God that look in jesse's eyes and tone of his voice when saying Gus had to go, you can tell that was him struggling to justify killing another person as his guilt from killing Gale still lingers
Jesse was nothing but a liability after walt secured the tuco connection. He was dead weight that ever-increasingly caused problems necessitating Walter’s last-second saves. The writers later must have figured they needed to give Jesse some value and so had him come up with the magnet idea that would have been all Walter, and then the train robbery without detection which would've been up Mike’s sleeve. Even Saul and Skyler would eventually tell Walter to get rid of Jesse. He was a virtue signaling idiot, stealing from Gus, selling to recovering addicts, throwing money out the window.... They took Walter’s father figure devotion and ran with it to the ninth degree... Too far.
"Still, Gus had to go right?" Jesse was asking himself that question, but because he believes he can't tell right from wrong he has to get his answers from people who had him convinced they can
I mean i disagree but the final shot adds a lot it makes you realize that walter is finally no longer a redeeming person he is willing to seriously endanger brock and poison him and in the end it doesn't matter if walt was even indending for brock to pull through because he is now because the most human part left of him is his care for his family but those who are on the outside can be another heisenburg victim if it benefits walt Walt He truelly is a monster
0:15 : Not necessarily "Thank god that kid I don't know will be ok", but "Thank god that kid I POISONED is going to be ok, and I didn't overdo the poisoning"
Walt's a master chemist. He exactly knew the right amount of poison berries needed to keep Brock alive. No wonder Hank used Walt as his chemist to build his drug empire.
@@indra607 “Walt’s a master chemist. He exactly knew the right amount of poison berries needed to keep Brock alive.” Heh, actually, botanical compounds (including toxins) can vary widely from berry to berry. It’s not likely that anyone can know exactly how many plant parts are required. That’s why in Chinese medicine, there have been quite a few accidental poisonings with aconite, because the amount of aconite from plant to plant isn’t the same so that dosage is more difficult to predict and get consistently right.
0:15 that’s a genuine reaction from Walt. Jesse reads it as “here’s a man who’s just glad to hear that a child will survive a trying ordeal” but really it’s just Walt feeling relief that he didn’t actually murder a child which we see even more clearly when Jesse leaves at 2:00
@@Alphanumeric69 But it was still a risky move that could’ve easily gone wrong given he didn’t know anything about Brock’s medical history. The doctors said it was touch and go. He was in legit danger at first and Walter was probably scared.
The moment when you find out the 19th century story of a Dutch woman from the valley named Lilly, who accidentally poisoned herself with the shrub “Waltaris Blancus”, popularly known as Stinky Heisenberg... Chilling. Bravo Vince.
I so wish Jesse had stayed out of the business at this point. Having a family, even a borrowed one, was such a good thing for him, all ruined by the end
Never noticed this, but at 1:53 the camera angle is symbolic of a prison or entrapment. Showing the hold Walter has over Jesse. This is cool because this camera angle switch happens for the hand shake that Walter initiates.
@@gianni3228 I doubt it. It's a common film/photography trick that people use. Plus think of the logistics of it. You think he decided to film in the lower floor of the parking garage for laughs? Of course not. Vince has show many times during the filming of breaking bad that he has a good eye on how things should be captured. He makes excellent craft moves along with the actors. That is why even after this show has been finished for years, it still has such a positive following.
Supposedly Bryan Cranston didnt know if Walt did it or it was an accident in this scene. It was reveled to him short while after the shoot. They wanted Walter to be like a real extreme narcissist, able to murder a child but in their own heads blame the child, and really mean it, for being dumb enough to eat their candy laced poison or koolaid
Sort of, he didn't know about it in the scene where Jesse confronts Walt about it, Bryan didn't know that Walt was completely manipulating him in that scene as he hadn't received the script for this episode.
This is MASSIVE It proves to us that Walter is an even bigger genius and a better manipulator than even Gus He had planned everything What a way to end the season
The whole dynamic of the show is based all around antagonists. Think about it, all of these characters are breaking the law to an extreme. Harming their consumers with dangerous and highly addictive drugs. And money laundering is a huge crime too. Hank, Marie, Junior and the side characters like Steve Gomez Etc. Are your true protagonists.
@@tyrone1060 I never said I wasn’t rooting for Walt, but once you rewatch it so many times you begin to really understand the dynamic of the show on a deeper level.
@@GuTsMattt Don't be dumb. Antagonist doesn't mean 'bad' or 'good' it means the opposer of the protaganist (main character) for example. Let's take a show like Death Note. The main character is called Light Yagami who is 'evil' but he is the protagonist and there is a 'good' person who's name is Lawliet but he is the antagonist because it doesn't matter that he is good he is opposing the main character.
I wasn't one of the original subscribers to Walt poisoned Brock until it was confirmed. Rewatching again, you realize Walter losing his composure at the end isn't relief at this being over - its relief that he didn't kill Brock AND didn't get caught.
I think this was a kind of...turning point for the show, at least for me. After Gus, and Jack and Tod came on, the show started down it's darkest path, and rarely came back up for light. Also, not implying that as a bad thing, I love the whole show. It's just Breaking Bad has always been a kind of dark comedy, etc, but as soon as Tod and Jack came along, it feels everything spiraled into darkness. Not a flaw, just interesting
After Gus was killed, there was no one holding back Walt from his desires for power (except for maybe Mike). With no Gus, Heisenberg is totally free and all his remaining morality is gone. After poisoning Brock, Walt reached a point of no return, sending a mesage that he would do ANYTHING to get what he wants. After season 4, Heisenberg staged the murders of 10 prisoners in 2 minutes, went to Hank's house after the muders just to see his misery, killed Mike out of rage, psichologically abused Skyler, became the only leader of the drug trade, and makes Saul scared by just looking at him in a certain way. By winning over Fring, Walt gets all the power for himself and ultimately becomes the one who knocks during s5 ep1-8
Exactly my process. I watched all of BB years ago when it aired but I’ve on many occasions thought to myself that something just felt “different” about the show once season 5 started. I guess it goes to show how good the writing and acting was for this show. Felt almost eerie, and beyond dark n evil. It had been bad before but once Gus died , it definitely felt more dark and truly evil. It’s a modern masterpiece to me and is a sentimental show considering I watched the entire thing with my late mother
This scene added just a little twist for me. As soon as Gus said he would help and let Jesse take the time off, I knew Walt was involved in the poisoning of the kid. The scene basically confirmed. It is the victory of a man who had no agency through most of his life and now has gone to the extreme to get his way.
@@joseluis5055 why should Walts ‘family’ (already fractured beyond any repair, despite the progress made in s5), take so much precedence that a child needs to be poisoned? Like a 7 year old child placed in hospital because of Walts delusional that his family is the only thing important in the entire world, nobody else matters. Why are people trying to justify Walt.
I literally couldn't put it past me that Walt, out of all actions, could TRULY do what he did. When you think about it, poisoning a child is perhaps one of the most evil acts one can do next to cold blooded murder or torture of an innocent. This is the moment where I REALLY started to see Walt in a way I never thought I did. I really hate that Walt felt he had to do such a thing. There could have been another way and what he did just really sickens me and makes me feel that Jesse REALLY was the hero of this entire series.
@@fr00tloops Walt needed Jesse's help to kill Gus. So to get him on his side, he stole Jesse's ricin cigarette and poisoned Brock with the flower (not with the ricin bc that would've actually killed him) and framed Gus for it. So ofc this got Jesse back on Walts side to help him out.
@@damonlopez2197 Walt couldve just gotten Jonesy to teach him how to build. He couldve cranked 90s on Gus then one pumped him, ending in a victory royale default dance
This really shows how dangerous Walt is. He spent his whole life suppressing his pride and ego, and everything bursted from him through his life in the underworld. I really do wonder what would be Walt’s life if he just made the right decision and stayed at Grey Matter or even Sandia labs, perhaps he’d still be egotistical, but he wouldn’t be such a manipulator in the show
He probably wouldn’t be a manipulator,because there would be no need for it.He would have had the lifestyle he always wanted:A woman who loves him,a successful multibillion corporation which focuses on what he is good at,and not the problems we see him having in the show.Also,even if at that point he got lung cancer,he would have already lived the lifestyle and experiences he was destined to profit from.
He literally dump Gretchen because her family was rich and it hurts his ego. If he stayed it would means he got through his ego problem so probably not gonna get as bad as this.
@@tyrone1060 Same timeline and same location though. He's asking if this is the same rooftop parking garage where Kim and Jimmy argued in one of the BCS episodes. A totally reasonable question
Smart? Yes walts very good at playing with peoples minds and getting them to bend to his will. Horrible? Yes he poisoned a kid who was hospitalized, causing suffering to both Brock and Jesse.
@@blazerivers3000 Walt knew he was losing Jesse the way Gus and Mike was treating Jesse. Walt also knew Jesse wouldn't believe him so he took the risk by poisoning the kid without any intention of killing. Considering Walt's life was on the line if Gus managed to get Jesse's loyalty, I guess he was desperate and didnt have any choice.
There were points in the early half of season 5 that showed that Walts ego was having a direct impact on his relationships to his family and even to people like Jesse and Saul. Jesse, for example, wanted out of the business. Walt didn’t want to believe his own mentee wanted to quit and give up. He tried placing blame on all the murders on Jesse “Gale, and the rest.”. Saul didn’t want to have any part in representing Walt after what happened in getting Gus killed. Walt didn’t take that at all and Saul followed suit.
I never hated Walt for this because he's not a real person. The show is great because it demonstrates how good and evil can express themselves through many archetypal 'people' and their motivations. It's silly to waste hatred, love, or 'judgment' on constructed characters that are best tasted and appreciated as reflections of human behavior.
One of the greatest plot twist I've ever seen, still whenever I watch the whole serie again I got astounded by it, isn't the same emotion but anyways is 🤯🤯
Here is interesting information from ancient sources. Lily of the Valley is mentioned 15 times in the Bible. Lily of the valley is mentioned 8 times in Song of Solomon (Old Testament) According to legend the flower comes from the tears that Eve shed when she was expelled from the Garden of Eden with Adam. Mugheeth "Muguet" son of Adam and Eve The Lily of the Valley is also known as May Bells (Baals) and Muguet. According to German legends the flower is linked to the goddess of spring Ostara also known as Ishtar and the holiday tradition called Easter traces back to the Sumerians. Eostre "Easter" legend According to legend a rabbit who wanted to please the goddess Eostre, laid sacred eggs in her honor, decorated them, and presented them to her. Ostara "Ēostre" "Easter" Ostara and "Ēostre" other names for Inanna "Ishtar" "Astarte"
To anyone confused how Walt poisoned Brock, the man made a pipe bomb with a bunch of scraps and managed to outsmart someone who destroyed the entire cartel, I think he’d probably have no trouble poisoning a little boy
Just finished this season… this writing was so creative I see why people put this show on a pedestal… season 4 episode 12 the music and everything around the scene where Walt was spinning the gun was so good. Then proceeding to show what the gun was really pointing at the end of episode 13 which happened to be the same pot was a good touch.. let alone the acting between the whole cast……. 🔥
This April my cat almost died from a UTI and was in and out of the vet for a month. I saw him in so much pain, and I saw the uncertain look on the vet's face so many times. If I found out someone I knew caused it to happen, I'd probably be as incomprehensibly angry as Jesse ended up being later.
Jesse had to have at least some suspicions about the whole situation but his loyalty to Walt likely made him doubt himself on whether he could've actually done it
This was the point where I lost all respect for Walt this was just evil, before this mostly everything he did was somewhat justifyable but this combined with Jane's death proves just how much of a monster he became
It's a slippery slope once you take a turn down a dark road. You keep justifying your actions, lieing to yourself, each time, searing your conscience even further.
I only have about a dozen issues with the storylines from BB. I love...love...love...love...BB. But Vince and Peter doesn't provide a single clue into how Walter poisoned the child. When it happened, how it happened, how the kid put it into his mouth, when it started affecting him...nothing. "It just happened somehow."
@@trojandarkhorse2022 Well....then showing how Walt poisoned the kid without anyone knowing would be the same as not explaining what the kid was poisoned with. They could have just said - "He was poisoned" and Walt somehow did it. THINK
@@lauranm2k939 Showing HOW he poisoned him? No...i would not have ruined the reveal. If Walt would have noticed a candy bar and just picked it up or pretending to read the box on Brock's cereal...it would have simply given a clue.
@@carlrosa1130 But there weren’t supposed to be any clues, tipping off that Walter could’ve been the one to use the “Ricin” would completely destroy the purpose of the scene where Jessie is going to shoot Walter, because you know he may be manipulating Jesse, despite the fact that we the audience assume he would never do something like that.
I would like to know, how could jesse forget and then go to halk thinking it was the other poison while he already knew from the doctor's tests in this episode here that it was lily
@@hammies. Ever since this episode aired, I also thought that it was the sound of someone breathing deeply & secretly watching Walt & Jesse. I assumed that the writers were planting the seeds for the next season & later decided to abandon that particular story line in it's premiere. I read archimedes' comment, & can now easily tell that it's simply screeching tires. That's really interesting that so many people misheard it in the exact same way. I always thought that it was the lone moment of sloppy storytelling in BB, so it's nice to know that I was wrong.
@@davidscoville2636 I think the timing too how it cut to the angle then the breathing sounding part makes it seem like it was someone supposed to be watching them. If it was for something that was cut and it was breathing then it's pretty funny how someone was watching them randomly and then never brought it up again, likely someone eavesdropping
It was Chris Mara. One of Gus’ guys. He drove Gus to the nursing home where Gus got killed. He killed Chow and gets killed by Mike in season 5. He appears in the background in the scene where Gus threatens to kill his family standing next to his little white car shown in this scene.
Absolutely loved walt. Gus was my fav character and i supported him against walt. Then he passed away and i supported walt. And jesse just pissed me off so much
Was Walt right to poison Brock? On one hand he hurt a kid so badly he had to spend a few days at a hospital, on the other if he hadn't done that Gus would have whacked him and his entire family
this is easily one of the best scenes of the entire show for me. it is very poignant and the emotion is palpable. they both have a moment to breathe and relax as a team. sure you can say walt lied and all that, but it was really for the greater good. he really didnt do any harm to jesse nor brock. their handshake here is genuine and sweet. imo jesse was moreso manipulated by gus to be turned against walt. jesse was in a very emotional state up until this point, which is why he needed the reassurance ("right?") that killing gus was the objectively right move for both of them to carry on a better life together as a duo. through the handshake, walt is genuinely happy to have jesse back on his side again (emphasized visually as they're both on the right side of the red pole) and i'd like to think walt missed him when they were at such odds in the second half of this season. as jesse leaves and walt realizes his crazy plan has finally culminated, walt is overrun with the emotion he's gone through with jesse and with himself. very touching scene in all.
@@Xkid19 jesse gets manipulated by everyone. Jane, Walt, Hank, Gus. Walt had to take extreme measures to save his family and Hank. Jesse had betrayed him and sided with psycho Gus.
@@Sophie-mv7bdYou mean after Jesse went insane because Gus killed one of his friends and Walt had to sacrifice his whole reputation for his life? It's Jesse's fault that Gus hates Walt. And even then, he stupidly falls into Gus' hands despite knowing well how Gus is planning to eventually replace him.
then doesnt show the lily of the valley plant. I came here to find out whose yard that was.I take it by the comments it was walt ;didnt see that coming. just now watching the series, because watched 5 seasons of better call saul and wanted more of that. only one more ep of bb then wait a year for the final season of bcs. i wanna watch el camino but i sure hope its not as sad as bb.
SO, at the end of season 4 Jesse thinks that he RANDOMLY lost his ricin cigarette which he has been guarding closely, the very same day that brock RANDOMLY poisons himself, which makes him turn on gus? something like that does not happen. He should have realized than and there this was elaborately planned.
Walt may think his plan to poison brock is brilliant but little does he know he’s plotting his own downfall. Jesse was insanely loyal to Walt before it came out that Walt poisoned A CHILD to manipulate Jesse.
1:46 still like how this handshake manages to tell Walter’s ego by pulling Jesse’s arm. I heard that many politicians and leaders pull another party members arm in a handshake to display power over them and looking at this and how Walter always wants to manipulate Jesse is very terrifying
@@Norwoodg00ner I think Walt himself did it. When he visited Brock and Andrea in s5, Brock did not like Walt around him. Brock knew he was poisoned by him, or atleast was suspicious.
So if it was known Brock didn't get ricin, that the ricin in that cigarette never went anywhere anyone knows of, then why was the suspected lifting of that cigarette still such a trigger point for Jesse? I feel like that was the biggest reach in the series for Jesse to be still so excessively hung up on that cigarette that never did anything.
Ben Spagnuolo If Walt hadn't killed him he would've killed his entire family. Gus made that very clear. I don't like that he bombed a nursing home but Walt was right. He had to go.
Yeah Walter did Jesse a damn solid, if Walt just let Gus kill him, and stayed outta the way, he and Gus and Gale could be the best of the besties forever lol
During the awkward dinner scene with Walt Skyler and Jesse: "Walt, whatever happened to that lilly of the valley plant I kept in the backyard? That was expensive" Jesse: 😮
Walt was so smart when Jesse said "kids eat them sometimes and poison themselves" like bruh Walter was on another level of thinking when he planned this out and etc
This move is clever af but i never blamed walter for what he had done, jesse should helped walter kill gus because gus will kill them both when he got a chance. But instead jesse hesitated on helping walter resulting walter to trick jesse into helping him. Just use ur brain and think who is the one that wanted jesse dead at first place??? It is gus how can u think of helping gus instead of walter who is in this mess because of saving jesse
@MX 3 pride is pretty important. The world could use more of it. With regards to the kid, it was a smart play, and maybe the only one. You could argue it's Jesse's fault for getting so emotionally involved and allowing loved ones to be vulnerable...
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God that look in jesse's eyes and tone of his voice when saying Gus had to go, you can tell that was him struggling to justify killing another person as his guilt from killing Gale still lingers
Might be a hot take but I think aaron paul is the best actor in the series (but everyone is perfect)
'What about the people we killed ; Jesse? Like Gale and the others. Think about it'
Jesse was nothing but a liability after walt secured the tuco connection. He was dead weight that ever-increasingly caused problems necessitating Walter’s last-second saves. The writers later must have figured they needed to give Jesse some value and so had him come up with the magnet idea that would have been all Walter, and then the train robbery without detection which would've been up Mike’s sleeve. Even Saul and Skyler would eventually tell Walter to get rid of Jesse. He was a virtue signaling idiot, stealing from Gus, selling to recovering addicts, throwing money out the window.... They took Walter’s father figure devotion and ran with it to the ninth degree... Too far.
@@carljohnson8732 Gus would have killed Walt in S4 if it werent for Jesse
It's why he has to get validated by Walt, asks stuff like "he's got to go, right?"
The fact that Walt was able to look him in the eyes and lie to him was so painful. He was beyond morals at that point.
Not really. Jesse owed him a favor and was acting like a traitor
Jesse was being a traitor and putting walts livelihood at risk
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 he already payed back that Favor when he killed Gale
@@sxnses are you stupid
Nah, Walt had become, in the words of Nietzsche, Beyobd Good and Evil. He's Based and Redpilled.
"Still, Gus had to go right?" Jesse was asking himself that question, but because he believes he can't tell right from wrong he has to get his answers from people who had him convinced they can
Ofc he had to go, its either jesse and walt or gus, he is stupid to think that.
I'm not sure who the better actor is, Bryan Cranston or Walter White.
damn good one
Bryan Cranston lol.
Lol!!! Walt defs is putting on an Oscar performance
Bryan because he has to pull off a convincing performance against Jesse
Me
This scene means nothing without the last shot of the episode.
ngl , i sat in silence watching credits Contemplating for almost a minute, The plot twist was too big lol
I mean i disagree but the final shot adds a lot it makes you realize that walter is finally no longer a redeeming person he is willing to seriously endanger brock and poison him and in the end it doesn't matter if walt was even indending for brock to pull through because he is now because the most human part left of him is his care for his family but those who are on the outside can be another heisenburg victim if it benefits walt
Walt He truelly is a monster
@@somedorkydude6483 he had been irredeemable for a long time lol
please explain
Good thing The last shot of the episode is available to watch.
To this day, still one of the greatest plot twists in tv show/film history
0:15 : Not necessarily "Thank god that kid I don't know will be ok", but "Thank god that kid I POISONED is going to be ok, and I didn't overdo the poisoning"
Yeah he wasnt faking he was relieved but jessie didnt know how much.
Walt's a master chemist. He exactly knew the right amount of poison berries needed to keep Brock alive. No wonder Hank used Walt as his chemist to build his drug empire.
@@indra607 “Walt’s a master chemist. He exactly knew the right amount of poison berries needed to keep Brock alive.” Heh, actually, botanical compounds (including toxins) can vary widely from berry to berry. It’s not likely that anyone can know exactly how many plant parts are required. That’s why in Chinese medicine, there have been quite a few accidental poisonings with aconite, because the amount of aconite from plant to plant isn’t the same so that dosage is more difficult to predict and get consistently right.
@@mechadoggy is this what joe did
@@indra607 Jesus, it's Bminerals, not Brock!
I love how he shakes his hand like 'thanks for being the clueless pawn in my machiavellian plot, buddy'
“Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros.” -George R.R. Martin
@@jackolas4400Not even remotely true
@@acat6145 take it up with Martin lol i was just sharing the quote
0:15 that’s a genuine reaction from Walt. Jesse reads it as “here’s a man who’s just glad to hear that a child will survive a trying ordeal” but really it’s just Walt feeling relief that he didn’t actually murder a child which we see even more clearly when Jesse leaves at 2:00
He tells Jesse he had it all measured out so he wouldn't die though
@@Alphanumeric69
But it was still a risky move that could’ve easily gone wrong given he didn’t know anything about Brock’s medical history. The doctors said it was touch and go. He was in legit danger at first and Walter was probably scared.
The moment when you find out the 19th century story of a Dutch woman from the valley named Lilly, who accidentally poisoned herself with the shrub “Waltaris Blancus”, popularly known as Stinky Heisenberg... Chilling. Bravo Vince.
You got me in the first half
It’s actually German folklore, originally written by Werner Ziegler
I like how you're referencing Walter Blanco instead of Walter White
@@themetalmario77 scientists for some reason call a lot of the nature Latin things
@@clursunny Welllll erm uhhmmm i dont care and its still a walter blanco in my head
I so wish Jesse had stayed out of the business at this point. Having a family, even a borrowed one, was such a good thing for him, all ruined by the end
We cant have a happy ending for these people, it shows us a wrong lesson.
Yep, you shouldn't race mix, that's why she had to die. Should have stuck with a proper white girl, like jane.
@@vighneshkoalapan8851 ayo what
@@vighneshkoalapan8851 follow your leader
@@vighneshkoalapan8851 Indian moment
The sad thing about breaking bad is rewatching it again with the hope that the story takes another turn and ends better
Never noticed this, but at 1:53 the camera angle is symbolic of a prison or entrapment. Showing the hold Walter has over Jesse. This is cool because this camera angle switch happens for the hand shake that Walter initiates.
No way
bravo Vince
You might be overthinking that one
@@gianni3228 I doubt it. It's a common film/photography trick that people use. Plus think of the logistics of it. You think he decided to film in the lower floor of the parking garage for laughs? Of course not. Vince has show many times during the filming of breaking bad that he has a good eye on how things should be captured. He makes excellent craft moves along with the actors. That is why even after this show has been finished for years, it still has such a positive following.
@@Swayonaise true, I hope you’re right that would be pretty damn smart
Supposedly Bryan Cranston didnt know if Walt did it or it was an accident in this scene. It was reveled to him short while after the shoot. They wanted Walter to be like a real extreme narcissist, able to murder a child but in their own heads blame the child, and really mean it, for being dumb enough to eat their candy laced poison or koolaid
Sort of, he didn't know about it in the scene where Jesse confronts Walt about it, Bryan didn't know that Walt was completely manipulating him in that scene as he hadn't received the script for this episode.
"Walter White is a bigger monster than anyone in Westeros"
- George R.R. Martin
He actually said that? 😂
@@starkiler13 yes in his notablog when final episode of bb aired
That’s not really true and I don’t think it should be taken seriously either
Just a wholesome reunion of a former teacher and his favourite student. So touching.
Rewatching this makes you realize and rethink a lot of things
These two acting skills are outstanding
*Three, including Walter White.
This is MASSIVE
It proves to us that Walter is an even bigger genius and a better manipulator than even Gus
He had planned everything
What a way to end the season
Never hated the protagonist of a show so much until I watched this. Awesome show
The whole dynamic of the show is based all around antagonists. Think about it, all of these characters are breaking the law to an extreme. Harming their consumers with dangerous and highly addictive drugs. And money laundering is a huge crime too. Hank, Marie, Junior and the side characters like Steve Gomez Etc. Are your true protagonists.
Don't pretend as if you weren't rooting for the main character like everyone else was. I swear, people be switching up just to appear virtuous.
@@GuTsMattt but even hank, Marie and even junior break bad a little in the series.
@@tyrone1060 I never said I wasn’t rooting for Walt, but once you rewatch it so many times you begin to really understand the dynamic of the show on a deeper level.
@@GuTsMattt Don't be dumb. Antagonist doesn't mean 'bad' or 'good' it means the opposer of the protaganist (main character) for example. Let's take a show like Death Note. The main character is called Light Yagami who is 'evil' but he is the protagonist and there is a 'good' person who's name is Lawliet but he is the antagonist because it doesn't matter that he is good he is opposing the main character.
I wasn't one of the original subscribers to Walt poisoned Brock until it was confirmed. Rewatching again, you realize Walter losing his composure at the end isn't relief at this being over - its relief that he didn't kill Brock AND didn't get caught.
I always wondered if Walt had borrowed one of Saul's shirts in this
The nose bandage and the green shift in these few episodes, to me, are iconic and Walt's best look I think. He comes across as soo badass and cool lol
@@jaycuthbert245 you're goddamn right!
Better Call Walt ! Can poison you and sace you the same day
Better Call Walt !
@@jaycuthbert245 I love how in breaking bad, even Walt's physical body changes throught the seasons, i actually think this is his best look too lol.
I think this was a kind of...turning point for the show, at least for me. After Gus, and Jack and Tod came on, the show started down it's darkest path, and rarely came back up for light. Also, not implying that as a bad thing, I love the whole show. It's just Breaking Bad has always been a kind of dark comedy, etc, but as soon as Tod and Jack came along, it feels everything spiraled into darkness. Not a flaw, just interesting
pretty sure that was by deliberate design and made BB amazing.
After Gus was killed, there was no one holding back Walt from his desires for power (except for maybe Mike). With no Gus, Heisenberg is totally free and all his remaining morality is gone. After poisoning Brock, Walt reached a point of no return, sending a mesage that he would do ANYTHING to get what he wants. After season 4, Heisenberg staged the murders of 10 prisoners in 2 minutes, went to Hank's house after the muders just to see his misery, killed Mike out of rage, psichologically abused Skyler, became the only leader of the drug trade, and makes Saul scared by just looking at him in a certain way. By winning over Fring, Walt gets all the power for himself and ultimately becomes the one who knocks during s5 ep1-8
Exactly my process. I watched all of BB years ago when it aired but I’ve on many occasions thought to myself that something just felt “different” about the show once season 5 started. I guess it goes to show how good the writing and acting was for this show. Felt almost eerie, and beyond dark n evil. It had been bad before but once Gus died , it definitely felt more dark and truly evil. It’s a modern masterpiece to me and is a sentimental show considering I watched the entire thing with my late mother
@@donovan_9794 Hopefully you're doing well right now brother. May her soul Rest in Peace.
@@Fahad-bg4cj likewise to you and I appreciate it!
This scene added just a little twist for me. As soon as Gus said he would help and let Jesse take the time off, I knew Walt was involved in the poisoning of the kid. The scene basically confirmed. It is the victory of a man who had no agency through most of his life and now has gone to the extreme to get his way.
Rightly and deservedly so - Jesse was a lowlife betraying Walter at every step
My favorite scene. Really shows the evil monster Walt has become.
For protecting his family against Gus? Yeah, right.
@@BlasterzHD yeah. As ruthless as Walter was. He tried to keep heisenberg away from home and innocent people.
@@BlasterzHD for literally poisoning a child
@@BlasterzHD just because someone does something evil for the right reasons doesn't mean it's not evil
@@joseluis5055 why should Walts ‘family’ (already fractured beyond any repair, despite the progress made in s5), take so much precedence that a child needs to be poisoned? Like a 7 year old child placed in hospital because of Walts delusional that his family is the only thing important in the entire world, nobody else matters. Why are people trying to justify Walt.
This is probably the only show with a reveal that tore me apart.
The last shot of the episode had me screaming
I had biggest chills in my life watching that scene, I didn’t know until the very end
1:13 and then think back to everything in BCS and everything Gus went through makes this more emphasizing
1:50 Their posture being so similar was probably intentional
I literally couldn't put it past me that Walt, out of all actions, could TRULY do what he did. When you think about it, poisoning a child is perhaps one of the most evil acts one can do next to cold blooded murder or torture of an innocent. This is the moment where I REALLY started to see Walt in a way I never thought I did. I really hate that Walt felt he had to do such a thing. There could have been another way and what he did just really sickens me and makes me feel that Jesse REALLY was the hero of this entire series.
Well I would poison a kid to prevent me and my family from being murdered 10/10
Why did he use the flower poison?? I haven't watched the show in forever and I don't remember what happened around this arc
@@fr00tloops Walt needed Jesse's help to kill Gus. So to get him on his side, he stole Jesse's ricin cigarette and poisoned Brock with the flower (not with the ricin bc that would've actually killed him) and framed Gus for it. So ofc this got Jesse back on Walts side to help him out.
@@damonlopez2197 Walt couldve just gotten Jonesy to teach him how to build. He couldve cranked 90s on Gus then one pumped him, ending in a victory royale default dance
who did he torture?
Walts acting while acting Lml
What's Lml?
@@RIFLQ laughing mad loud
@@RIFLQ Its slang from the ghetto part of the internet, just use lmao like normal people have for 20 years.
Thanks, you guys are awesome lel
@@gratedradish6699 wym by ghetto then
This really shows how dangerous Walt is. He spent his whole life suppressing his pride and ego, and everything bursted from him through his life in the underworld. I really do wonder what would be Walt’s life if he just made the right decision and stayed at Grey Matter or even Sandia labs, perhaps he’d still be egotistical, but he wouldn’t be such a manipulator in the show
Yo omg hii
He probably wouldn’t be a manipulator,because there would be no need for it.He would have had the lifestyle he always wanted:A woman who loves him,a successful multibillion corporation which focuses on what he is good at,and not the problems we see him having in the show.Also,even if at that point he got lung cancer,he would have already lived the lifestyle and experiences he was destined to profit from.
He literally dump Gretchen because her family was rich and it hurts his ego. If he stayed it would means he got through his ego problem so probably not gonna get as bad as this.
0:15 walt genuinely relief that he doesn't kill the kid and his plan is working
is this where kim and jimmy argued or am i tripping
Lmaoooo that's a different show
@@tyrone1060 Same timeline and same location though. He's asking if this is the same rooftop parking garage where Kim and Jimmy argued in one of the BCS episodes. A totally reasonable question
@@Jdb63 Oh okay. Yeah honestly it might be.
Looks like it yes
Would this be another easter egg?
I don’t think I’m a good person because I never hated Walt for this. The kid lived and it was a genius play on walts part
Smart? Yes walts very good at playing with peoples minds and getting them to bend to his will. Horrible? Yes he poisoned a kid who was hospitalized, causing suffering to both Brock and Jesse.
@@blazerivers3000 Walt knew he was losing Jesse the way Gus and Mike was treating Jesse. Walt also knew Jesse wouldn't believe him so he took the risk by poisoning the kid without any intention of killing.
Considering Walt's life was on the line if Gus managed to get Jesse's loyalty, I guess he was desperate and didnt have any choice.
There were points in the early half of season 5 that showed that Walts ego was having a direct impact on his relationships to his family and even to people like Jesse and Saul. Jesse, for example, wanted out of the business. Walt didn’t want to believe his own mentee wanted to quit and give up. He tried placing blame on all the murders on Jesse “Gale, and the rest.”. Saul didn’t want to have any part in representing Walt after what happened in getting Gus killed. Walt didn’t take that at all and Saul followed suit.
@@tankdogization Id like to think that despite his ego, he didn't want to be alone in the criminal world.
I never hated Walt for this because he's not a real person.
The show is great because it demonstrates how good and evil can express themselves through many archetypal 'people' and their motivations.
It's silly to waste hatred, love, or 'judgment' on constructed characters that are best tasted and appreciated as reflections of human behavior.
look at how walt has complete control over their handshake and even pulls jesse towards him. sigh.
should've cut to the scene where Lily of the Valley was found in Walter's backyard for more context
One of the greatest plot twist I've ever seen, still whenever I watch the whole serie again I got astounded by it, isn't the same emotion but anyways is 🤯🤯
That handshake. That. Handshake.
This could have been a perfect ending for fixing good
that wasnt heisenberg saying thank god
Here is interesting information from ancient sources.
Lily of the Valley is mentioned 15 times in the Bible.
Lily of the valley is mentioned 8 times in Song of Solomon (Old Testament)
According to legend the flower comes from the tears that Eve shed when she was expelled from the Garden of Eden with Adam.
Mugheeth "Muguet" son of Adam and Eve
The Lily of the Valley is also known as May Bells (Baals) and Muguet.
According to German legends
the flower is linked to the goddess of spring Ostara also known as Ishtar and the holiday tradition called Easter traces back to the Sumerians.
Eostre "Easter" legend
According to legend a rabbit who wanted to please the goddess Eostre, laid sacred eggs in her honor, decorated them, and presented them to her.
Ostara "Ēostre" "Easter"
Ostara and "Ēostre" other names for Inanna "Ishtar" "Astarte"
Lol people in this comment section really out here supporting Walt poisoning a child.
Ikr
Bb fans are so stupid
How can’t Jesse see through Walt’s community theatre level acting
To anyone confused how Walt poisoned Brock, the man made a pipe bomb with a bunch of scraps and managed to outsmart someone who destroyed the entire cartel, I think he’d probably have no trouble poisoning a little boy
I would not mind if the show ended right here
I never really understood how Walter was so good at lying to Jesse but not to Skyler
Two amazing actors
This is one of the only times I’ve seen Jesse wear short sleeve lol
*"I watched Jane die."*
Still trying to figure out why Walt poisoned Brock…
To convince Jesse to turn against Gus, by lying that Gus had poisoned Brock with the ricin
The guys That born in 2010 Meets the guy That born in 2000:
Just finished this season… this writing was so creative I see why people put this show on a pedestal… season 4 episode 12 the music and everything around the scene where Walt was spinning the gun was so good. Then proceeding to show what the gun was really pointing at the end of episode 13 which happened to be the same pot was a good touch.. let alone the acting between the whole cast……. 🔥
This April my cat almost died from a UTI and was in and out of the vet for a month. I saw him in so much pain, and I saw the uncertain look on the vet's face so many times. If I found out someone I knew caused it to happen, I'd probably be as incomprehensibly angry as Jesse ended up being later.
Jesse had to have at least some suspicions about the whole situation but his loyalty to Walt likely made him doubt himself on whether he could've actually done it
The Acting in the show is phenomenal…
Bravo Walter!
This was the collective moment where the audience lost any and all reasoning to excuse Walter's actions.
This was the point where I lost all respect for Walt this was just evil, before this mostly everything he did was somewhat justifyable but this combined with Jane's death proves just how much of a monster he became
It's a slippery slope once you take a turn down a dark road. You keep justifying your actions, lieing to yourself, each time, searing your conscience even further.
Moral of the episode stands
"Survival of the fittest".
I only have about a dozen issues with the storylines from BB. I love...love...love...love...BB. But Vince and Peter doesn't provide a single clue into how Walter poisoned the child. When it happened, how it happened, how the kid put it into his mouth, when it started affecting him...nothing. "It just happened somehow."
Not everything happens on screen...otherwise this show would've been like 10 seasons long.....
@@trojandarkhorse2022 Well....then showing how Walt poisoned the kid without anyone knowing would be the same as not explaining what the kid was poisoned with. They could have just said - "He was poisoned" and Walt somehow did it. THINK
@@carlrosa1130 Showing how Walt poisoned Brock would've ruined the reveal at the end of the finale.
@@lauranm2k939 Showing HOW he poisoned him? No...i would not have ruined the reveal. If Walt would have noticed a candy bar and just picked it up or pretending to read the box on Brock's cereal...it would have simply given a clue.
@@carlrosa1130 But there weren’t supposed to be any clues, tipping off that Walter could’ve been the one to use the “Ricin” would completely destroy the purpose of the scene where Jessie is going to shoot Walter, because you know he may be manipulating Jesse, despite the fact that we the audience assume he would never do something like that.
I would like to know, how could jesse forget and then go to halk thinking it was the other poison while he already knew from the doctor's tests in this episode here that it was lily
1:53 who is breathing in this scene? kinda creepy
I think it is just tires screeching man
@@archkull yeah you're right. just listened to it on my headphones and it sounded different than how it did through my phone speakers
@@hammies. Ever since this episode aired, I also thought that it was the sound of someone breathing deeply & secretly watching Walt & Jesse. I assumed that the writers were planting the seeds for the next season & later decided to abandon that particular story line in it's premiere. I read archimedes' comment, & can now easily tell that it's simply screeching tires. That's really interesting that so many people misheard it in the exact same way. I always thought that it was the lone moment of sloppy storytelling in BB, so it's nice to know that I was wrong.
@@davidscoville2636 I think the timing too how it cut to the angle then the breathing sounding part makes it seem like it was someone supposed to be watching them. If it was for something that was cut and it was breathing then it's pretty funny how someone was watching them randomly and then never brought it up again, likely someone eavesdropping
It was Chris Mara. One of Gus’ guys. He drove Gus to the nursing home where Gus got killed. He killed Chow and gets killed by Mike in season 5. He appears in the background in the scene where Gus threatens to kill his family standing next to his little white car shown in this scene.
Absolutely loved walt.
Gus was my fav character and i supported him against walt.
Then he passed away and i supported walt.
And jesse just pissed me off so much
Was Walt right to poison Brock? On one hand he hurt a kid so badly he had to spend a few days at a hospital, on the other if he hadn't done that Gus would have whacked him and his entire family
this is easily one of the best scenes of the entire show for me. it is very poignant and the emotion is palpable. they both have a moment to breathe and relax as a team. sure you can say walt lied and all that, but it was really for the greater good. he really didnt do any harm to jesse nor brock. their handshake here is genuine and sweet. imo jesse was moreso manipulated by gus to be turned against walt. jesse was in a very emotional state up until this point, which is why he needed the reassurance ("right?") that killing gus was the objectively right move for both of them to carry on a better life together as a duo. through the handshake, walt is genuinely happy to have jesse back on his side again (emphasized visually as they're both on the right side of the red pole) and i'd like to think walt missed him when they were at such odds in the second half of this season. as jesse leaves and walt realizes his crazy plan has finally culminated, walt is overrun with the emotion he's gone through with jesse and with himself. very touching scene in all.
Besides, it's implied Gus ordered the murder of Tomás and, if not stopped, would have killed Flynn and Holly as well
road to hell is paved with good intentions. this is not a positive scene, it's Walt getting away with manipulating Jesse once again.
"for greater good" terrorist say that too
@@Xkid19 jesse gets manipulated by everyone. Jane, Walt, Hank, Gus. Walt had to take extreme measures to save his family and Hank. Jesse had betrayed him and sided with psycho Gus.
@@coder9928 Like Walt isn't psychotic...
When you realises!
Ah nostalgia
Girls on last day of school:😢😭😭
Boys on last day of school: 1:40
Gus would have got them both killed one way or another so he had to go.
I mean to be fair, with a name like that he kinda had it coming ngl. Brock. What kind of a name is that? smh.
brock lesnar is gonna kill yuo
Yeah, Bmineral is a way better name
@@PizzaTuber12345 well done.
Me when my best friend moves out of her apartment even though we're still going to see each other: 1:44
There was no morally right thing for Walt do to here, his entire family’s lives or poisoning a child with a flower, he played the hand he was dealt
How was his family going to die again?
@@asdfasdf3989 Gus said he would kill his entire family if he warned Hank
@@ttyytttttyttys8744 and he only threatened them after Walt got cocky and pissed Gus off
@@Sophie-mv7bdYou mean after Jesse went insane because Gus killed one of his friends and Walt had to sacrifice his whole reputation for his life?
It's Jesse's fault that Gus hates Walt. And even then, he stupidly falls into Gus' hands despite knowing well how Gus is planning to eventually replace him.
tbf Gus wouldn't have killed his family if Walt stayed out of it. It was more to save hank.
then doesnt show the lily of the valley plant. I came here to find out whose yard that was.I take it by the comments it was walt ;didnt see that coming. just now watching the series, because watched 5 seasons of better call saul and wanted more of that. only one more ep of bb then wait a year for the final season of bcs. i wanna watch el camino but i sure hope its not as sad as bb.
This scene>>>>>>
SO, at the end of season 4 Jesse thinks that he RANDOMLY lost his ricin cigarette which he has been guarding closely, the very same day that brock RANDOMLY poisons himself, which makes him turn on gus? something like that does not happen. He should have realized than and there this was elaborately planned.
Walt may think his plan to poison brock is brilliant but little does he know he’s plotting his own downfall. Jesse was insanely loyal to Walt before it came out that Walt poisoned A CHILD to manipulate Jesse.
It was the best time that Walter stop braking bad intensity. This intensity of bad was the best.
what an actor.
1:46 still like how this handshake manages to tell Walter’s ego by pulling Jesse’s arm. I heard that many politicians and leaders pull another party members arm in a handshake to display power over them and looking at this and how Walter always wants to manipulate Jesse is very terrifying
What I’m still trying to figure out is when and how Walter managed to poison Brock. Does anybody know?
He got one of sauls goons to do it. Vince Gillian keeps it pretty vague exactly how
@@Norwoodg00ner I always thought it was when he visited brock and andrea and maybe put it in his cereal. But I don't know.
@@Norwoodg00ner I think Walt himself did it. When he visited Brock and Andrea in s5, Brock did not like Walt around him. Brock knew he was poisoned by him, or atleast was suspicious.
@@coder9928 kids are pretty good at picking up bad vibes from people in my experience
Vince said he spiked his juice box when he was at school
So if it was known Brock didn't get ricin, that the ricin in that cigarette never went anywhere anyone knows of, then why was the suspected lifting of that cigarette still such a trigger point for Jesse? I feel like that was the biggest reach in the series for Jesse to be still so excessively hung up on that cigarette that never did anything.
Walter seems so sad. Evident he cared about the boy alot amirightttt?!
Nice man
Me seeing my best friend (i can see him once a year)
Jesse should've really quite right here and then instead of snitching on Walt and Todd's gang.
Best climax ❤❤
Walt was in the right.
Yes Gus did have to go.
So what did Saúl take off the cigarette from jesse ? If they doesnt gonna need it
So Walt can manipulate Jesse into believing that Gus took it to poison Brock.
Gus only had to go because Walt wanted to be the man if him and Jesse just stayed in line they would of been fine making millions of dollars
Ben Spagnuolo If Walt hadn't killed him he would've killed his entire family. Gus made that very clear. I don't like that he bombed a nursing home but Walt was right. He had to go.
Yeah Walter did Jesse a damn solid, if Walt just let Gus kill him, and stayed outta the way, he and Gus and Gale could be the best of the besties forever lol
Those types of people are real. They are called narcissist and psychopaths. Walt is a narcissist. He will burn down the world just to rule the ashes.
that's Mike's view but its bullshit
@@kiranolan7104 No. Gus threatened Walt to kill him and his entire family IF he didn't stay out of his way. Did you even watch the show?
During the awkward dinner scene with Walt Skyler and Jesse:
"Walt, whatever happened to that lilly of the valley plant I kept in the backyard? That was expensive"
Jesse: 😮
ACTING 🐐
That zoom into lily of the valley and the drop was literally orgasmic
Walt was so smart when Jesse said "kids eat them sometimes and poison themselves" like bruh Walter was on another level of thinking when he planned this out and etc
The real nightmare of Jesse began when he betrays Walt.
This move is clever af but i never blamed walter for what he had done, jesse should helped walter kill gus because gus will kill them both when he got a chance. But instead jesse hesitated on helping walter resulting walter to trick jesse into helping him. Just use ur brain and think who is the one that wanted jesse dead at first place??? It is gus how can u think of helping gus instead of walter who is in this mess because of saving jesse
Then Jesse realizes Gus got killed for no reason
1:51 - Shake hands
2:12 - Hands on his own face...
Got infected. Died. Roll Credits.
You’re not funny
You’re not clever
@@colfdralegend Yes.
Y esto que tiene que ver con queen?
Idk why jesse was so riled up about some other dude's kid? Like tf? Who cares about brock
walter is definitely the worst human in the whole show
He looks like a human form of amphetamine / methamphetamine.
Unpopular opinion: I've never hated Walter White. No matter what he did
Knowing he’d be dead if he didn’t do it. I have to agree.
@MX 3 pride is pretty important. The world could use more of it.
With regards to the kid, it was a smart play, and maybe the only one. You could argue it's Jesse's fault for getting so emotionally involved and allowing loved ones to be vulnerable...
@MX 3 ffs, relax
That's not unpopular. Half the fandom worships Walt lol.
@@BigHat83 ffs, hes relax tbh