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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2023
- T&L has delivered some of the best group/guild PVP experience i've ever experienced in an MMO. This is a fight our guild lost, but it was still an epic one
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Can't wait for the true endgame and watch Asmon swipe/loose his mind at the upgrade npc.
Is this a raid or you can only PVP in party of 6?
impressive but not sure if i can manage to follow what is happening on the screen, is there solo pvp battles oriented types of events?
God I hope so. hundreds of players just pulling people into their clusterfuck is cheap and boring
The Throne and Liberty is very very exciting game.
This is just Node war people,, Can't wait for Castle siege war
Is there any small scale pvp. like 3v3/ 5v5, 10v10?
This is more like world vs world zerging.
There is pvp events but still doesnt mean u gonna get 5 v 5 or 10 v 10 , mostly like 5 v 5 v 5 v 5 v5 v 5 v 5 v 5 +++++
Not yet but it’s said they will implement small scale pvp. I hope it will be something like Aions dredgion 😅
@@haka5917 im sure in 2 years this mmo will be x10 times better :D
looks bloody good! gives me OG archeage vibes alot.
What server are you on? I picked just a random one but there's almost no english speaking guilds
It might give *YOU* the vibe, but I've done plenty of lvl 50 pvp in T&L and the feel of the combat is HORRIBLE compared to Archeage's smoothness and responsiveness, T&L also has combos but everything is ruined by that janky/slow feeling...
Thankfully Koreans are constantly voicing how much they hate it to the point were NCsoft said they're going to "keep improving it" other than that the game is great
@@Lowthiel yes vibes. didn't say the combat and stuff is the same. definitely a very different and more clunky combat system but I don't mind it. Archeage will always have the most superior combat.
Lets hope for the improvements!
Great video! GVG is great !
I neever see a smoth game like this 🎉❤Its insane MMO with Fps.
I wish there were some abilities that were glashy not all but like 1 ir 2 on each class
Glashy ?
Zergling warfare 😂. Looks interesting though.
People not yet realising how impressive one aspect is. This game is played in KR and it runs butter smooth with all these details supporting DLSS 3.5 you have insane FPS. I have seen on my rig FPS ranging from 100-240. I started MMOS with aion when you got in large scale fps would tank and even encountering one opponent would make your game hikup. It is nothing like that this game looks gorgeous and runs nicely
Those AION fortress sieges are a core memory for me.
@@GamingGuruGabe I am glad am not the only one. I will never forget Aion pvp truly the best for me
Used to clan pk in OSRS miss getting into large clan fights like this makes me really excited for Throne & Liberty to release
Same
@@maxkilla16 Bro clan pking was sooo fun in oldschool runescape I miss it so much even before discord was out having organized clan fights deep out in wilderness or clan wars mini game everyone organized in Teamspeak and having the shot caller or Warlord calling was such a great feeling easily some of my favorite memories from my childhood growing up
Hi, thanks for videos, but have 1 question : What is end game ? if you get max lvl in 2few" days, what to do next ? endless unchanting ? but there is no random, no fails or im wrong ? learn all weapons, how long it will take 1-2 weeks ?
build your purple weaps, skills, get traits. full purple is already gonna take u months, getting them to +9 is gonna be another few months
@@thesteakatstake8920 thanks for answer. So max 2 months of grinding in korean game ? Looks like its game made for west ;) How long it will survive when you got all at max and nothing to do, how many games, without "end game" content survived ? ;)
@@tadasblinda6232 the biggest problem i see is the combat system. Its boring its not BDO combat system sadly
@@JustGameplay112 BDO is not a reference for large scale fights, too much action combat. ESO and GW2 are way better for it
@@tadasblinda6232 which is why this game will be a banger for the first few months as everyone is chasing max build and the game will probably fall off if they add nothing new after that, or if the endgame loop is good or not, we haven't seen it in korea yet
Whats the purpose of node wars?
When is this out I’m Europe?
Looks amazing …
This is war.. With isometric visual😂
This is a real war~~~~~!
It's amazing !!!!!!!
braindead pvp
mimimimimim play dota gringo @@pogo6543211111111
@@pogo6543211111111 if things dealt a bit more damage i think this game will be fun, hard to say what the final release considering they fixed alot of issues since that first early alpha
How is the ping?
I hope there is opportunity for solo type pvp
@@Heathcliff-AincradHmm i have experienced solo pvp while farming in ant nest. Some guy jumped on me, but he couldnt kill me since i can outheal his damage so he gave up.
@@Heathcliff-Aincrad Solo world PVP is way better than zerg vs zerg nontent.. oh listen to braindead orders by someone who acts like a leader and just aoe a bunch.
@aykutsirma sadly many people didnt want pvp zonws so its specific now but every 2 houes u have pvp events plus the gvg and sieges. Its enough to tske away ur thirst for pvp. Plus more will come in the future :)
@@Heathcliff-Aincrad i played lineage 2 from c1 brother :D im with u i wish we see more races more skills but remmeber lineage didnt come out as we know it , mmos evolve and this will evolve too in the future , there is clan halls , there is sieges , there is guild vs guild events , but what i realize threw years is that games like lineage tend to die cz casual players leave , or cz too much pvp people get de motivated, or too much forced pvp or pk's make ppl stop playuing , im with u i love all this stuff cz i was a lineage 2 veteran and addict for many years but balance in everything sometimes its good , we have to give some things away to keep a healthy community , its the truth and they know it cz look at wow pve fiesta and its there. TL can cover both players there is pve , there is pvp.
They went away from the lineage 3 tittle for this reason cz they moved away from it a lot.
dungeons where open pvp areas , night was open pvp whenever a region is in night they removed that too , bosses where always pvp areas now are split some pve some pvp , i know i feel u but its not so terible in the end and literally every other mmo nowdays is dogshit so i am enjoying my time , im having fun , and the moment i wont have fun i will just not play so much.
this weekend i think we have first sieges so thats another one thing to keep an eye on
What T&L need is "PVP ARENAS" like Lost Ark have with some kind of balance and then you keep happy users who like small PVP size, that's all, not so hard to do.
Group PVP looks fun though
It looks like a Modern Shaiya from Aeriagames.
What's with the mob pop-in?
When is the global release
Soon
Healers looks clean in this compared to new world where everywhere is just sacred ground on our screen hard to see anything.
That was intense
I hoped that TL would offer me an experience similar to Aion, but unfortunately not even close.
Aion was a lag fest 😂
@@UruseiYatsubecause of bad engine. If they would do it now, itll be best pvp game again.
@@pajerjekktaion 2
@@pajerjekkt Nah bdo has the best combat system tho. Action combat is so much better
@@UruseiYatsu So sorry for your internet experience you had...
Good Stuff Kanon
It's wild how much this fight reminds me of an EVE Online Fleet battle
The slower combat allows for more tactical decisions to be made on the fly
Omg come on global release. Finally a game I can't wait for, lol.
can u show us all of ur settings please ty
How do u play
the xp loss is scary wtf is that system never saw that
looking good ngl
Is that ngxRauof talking ?
cant wait for it to come out on Xbox when ever that is
It's alright
Is it only me that this pvp scenario feels like Guild Wars 2 ? I mean i was watching the video and i was wondering if i misstyped and this actually Guild Wars 3 :)
Looks a blast. Going to be toxic as hell though lol.
No lag really? is very impressive
Imagine its even korean servers and this is europian guild !
Reminds me of one of my friends giving directions. "Right up... right... no left, left, sorry". It looks ok but tab targeting for ZvZ is just horrific gameplay.
Hype! 🤩
so like any other mmo? Looks fun tho
Well most mmos have severe performance issues with half that many people.. to be fair
@@7128jml true wow struggles once its like past 100+ players
@@whoopsie321 way less than that it's already a struggle
Most of these other MMOs are trending towards solo weirdo shit…..
Bound to wipe with a leader that confuses East with West lol
the son of Lineage 2 !
Can't see anything just health bars and diamonds icons :(
New to pvp in MMOs? You get use to it after a while 😂
watson said he can vod review you
i hope SEA can experience this without vpn when it is out and not just NA/EU
If it is from Amazon, will be the same as lost ark and new world. WHich is only for NA/EU
Albion Online vibes :D
That shot caller is hellah cringe
He's awful to listen to. Repeats everything so many times. I'd rage having to listen to someone like that giving direction. Imagine if gps repeated everything 3 times to you lol. Turn left at the light, left at the light left at the light turn now turn now now now now.
Yeah talking too much
bro thinks he's him
He's saying the most obvious things with an annoying voice. Dude needs to realize some people aren't meant to lead and that's okay.
Archeage 1 лучшая игра для масс пвп
Lol just wait till the albion online player base and zvz callers get into this game
New World is still a good game if you do PVP☝🏻🔥.
i'll never understand the fun in zerging for pvp.
Healthbars are way too big takes up whole screen....shrink those by half
They did good by not making an insane amount of AoE's, this wouldnt be possible with that kind of combat.
Exactly
Tab targeting makes this kind of pvp borring af, aos stuff would make it better
Jesus the dude barking orders is extremely annoying to listen to. I couldn't get past a minute into this video without getting annoyed by this guy's voice.
Cause of your ego
@@Naiceratops he's not the only one - look at the comments xD what has ego to do when you don't like annoying voices XD
Sad game could have been fun
People in comments comparing bdo and tal, you guys clueless. Bdo is action style mmo, more like a beat em up and this is the classic mmorpg combat. Its not nearly the same and uts a matter of taste
Thank you finally a reasonable person lol , one pve focused and other its pvp focused aka action combat vs tab target. Its about taste ! Well done sir
@@ecosti tab target does not mean it's not skill it's just different. If you have range of things you can do to outplay someone tab target can be super fun and we see WOW persisting still today so this style is very acceptable. For me, I like that type of combat in an mmo
@@RaidenLimbSlicer no no i never said tab target has no skill , i would say it has more skill in understanding the game mechanics and using brain than smashing buttons in abnoxious action combat , im all down for the tab target , what i said is action combat cannot support proper mass pvp cz the technology is not there to support it yet
im playing TL everyday i love it , today i create new char with wand , seems really nice :D
Im just talking, not referring to your message in that regard. In any case, the problem for me in BDO is the god damn interface, as a new player i was so confused wtf am i looking at and questiing is boring. The world seems more engaging in TAL@@ecosti
Yep game korea atau cina pasti skill gamenya banyak banget aneh aja gitu wkwk, beda sama New world yg cuman 3 skill. Jadi lebih realistic gitu.
shot caller need some works.
This looks like Albion Online pvp lol
So 1v1 isn't a thing?
Why would it be in guild vs guild
Just how open world pvp I think always ends up working. You either like it or hate it and I unfortunately never want to do open world pvp again for this particular reason. I loved it during DAoC but that's over a decade ago 😅
They have a duel arena thing...just for fun I guess
I’ve found 1v1’s/free for alls at events. Till you run into a decent guild/group 😅
This is a guild vs guild control point event. Solos have no role here. There are free for all PVP events for solos
I also made the error of thinking that this game may give some vibes from Aion, but it is not even comparable. I also tested BDO for a while and it was cool, but really I found nothing better, more dynamic, and more precise than Aion. Guess back to Euroaion then haha :)
Same, for me Aion 4.0-4.7 was the best, and I tried BDO, FF14, Tera, Lost ark, GW2, etc. but nothing was as good as Aion, sadly devs ruined the game by removing content
Yo@@yoshi3706 , Euroaion is 4.6 , you may want to look it up a bit if you are interested . Good luck and I wish you the best my fellow old Aion player !
They have to redo the UI for sure. Maybe this is how they want it but its just looking at HP bars and i really dont like it when its just HP bar wars instead of actually seeing and calling things you see happending. Instead it will be the normal Hop in blow AOE and try to survive and kill the others/time it better then the others.. Hope the PvP overall will be fun in the game tho but maybe 1-5 vs 1-5 will be the best type of PvP.
Great action! But you are going against basic art of war principles :/
And to think we could have had true open world PVP like lineage 2......but the complainers ruined it for us.
pretty nuts, whoever was leading the raid sux tho, guy needs to relax in his life a lil
idk man, most raid leaders are like him, from my experience.
Its look kinda like albion online bruh 😅
mindless zerg
This is such a sad imitation of lineage 2... I cant believe they can get it so wrong 20 years later... maybe another 20 year wait we will have a game on the same level as L2..
Whats crazy about this is pc is playing with console.
this guy need more practice commanding, i suggest you to watch zerg comms from guild wars 2.
It's tab targeting...
damn your leader certainly doesn't know how to be tatical lol. "just push in there under the node", when you do that you literally get surrounded by everyone lol. aaand 10 seconds later this is exactly what happened.
2 prong flank on that node
Yeah, the only thing he knows is attack and retreat, they didn't even divide there clan into teams, or would that be bad? I don't know
@@killerSFA7 nah it's not bad, dividing teams is literally the standard that every good player does because it is so effective.
You would need at least 3 teams for a somewhat coordinated attack.
I was always very successful with 6 teams.
For example, team 1 and 2 attack on the left, team 1 is at the front and team 2 at the back, as soon as team 1 gets low they swap positions with team 2.
Easy to understand, easy to execute and easy to communicate.
On comparison thm having one person shouting in or out is literally worse than no coordination lol.
Zzzz... Zerg numbers combat
Jajajaja re petardos los clanes esos. Easy pizi va ser en latam cuando salga su rejunte armo y los barro facil. Callean tipo callers de albion y esto es l2 papi la que se van a comer jajajaja
LoL......sounds like another Aion siege..... shit im colorblind so this green/yellow is going to suck. Why not make allys blue and enemy red?
게임 옵션에 색약을 보정해주는 옵션이 있습니다.
noone pushing wow..... we had 200 ppl in lineage 2, leader said one word everyone was going in like crazy, wtf is going on in 2024 hahhahaha
Im sorry, no chance against bdo, has hopes ti finally scape it.
That raid leader is way too serious about this.
Of course. They are serious. #1 guild has advantage in castle siege with lots of money.
That’s what shot calling is 😂
Damn playing videogames rly fks with your testosterone levels huh? Cool game tho
Dead in months fr
pathetic draw distance
I wonder why you play with so many players around you. Why not 5vx? I like 1vx or smallscale, but not zergsurfing.
Because that’s a siege
STILL, no open wprld pvp is like Lineage 2 used to have. I mean NOT A SINGLE mmo scratched what l2 had in terms of pvp, pve, dungeons, raids, sieges, wars etc... the karma/flag/pk system was the best. Sadly now all want pve mmo for some mysterious reasons, or "i wanna chill and dont want to engage in pvp at all" -_-
Because people are tired of pay to win.
@@homerl7 i LITERALLY never mentioned p2w but ok.
@@akumawashere6620 I didn't said that you mentioned p2w. It was my answer to your comment on why people want pve. They want pve because always pvp is p2w. People got tired of throwing money on their screen only to find out that someone else threw more money and they are dead on two hits. It's not skill, it's p2w and people are tired.
@@homerl7 yea you are kinda right, but still this is smth the company can fix but me personally IM TIRED of pve. 99% of mmos are pve nowdays and i want smth new. but lets see.. it will be f2p at least 2 months with the hope it doesnt turn to a shitshow pve dungeon simulator
It's ridiculous that the time to get back into the PvP zone is so short, yet the TTK of the RvR is so long. This is extremely bad game design and further reinforces numbers meta, since you just need to stall enough for the morons who were out of position to come back and throw their bodies at the attacking clump again and eventually wear them down.
This needs to be addressed ASAP and included in the next patch. Frankly, it's even embarrassing it got out of design phase and into live servers in the first place. Makes me wonder where their game design team came from cause it sure isn't from Lineage 2.
This is better turned alway down
At least Lineage|| had a few decent p2w-less years under first cronicles, well this TL started from second 1 with hidden but quite game-changing p2w oportunities...
Too hungry developers cannot provide a decent game that's sure.
Seen more than enough of it thanks to Kanonxo's streaming and I won't waste any time in TL as long as real money can obtain easily what a free player hardly grinds in a month or more...
Should have been a simple monthly sub system and keeping a clean game, well this isn't the case that's sure.
Have fun everyone!
for me it seems like slow sluggish and boring PS: i hope the game is good
Kimsenin ne yaptığı belli olmayan, taktiksel savaşların olmadığı yetenek atışlarının belli olmadığı bir oyun pvp sistemi bence rezalet.
Zerg empty game for lamers
that's why the game has already lost 80% players
Dead in 3 months, mark my words
Yup 😂
Looks like such a bad game
Yay another boomer blob PvP game
Yea this game looks boring compared to BDO. Shit eso looks better than this. I couldn't imagine moving that slow.
This look brainless skilless zerg🎉.
zerg vs zerg in tab targeting has gotta be the most boring form of pvp ever lol, this dude's only enjoying this because he's commanding his guildies like $laves.
😭😭 that's thee power fantasy that only the leaders get to experience. This game is dead in a month fam. It has no charm.
i dont understand what the hype is about this game is a black desert trying really hard to be lost ark...... i dont see anything special about this game.
Wow looks terrible