I think it could be very helpful seeing a kyu player have control of the moves while you ask teaching questions and give commentary. It'd be great to see common kyu tendencies and how they can be improved upon.
I agree, guiding a kyu player rather than asking occasional questions would be even more helpful. Still a great video though, appreciate all the explanations behind your moves.
This was so good! You explained so much that I have questions about, like the whole "how do I know whether to live or get out" during the invasion part. This is EXACTLY the content I need to make my games better. More please!
I found this really helpful as a SDK. I got a glimpse of how a dan players wields direction of play as a weapon, (while I'm just stumbling about looking for flowers.)
Oh I like this format a lot! But I do have the feeling your guest is not that much involved. I feel like the are the Misty and Brook of explaining pokemon moves in Go. I would really like it if you would ask your guest more questions about what to play now and what not to. Maybe follow a bad idea or read it out with them on the spot (marking tool?). Letting the guest play would be nice, but kind of cheating if you commented on it right away. Maybe fix this problem by not playing "ranked" on the server when your guest plays?
@@zissler1 Was she "scared" or just...didn't have an answer? What's the point of saying something that's random? You think about it and if anything comes to you that feels like it might be it, then say it, but if not, you just don't know. It doesn't make you "scared" of being wrong. You just don't have what feels like a reasonable guess in the 7 seconds that you have to answer something you simply don't know the answer to.
@@ClarkPotter She seems like she has a shy personality. Even watching her stream she seems like a very reserved person, which is fine, but I don't blame dwyrin or the format. I don't know how often she's done co-streaming, but she looked new. Now quit white knighting sheesh.
thanks for all your help dwyrin; you have helped me improve from 6k to nearly 4k. love your style. i always want to play a game after being inspired by your videos.
Thank you for the really good content! Like always, you're understandable and the videos are also very immersing. That's about the lecturing style from which I learned a lot. It's about where should we go. This format is about the opposite direction: To find the errors in our underlying conceptions. Often this is so crucial. I really appreciate your attempt to involve some of us. Here I think the focus can be more on the thoughts of what you want to analyse: not the game itself, but the reasoning of that person. A way for avoiding cheating would be to involve both players, then you have consensus. Maybe but not necessarily on stage. (Also I'm not so sure why it would be more severe as when you personally play on a low rank. Perhaps better unrated then.)
Great video dwyrin! Having someone my level (who am I lying, im a ddk now) comment and "experience" the game helps you understand our flawed reasoning, and us to know why that move we are were wanting to play the last 5 min is horribly bad. Also, I think maybe doing the opposite (the Kyu player plays, and you comment) might be better cause your reasoning and understanding of big points and plays is extremely fast for lower levels, and things you immediately see and react as important, require us to ponder for a while.
@@dwyrin Maybe you could let the guest play and explain her moves (she's a streamer, so she should be comfortable doing that?) and then review the game and her thoughts together afterwards. That wouldn't be cheating, but it would fit the theme "understanding a 6k" better in my opinion, because we would get to hear more of her thoughts.
@@dwyrin you could ask the lower ranked player what moves they would make a lot more if you feel that coaching them through a game was cheating ( which I don’t fwiw)
A lot of the sites have specific rules against players getting help while playing, so it would be hard to work with this. The one workaround I got after talking with a mod on OGS re: playing against a friend as a teaching game while also helping them play against me by asking these sorts of questions or demonstrating alternative moves was to either make sure the game is private and unranked and then it would be okay (note: this may be OGS specific), or to simply play offline on a set up like Sabaki, which might also be an option.
I really like this format! Only thing I would improve is more interaction from the guest player, it feels like they might be a bit nervous to say something that's wrong. Maybe it would be better if they played and you asked for their thoughts and gave them hints whilst they did so?
that was unfortunately due to my time constraints. i played a 10 30/3 thinking it would be enough. I think for this set up, perhaps 20 would be better. or maybe 15
@@dwyrin This. More time = more opportunity to explore options, talk through reasoning and ask/answer questions. Might be the perfect time for those 30 min time settings you love so much. 😆
"play on the wider side" since i started playing with that in mind in the openning i notice something (which is obvious when you think about it but i think you should explicit a little bit more for novice watching) . the something is by doing that the groups i create are too far away from each other to being attacked with one move by my opponent then i can respond with a local focus without feeling the need to attack and defend in the same time (and we know when we try to do several things at once the chance to do none of them increase , even more for someone with lack on basics)
Hey Dwyrin, I'm a longtime follower of your basic series and really love it. I always try to mimic your basic ideas, but I always end up failing miserably and scratching my head as to why I just got beaten by 30 points. If you need cannon fodder for your videos, feel free to shoot me a message and I'd be happy to let you understand the mind of a 9 kyu. Keep at it :D
A 6k does not see invasions like L14, it would have been simpler E12, it saves and protects territory. And still it would have more territory. The effort is appreciated.
I would really appreciate if you clarify some easy-to-understand rules for DDK's and SDK's on 𝗰𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗹/𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲 𝗸𝗻𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝟮/𝟯 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀. I always end up in losing position 🤔 P.S. These basic rules are really helpful and thank you for the lessons.
@@dwyrin these kind of contents are really helpful, and yes getting in the right headspace is important but its not easy for me to make myself interested in anything for a long time so I kinda watch these videos to get some inspiration to play. Thanks by the way!
Would it be an overplay to invade the left side after G10? With a move like C12, B13 or something? It feels like there is some room there, white is getting a bit stronger and there's still a cutting point at D16 which can be somehow used..?
Good explanations, very useful, but again the guest was just sitting there. Wish they had more time to respond or they would play some of the moves - to see why they are bad or how to fix them once you mess up.
Batts, this vids It's kinda awkward ngl xD 10min 3x10 is fast for Teaching for "weaker" player(s) than you Siri looks like confuse at times. there is no room for her to thinking and comprehend your logics… This only like your normal vids but there is Siri watching
Sucking at something you enjoy is better than not doing it out of fear of sucking. One tip I got from a vlogger I follow that has totally changed my mindset about stuff like this is to stop focusing on succeeding at things you want to learn to do as a goal, and instead just deciding to fail at them consistently. Because then it's easier to relax and just do it, since it becomes about doing the thing regardless of the outcome, rather than focusing on creating a successful outcome at doing it, which may not be something within your ability to achieve or control. If that makes any sense. Kinda like the old sales advice to stop focusing on getting the yeses, and start challenging yourself to not stop until you've gotten X amount of "no"s. Because if you do that, you'll inevitably up the number of yeses you get along the way.
The duality of dwyrin making funny voices while killing the opponent as siri sits there looking concerned is hilarious.
"funny"
I think it could be very helpful seeing a kyu player have control of the moves while you ask teaching questions and give commentary.
It'd be great to see common kyu tendencies and how they can be improved upon.
I agree, guiding a kyu player rather than asking occasional questions would be even more helpful. Still a great video though, appreciate all the explanations behind your moves.
Same here, I enjoyed the video, but she was too much of an observer
Every time I see my opponent pause for two minutes I’m gonna assume it’s somebody commenting on the ways they can destroy me.
I think the guest need more participation opportunities. More often asking "what moves are you thinking about here?"
This was so good! You explained so much that I have questions about, like the whole "how do I know whether to live or get out" during the invasion part. This is EXACTLY the content I need to make my games better. More please!
Love this series, it's exactly what I need! Thanks for all the great content.
I found this really helpful as a SDK. I got a glimpse of how a dan players wields direction of play as a weapon, (while I'm just stumbling about looking for flowers.)
I'm so curious who the next twitch go streamer will be to get featured. Maybe understanding a 4d with clossi?
Oh I like this format a lot! But I do have the feeling your guest is not that much involved. I feel like the are the Misty and Brook of explaining pokemon moves in Go. I would really like it if you would ask your guest more questions about what to play now and what not to. Maybe follow a bad idea or read it out with them on the spot (marking tool?). Letting the guest play would be nice, but kind of cheating if you commented on it right away. Maybe fix this problem by not playing "ranked" on the server when your guest plays?
I was thinking the same, feel like there would be far more interaction with the guest if they were the one playing.
Might depend on the guest. This one seemed scared to give a wrong answer too so it's hard to say.
@@zissler1 Was she "scared" or just...didn't have an answer? What's the point of saying something that's random? You think about it and if anything comes to you that feels like it might be it, then say it, but if not, you just don't know. It doesn't make you "scared" of being wrong. You just don't have what feels like a reasonable guess in the 7 seconds that you have to answer something you simply don't know the answer to.
@@ClarkPotter She seems like she has a shy personality. Even watching her stream she seems like a very reserved person, which is fine, but I don't blame dwyrin or the format. I don't know how often she's done co-streaming, but she looked new. Now quit white knighting sheesh.
Oh oh oh oh! Please do a lot more of these. This was super helpful for me.
thanks for all your help dwyrin; you have helped me improve from 6k to nearly 4k. love your style. i always want to play a game after being inspired by your videos.
Thank you for the really good content! Like always, you're understandable and the videos are also very immersing.
That's about the lecturing style from which I learned a lot. It's about where should we go.
This format is about the opposite direction: To find the errors in our underlying conceptions. Often this is so crucial. I really appreciate your attempt to involve some of us. Here I think the focus can be more on the thoughts of what you want to analyse: not the game itself, but the reasoning of that person.
A way for avoiding cheating would be to involve both players, then you have consensus. Maybe but not necessarily on stage. (Also I'm not so sure why it would be more severe as when you personally play on a low rank. Perhaps better unrated then.)
Great video dwyrin! Having someone my level (who am I lying, im a ddk now) comment and "experience" the game helps you understand our flawed reasoning, and us to know why that move we are were wanting to play the last 5 min is horribly bad. Also, I think maybe doing the opposite (the Kyu player plays, and you comment) might be better cause your reasoning and understanding of big points and plays is extremely fast for lower levels, and things you immediately see and react as important, require us to ponder for a while.
I want to but at the same time that is pretty on the nose as cheating
@@dwyrin I don't think it would be so morally questionable were they to play against bots
@@dwyrin Maybe you could let the guest play and explain her moves (she's a streamer, so she should be comfortable doing that?) and then review the game and her thoughts together afterwards. That wouldn't be cheating, but it would fit the theme "understanding a 6k" better in my opinion, because we would get to hear more of her thoughts.
@@dwyrin you could ask the lower ranked player what moves they would make a lot
more if you feel that coaching them through a game was cheating ( which I don’t fwiw)
A lot of the sites have specific rules against players getting help while playing, so it would be hard to work with this. The one workaround I got after talking with a mod on OGS re: playing against a friend as a teaching game while also helping them play against me by asking these sorts of questions or demonstrating alternative moves was to either make sure the game is private and unranked and then it would be okay (note: this may be OGS specific), or to simply play offline on a set up like Sabaki, which might also be an option.
Oh another norwegian go player, wasn't expecting to see one of those.
I really like this format! Only thing I would improve is more interaction from the guest player, it feels like they might be a bit nervous to say something that's wrong. Maybe it would be better if they played and you asked for their thoughts and gave them hints whilst they did so?
You need to leave more space for the guests to drive the conversation. This was basically a normal basics video with someone else just watching.
that was unfortunately due to my time constraints. i played a 10 30/3 thinking it would be enough. I think for this set up, perhaps 20 would be better. or maybe 15
@@dwyrin This. More time = more opportunity to explore options, talk through reasoning and ask/answer questions. Might be the perfect time for those 30 min time settings you love so much. 😆
This is a very good series so far Batts
Awesome!!!! :D Love this community, more of this Dwyrin :D
“Do ya really wanna ko with me son? This ain’t gonna end well for you.” 😂
Amazing idea for a basics series ! :)
"play on the wider side" since i started playing with that in mind in the openning i notice something (which is obvious when you think about it but i think you should explicit a little bit more for novice watching) .
the something is by doing that the groups i create are too far away from each other to being attacked with one move by my opponent then i can respond with a local focus without feeling the need to attack and defend in the same time (and we know when we try to do several things at once the chance to do none of them increase , even more for someone with lack on basics)
Hey Dwyrin, I'm a longtime follower of your basic series and really love it. I always try to mimic your basic ideas, but I always end up failing miserably and scratching my head as to why I just got beaten by 30 points. If you need cannon fodder for your videos, feel free to shoot me a message and I'd be happy to let you understand the mind of a 9 kyu. Keep at it :D
A 6k does not see invasions like L14, it would have been simpler E12, it saves and protects territory. And still it would have more territory. The effort is appreciated.
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I would really appreciate if you clarify some easy-to-understand rules for DDK's and SDK's on 𝗰𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗹/𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲 𝗸𝗻𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝟮/𝟯 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀. I always end up in losing position 🤔
P.S. These basic rules are really helpful and thank you for the lessons.
I don't know why watching these kind of videos makes me think wanna play after, and then ends up winning XD
you're human. getting in the right headspace before playing is important.
@@dwyrin these kind of contents are really helpful, and yes getting in the right headspace is important but its not easy for me to make myself interested in anything for a long time so I kinda watch these videos to get some inspiration to play. Thanks by the way!
Hey @@dwyrin, do you think chance plays a role in game play then? Because headspace is influenced by many chance factors. Or is it all skill?
Would it be an overplay to invade the left side after G10? With a move like C12, B13 or something? It feels like there is some room there, white is getting a bit stronger and there's still a cutting point at D16 which can be somehow used..?
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Good explanations, very useful, but again the guest was just sitting there. Wish they had more time to respond or they would play some of the moves - to see why they are bad or how to fix them once you mess up.
Dwyrin do you still stream on twitch? If so I want to give you my prime.
yup twitch.tv/battsgo !
2:54 how is taking the cash with a komoku a mistake? Thats the point of komoku?
10:15 is the shoulder hit at k15 up top too ambitious/ telling of your impending expansion?
Batts, this vids It's kinda awkward ngl xD
10min 3x10 is fast for Teaching for "weaker" player(s) than you
Siri looks like confuse at times. there is no room for her to thinking and comprehend your logics…
This only like your normal vids but there is Siri watching
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my dad is 6k
funny
I am 6k and I suck
Sucking at something you enjoy is better than not doing it out of fear of sucking. One tip I got from a vlogger I follow that has totally changed my mindset about stuff like this is to stop focusing on succeeding at things you want to learn to do as a goal, and instead just deciding to fail at them consistently. Because then it's easier to relax and just do it, since it becomes about doing the thing regardless of the outcome, rather than focusing on creating a successful outcome at doing it, which may not be something within your ability to achieve or control. If that makes any sense.
Kinda like the old sales advice to stop focusing on getting the yeses, and start challenging yourself to not stop until you've gotten X amount of "no"s. Because if you do that, you'll inevitably up the number of yeses you get along the way.
8kyu here ;) 6 kyu is fine
what a cutie