I used to have to make orings the same size in the past. The kit had a plastic block guide that had a vee cut in it. You applied the glue to the ends, slapped it in the vee, and slid the ends together. Worked great. Nice video. Thanks.
Hi thank you for stopping in Life Journeyman, is it cold there or warming a bit? We think about your weather a lot. Nice to recognize and commented on liking our vises, we love our vises, some they are machinist made, others are factory made most are from factories in the USA that are here no more, still others are from Germany toolmaker style. We have this goal to share a little of our things when it fits the video we are making so some weeks might have nothing other weeks a product or a line of products that fit the video will be shared, we have a lot of machinery and we are the caretakers of them, right now some machines and tools are getting refurbishing by us to factory or better specifications and such. Thank you for joining us both on this journey. Lance and Patrick. New video comes out every Monday night.
Hi M.K.S. Lance here. Patrick really does great belt fusing work the melt is thought and through and as we shared my my belt fusing work not so much like. Thank you for your comment and know this we will be sharing the tapping machine taping real hole shortly where you will also see the belt running in full operation.
Neat to see all the pieces and the motor used to sharpen the carbide...I have a small diamond wheel I use to sharpen HSS lathe bits in the 3/16 and 1/4 in size
Hey Jim, you are going to really like some coming small machining that goes well with the tool grinders we shared in Shop Adventures 13 that you enjoyed, It is nice as you also know how to sharpen your HSS tool bit, this comes in handy for us both that is really a cool share. Thank you again for that wonderful share of great kindness with your audience, shocking and surprised to hear our AA name shared on your channel. Lance & Patrick.
G’day Lance and Patrick. Another great look at what you’re up to. You know you’re teasing me with that Barker Mill and I can’t wait for further progress, but next year! Hope you both are well. Cheers Peter
Hello PGS Peter. We are knowing you well Peter, we are holding out on you, as you are continuing on your Gingery Milling Machine build TH-cam video series. We hope we do the rebuild justice and the nice person below Timothy LaPlante also wants us to film the mill rebuild reassembly in the greatest detail. See once Patrick and I begin the reassembly of the mill the secret of the factory option that they no longer offer and have none to sale or provide parts for will be exposed and I will just be reassembling an American Made Milling Machine so I have to try to milk it for all it is worth. Hang in there Peter we will get her started in 2019 sometime because now we have to have the mill to start on our product, so maybe I give up the the Barker Mill Secret and keep our product a secret? That could work.
Thank you Joe we are trying really hard to bring to the show great quality from our decades of doing what we are doing already, only the difference where is the cameras they are everywhere but we are two very thankful guys that are needing to leave our approach to the challenges we take on even solve. We will really shine in the making of our product temporarily named The Perfected Product. We will be taking one hand drawing of the 32 we drew and dreamed about making for ourselves one day drawn during lunch breaks during our years of making parts to specifications and blue prints for other manufacturers and begin the CAD drawings, then we will machine all the components even the making of the screws (just think watch parts) finishing them to insane finishes, applying anodizing and the coatings as is appropriate and then to fitted assembly work all here in our micro machining operation, by only the two of us and then offered for sale on our company website store. Right now though Joe we are rebuilding and refurbishing machinery and tools from our decades of just making and shipping jobs for others (we stopped doing outside work about 2 years ago) but we are closing in to begin working on the machining of our product. We are right now as we share this with you filming the rebuilding of a 3C collet spindle, a micro drill spindle and a head stock spindle under our temporary named Educational Pullout videos 4 or 5 parts releasing on the same day step by step how to from these two guys approach to precision spindle rebuilding to (ready for this) within a (TIR) total indicator run-out tolerance of 50 millionths. Hope you like technical videos Joe, these are going to rock but you can always just come along and watch the Monday night show we currently offer, Shop Adventures the highlights of our Educational Pullout videos are always to be included in the weekly show to keep every viewer engaged. Thank you Joe, Lance & Patrick.
Hi gnargnarhead we welcome you and we thank you for liking our video on belt fusing, we have had a lot of comments and some great ides utilized by others some we did not think of ourselves when slicing a belt for our micro-machines, happy to have you here and have you sharing a good thought. From the high-desert of California Lance & Patrick.
Hi Jeff a few things here about Jeff, he is a family native to a Northern California more then 140 years, wow he also is a (FELLOW TH-cam CREATOR). We thank you for stopping in to look around and hope we have something we are doing that you like. Lance & Patrick.
I just discovered your site. You gentlemen are very entertaining, but clearly the most important thing is you have a wealth of experience/knowledge which you share. Thank you for allowing me to share your videos. I'll be a better machinest hobbyist for the time spent visiting your site.
Hi Roy, we just found this missing comment form you we love comments so it was sad to find it late but we are happy we are here and can still replay to your great comment it was when you first discovered our channel Active Atom. Great to read these very kind words from you they really keep us going well here. Thank you and sorry for this really late 8 plus months reply. Lance & Patrick.
Thank you Hopper1, great videos also exist because it mentioned a friend OH THAT IS YOU and that Needle Gun lesson about how you rebuild the tool steel needles after much wear. Did you see the link to your lesson in the above description? We really appreciate knowing you. We love this Barker Milling Machine because it has a story that we will share along the way, as far as the vises go you should have seen them and we are used to Cosmoline, it is likely why we got them for so little from the guy selling them we really bought them not knowing what we were going to be getting. Thank you again Hopper1, your friends Lance and Patrick.
Hi and a very soon Happy New Year 2020 will be here for both you and us Marlyn. You watched, and we thank you for watching the belt fusing, neat may we share, we have learned many additional tips and techniques from fellow viewers after we filmed this video, we are reminded often through these social media outlets that we are still learning always. Have a GREAT New Year 2020 Marlyn, Lance & Patrick.
Hi guys. Love your videos. I cut my belts with a tool that's used to cut small tubing and nylon hose. It holds the belt perfectly square and cuts it so smooth that its shiny after the cut. In the past I used to use a cigar cutter which works great also. For fusing the belts I have an electric wood burner that holds an Exacto style blade at the tip. The style of Exacto blade I use in the wood burner is the Exacto #18 which is squared and reassembled a paint scraper. And for removing the excess material after fusing I use the same tool. The hot exacto blade removes it effortlessly.
Hi Corey, nice to read your detailed description of your best application to perform the belt cutting and fusing, well done, in fact Patrick heard this comment I read to him, and he reminds me we use that same tool and bit usually used in gasket and paint and new paint over spraying detailed removal in our workshop doing so many restorations and rebuilds (love it details and honing skills). We use that same tool and bit as you are only it is on our really small diameter clear blue air line for the compressed air hose values and spray guns installations at each workstation here. We are so happy you shared what you do and to know you and we are not alone in our best efforts is a GREAT thing. Thank you for being here with us we like your ways of thinking. Lance for Lance & Patrick.
Hi Peter A, we really work hard to acquire many of our tools some more then others but vises do just have a place in the heart of a many men. We agree they, these vises are very accurate and extremely functional, thank you so much for this kind comment. Lance & Patrick.
Hi Lance and Patrick, When I join the round belting I remove the lip that is formed by using a bench grinder and carefully revolving the belt against the grind wheel takes off the lip without any risk of cutting yourself with a blade, try it next time you will be amazed at the result. Thank you both for your time in making another enjoyable video... Dave in the Uk.
Hi welcome Dave and thank you so much for taking the time to share with us and our fellow viewers, that is a great idea to use the belt grinder and without hesitation Patrick is going to give it go on the next belt we fuse. Keep sharing we are always open minded and listening for great new approaches to the daily challenges of being a machinist.
Hi JD Richards, he is a fellow TH-camr and watchmaker. We like your delicate choice in tools easy to control tweezers and as one of me, Lance's jobs is a finisher one of the tools in my arsenal a similar style powered tool they afford excellent controls with some training. You made a great recommendation the stone bit makes sense and thank you for sharing it here JD.
Hi again and thank you for sharing your approach mosfet500 as we sure know there are quite a few ways to mate these belts and smooth the joint, it is great you have a good way as well says to us that there is a demand for this topic, so thank you for coming along with us here. Lance & Patrick.
@@mosfet500 We are happy to know you can help us that is what all this sharing and community is all about. Thank you very much, have a great week ahead. P.S. We love all tools, they are our whole life around here.
For the final belt trimming, I use a linoleum tile cutting gouge . Like the ones artist use for cutting printing plates. The blades come in different sizes and are disposable too ! You just slip one in the handle tighten it up and go at it...! Just lay the belt on the table and then lay the gouge on top and pull the belt through it ! Do a few passes and Presto, no more thummper belts !!
Hi Joe wow even in our near 3 decades coming up in May 2023 we are still learning, thankful to be always learning new things skills and where better to learn then from this great community of people. We like what you shared, this linoleum tile cutting gouge researched this tool and can see how it works, we will buy it, hoping it (which it likely will work for us and then add it to our arsenal of solutions for the belt fusing. We would like the no thummper zone here:) Hey honestly Joe, we are thankful to have you here and to share with not just these two desert dwellers but with the community as well hope they read these comments and gather the wealth of great information and tips we are both thankful to be getting ourselves. Lance & Patrick.
Hi, Sorry to bother you but i have one question i would be grateful if you could answer. For clarity the foot pedal is effectively only an ON and OFF switch, so when depressed it is on and if you take your foot OFF the power is cut. Thank you in advance for your help. Paul,,
Hi The Knackler's Workshop this is Lance for Lance and Patrick. Nice to meet your workshop, speaking of these workshops, that is one of our areas converted for or into a work area that area is pressurized to reduce outside contaminates and is where we do spindle rebuilding and testing make watch parts and service watch movements generally just to share a bit with you. You shared your question that is by the way a GREAT one a nd one we really never covered before in our show filming. The small general parts polishing lathe with the foot petal is only an on off switch as on the control panel located on the wood work board there is a pole that has the veritable speed control on it so we adjust that speed of the motor and the spindle speed there before beginning work allowing us to remain with both hands free to operate the polishing machine and this method applies to our line of Levin lathes however we do have an all chrome Marshall benchtop lathe very old all rebuild however that does have the veritable motor and thus spindle speed control built into that pedal for speed control. Thank you for writing to us and asking this great question, hope to have new videos coming out soon that you might enjoy. Lance & Patrick.
I am embarking on a glassblower toolkit from ductile iron, micro drilling is the toughest part obviously. I'm about to make a collet for an air tool or dremel, the 3 jaw chuck holds ok, looks as though theres not much runout. but my collet material should be aluminum is this collet already available to hold .015"dia. that you know of?
Hi Jeff, we do not know of a solution here for our in regards to a rotary tool. We like your shared question and it sounds like you are going to have a fun project. Thank you for sharing. Lance & Patrick.
Hi ikkiiiieee what a handle you have there. We are so happy you asked about the gravers we utilize in our workshop area around the lathe. They are Carbide Gravers. Stay away from Weller which was a popular brand for use on watchmaker lathes but they are not a good quality carbide. These from Eternal Tools have a good reputation. www.eternaltools.com/gravers/carbide-gravers Bergeon also currently makes them. They make 2 models which can be purchased at this UK website. Or search the model #'s listed for a supplier in your area. www.cousinsuk.com/product/gravers-bergeon-specialist Your comment is much appreciated and we thank you for joining us on our mission to share our approach and skills to the best of our abilities. Lance & Patrick.
Thank you so much for writing this down, very helpfull! Loving the content. It is great to see these old tools in these pristine conditions. It is one thing to have a piece of art like that, but another to use them and keep them in such condition! Love the neatness of it all.
Hello John Strange Lance reporting in here. There is the pair of vises and there is a single vise. The single vise came with vise jaws and the nicest sets of cap screws one could imagine just to share a bit, a company made those vise jaws as these precision machine vises do not require the use of vise jaws, they were just thrown in on the buy back then. The pair, the ones going to work on the once completed Barker Mill are 2.75 inch wide x 4.00 inch long opening minus jaws thickness x 2 times that the purchaser was to make their own for specific applications as these vises made by American Sun Inc do not need vise jaws these are machine vises but they are precision ground on 6 sides and best of all the vises use the similar technology as Kurt Vise the more you tighten them down the mechanism pulls the vise jaws down on the work. Patrick is sharing this with both you and I right now as I am typing.
Hello D&J Machine whom also has a channel and Daniel along with his brother Jeremy are building a wonderful business featuring a NEW building several lathes and a mill even a forklift (we want one) down in Texas, they machine a lot of stainless steel and they are working really hard to build a strong machining operation and still make videos. Your question is a GREAT one Daniel, I consulted Patrick on this one. The micro drill press and nearly all of these vintage motor through pulley style machines we operate use the belt drive synthetic, leather made what have you. Motors power micro machines by being located anywhere behind the machine above the machine under the table running up through the table anyplace they could end up in line direct drive from motor to action or through a stepper pulley to change the motor speeds to a device. The belts run from the motor over a tension and idler pulley from there things are more liquid what I mean is as you move the quill in this case up and down the belt moves along with it and in this case again it does this wrap around the quill two times making the drill more stable under load as to not (reduce) slip while drilling a micro hole. One other example to why the motor sits back behind the machines as some length is like on some lathe attachments is because the belt moves while in operation from say left to right by a few inches in either direction so having the motor back behind the actual cutting area allows flexibility during these movements reducing restricted or tension issues.
Hi Yota Doug (FELLOW TH-cam CREATOR) we see who LC Engineering is that are an aftermarket manufacturer of great upgrades for your YOTA (Toyota truck), while we do not know the company, we do see they to are located in the same desert as we are in the same desert only they get to be nearest the Colorado River and they are in Arizona and not our State of California. Their manufacturing facility is only 172 miles one way and 192 miles another way from our business here in the town of Yucca Valley, thank you for the share and for stopping in to see what we do, we make high precision machined aerospace grade materials micro scale luxury product and machine tools (product is under wraps until announced here on Shop Adventures Doug, Lance & Patrick.
@@ActiveAtom Thats awesome! I enjoy what you guys put out so far, the way you 2 engage with each other it isn't boring. The communication and delivery is what keeps me watching these longer videos that you guys put out, a lot of people try to stay between 5 minute increments and be around the 10-15 min mark it seems. Might as well keeping it rolling if you can stay interesting which you guys are.
Hey wow thank you Yota, we know what we do is not for all people but we hope you will come back like a video or two and think, can I learn something here? and make my lifetime of knowledge a bit more diverse? We are both sure hoping so (it is mostly why we are here sharing our private no more lives) happy you are here to see what we do, Since you are new and while we might not always be something you want to hang around and watch, but sometimes we will have some fun sharing diverse and of some interest to you. This coming Monday Lance has a talk with wood as wood and Lance are not really good friends so he attempts to show how the wood and Lance are working together to build a really neat work space named the "Grinding Hut". Lance (me) and Patrick are childhood friends who met playing hide and go seek around spring 1975, we have been best friends ever sense Yota. We did not win a gift card from Justin's video last night but 2 people did saw you were chimed in as well during the video. Your newer friends in the California Desert Lance & Patrick.
A calibrated hand tension device! What type editing software do you use. My fast forward is terrible. Small but high precision machine tools!! Cosmoline, did you bake it off, or chemically remove it? I found that brake cleaner will remove Cosmoline, but baking at low temperatures will also remove it. We used to build light bulb ovens out of metal 30gal trash cans, to bake Cosmoline out of wooden gun stocks. You guys do great work. Do you have a Patreon, or PayPalMe, account?
Hello Vernon Lance here having a great day we hope you are as well. Are you teasing Patrick's belt work with that Calibrated comment? Ok the editing software we use currently is Adobe Premiere Pro. We utilize acetone because this stuff and I wish I would have began filming before you see the final result of these pretty shiny steel vises because after like 2 decades these were really bad and we know Cosmoline somewhat. There is even a sine plate coming through right now as well, but it is already beyond the Cosmoline removal stage but we will try the baking thing for sure. We like the idea of baking it never occurred to us what is a little heat going to hurt, this is steel, we are thankful you are sharing this with us and we look forward to trying this baking at a low heat Cosmoline removal way Vernon in the future. Thank you so much about the Patreon PayPal thing it is something we are not doing for right now however know this Vernon, it is these comments you and others write that drive Patrick and I, the feedback the thoughts, ideas and helpful guidance and your kind humor and words are rewards enough for now and we thank you Vernon for being our friend.
@@ActiveAtom Yep! Just joking with Patrick.. However, an experience individual can usually determine through "feel" the correct tension! I love to watch your videos. Take care, and we will see you next time!
Speaking of heat and cosmoline, you might even try leaving the metal out in the hot desert sun on a piece of old plywood so that the cosmoline will run off onto something where you can control the mess. I have done that in the hot Texas sun a few times and it has done a decent job getting the bulk off before hitting it with brake or carb cleaner. My two cents worth.... 8)
Hi really nice to have you here Mitch Wright, this is Lance. We are actually sharing our journey. We live in a rural California Desert town and have been friends since childhood 40 plus years living and working together everyday since May 1993. The short answer Mitch Wright is we are not dead set (still battling out details in-house) on what it will be it will be very small, appeal to both the consumer and the mechanically inclined, will likely be made in a very limited edition because of the detail and being made though manual machining means and by only the two of us all in-house from start through to finish and shared through TH-cam covering each step of the making process. Back Story (optional detailed reading) We acquired these vintage machines over the past 2 decades maybe longer because of Patrick as he loves these machines and tools very much even though he is also a SolidWORKS CNC programmer. It is the vintage machines and tools mostly from the watchmaker world that allowed us to made our living up until we decided we were going to stop (TAKE A BIG RISK) making watch, timing and instrument parts and repairing vintage wristwatches for others and begin making our drawings into real products that others can enjoy, share and leave to the next generation. The machines and tools are a big part of this journey to begin making the product we hand drew many years ago and turn it into a product. In order to begin making the best product we are able, we must as we are filming rebuild the actual machines and tools to accomplish the product making to follow in 2019.
We like that you like our shows, we LOVE making these shows and using them to share and make friends like you here. Thank you again see us again in shows soon. Lance & Patrick.
I used to have to make orings the same size in the past. The kit had a plastic block guide that had a vee cut in it. You applied the glue to the ends, slapped it in the vee, and slid the ends together. Worked great. Nice video. Thanks.
Great video. Those three vices are beauties.
Hi thank you for stopping in Life Journeyman, is it cold there or warming a bit? We think about your weather a lot. Nice to recognize and commented on liking our vises, we love our vises, some they are machinist made, others are factory made most are from factories in the USA that are here no more, still others are from Germany toolmaker style.
We have this goal to share a little of our things when it fits the video we are making so some weeks might have nothing other weeks a product or a line of products that fit the video will be shared, we have a lot of machinery and we are the caretakers of them, right now some machines and tools are getting refurbishing by us to factory or better specifications and such. Thank you for joining us both on this journey. Lance and Patrick. New video comes out every Monday night.
Very cool machines!!! Loved seeing the small belts being made. Thanks for sharing!! M.K.S.
Hi M.K.S. Lance here. Patrick really does great belt fusing work the melt is thought and through and as we shared my my belt fusing work not so much like. Thank you for your comment and know this we will be sharing the tapping machine taping real hole shortly where you will also see the belt running in full operation.
Neat to see all the pieces and the motor used to sharpen the carbide...I have a small diamond wheel I use to sharpen HSS lathe bits in the 3/16 and 1/4 in size
Hey Jim, you are going to really like some coming small machining that goes well with the tool grinders we shared in Shop Adventures 13 that you enjoyed, It is nice as you also know how to sharpen your HSS tool bit, this comes in handy for us both that is really a cool share.
Thank you again for that wonderful share of great kindness with your audience, shocking and surprised to hear our AA name shared on your channel.
Lance & Patrick.
G’day Lance and Patrick. Another great look at what you’re up to. You know you’re teasing me with that Barker Mill and I can’t wait for further progress, but next year! Hope you both are well. Cheers Peter
Hello PGS Peter. We are knowing you well Peter, we are holding out on you, as you are continuing on your Gingery Milling Machine build TH-cam video series. We hope we do the rebuild justice and the nice person below Timothy LaPlante also wants us to film the mill rebuild reassembly in the greatest detail. See once Patrick and I begin the reassembly of the mill the secret of the factory option that they no longer offer and have none to sale or provide parts for will be exposed and I will just be reassembling an American Made Milling Machine so I have to try to milk it for all it is worth. Hang in there Peter we will get her started in 2019 sometime because now we have to have the mill to start on our product, so maybe I give up the the Barker Mill Secret and keep our product a secret? That could work.
Love your work guys ! It's really great to see precision hand-worked craftsmanship !!!
Thank you Joe we are trying really hard to bring to the show great quality from our decades of doing what we are doing already, only the difference where is the cameras they are everywhere but we are two very thankful guys that are needing to leave our approach to the challenges we take on even solve. We will really shine in the making of our product temporarily named The Perfected Product.
We will be taking one hand drawing of the 32 we drew and dreamed about making for ourselves one day drawn during lunch breaks during our years of making parts to specifications and blue prints for other manufacturers and begin the CAD drawings, then we will machine all the components even the making of the screws (just think watch parts) finishing them to insane finishes, applying anodizing and the coatings as is appropriate and then to fitted assembly work all here in our micro machining operation, by only the two of us and then offered for sale on our company website store.
Right now though Joe we are rebuilding and refurbishing machinery and tools from our decades of just making and shipping jobs for others (we stopped doing outside work about 2 years ago) but we are closing in to begin working on the machining of our product.
We are right now as we share this with you filming the rebuilding of a 3C collet spindle, a micro drill spindle and a head stock spindle under our temporary named Educational Pullout videos 4 or 5 parts releasing on the same day step by step how to from these two guys approach to precision spindle rebuilding to (ready for this) within a (TIR) total indicator run-out tolerance of 50 millionths.
Hope you like technical videos Joe, these are going to rock but you can always just come along and watch the Monday night show we currently offer, Shop Adventures the highlights of our Educational Pullout videos are always to be included in the weekly show to keep every viewer engaged.
Thank you Joe, Lance & Patrick.
super insightful as always, thanks guys
Hi gnargnarhead we welcome you and we thank you for liking our video on belt fusing, we have had a lot of comments and some great ides utilized by others some we did not think of ourselves when slicing a belt for our micro-machines, happy to have you here and have you sharing a good thought. From the high-desert of California Lance & Patrick.
This is Jeff fro. EDS INC Shandon. Watched during lunch today. Really enjoyed it. Very well done video. Love those classic tools!
Hi Jeff a few things here about Jeff, he is a family native to a Northern California more then 140 years, wow he also is a (FELLOW TH-cam CREATOR). We thank you for stopping in to look around and hope we have something we are doing that you like. Lance & Patrick.
Nice demo's Lance and Patrick.
Hi friend, wow 9 months late to this reply as we just discovered it sorry. Happy Friday to you. Lance & Patrick.
I just discovered your site. You gentlemen are very entertaining, but clearly the most important thing is you have a wealth of experience/knowledge which you share. Thank you for allowing me to share your videos. I'll be a better machinest hobbyist for the time spent visiting your site.
Hi Roy, we just found this missing comment form you we love comments so it was sad to find it late but we are happy we are here and can still replay to your great comment it was when you first discovered our channel Active Atom.
Great to read these very kind words from you they really keep us going well here. Thank you and sorry for this really late 8 plus months reply. Lance & Patrick.
Great video. The Barker mill is looking really good and those vises... Wow!
Thank you Hopper1, great videos also exist because it mentioned a friend OH THAT IS YOU and that Needle Gun lesson about how you rebuild the tool steel needles after much wear. Did you see the link to your lesson in the above description? We really appreciate knowing you. We love this Barker Milling Machine because it has a story that we will share along the way, as far as the vises go you should have seen them and we are used to Cosmoline, it is likely why we got them for so little from the guy selling them we really bought them not knowing what we were going to be getting. Thank you again Hopper1, your friends Lance and Patrick.
Been a while so be I watched you 2. Good to be back
Hi and a very soon Happy New Year 2020 will be here for both you and us Marlyn.
You watched, and we thank you for watching the belt fusing, neat may we share, we have learned many additional tips and techniques from fellow viewers after we filmed this video, we are reminded often through these social media outlets that we are still learning always.
Have a GREAT New Year 2020 Marlyn, Lance & Patrick.
Hi guys. Love your videos. I cut my belts with a tool that's used to cut small tubing and nylon hose. It holds the belt perfectly square and cuts it so smooth that its shiny after the cut. In the past I used to use a cigar cutter which works great also. For fusing the belts I have an electric wood burner that holds an Exacto style blade at the tip. The style of Exacto blade I use in the wood burner is the Exacto #18 which is squared and reassembled a paint scraper. And for removing the excess material after fusing I use the same tool. The hot exacto blade removes it effortlessly.
Hi Corey, nice to read your detailed description of your best application to perform the belt cutting and fusing, well done, in fact Patrick heard this comment I read to him, and he reminds me we use that same tool and bit usually used in gasket and paint and new paint over spraying detailed removal in our workshop doing so many restorations and rebuilds (love it details and honing skills). We use that same tool and bit as you are only it is on our really small diameter clear blue air line for the compressed air hose values and spray guns installations at each workstation here. We are so happy you shared what you do and to know you and we are not alone in our best efforts is a GREAT thing. Thank you for being here with us we like your ways of thinking. Lance for Lance & Patrick.
Love those vices - not just beautiful - art. -:)
Hi Peter A, we really work hard to acquire many of our tools some more then others but vises do just have a place in the heart of a many men.
We agree they, these vises are very accurate and extremely functional, thank you so much for this kind comment.
Lance & Patrick.
Hi Lance and Patrick,
When I join the round belting I remove the lip that is formed by using a bench grinder and carefully revolving the belt against the grind wheel takes off the lip without any risk of cutting yourself with a blade, try it next time you will be amazed at the result.
Thank you both for your time in making another enjoyable video...
Dave in the Uk.
Hi welcome Dave and thank you so much for taking the time to share with us and our fellow viewers, that is a great idea to use the belt grinder and without hesitation Patrick is going to give it go on the next belt we fuse. Keep sharing we are always open minded and listening for great new approaches to the daily challenges of being a machinist.
good video guys. I use a nail clipper to cut the leftovers in the belt and then use drummel tool with a stone to smoothen out the last bits
Hi JD Richards, he is a fellow TH-camr and watchmaker. We like your delicate choice in tools easy to control tweezers and as one of me, Lance's jobs is a finisher one of the tools in my arsenal a similar style powered tool they afford excellent controls with some training. You made a great recommendation the stone bit makes sense and thank you for sharing it here JD.
Thanks for the video.
Guys, I have a better way to do belts, perfect alignment every time.
Hi again and thank you for sharing your approach mosfet500 as we sure know there are quite a few ways to mate these belts and smooth the joint, it is great you have a good way as well says to us that there is a demand for this topic, so thank you for coming along with us here. Lance & Patrick.
@@ActiveAtom Give me a little time (I have to make another one), I'll mail you a new tool, I'll bet you like it!
@@mosfet500 We are happy to know you can help us that is what all this sharing and community is all about. Thank you very much, have a great week ahead. P.S. We love all tools, they are our whole life around here.
For the final belt trimming, I use a linoleum tile cutting gouge . Like the ones artist use for cutting printing plates. The blades come in different sizes and are disposable too ! You just slip one in the handle tighten it up and go at it...! Just lay the belt on the table and then lay the gouge on top and pull the belt through it ! Do a few passes and Presto, no more thummper belts !!
Hi Joe wow even in our near 3 decades coming up in May 2023 we are still learning, thankful to be always learning new things skills and where better to learn then from this great community of people.
We like what you shared, this linoleum tile cutting gouge researched this tool and can see how it works, we will buy it, hoping it (which it likely will work for us and then add it to our arsenal of solutions for the belt fusing.
We would like the no thummper zone here:)
Hey honestly Joe, we are thankful to have you here and to share with not just these two desert dwellers but with the community as well hope they read these comments and gather the wealth of great information and tips we are both thankful to be getting ourselves.
Lance & Patrick.
Hi,
Sorry to bother you but i have one question i would be grateful if you could answer.
For clarity the foot pedal is effectively only an ON and OFF switch, so when depressed it is on and if you take your foot OFF the power is cut.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Paul,,
Hi The Knackler's Workshop this is Lance for Lance and Patrick.
Nice to meet your workshop, speaking of these workshops, that is one of our areas converted for or into a work area that area is pressurized to reduce outside contaminates and is where we do spindle rebuilding and testing make watch parts and service watch movements generally just to share a bit with you.
You shared your question that is by the way a GREAT one a nd one we really never covered before in our show filming.
The small general parts polishing lathe with the foot petal is only an on off switch as on the control panel located on the wood work board there is a pole that has the veritable speed control on it so we adjust that speed of the motor and the spindle speed there before beginning work allowing us to remain with both hands free to operate the polishing machine and this method applies to our line of Levin lathes however we do have an all chrome Marshall benchtop lathe very old all rebuild however that does have the veritable motor and thus spindle speed control built into that pedal for speed control. Thank you for writing to us and asking this great question, hope to have new videos coming out soon that you might enjoy. Lance & Patrick.
I am embarking on a glassblower toolkit from ductile iron, micro drilling is the toughest part obviously. I'm about to make a collet for an air tool or dremel, the 3 jaw chuck holds ok, looks as though theres not much runout. but my collet material should be aluminum is this collet already available to hold .015"dia. that you know of?
Hi Jeff, we do not know of a solution here for our in regards to a rotary tool.
We like your shared question and it sounds like you are going to have a fun project.
Thank you for sharing.
Lance & Patrick.
31:40 what are those hand gravers called, can't find them online! :o
Hi ikkiiiieee what a handle you have there. We are so happy you asked about the gravers we utilize in our workshop area around the lathe.
They are Carbide Gravers. Stay away from Weller which was a popular brand for use on watchmaker lathes but they are not a good quality carbide. These from Eternal Tools have a good reputation.
www.eternaltools.com/gravers/carbide-gravers
Bergeon also currently makes them. They make 2 models which can be purchased at this UK website. Or search the model #'s listed for a supplier in your area.
www.cousinsuk.com/product/gravers-bergeon-specialist
Your comment is much appreciated and we thank you for joining us on our mission to share our approach and skills to the best of our abilities.
Lance & Patrick.
Thank you so much for writing this down, very helpfull! Loving the content. It is great to see these old tools in these pristine conditions. It is one thing to have a piece of art like that, but another to use them and keep them in such condition! Love the neatness of it all.
Another great video with plenty of variety and substance. What are the dimensions of the pairs of vises? Thanks guys.
Hello John Strange Lance reporting in here. There is the pair of vises and there is a single vise. The single vise came with vise jaws and the nicest sets of cap screws one could imagine just to share a bit, a company made those vise jaws as these precision machine vises do not require the use of vise jaws, they were just thrown in on the buy back then. The pair, the ones going to work on the once completed Barker Mill are 2.75 inch wide x 4.00 inch long opening minus jaws thickness x 2 times that the purchaser was to make their own for specific applications as these vises made by American Sun Inc do not need vise jaws these are machine vises but they are precision ground on 6 sides and best of all the vises use the similar technology as Kurt Vise the more you tighten them down the mechanism pulls the vise jaws down on the work. Patrick is sharing this with both you and I right now as I am typing.
Ahhh. I see. Nice scale for the table. but not lacking anything in precision or holding capability. Very nice guys. Thanks. @@ActiveAtom
I assume there is a very good reason the motor is mounted way back there and using long belts to turn the spindle like that?
Hello D&J Machine whom also has a channel and Daniel along with his brother Jeremy are building a wonderful business featuring a NEW building several lathes and a mill even a forklift (we want one) down in Texas, they machine a lot of stainless steel and they are working really hard to build a strong machining operation and still make videos.
Your question is a GREAT one Daniel, I consulted Patrick on this one. The micro drill press and nearly all of these vintage motor through pulley style machines we operate use the belt drive synthetic, leather made what have you.
Motors power micro machines by being located anywhere behind the machine above the machine under the table running up through the table anyplace they could end up in line direct drive from motor to action or through a stepper pulley to change the motor speeds to a device.
The belts run from the motor over a tension and idler pulley from there things are more liquid what I mean is as you move the quill in this case up and down the belt moves along with it and in this case again it does this wrap around the quill two times making the drill more stable under load as to not (reduce) slip while drilling a micro hole. One other example to why the motor sits back behind the machines as some length is like on some lathe attachments is because the belt moves while in operation from say left to right by a few inches in either direction so having the motor back behind the actual cutting area allows flexibility during these movements reducing restricted or tension issues.
Are you guys familiar with LCengineering? What kind of parts will you guys make?
Hi Yota Doug (FELLOW TH-cam CREATOR) we see who LC Engineering is that are an aftermarket manufacturer of great upgrades for your YOTA (Toyota truck), while we do not know the company, we do see they to are located in the same desert as we are in the same desert only they get to be nearest the Colorado River and they are in Arizona and not our State of California. Their manufacturing facility is only 172 miles one way and 192 miles another way from our business here in the town of Yucca Valley, thank you for the share and for stopping in to see what we do, we make high precision machined aerospace grade materials micro scale luxury product and machine tools (product is under wraps until announced here on Shop Adventures Doug, Lance & Patrick.
@@ActiveAtom Thats awesome! I enjoy what you guys put out so far, the way you 2 engage with each other it isn't boring. The communication and delivery is what keeps me watching these longer videos that you guys put out, a lot of people try to stay between 5 minute increments and be around the 10-15 min mark it seems. Might as well keeping it rolling if you can stay interesting which you guys are.
Hey wow thank you Yota, we know what we do is not for all people but we hope you will come back like a video or two and think, can I learn something here? and make my lifetime of knowledge a bit more diverse?
We are both sure hoping so (it is mostly why we are here sharing our private no more lives) happy you are here to see what we do, Since you are new and while we might not always be something you want to hang around and watch, but sometimes we will have some fun sharing diverse and of some interest to you.
This coming Monday Lance has a talk with wood as wood and Lance are not really good friends so he attempts to show how the wood and Lance are working together to build a really neat work space named the "Grinding Hut".
Lance (me) and Patrick are childhood friends who met playing hide and go seek around spring 1975, we have been best friends ever sense Yota.
We did not win a gift card from Justin's video last night but 2 people did saw you were chimed in as well during the video.
Your newer friends in the California Desert Lance & Patrick.
A calibrated hand tension device! What type editing software do you use. My fast forward is terrible. Small but high precision machine tools!! Cosmoline, did you bake it off, or chemically remove it? I found that brake cleaner will remove Cosmoline, but baking at low temperatures will also remove it. We used to build light bulb ovens out of metal 30gal trash cans, to bake Cosmoline out of wooden gun stocks. You guys do great work. Do you have a Patreon, or PayPalMe, account?
Hello Vernon Lance here having a great day we hope you are as well. Are you teasing Patrick's belt work with that Calibrated comment? Ok the editing software we use currently is Adobe Premiere Pro. We utilize acetone because this stuff and I wish I would have began filming before you see the final result of these pretty shiny steel vises because after like 2 decades these were really bad and we know Cosmoline somewhat. There is even a sine plate coming through right now as well, but it is already beyond the Cosmoline removal stage but we will try the baking thing for sure. We like the idea of baking it never occurred to us what is a little heat going to hurt, this is steel, we are thankful you are sharing this with us and we look forward to trying this baking at a low heat Cosmoline removal way Vernon in the future. Thank you so much about the Patreon PayPal thing it is something we are not doing for right now however know this Vernon, it is these comments you and others write that drive Patrick and I, the feedback the thoughts, ideas and helpful guidance and your kind humor and words are rewards enough for now and we thank you Vernon for being our friend.
@@ActiveAtom Yep! Just joking with Patrick.. However, an experience individual can usually determine through "feel" the correct tension! I love to watch your videos. Take care, and we will see you next time!
Speaking of heat and cosmoline, you might even try leaving the metal out in the hot desert sun on a piece of old plywood so that the cosmoline will run off onto something where you can control the mess. I have done that in the hot Texas sun a few times and it has done a decent job getting the bulk off before hitting it with brake or carb cleaner.
My two cents worth.... 8)
There is a size small the oxa I use it on my atlas lathe
Got it right.
Great videos. Keep them coming. What sort of product will you be pursuing?
Hi really nice to have you here Mitch Wright, this is Lance. We are actually sharing our journey. We live in a rural California Desert town and have been friends since childhood 40 plus years living and working together everyday since May 1993.
The short answer Mitch Wright is we are not dead set (still battling out details in-house) on what it will be it will be very small, appeal to both the consumer and the mechanically inclined, will likely be made in a very limited edition because of the detail and being made though manual machining means and by only the two of us all in-house from start through to finish and shared through TH-cam covering each step of the making process.
Back Story (optional detailed reading)
We acquired these vintage machines over the past 2 decades maybe longer because of Patrick as he loves these machines and tools very much even though he is also a SolidWORKS CNC programmer.
It is the vintage machines and tools mostly from the watchmaker world that allowed us to made our living up until we decided we were going to stop (TAKE A BIG RISK) making watch, timing and instrument parts and repairing vintage wristwatches for others and begin making our drawings into real products that others can enjoy, share and leave to the next generation.
The machines and tools are a big part of this journey to begin making the product we hand drew many years ago and turn it into a product.
In order to begin making the best product we are able, we must as we are filming rebuild the actual machines and tools to accomplish the product making to follow in 2019.
Great @@ActiveAtom I'll be following along...
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We like that you like our shows, we LOVE making these shows and using them to share and make friends like you here. Thank you again see us again in shows soon. Lance & Patrick.