏽 Same setup here, but with the stock shock absorbers when i hit a hole in the road the absorber hits it self from being shortened and make a big boooom ... So i ordered the Bilstein B8 for front axel today ;)
Been needing this answer back, about to order brand new struts + mounts. How’s the ride? I have m package + 19’ , would like to hear the feedback on the bilstein
I always find that last large 21mm bolt on the rear lower wishbone the most difficult to get in as the knuckle bushing never aligns straight to get the bolt through. I noticed that you jacked up the wishbone under the spring. I'll give that a try next time.
Hi Brian, it's very enjoyable to watch your DIY. I am working on the same project for my roommate's F30 335i. Do you know the torque specs for those bolts? I did some research showing that: everything looks OK but the three 16mm bolts which are only 28NM. The tightening specs look too low. If you know what exact torque spec, please let me know. Thanks! Strut to strut mount nut: 16mm bolt 44NM nut 32.5ft/lb Strut mount to vehicle body: 3X16mm bolts 28NM 27.7ft/lb Strut assembly to steering knuckle: 18mm bolt + 16mm nut 100NM 74 ft/lb Suspension brace: E18 bolt 56NM 41ft/lb Sway bar link to strut assembly: 16mm nut 56NM 41ft/lb
Any suspension mods definitely needs an alignment check asap. I myself bought super sports for my F30 vs. the H&R sport springs in the video and if you’re especially doing a diy install, it’s highly recommended.
Brilliant video! What would make it priceless is if you could include the torque settings for each nut/bolt. That information is very difficult to find for some.
I had to replace the entire roll over strut arm (you one you removed 2 bolts from), the final bolt removed was by the subframe. I cannot realign the knuckle arm bolt which was a skipped scene here, the jack goes from being by the knuckle to under the spring. Any suggestions?
So much easier if you leave the front strut attached to the tower, and just push the knuckle down. Instead of trying to pull the strut out of the knuckle.
Work smarter! I like it! I'm assuming if you have enough ground clearance to pull the springs down under. Is the removal/installation similar to a 2014 X3 xdrive35i Msport? Newb DIY'r asking? I bought a set of H&R and I'm debating to take it in to my mechanic for $600(quoted high as $1000) vs DIY.
Great video. I replaced my springs on my f30 today using this video...just had some knocking on the front driver side after installing them, I'm tightening bolts tomorrow to make sure everything is good. I didn't use the BMW torque specs for any of the bolts I removed.
Did mine yesterday and experienced the same knocking sound coming from the exact same side. Retightened every bolt last night and made sure everything is where its supposed to be. Still hearing it today. Were you able to get rid of the noise?
Hey Brian! I just finished mine. And I got a traction control light and an abs and now a check engine light. Have you heard of this problem happening. It’s a 2015 328i xdrive
It’s not e34 easy, where you can remove the sway bar end links, unbolt the strut rod, and drop the suspension so far the spring unloads and the strut pivots out for easy spring removal, but it is no hard than my e46 either.
cant you just leave the front shocks hanging in and undo the top bolt from there, unbolt the top of the spring and insert new spring and compress the spring by jacking up the assebmbly?
I am installing B 14 Bill Steen coil overs on anF 30 X Dr. and I want to know if it’s OK to reuse the original bump stop. In the rear. The certificate that comes with the kit says to reuse it but it seems a little bit long. What are your thoughts? Sorry I’m text speech iso the words are a little funny.The certificate that comes
I just did this to my car, great video by the way. Exact same springs. Did you have any issues with your axles at all? How did your suspension hold up? I’m just bracing myself for all the issues that may arise lol
Liked all your videos very helpful. Need help n hard to find answers F32 xdrive with adaptive m suspension can I use h&r springs or what would u recommend Any comments would be greatly appreciated thanks.
Where did you get that spring compression tool you used for the front? The one you used looks very safe with the c clamps, there is no way for the spring to slip. Do you have a link? Also does X-drive, or the ability to switch suspension modes effect this job at all? Thanks.
Almost all houses in a middle class area in the US are like this lol. We have the advantage of a very low cost of living and lots of area compared to Europe
I have to agree with the H&R making the ride awful on an XDrive, I have them installed on my F32 XDrive and looking for another alternative. The look is amazing but any bump on the road will make you cringe! Would love to hear what anyone out there has done to rectify this issue........
Ken Cardona just installed h@r springs on my 2011 335i xdrive and the car hits very hard with my snow tires still on. Scared to change over to my Summer wheels and tires now.
Great video man!! I was wondering if I lower the front suspension of my F15 BMW 2014 would the rear suspension follow the front by itself since it's self leveling?
This is hands down the best dyi tutorial I've seen far f30 spring install so far.
Simple, straight to the point, no sidetracking, no opinions. Just tech talk.
Ha! What a blast from the past. This showed up as a recommended video on youtube. Look how far Brians has come. Congrats!!!
This guy always has the best camera angles and best explanations. It’s deceiving because he makes everything look super easy 😂
I finally installed the H&R Sport Springs with Bilstein B8's on all 4-corners of my 335. Absolutely unequivocally brilliant result. Costs a few bucks up here in Canada but so worth the time and investment. I was a bit worried after your anti run-flat post. I put standard Pilot Sport A/S3's on the car and like I said ...
Hi, Rob. Awesome, how's the ride?
The ride is slightly stiffer than stock but not a problem at all when driving around. My wife said "very smooth" today, so I think we have a verdict.
Expansion joints on one of our older bridges sharply remind me that I have a Sport suspension though. In general I think the 225/45ZR18's buffer a certain amount of road texture. Two really noticeable things are the drop in ride height and the swift immediacy of steering input. This is what a 3-series should feel like.
Has your verdict changed a year later? Did you use the stock end links?
How did you fixed the negative camber?
Just to let you know. The process works exactly the same on a F36 the only difference is that the torx on the rear axle is bigger, you need a different key
Would love to see a video showing the jacking points (besides the 4 square ones)
Thank you for this video. My grandfather and I lowered my f30 on k&n sports in only 3.5 hrs. Quicker than I honestly expected
Awesome job!
Kies Motorsports one last thing, are ur m wheels 18s or 19s? Thanks!
Thanks alot Kies Motorsports! Just lowered my f30 with KW springs with your DIY. But without the power tools it requires lots of strength but it worked. My f30 with 19 inch bbs lm looks much better now.
Really nice to see where you started this channel. congratz on learning so much and growing your channel :)
will be DIY'ing very soon. Any chance you have a list of torque specs for each bolt? Would be very helpful. Thanks!
Tyler Hand hey man I know this comment is very old and u may not even have a bmw anymore but did u ever get those torque specs ? 😂
@@xxxae_ hey. theres a post on bimmerpost under f30 thread that has all the specs from an official bmw service manual i seen a while ago
@@xxxae_ do you have the torque specs ??
Thanks for the great instructional video. In the future, it may be nice to list the tools needed in the description. I'll be using this guide soon, thanks.
Thanks for the tutorial.
Just did my f30 suspension today And this tutorial was on point. 😁👍🏼
Hey quick question here, If you feel like the rear height is too high of your H&R Sport lowering springs, is it possible to put some BC coilovers weight ajuster on top of the spring to manually lower the rear by yourself with coilovers ranch?
I always enjoy watching your videos. You make things look so simple.
Thanks!
I have 2015 F30 and I am thinking of lowering it.
Thanks
I want to lower my bmw but heard that its bad to mess with the x drive setup? Has anyone run lowering springs on an x drive and what’s your experience with longevity and reliability with shocks etc...
Just completed this job today with AC Schnitzer springs. Just to help. we noticed that the drive shaft can sometimes pop out when the front strut assembly is taken out. This makes it really difficult to put the new strut assembly back in. Make sure that the drive shaft is fully engaged when strut goes back in . Also some of the bolt sizes and numbers may vary between models. I was working on 435d EU spec. Otherwise a great video. Many thanks.
I just bought a gorgeous EB 335i and your video will come in very handy once I start working on the suspension. Thank you for making the video.
Awesome, good luck with it!
Thanks again for the video; it provided a great guide for me to install H&Rs springs on my F30 this past weekend. The only trouble I ran into was the alignment of the rear control arm to the brake hub assembly. I simply could not get the pivot point perfectly aligned so a mechanic friend successfully did it for me.
Do you have any videos on DPs or upgrades for the FMIC?
Great, glad it helped! I don't yet, but I'm trying to parter with a few companies to do some new videos, but no firm dates yet..
What torque settings did you use when replacing the bolts?
am a car guy with a bmw but you guys are amazing a learn a lot of you guys two
after owning an e46 and an e92 now onto a f30 all things just get more complicated. I am cursing at my screen just watching you do the front end of this haha. thanks for the videos man! ps. love your car, i have a f30 14 328i xdrive sportline and i'm doing that front lip and vinyl wrap the back of the sportline from your videos!
Thanks! Ha, yea, they aren't what they used to be. Good luck with it and let me know if you need help with something. Bryan
Would this be the same procedure (socket sizes and all) on an F30 330i?
How does it drive with stock suspension. Is the xdrive same as e92 xdrive thanks
So what are the torque settings for the rear 2 bolts that connect the hub and the rear damper, The torque specs for the front collar bolt and top mount bolts. If you don't mind me asking
Your video was helpful 👍🏽
Same setup here, but with the stock shock absorbers when i hit a hole in the road the absorber hits it self from being shortened and make a big boooom ...
So i ordered the Bilstein B8 for front axel today ;)
dansobolanu, Did you get to install the Bilstein B8? if so, how does the ride compare? thanks in advance.
Been needing this answer back, about to order brand new struts + mounts.
How’s the ride?
I have m package + 19’ , would like to hear the feedback on the bilstein
Your channel has saved me so much cash. Thank you thank you thank you
So today I lowered my f30 and the rear passenger tire is tucked more than All other tires… any ideas what could be happening
I always find that last large 21mm bolt on the rear lower wishbone the most difficult to get in as the knuckle bushing never aligns straight to get the bolt through. I noticed that you jacked up the wishbone under the spring. I'll give that a try next time.
I cant get that bolt in. How did you do it?
Hi Brian, it's very enjoyable to watch your DIY. I am working on the same project for my roommate's F30 335i. Do you know the torque specs for those bolts? I did some research showing that: everything looks OK but the three 16mm bolts which are only 28NM. The tightening specs look too low. If you know what exact torque spec, please let me know. Thanks!
Strut to strut mount nut: 16mm bolt 44NM nut 32.5ft/lb
Strut mount to vehicle body: 3X16mm bolts 28NM 27.7ft/lb
Strut assembly to steering knuckle: 18mm bolt + 16mm nut 100NM 74 ft/lb
Suspension brace: E18 bolt 56NM 41ft/lb
Sway bar link to strut assembly: 16mm nut 56NM 41ft/lb
Thanks for the video. What is the torque settings on the top strut bolts.
Does anyone know if this is similar to doing the same on an F20 (M135i)?
Nice video
I bought bmw coils and cant compress it enough to get the gasket on 😬
Do you need an alignment after installing these?
Any suspension mods definitely needs an alignment check asap. I myself bought super sports for my F30 vs. the H&R sport springs in the video and if you’re especially doing a diy install, it’s highly recommended.
Do you have to upgrade your shocks as well? If so, what kind is recommended?
Looks good what you have done to your car so far! Subscribed! Going to try to do some of these mods on my f30 335.
Hi, thanks! I would upgrade your suspension if you're going to do them.
Hey Bryan, what shocks/struts would you recommend to go with these springs? thanks
Brilliant video! What would make it priceless is if you could include the torque settings for each nut/bolt. That information is very difficult to find for some.
Sorry, it's been a while, but I believe there was another comment on it with a post to BimmerPost or BimmerFest with the info
Do you have a link of your front lip? Looks Great
I had to replace the entire roll over strut arm (you one you removed 2 bolts from), the final bolt removed was by the subframe.
I cannot realign the knuckle arm bolt which was a skipped scene here, the jack goes from being by the knuckle to under the spring.
Any suggestions?
Best video that I ever seen.
what size on the go-through-socket to release the droplink?
So much easier if you leave the front strut attached to the tower, and just push the knuckle down. Instead of trying to pull the strut out of the knuckle.
Work smarter! I like it! I'm assuming if you have enough ground clearance to pull the springs down under. Is the removal/installation similar to a 2014 X3 xdrive35i Msport? Newb DIY'r asking? I bought a set of H&R and I'm debating to take it in to my mechanic for $600(quoted high as $1000) vs DIY.
Think they would be any rubbing while running 19x8.5 in the front and 19x9.5 in the rear
Really helpful video. Thanks
Were can i get a good set of 4 springs for my F30..?
Hey isn’t best to replace the shocks with ones that are suitable for lowering springs? Let me know.
Thanks.
It is but mostly if you buy cheap springs
gonna do this but cant find any go though sockets
will this be similar on an f36?
is this the same process for a 2014 335i xdrive with m sport package?
Great video. I replaced my springs on my f30 today using this video...just had some knocking on the front driver side after installing them, I'm tightening bolts tomorrow to make sure everything is good. I didn't use the BMW torque specs for any of the bolts I removed.
Awesome! Yea make sure everything is nice and tight to spec
What spring compressor tool did you use for the fronts? These are a difficult spring to manuever.
Did mine yesterday and experienced the same knocking sound coming from the exact same side. Retightened every bolt last night and made sure everything is where its supposed to be. Still hearing it today. Were you able to get rid of the noise?
Thank you for the awesome video! Just picked up myself an F30i Xdrive. I’m curious, how’s the ride quality after changing the springs?
Hey Brian! I just finished mine. And I got a traction control light and an abs and now a check engine light. Have you heard of this problem happening. It’s a 2015 328i xdrive
the rear is easy..... the front is a nightmare
ร๏๓є๒๏๔1 it looks the front is also easy
It’s not e34 easy, where you can remove the sway bar end links, unbolt the strut rod, and drop the suspension so far the spring unloads and the strut pivots out for easy spring removal, but it is no hard than my e46 either.
Sup Kies, I have a f30 340xi, H&R SS install should be no different than the install done here correct?
Hey brain after I install the springs I’m now getting a code chassis stabilization erro 2017 330i 🤦🏾♂️
cant you just leave the front shocks hanging in and undo the top bolt from there, unbolt the top of the spring and insert new spring and compress the spring by jacking up the assebmbly?
Are there really any need to loosened the whole assembly in the front? Why not just loosened the one nut on the top? And lower it down with a jack?
I am installing B 14 Bill Steen coil overs on anF 30 X Dr. and I want to know if it’s OK to reuse the original bump stop. In the rear. The certificate that comes with the kit says to reuse it but it seems a little bit long. What are your thoughts? Sorry I’m text speech iso the words are a little funny.The certificate that comes
Where are you putting both of your "U" jack stands? I cant tell where to put them.
I’m going to put mine on today
You should do an aftermarket exhaust video, of a few choices, great channel! Thanks.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I just did this to my car, great video by the way. Exact same springs. Did you have any issues with your axles at all? How did your suspension hold up? I’m just bracing myself for all the issues that may arise lol
My end links went started making noise after and my steering rack developed a loud clinching noise
Great video sir!
Liked all your videos very helpful.
Need help n hard to find answers
F32 xdrive with adaptive m suspension can I use h&r springs or what would u recommend
Any comments would be greatly appreciated thanks.
Does this car have a m-sport chassis ? So how many cm is the lowering? Are your rims 18 or 19 inch ? Thanks
Great video. Should I expect this setup on a F30 335i rwd?
Do the springs affect the ride comfort? I have an xDrive and my f30 is surprisingly high.
Great video. Thumbs up
Do the front struts come away in the same way with the adaptive suspension models?
Where did you get that spring compression tool you used for the front? The one you used looks very safe with the c clamps, there is no way for the spring to slip. Do you have a link? Also does X-drive, or the ability to switch suspension modes effect this job at all? Thanks.
What’s the torx socket to the open wrench called
Hello. I have a BMW 2018 330i this is a fit?
Can I use the stock end links with the H&R sport springs? I also have Bilstein B8s if that makes a difference.
yes you can, changing springs does not change the mounting point of the end links on the strut body, you're good to go.
The houses are so nice in your area. Only very few millionaires can live like that here in UK 😂
Almost all houses in a middle class area in the US are like this lol. We have the advantage of a very low cost of living and lots of area compared to Europe
What size wheels width and offset I already lower my 328i an 1.5 inches on eibach
Yes this is what I was talking about.
I'm super late to the game, but what is the wheel/tire size and setup?
Did u need a wheel alignment after this?
Does the X drive and RWD use the same instruction?
I heard lowering springs on stock suspension on xdrive ride really bad
Depends on the springs H&R are makes it awful, AC Schnitzer OTOH are great.
@@perakojot6524 What makes it awful? Are you referring to non-Msport Vs Msport suspension?
I have to agree with the H&R making the ride awful on an XDrive, I have them installed on my F32 XDrive and looking for another alternative. The look is amazing but any bump on the road will make you cringe! Would love to hear what anyone out there has done to rectify this issue........
Ken Cardona just installed h@r springs on my 2011 335i xdrive and the car hits very hard with my snow tires still on. Scared to change over to my Summer wheels and tires now.
Great video! How is the ride compared to stock spring?
VMR WHEELS? Which size of tires are u using? Ty
Which springs can i use for 2015 rear wheel 320i?
Do you know if there are cpe charge pipes for your car?
Great video man!! I was wondering if I lower the front suspension of my F15 BMW 2014 would the rear suspension follow the front by itself since it's self leveling?
I’m thinking if do them same. I don’t want to touch my rear since it is already lower
nice job dude, might do the same to my car.. looks good.
Awesome, thanks! If you have xDrive, the ride is a little rough..
Hey, on this car is a adaptive suspension or normal suspension?
Torque specs would have made this video the nicest.
where do you find the right torque specs?
Can you tell a huge difference in handling??
What are the torque spec for the bolts ?
thank you man! keep it up!
Thanks!
Man it looks hard.. made me wanna pay somebody to do this lol
I'll do it, ha
🙋🏼♂️Bagsy doin the back ones 👨🏼🔧
Great vid
what website is the most reliable and recommended to buy these from??????? thanks
Is it adaptive suspension on this vehicle?
Kies M. Do u think u can help me installed does spring?
What kind of wheels and color are those?
Perfecto bro!
Where can I find that tool for the compression fitting? Instead of using a flat head screw driver like you did.
Something like this is what you need, but I haven't personally tested this one: amzn.to/2vE7vp6