Understanding a 6kyu - Back to Basic Baduk

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  • @unsourced7561
    @unsourced7561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The duality of dwyrin making funny voices while killing the opponent as siri sits there looking concerned is hilarious.

  • @artemis3120
    @artemis3120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I think it could be very helpful seeing a kyu player have control of the moves while you ask teaching questions and give commentary.
    It'd be great to see common kyu tendencies and how they can be improved upon.

    • @guskristiansen1370
      @guskristiansen1370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree, guiding a kyu player rather than asking occasional questions would be even more helpful. Still a great video though, appreciate all the explanations behind your moves.

    • @tiro0oO5
      @tiro0oO5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same here, I enjoyed the video, but she was too much of an observer

  • @english-dl9vo
    @english-dl9vo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Every time I see my opponent pause for two minutes I’m gonna assume it’s somebody commenting on the ways they can destroy me.

  • @adamreifsneider4891
    @adamreifsneider4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think the guest need more participation opportunities. More often asking "what moves are you thinking about here?"

  • @sonipitts
    @sonipitts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was so good! You explained so much that I have questions about, like the whole "how do I know whether to live or get out" during the invasion part. This is EXACTLY the content I need to make my games better. More please!

  • @rustlings0ul
    @rustlings0ul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this series, it's exactly what I need! Thanks for all the great content.

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I found this really helpful as a SDK. I got a glimpse of how a dan players wields direction of play as a weapon, (while I'm just stumbling about looking for flowers.)

  • @radnor7812
    @radnor7812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm so curious who the next twitch go streamer will be to get featured. Maybe understanding a 4d with clossi?

  • @ShikaNui
    @ShikaNui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Oh I like this format a lot! But I do have the feeling your guest is not that much involved. I feel like the are the Misty and Brook of explaining pokemon moves in Go. I would really like it if you would ask your guest more questions about what to play now and what not to. Maybe follow a bad idea or read it out with them on the spot (marking tool?). Letting the guest play would be nice, but kind of cheating if you commented on it right away. Maybe fix this problem by not playing "ranked" on the server when your guest plays?

    • @kinai_4414
      @kinai_4414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was thinking the same, feel like there would be far more interaction with the guest if they were the one playing.

    • @zissler1
      @zissler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might depend on the guest. This one seemed scared to give a wrong answer too so it's hard to say.

    • @ClarkPotter
      @ClarkPotter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zissler1 Was she "scared" or just...didn't have an answer? What's the point of saying something that's random? You think about it and if anything comes to you that feels like it might be it, then say it, but if not, you just don't know. It doesn't make you "scared" of being wrong. You just don't have what feels like a reasonable guess in the 7 seconds that you have to answer something you simply don't know the answer to.

    • @zissler1
      @zissler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ClarkPotter She seems like she has a shy personality. Even watching her stream she seems like a very reserved person, which is fine, but I don't blame dwyrin or the format. I don't know how often she's done co-streaming, but she looked new. Now quit white knighting sheesh.

  • @frankiethefrank
    @frankiethefrank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh oh oh oh! Please do a lot more of these. This was super helpful for me.

  • @garyisok1
    @garyisok1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for all your help dwyrin; you have helped me improve from 6k to nearly 4k. love your style. i always want to play a game after being inspired by your videos.

  • @florianwaschbichler9663
    @florianwaschbichler9663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the really good content! Like always, you're understandable and the videos are also very immersing.
    That's about the lecturing style from which I learned a lot. It's about where should we go.
    This format is about the opposite direction: To find the errors in our underlying conceptions. Often this is so crucial. I really appreciate your attempt to involve some of us. Here I think the focus can be more on the thoughts of what you want to analyse: not the game itself, but the reasoning of that person.
    A way for avoiding cheating would be to involve both players, then you have consensus. Maybe but not necessarily on stage. (Also I'm not so sure why it would be more severe as when you personally play on a low rank. Perhaps better unrated then.)

  • @theplaneteater
    @theplaneteater 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video dwyrin! Having someone my level (who am I lying, im a ddk now) comment and "experience" the game helps you understand our flawed reasoning, and us to know why that move we are were wanting to play the last 5 min is horribly bad. Also, I think maybe doing the opposite (the Kyu player plays, and you comment) might be better cause your reasoning and understanding of big points and plays is extremely fast for lower levels, and things you immediately see and react as important, require us to ponder for a while.

    • @dwyrin
      @dwyrin  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want to but at the same time that is pretty on the nose as cheating

    • @maxschneider-white1460
      @maxschneider-white1460 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwyrin I don't think it would be so morally questionable were they to play against bots

    • @SharpX12
      @SharpX12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dwyrin Maybe you could let the guest play and explain her moves (she's a streamer, so she should be comfortable doing that?) and then review the game and her thoughts together afterwards. That wouldn't be cheating, but it would fit the theme "understanding a 6k" better in my opinion, because we would get to hear more of her thoughts.

    • @nickmiller3501
      @nickmiller3501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dwyrin you could ask the lower ranked player what moves they would make a lot
      more if you feel that coaching them through a game was cheating ( which I don’t fwiw)

    • @sonipitts
      @sonipitts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of the sites have specific rules against players getting help while playing, so it would be hard to work with this. The one workaround I got after talking with a mod on OGS re: playing against a friend as a teaching game while also helping them play against me by asking these sorts of questions or demonstrating alternative moves was to either make sure the game is private and unranked and then it would be okay (note: this may be OGS specific), or to simply play offline on a set up like Sabaki, which might also be an option.

  • @Colopty
    @Colopty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh another norwegian go player, wasn't expecting to see one of those.

  • @alexanderterry187
    @alexanderterry187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really like this format! Only thing I would improve is more interaction from the guest player, it feels like they might be a bit nervous to say something that's wrong. Maybe it would be better if they played and you asked for their thoughts and gave them hints whilst they did so?

  • @user-fg5fs5ym6q
    @user-fg5fs5ym6q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You need to leave more space for the guests to drive the conversation. This was basically a normal basics video with someone else just watching.

    • @dwyrin
      @dwyrin  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      that was unfortunately due to my time constraints. i played a 10 30/3 thinking it would be enough. I think for this set up, perhaps 20 would be better. or maybe 15

    • @sonipitts
      @sonipitts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dwyrin This. More time = more opportunity to explore options, talk through reasoning and ask/answer questions. Might be the perfect time for those 30 min time settings you love so much. 😆

  • @KC-fk6oc
    @KC-fk6oc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very good series so far Batts

  • @Moonlitwriter
    @Moonlitwriter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!!!! :D Love this community, more of this Dwyrin :D

  • @aidenhastings6341
    @aidenhastings6341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Do ya really wanna ko with me son? This ain’t gonna end well for you.” 😂

  • @IslamElshobokshy
    @IslamElshobokshy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing idea for a basics series ! :)

  • @Kam1WA
    @Kam1WA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "play on the wider side" since i started playing with that in mind in the openning i notice something (which is obvious when you think about it but i think you should explicit a little bit more for novice watching) .
    the something is by doing that the groups i create are too far away from each other to being attacked with one move by my opponent then i can respond with a local focus without feeling the need to attack and defend in the same time (and we know when we try to do several things at once the chance to do none of them increase , even more for someone with lack on basics)

  • @NDTLM
    @NDTLM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dwyrin, I'm a longtime follower of your basic series and really love it. I always try to mimic your basic ideas, but I always end up failing miserably and scratching my head as to why I just got beaten by 30 points. If you need cannon fodder for your videos, feel free to shoot me a message and I'd be happy to let you understand the mind of a 9 kyu. Keep at it :D

  • @kairoescobar2568
    @kairoescobar2568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A 6k does not see invasions like L14, it would have been simpler E12, it saves and protects territory. And still it would have more territory. The effort is appreciated.

  • @FahadAhmedMemon
    @FahadAhmedMemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would really appreciate if you clarify some easy-to-understand rules for DDK's and SDK's on 𝗰𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗹/𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲 𝗸𝗻𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝟮/𝟯 𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀. I always end up in losing position 🤔
    P.S. These basic rules are really helpful and thank you for the lessons.

  • @qingmeiyuu
    @qingmeiyuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why watching these kind of videos makes me think wanna play after, and then ends up winning XD

    • @dwyrin
      @dwyrin  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you're human. getting in the right headspace before playing is important.

    • @qingmeiyuu
      @qingmeiyuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwyrin these kind of contents are really helpful, and yes getting in the right headspace is important but its not easy for me to make myself interested in anything for a long time so I kinda watch these videos to get some inspiration to play. Thanks by the way!

    • @prabhatprakash1078
      @prabhatprakash1078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey @@dwyrin, do you think chance plays a role in game play then? Because headspace is influenced by many chance factors. Or is it all skill?

  • @maciejkrajewski3375
    @maciejkrajewski3375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would it be an overplay to invade the left side after G10? With a move like C12, B13 or something? It feels like there is some room there, white is getting a bit stronger and there's still a cutting point at D16 which can be somehow used..?

  • @Reeenald
    @Reeenald 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good explanations, very useful, but again the guest was just sitting there. Wish they had more time to respond or they would play some of the moves - to see why they are bad or how to fix them once you mess up.

  • @fredsmit3481
    @fredsmit3481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dwyrin do you still stream on twitch? If so I want to give you my prime.

    • @dwyrin
      @dwyrin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup twitch.tv/battsgo !

  • @honkeykong9592
    @honkeykong9592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:54 how is taking the cash with a komoku a mistake? Thats the point of komoku?

    • @honkeykong9592
      @honkeykong9592 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      10:15 is the shoulder hit at k15 up top too ambitious/ telling of your impending expansion?

  • @yadirect
    @yadirect 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Batts, this vids It's kinda awkward ngl xD
    10min 3x10 is fast for Teaching for "weaker" player(s) than you
    Siri looks like confuse at times. there is no room for her to thinking and comprehend your logics…
    This only like your normal vids but there is Siri watching

  • @godkingcthulhu138
    @godkingcthulhu138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🐙

  • @krizdenerf
    @krizdenerf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my dad is 6k

  • @lightoffanoy4877
    @lightoffanoy4877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny

  • @johnwilliams2183
    @johnwilliams2183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am 6k and I suck

    • @sonipitts
      @sonipitts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sucking at something you enjoy is better than not doing it out of fear of sucking. One tip I got from a vlogger I follow that has totally changed my mindset about stuff like this is to stop focusing on succeeding at things you want to learn to do as a goal, and instead just deciding to fail at them consistently. Because then it's easier to relax and just do it, since it becomes about doing the thing regardless of the outcome, rather than focusing on creating a successful outcome at doing it, which may not be something within your ability to achieve or control. If that makes any sense.
      Kinda like the old sales advice to stop focusing on getting the yeses, and start challenging yourself to not stop until you've gotten X amount of "no"s. Because if you do that, you'll inevitably up the number of yeses you get along the way.

    • @tiro0oO5
      @tiro0oO5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      8kyu here ;) 6 kyu is fine

  • @IIIlllyyyccchhh
    @IIIlllyyyccchhh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a cutie