Happy Independence Day! I have to believe this has been said before but if not, today’s episode cemented it. Mr Magnante is a Car-chaeologist. Indiana Jones, step aside for Massachusetts Mags. The history you uncover is more than impressive. Sir, thank you and Super Shane as always.
@@ThatGuyInOhio72 Thanks for watching and writing. I am humbled by the fact other folks take these cars seriously enough to keep watching these videos. It also puzzles me why Motor Trend called my presentation "too technical". I feel I'm never technical enough and wish I had an hour to cover each single vehicle. They're certainly worthy of the exposure. In future, I may engage a fork lift or bucket loader to be able to investigate the underpinnings of these vehicles to add more information to the discussion. Until then, THANK YOU for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante Mr. B. Here ! Don’t cut yourself short many of love insights on the vehicles some more than others ! Your good at what you thank you ! Happy 4th ! 👍🍺🌭🍔🍕🍺
@@SteveMagnanteI’ll never understand the cancellation either. However, I think the work you and Shane are doing here is even better. I’ll reiterate - thank you both. ~ Chuck
Happy July 4th! In May of 1974 my lady friend and I drove my 59 Karmann Ghia in New York City down Times Square past the the Twin tower Trade Center on our way to the Statue of Liberty. The rockers had some serious car'thritis so there was no heat. We draped a Hudson Bay Co blanket over over legs to keep from freezing. Similarly the defroster was useless but a roll of paper towels sufficed. That year this Karmann Ghia took me from the Pacific Ocean in BC to the Atlantic Ocean in NYC! I even stopped in Rochester NY on my way home to visit with the Blues legend Son House. We spent an afternoon at his apartment drinking beer and listening to him play some blood curdling slide guitar and moaning. On the wall of his living room was hanging a large wide picture of his 3 heros....MLK, JFK and RFK. Afterwards he jumped in my Karmann Ghia and I took him to the corner liquor store to p/u a jug of wine for him. Good Times....i still have my Harmony guitar that he played on.
Great memories! I had a ‘68 rag top. Had to wear my ski suit and scrape the inside of the windows. That was when we had winter here in the Mid Atlantic
Ghia built the Exner Chrysler Norseman concept car for 150.000$ (one and a half millions in today's dollars) in 1956 but it was lost in the sinking of the Andrea Doria liner near New-York along with 46 passengers.
I worked at a custom/restoration shop in Florida in the early 70's. The owner was a vw fan. He had 2 dune buggies, cut down from vw vans, and a couple of bugs. He had a bug with 30 k miles on it and had alot of valve noise. One Saturday we pulled the engine to do a valve job. They were carboned up, but none were burnt. After a quick resurfacing/reseating we put it back together. The valves still rattled. The next weekend I helped him drop the engine and went to work on disassembling a camaro for restoration. He was placing the valves on a bench, stem up. From across the shop they look ed odd. As I walked towards them I noticed the stem lengths were slightly different. I showed him, and after closer inspection we realized the valve stems had stretched. He replaced all the valves, problem solved. I'm sure many have heard the stories of, I had a friend, or my parents had a bug that went 100k without a rebuild. My thoughts are, if it went 100k, they pushed it 70k of those miles!! Lol Happy 4th, and happy birthday 🇺🇸!
I too, have heard stories of those 100k bug engines. Every one I knew of maybe lasted 50-60k at most. After that each subsequent engine lasted less than half the miles of the previous rebuild! But J.C. Whitney would have everything you needed. And Happy 4th to you!
@@burthenry7740 Even Sears had specific catalogs devoted to popular cars, including VW. I've seen some old catalogs when they were touting their metric tools and how they had the tools needed to service "today's foreign cars". At that time, some US cars still used SAE fasteners, although by the time my 1979 Trans Ams was built, you had to buy the combination SAE and metric sockets and wrench sets to have what you needed to properly fix them. I still have both my original Craftsman wrench set bought back then (duplicated probably ten times over with other I got in a package deal or picked up cheap over the years) along with the 1990 mechanic's tool set I bought new. I still have the receipt for it and it's 95% original with only a few sockets replaced over the years. I just used it yesterday in fact.
@@BuzzLOLOL Yes, due to heat and valve spring tension they will 'neck down' or become thinner (thus longer) just above the head of the valve. Fairly common on old engines. Weird huh?
@@googleusergpmy father still has his first Craftsman set and box from 1955. We both have accumulated a vast array of real American made hand tools. Pop operated his own shop for 17 years beginning about 1986. We have some foreign made hand tools too. I’m a Union Millwright and have learned that on some jobs it’s better to have some cheap hand tools as it doesn’t hurt as much when they walk off. Just a couple days ago I bought some US made measuring tools from a neighbor who passed. A couple years ago I scored an old American made tool box ( MBC out of Chicago ). It was full of American made hand tools. It even had old Husky tools with “Made in the USA” on them. The widow I got them from was down sizing. I paid $100. The SnapOn 3/8” drive swivel sockets were worth that.
"Where does this guy get all his gadgets and information?".No Joke...Steve has more magazine specs and plastic model car examples than a professor in a Masters Class. I just marvel at his expertise and well of knowledge..I could listen to his channel for hours. Who could imagine a "junkyard crawl" would be so entertaining. Mr. Magnante...you are a Maestro! Why you are not on Netfliks or Vudu or something with a wider arc of viewership. There are plenty of us ol' gearheads that would eat this stuff up. Kudos!!
Great video! Always learn new and interesting things about automotive history from Steve. A minor note of interest: the Ghia floor pan was wider than the beetle's by about 7 inches, so was unique to the Ghia.
Morning Steve.... a happy 4th of July to you and all proud American cousins south of the border. Always liked the ghia,buddy had one with a porche transplant . Ran like a bat outta hell.
The U.S. Beetle saw the introduction of the 4 Lug Rim in 1968. The 4 Lug design was actually introduced in Europe with the 1967 model, but didn't make it to the U.S. until the following year.
Also, @ 9:25 in the film, this car has a "Ball Joint" front end ..... This did not come out until 1966 (?) and the two different beams, king pin vs ball joint were not interchangeable th-cam.com/video/VocRlfxDXPg/w-d-xo.html
@@kenwolford6901 I posted that because Steve mentioned the 4 lug style came out in '67 and knew it was '68 for U.S.A. cars, and that is what most people encounter here and wanted to correct Steve's mention. FYI- I was a VW Dealer certified Mechanic in the 1970's and knew all this.
My buddy bought a brand new one in73,was lime green,,,had a cassette player,,,we spent many hours driving around listening to Jethro Tull Aqualung smoking the devils weed fun times great memories
Dig the cleated snow tires on the back of this one.... a sure sign it was packed full of road salt and left to rot! A sad but common fate to most cars and trucks used in any of the "rust states". Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@DanEBoyd Except that the 2.5L Iron Duke, while a good engine, couldn't hold a candle to the simplicity of the VW engine. It as the "Slant 6" of the VW world.
Very Interesting & Informative, Thank You Steve. This was my moms ' Holy Grail' car. All though she always had some nice car like '64.5 & '67 Mustangs, '56 Chevy convertible etc., but even now if she spies one in traffic she will let out a Sigh of Remorse
Fascinating, always something new, Virgil was more prolific than I ever guessed. Looking at the Chrysler ghia, the headlight surround is very much reminiscent of the Barris built Lincoln in The Car. Or have I been pumping too much av gas?? Who can tell! Thanks for another great video, Steve
Funny you mention the tail pipe inserts and whistling sound. VW nerds call it "fweem". I sold a 66 beetle yesterday, and one of the things I did when awakening the car from its 50 year slumber was to remove those inserts. Not a fan of that whistle. Two notes to make here, those wheels are correct for 66-67 KG and Beetle. This car would have had smooth wheels with no slots. Also, the running gear and suspension is the same as a beetle, but the chassis(also know as the pan) is different.
Just curious, is the K-G floor pan an entirely different construction (for the extra floor width and body shell width) OR simply a set of outboard panels added to fill the gaps where the Bug running boards would have been fitted? So many questions on EVERY one of the cars and trucks I see in my Junkyard Crawl journey. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante The central "spine" and the front and rear bulkheads for mounting suspension and transaxle are the same. But the left and right floor pans of the KG are quite different overall, mostly in width but also in shape, especially in the front footwell area. KG bodies were pretty much hand built, so replacing body panels is not a simple task of welding it into place. Even the very best quality panels will need some work to fit properly.
@@corey6393I wrecked my ‘68 convertible. I had an empty fuel tank and slid in the rain rear ending a Mercury Bobcat ( Pinto ). The front of my Ghia had a bumper imprint across it and buckled the sheet metal against the front tires. My tires were stuck in the turned position showing I tried to avoid the collision. My car was repaired by cutting it across the pan and splicing in the front end of a good car. I was a teenager then and had a shop do the work. I can’t speak to exactly where the cut was made and how it was reinforced.
Steve I worked at Chrysler it was interesting to see how the designers and the engineers had to adapt. What was fantastic in clay could not be made in metal. So some adaptations needed to be made.
At 3.33 in the lower RH corner showing just the front of the show car in the magazine. To me, it looks very similar to the front end of the Chrysler 300 from 2005 to 2007.
Slight correction on the HVAC controls...the lever on the right (red knob) turns on and off the flow of heated air into the cabin. The lever on the left (white knob) directs the heat to either the front of the car (footwell & dash vents) or to the heater vents in the back of the car
When I was a kid, the family down the street had like 12 or 13 kids, and their family ride was an extended '72ish Dodge passenger van. But the Father drove Volkswagens, including a mid-to-late '70s Bug convertible which had Karmann Ghia badges on the sides of the cowl area!
@@googleusergp When Eric Carmen's hit single "All By Myself" was A Thing in the 1970's, every time the radio DJ said his name after playing the song, I immediately thought of my 2nd grade teacher Miss McCarthy's red Karmann-Ghia. I've been ill for a very long time! -Steve Magnante
My 2nd car was a ‘68 Ghia rag top. I currently have a ‘68 Ghia coupe that needs restored. The convertible was a fun car. Wipers wouldn’t work in the rain and I had to wear my ski suit in the winter and scrape the frost off the inside of the windshield.
Can Car window's be Polished/ Refurbished If So Who does Refurbishing of Vehicle Glass Windows? ( Front, Back, and Side) Is there any place that Specializes in Restoring Automotive Glass, you can send to have done?
Look for cerium oxide. It's available as a kit with polishing pads. A long, slow process. If it's windshield wiper marks, they will leave a slight depression in the glass. It can distort the view. It's better than nothing, but not a cure-all.
Didnt the later ones come with the semi-automatic transmission? I seem to remember a script on the back labeling some of these cars as being equipped with them.
They did. In 1968, the semi automatic was available. It was quite an interesting design. In basic terms, it had a conventional gearbox...3 speed rather than a 4 speed that every non automatic VW had..., But it had a torque converter and a clutch! The torque converter allowed idling in gear like a normal automatic and the clutch allowed gear changes. The strange part of that is, there was no clutch pedal! There was a micro switch on the gear shifter, so when you touched the gear shift lever, it would electrically engage the clutch for gear changes! Really bizarre. If you inadvertantly rested your hand on the shifter while driving, it would kick out the clutch and the engine would just Rev til you took your hand off! First gear was just for pulling a steep hill and such from a dead stop. You could run around town leaving it in second gear and you would have to shift from second to third once you were underway for freeway driving. Once you got used to it, it was pretty cool...kinda like the best of both worlds.
1200cc 40Hp, VW used a 36HP 1200 up until 1961[?]. 40 HP can be identified by the bolt on generator support. 36HP had the generator support as part of the block casting. That's all I got, 1973 was a long time ago...lol
I have a 1971 Karmann Ghia coupe it is my Daily Driver…. I had my first one in 1972…! It was a convertible 1965 …. Whenever I read anything about Karmann Ghia’s they always say the production run was between ( 1955 only Europe ) Ship to the US ( 1956 to 1974 ) I have never seen or heard of a 1975 Karmann Ghia…???
I'm pretty sure 74 was the last year. 75 started all the emissions stuff and a think the low production numbers compared to beetle and the new rabbit and it's cousins made the Ghia not worth the effort to update. They had bigger fish to fry. I don't know for a fact that is why the Ghia was dropped for '75, but it seems logical.
He misspoke on that, 1974 was the last year for the Karmann Ghia. It was replaced by the Scirocco for the 1975 model year in the US. It was introduced in Europe in 1974.
@@googleusergp The John Gunnel book "Air Cooled VW HIstory" says Karmann Ghias were built in Brazil into 1975. I thought about ignoring these non-U.S.-spec cars but figured an international viewer might call me to task...so I included the Brazilian run. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante Yes, but since the vehicle is in the US, that's what counts (I'm not discounting international viewers), because export markets are unique. They sometimes have engines that can't be sold in the US anymore due to emissions and fuel regulations, etc.
Mr B at one time VW talked about bringing the Ghia back. This was around 1990. It would have competed with the Mazda Miata. I was working in the automotive industry at that time. A trade publication Automotive Insider, had a picture of what the new Ghia might look like. I cut that picture out and kept on my fridge for years
Cool stuff Steve but i have to say those heater controls started in 65 and it has a ball joint front end that started in 66 replacing the king pin style suspension... also those wheels are 66 soooo im saying its a 66.. thanks for sharing 😎 🇺🇸✌️
That’s what I say as well. It’s six volt with ball joint front end. Heater controls dual Five lug wheels and. Steve forgot to mention the single master cylinder.
Man I used to see so many of those in the 70s! My neighbor had two of them! One was in fair condition and the other one was rotting away! Kinda sad! It was definitely one beautiful styled car! He also had a few beetles!
Bolt pattern looks a lot like the "wide 5" bolt pattern seen on Modifieds, and some division of stock cars that race at Seekonk, Stafford and Thompson.
I'm with you. Many of the Modified stock cars were based on 1936-1938 Fords - which had those odd HUGE bolt circles and wheels with huge center openings. Not sure why Ford only went three model years with this configuration. I know 1939 brought Lockheed hydraulic brakes and the tighter 5-lug hubs. Maybe the Lockheed drums needed the smaller stud circle? Maybe the earlier mechanical drums needed the spaced-out lugs? So many questions. And lets not forget that Pontiac's 1959 - 1969 8-lug wheels and aluminum drums used a similarly huge bolt circle. I may do a side-by-side comparison video on these three wheel types some day soon. There is one of each example at Bernardston Auto Wrecking. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
The main difference, other than engine placement, was size. The Karmann Ghia was TINY compared to the American alternative. I have seen one after a wreck, and they didn't help the occupants survive.
Buddy of mine owned a '61. It rusted badly due to Detroit winter salt laden roads. Drove to San Diego when stationed in the Navy in '67 & was constantly stopped by the locals wondering what happened to the Ghia. He said some thought it was cool & wanted to buy it. Fun car though. Too bad it literally disintegrated.
Chrysler could bring back that de elegance in 2024 and have a hit new car on today’s market. Even if it was a 4 banger/EV type thing. People are hungry for a car with styling !
@@bruceprentice6441 I agree. Maybe the 'Ugly Deep Sea Creature' or 'Angry Insect' style is starting to end. Seems a few cars and trucks are actually getting better looking. Or just less ugly! 🤔
When inside the car Driving it. It could be pretty scary. Being so small and all. The windshield was pretty close to your face. For get about air bags and safety features like todays cars. Just look at James deans accident. Similar to this car . Even though his was a Porsche. They say cars are cheaper now but they are designed to crumble to save lives .
A friend of mines brother was killed when he crashed one of those. He was going on a group trip with the school and had forgotten something after he got to town. They lived several miles out of town and he flew home. There was a downhill with some curves on the way back. He missed one and wadded it up. Needless to say it didn't offer much protection. I always thought these cars were kinda cool but after that not so much. R.I.P. Mathew.
this was a studie by chrysler they didnt run with it the same company made a studie for vw and they ran with it not long after this chrysler made the 1960 valiant which would you have picked?
The Karmann Ghia actually ended production in May of 1974, not 1975. I own one of the very last Karmann Ghia’s built. Built in the last month of production.
@@burthenry7740What about a pressurized bottle with the schrader valve. Maybe put a bicycle tube in there. I used a finger dash mounted pump on a67 Renault 10.
The Karmann Ghia had a different floor pan than the beetle I believe it was a little bit wider I know they used it on the German built military m181 Kubalwagon of the late 60s and 70s and also the VW Acapulco and Thing. Also I thought the Karmann Ghia usually had the little bit bigger engine than the beetle.?
Always loved the look of these. Had a 69 Beetle, but never owned a Karman Ghia! (Would love one but not sure my 6.5ft body would fit. (Not a problem in the Beetles though!)
I love those cars.never knew about the washer fluid system.that's crazy. Simple.not very reliabble.pinhole leak somewhere or forget to pressurize it before you drive and you are out of luck .better off with the bulb on the floor you step on I think.
I believe that this method of driving the washer jets was used on the Beetle as well. I suppose that a side benefit is that the driver would be forced to check the tire pressure of the spare every few months.
Actually after many useses the spare tire was flat, because the tire is what pressurized the washer bottle by a hose connected to each schrader valve. I drove a 69 VW with the same setup. I also drove a 67 Renault 10, Made in France. It had a small pump stem on the dash that squirt fluid on the windshield. I was in my teens then. Today just turn a switch and automatically wash and wipers clean the glass.
The spare tire to the washer tank set-up had a regulator/check valve which would stop the flow of air before the tire went flat. Somewhere around 24-28 psi. A clever set-up! But the valves can and did fail. We would air the spare up to about 40 psi in the winter! 😁
@@googleusergp Yup! Worked at a tire shop when I was in high school. Lots of people (not just VW owners) carried a hand powered tire pump in their trunks. No plug-in 12 volt compressors back then! Although one VW customer had two spare tires he'd swap out for the washer system!
Happy Independence Day!
I have to believe this has been said before but if not, today’s episode cemented it. Mr Magnante is a Car-chaeologist. Indiana Jones, step aside for Massachusetts Mags. The history you uncover is more than impressive.
Sir, thank you and Super Shane as always.
I chuckled when Steve said "Car-thritis" when trying to operate the seized release lever, but "Car-chaeologist" is pretty good too. 🙂
Seriously, Sir, I've read you for years, and truly appreciate the history and details you've provided. Thanks for your dedication.
@@ThatGuyInOhio72 Thanks for watching and writing. I am humbled by the fact other folks take these cars seriously enough to keep watching these videos. It also puzzles me why Motor Trend called my presentation "too technical". I feel I'm never technical enough and wish I had an hour to cover each single vehicle. They're certainly worthy of the exposure. In future, I may engage a fork lift or bucket loader to be able to investigate the underpinnings of these vehicles to add more information to the discussion. Until then, THANK YOU for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante Mr. B. Here ! Don’t cut yourself short many of love insights on the vehicles some more than others ! Your good at what you thank you ! Happy 4th ! 👍🍺🌭🍔🍕🍺
@@SteveMagnanteI’ll never understand the cancellation either. However, I think the work you and Shane are doing here is even better. I’ll reiterate - thank you both. ~ Chuck
Happy July 4th!
In May of 1974 my lady friend and I drove my 59 Karmann Ghia in New York City down Times Square past the the Twin tower Trade Center on our way to the Statue of Liberty.
The rockers had some serious car'thritis so there was no heat. We draped a Hudson Bay Co blanket over over legs to keep from freezing. Similarly the defroster was useless but a roll of paper towels sufficed. That year this Karmann Ghia took me from the Pacific Ocean in BC to the Atlantic Ocean in NYC!
I even stopped in Rochester NY on my way home to visit with the Blues legend Son House. We spent an afternoon at his apartment drinking beer and listening to him play some blood curdling slide guitar and moaning. On the wall of his living room was hanging a large wide picture of his 3 heros....MLK, JFK and RFK. Afterwards he jumped in my Karmann Ghia and I took him to the corner liquor store to p/u a jug of wine for him.
Good Times....i still have my Harmony guitar that he played on.
Greetings from Rochester!
Great memories! I had a ‘68 rag top. Had to wear my ski suit and scrape the inside of the windows. That was when we had winter here in the Mid Atlantic
Ghia built the Exner Chrysler Norseman concept car for 150.000$ (one and a half millions in today's dollars) in 1956 but it was lost in the sinking of the Andrea Doria liner near New-York along with 46 passengers.
The Andria Doria sank off the coast of Nantucket Mass. 1,660 passengers were saved.
Do they know the exact location? Can the use a submersible to see it?
@privateprivate1865 in light of recent events, I don't think there's much interest in performing such explorations.
A diver said only the wheels are still recognisable.
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I worked at a custom/restoration shop in Florida in the early 70's. The owner was a vw fan. He had 2 dune buggies, cut down from vw vans, and a couple of bugs. He had a bug with 30 k miles on it and had alot of valve noise. One Saturday we pulled the engine to do a valve job. They were carboned up, but none were burnt. After a quick resurfacing/reseating we put it back together. The valves still rattled. The next weekend I helped him drop the engine and went to work on disassembling a camaro for restoration. He was placing the valves on a bench, stem up. From across the shop they look ed odd. As I walked towards them I noticed the stem lengths were slightly different. I showed him, and after closer inspection we realized the valve stems had stretched. He replaced all the valves, problem solved. I'm sure many have heard the stories of, I had a friend, or my parents had a bug that went 100k without a rebuild. My thoughts are, if it went 100k, they pushed it 70k of those miles!! Lol Happy 4th, and happy birthday 🇺🇸!
I too, have heard stories of those 100k bug engines. Every one I knew of maybe lasted 50-60k at most. After that each subsequent engine lasted less than half the miles of the previous rebuild! But J.C. Whitney would have everything you needed. And Happy 4th to you!
@@burthenry7740 Even Sears had specific catalogs devoted to popular cars, including VW. I've seen some old catalogs when they were touting their metric tools and how they had the tools needed to service "today's foreign cars". At that time, some US cars still used SAE fasteners, although by the time my 1979 Trans Ams was built, you had to buy the combination SAE and metric sockets and wrench sets to have what you needed to properly fix them. I still have both my original Craftsman wrench set bought back then (duplicated probably ten times over with other I got in a package deal or picked up cheap over the years) along with the 1990 mechanic's tool set I bought new. I still have the receipt for it and it's 95% original with only a few sockets replaced over the years. I just used it yesterday in fact.
Uh... the valve stems had stretched ???
@@BuzzLOLOL Yes, due to heat and valve spring tension they will 'neck down' or become thinner (thus longer) just above the head of the valve. Fairly common on old engines. Weird huh?
@@googleusergpmy father still has his first Craftsman set and box from 1955. We both have accumulated a vast array of real American made hand tools. Pop operated his own shop for 17 years beginning about 1986. We have some foreign made hand tools too. I’m a Union Millwright and have learned that on some jobs it’s better to have some cheap hand tools as it doesn’t hurt as much when they walk off.
Just a couple days ago I bought some US made measuring tools from a neighbor who passed. A couple years ago I scored an old American made tool box ( MBC out of Chicago ). It was full of American made hand tools. It even had old Husky tools with “Made in the USA” on them. The widow I got them from was down sizing. I paid $100. The SnapOn 3/8” drive swivel sockets were worth that.
"Where does this guy get all his gadgets and information?".No Joke...Steve has more magazine specs and plastic model car examples than a professor in a Masters Class. I just marvel at his expertise and well of knowledge..I could listen to his channel for hours. Who could imagine a "junkyard crawl" would be so entertaining. Mr. Magnante...you are a Maestro! Why you are not on Netfliks or Vudu or something with a wider arc of viewership. There are plenty of us ol' gearheads that would eat this stuff up. Kudos!!
Always wanted a 66. Happy 4th Everyone 😊
Great video! Always learn new and interesting things about automotive history from Steve. A minor note of interest: the Ghia floor pan was wider than the beetle's by about 7 inches, so was unique to the Ghia.
Morning Steve.... a happy 4th of July to you and all proud American cousins south of the border. Always liked the ghia,buddy had one with a porche transplant . Ran like a bat outta hell.
Happy Fourth of July to you professor Steve thank you for all your videos they keep me going each morning peace
Steve Magnante, FYI- incorrect info on '67 VW Beetle/Karmann Ghia Wheels- they were still 5 Lug until 1968 when they changed over to 4-lug style. !
The U.S. Beetle saw the introduction of the 4 Lug Rim in 1968. The 4 Lug design was actually introduced in Europe with the 1967 model, but didn't make it to the U.S. until the following year.
Also, @ 9:25 in the film, this car has a "Ball Joint" front end ..... This did not come out until 1966 (?) and the two different beams, king pin vs ball joint were not interchangeable th-cam.com/video/VocRlfxDXPg/w-d-xo.html
@@kenwolford6901 I posted that because Steve mentioned the 4 lug style came out in '67 and knew it was '68 for U.S.A. cars, and that is what most people encounter here and wanted to correct Steve's mention. FYI- I was a VW Dealer certified Mechanic in the 1970's and knew all this.
Must have hit a stop sign...
Or perhaps a kitten. -Steve Magnante
@SteveMagnante Steve one ran into the side of my 80 Cordoba and just put a dent in door, but of course the Karma Ghia was totaled 🙃
Thanks Steve, another great installment of automotive history! Happy 4th !!!
My buddy bought a brand new one in73,was lime green,,,had a cassette player,,,we spent many hours driving around listening to Jethro Tull Aqualung smoking the devils weed fun times great memories
Thick as a Brick! Ahh, the good old days. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
If you sneezed Steve, that one would cease to exist all together. The rust always wins in the end.
Dig the cleated snow tires on the back of this one.... a sure sign it was packed full of road salt and left to rot! A sad but common fate to most cars and trucks used in any of the "rust states". Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
I always thought the "whistling exhaust" sounded like the Jetsons' car.
And the Pontiac 2.5 liter Iron Dork four cylinder had a sort of burbling sound to it, which I thought very loosely imitated the air-cooled VW sound.
@@DanEBoyd Except that the 2.5L Iron Duke, while a good engine, couldn't hold a candle to the simplicity of the VW engine. It as the "Slant 6" of the VW world.
Very Interesting & Informative, Thank You Steve. This was my moms ' Holy Grail' car. All though she always had some nice car like '64.5 & '67 Mustangs, '56 Chevy convertible etc., but even now if she spies one in traffic she will let out a Sigh of Remorse
Fascinating, always something new, Virgil was more prolific than I ever guessed. Looking at the Chrysler ghia, the headlight surround is very much reminiscent of the Barris built Lincoln in The Car. Or have I been pumping too much av gas?? Who can tell! Thanks for another great video, Steve
Wow, as a lifelong VW guy (who once owned a Karmann-Ghia convertible) all I can say is, Mind Blown!
Funny you mention the tail pipe inserts and whistling sound. VW nerds call it "fweem". I sold a 66 beetle yesterday, and one of the things I did when awakening the car from its 50 year slumber was to remove those inserts. Not a fan of that whistle.
Two notes to make here, those wheels are correct for 66-67 KG and Beetle. This car would have had smooth wheels with no slots. Also, the running gear and suspension is the same as a beetle, but the chassis(also know as the pan) is different.
Just curious, is the K-G floor pan an entirely different construction (for the extra floor width and body shell width) OR simply a set of outboard panels added to fill the gaps where the Bug running boards would have been fitted? So many questions on EVERY one of the cars and trucks I see in my Junkyard Crawl journey. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante The central "spine" and the front and rear bulkheads for mounting suspension and transaxle are the same. But the left and right floor pans of the KG are quite different overall, mostly in width but also in shape, especially in the front footwell area.
KG bodies were pretty much hand built, so replacing body panels is not a simple task of welding it into place. Even the very best quality panels will need some work to fit properly.
@@corey6393I wrecked my ‘68 convertible. I had an empty fuel tank and slid in the rain rear ending a Mercury Bobcat ( Pinto ). The front of my Ghia had a bumper imprint across it and buckled the sheet metal against the front tires. My tires were stuck in the turned position showing I tried to avoid the collision.
My car was repaired by cutting it across the pan and splicing in the front end of a good car.
I was a teenager then and had a shop do the work. I can’t speak to exactly where the cut was made and how it was reinforced.
I had no idea!! I fell in love with the Ghia in 1975 but have still never owned one.
Steve I worked at Chrysler it was interesting to see how the designers and the engineers had to adapt. What was fantastic in clay could not be made in metal. So some adaptations needed to be made.
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What period where you there? You're not partially responsible for the Crossfire?
At 3.33 in the lower RH corner showing just the front of the show car in the magazine. To me, it looks very similar to the front end of the Chrysler 300 from 2005 to 2007.
I’d love to have a karmann Ghia with a 2276 cc stroker motor in it. They’re such cool looking cars and bigger inside for a bigger guy like myself
Me too ! Hot VW lives !
Slight correction on the HVAC controls...the lever on the right (red knob) turns on and off the flow of heated air into the cabin. The lever on the left (white knob) directs the heat to either the front of the car (footwell & dash vents) or to the heater vents in the back of the car
Yep, "cold air" wasn't really a thing unless it was cold outside.
Interesting video Steve! 👍👍💯🇺🇸
Happy Independence Day!💥🎉
I have owned many muscle cars in the past but I always thought Karmann Ghia and Beatles are cool!😎the exhaust note is neat!👍
The "Beatles" are really cool. So are the Stones. 😉
I have owned many air-cooled Beetles. Loved them all.
I think they are a nice looking ride!! My Uncle had a 68 in British Green & i think it was a convertible if i remember correctly .
Excellent video as always, Steve. Just for the sake of knowledge, the 4 bolt wheels came out in 1968.
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Yes, along with the 4 jointed transaxle
@@dustydon6419 Among other things - big changes for both the Beetle and Ghia (and even the bus!) in 68.
When I was a kid, the family down the street had like 12 or 13 kids, and their family ride was an extended '72ish Dodge passenger van. But the Father drove Volkswagens, including a mid-to-late '70s Bug convertible which had Karmann Ghia badges on the sides of the cowl area!
The newest it could have been was a 1979 model as that was the last year the Beetle was sold new in the US market.
It was a Karmann badge since the beetle convertibles were built there.
@@corey6393 Karmann also was involved in the top on my Pontiac G6 convertible as well.
@@googleusergp When Eric Carmen's hit single "All By Myself" was A Thing in the 1970's, every time the radio DJ said his name after playing the song, I immediately thought of my 2nd grade teacher Miss McCarthy's red Karmann-Ghia. I've been ill for a very long time! -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante Indeed if that's what she was driving, she was "all by herself".
One of my uncles had a yellow convertible with black interior. It was a great little car
Prayers to you and your family Steve ....We miss you,.......speedy recovery my friend
What is the car over your left shoulder at about 2:00? I'm falling in love with late 50s small cars...
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My 2nd car was a ‘68 Ghia rag top. I currently have a ‘68 Ghia coupe that needs restored.
The convertible was a fun car. Wipers wouldn’t work in the rain and I had to wear my ski suit in the winter and scrape the frost off the inside of the windshield.
Quality video as per usual.
Happy 4th of July!!!Enjoy!
Steve! You are a walking encyclopedia of vehicle facts and I luv to hear these facts! Thank you so much! I even listen when I'm not interested !😊
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We're all pulling for you Steve. Hope to see you soon
first job out of high school the gas station near the local Collage changing tires with those rims were a nightmare
Thanks, Steve, for reminding me that I was always one of the slow cars at the Pinewood Derby. 😀
Beetle had the stabilizer as well.
Can Car window's be Polished/ Refurbished
If So Who does Refurbishing of Vehicle Glass Windows? ( Front, Back, and Side)
Is there any place that Specializes in Restoring Automotive Glass, you can send to have done?
Diamond paste? Large high speed buffer..... Probably cheaper to buy the tools
Look for cerium oxide. It's available as a kit with polishing pads. A long, slow process. If it's windshield wiper marks, they will leave a slight depression in the glass. It can distort the view. It's better than nothing, but not a cure-all.
@@throckmorton8477 Correct. The GM shop manual actually stated back then that it was the preferred method.
I bought a 1971 Karmin Ghia in the early 80’s. It was a lot of fun to drive, I called it my “poor man’s Porsche”.
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Great research. Thanks again.
Gotta ask while I am thinking, is the concourse Delagaunce related to the Chrysler show cars with the Delagaunce name? Thumbs up, great video
I'm a MOPAR guy, I knew there was a reason I liked these!😅
The Karmann Ghia floor pan is wider at the front than the Beetle. It has better foot room space.
Didnt the later ones come with the semi-automatic transmission? I seem to remember a script on the back labeling some of these cars as being equipped with them.
They did. In 1968, the semi automatic was available. It was quite an interesting design. In basic terms, it had a conventional gearbox...3 speed rather than a 4 speed that every non automatic VW had..., But it had a torque converter and a clutch! The torque converter allowed idling in gear like a normal automatic and the clutch allowed gear changes. The strange part of that is, there was no clutch pedal! There was a micro switch on the gear shifter, so when you touched the gear shift lever, it would electrically engage the clutch for gear changes! Really bizarre. If you inadvertantly rested your hand on the shifter while driving, it would kick out the clutch and the engine would just Rev til you took your hand off! First gear was just for pulling a steep hill and such from a dead stop. You could run around town leaving it in second gear and you would have to shift from second to third once you were underway for freeway driving. Once you got used to it, it was pretty cool...kinda like the best of both worlds.
The script read Automatic Stick Shift. Vacuum operated clutch. I drove a 69 Beetle with the 4speed A.S.S. Great invention.
@@dannyschoolcraft5984 they were actually a 3 speed, but yeah, it was cool, for sure
1200cc 40Hp, VW used a 36HP 1200 up until 1961[?]. 40 HP can be identified by the bolt on generator support. 36HP had the generator support as part of the block casting. That's all I got, 1973 was a long time ago...lol
I have a 1971 Karmann Ghia coupe it is my Daily Driver…. I had my first one in 1972…! It was a convertible 1965 ….
Whenever I read anything about Karmann Ghia’s they always say the production run was between ( 1955 only Europe )
Ship to the US ( 1956 to 1974 ) I have never seen or heard of a 1975 Karmann Ghia…???
I'm pretty sure 74 was the last year. 75 started all the emissions stuff and a think the low production numbers compared to beetle and the new rabbit and it's cousins made the Ghia not worth the effort to update. They had bigger fish to fry. I don't know for a fact that is why the Ghia was dropped for '75, but it seems logical.
He misspoke on that, 1974 was the last year for the Karmann Ghia. It was replaced by the Scirocco for the 1975 model year in the US. It was introduced in Europe in 1974.
@@googleusergp The John Gunnel book "Air Cooled VW HIstory" says Karmann Ghias were built in Brazil into 1975. I thought about ignoring these non-U.S.-spec cars but figured an international viewer might call me to task...so I included the Brazilian run. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante Yes, but since the vehicle is in the US, that's what counts (I'm not discounting international viewers), because export markets are unique. They sometimes have engines that can't be sold in the US anymore due to emissions and fuel regulations, etc.
@@googleusergpI imagine the Brazilian Ghias and Bugs were held to the same import laws as the German built vehicles
Get better soon Steve we miss you out here
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My grandma had beetles, taught me to drive in the 63 when I was 10 or 11. She always wanted a kg.
Great video, brother.
Mr. B. Here ! Happy 4th to all ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸☕️☕️🍩. This vehicle was was a good looking vehicle! To bad to many rules of today it can not be rebooted.
Mr B at one time VW talked about bringing the Ghia back. This was around 1990. It would have competed with the Mazda Miata.
I was working in the automotive industry at that time. A trade publication Automotive Insider, had a picture of what the new Ghia might look like. I cut that picture out and kept on my fridge for years
Again good job Steve thanks 👍
Got a rusted out 67 roller. No motor thought about chain drive street bike motor. In the back got 1200 bandit motor sitting in the corner.
That Ghia in magazine marroonish...... front end looks similiar to the recent Chrysler 300.
Other looks Like a Studibaker hawk😊
I see some of that Chrysler Ghia De Elegance in the original Olds Toronados, in the sides of the greenhouse area.
oh wow, Bad Kharman!
Cool stuff Steve but i have to say those heater controls started in 65 and it has a ball joint front end that started in 66 replacing the king pin style suspension... also those wheels are 66 soooo im saying its a 66.. thanks for sharing 😎 🇺🇸✌️
That’s what I say as well. It’s six volt with ball joint front end. Heater controls dual Five lug wheels and. Steve forgot to mention the single master cylinder.
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So, basically this is a Karmen built beetle chassis kit car.
Man I used to see so many of those in the 70s! My neighbor had two of them! One was in fair condition and the other one was rotting away! Kinda sad! It was definitely one beautiful styled car! He also had a few beetles!
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Wow, that one's actually rustier than the one my buddy owned...
Always liked these little cars
Bolt pattern looks a lot like the "wide 5" bolt pattern seen on Modifieds, and some division of stock cars that race at Seekonk, Stafford and Thompson.
The left side were Left hand thread. Not used for racing.
@@dannyschoolcraft5984 I was just referring to the rim design, not thread specifications.
I'm with you. Many of the Modified stock cars were based on 1936-1938 Fords - which had those odd HUGE bolt circles and wheels with huge center openings. Not sure why Ford only went three model years with this configuration. I know 1939 brought Lockheed hydraulic brakes and the tighter 5-lug hubs. Maybe the Lockheed drums needed the smaller stud circle? Maybe the earlier mechanical drums needed the spaced-out lugs? So many questions. And lets not forget that Pontiac's 1959 - 1969 8-lug wheels and aluminum drums used a similarly huge bolt circle. I may do a side-by-side comparison video on these three wheel types some day soon. There is one of each example at Bernardston Auto Wrecking. Thanks for watching and writing. -Steve Magnante
The D’Elegance seems to have influenced the current 300 in more ways than one!
Definitely agree on that! I commented about it aa well. Look at the lower RH of the screen at the 3:33 mark.
That car wasn't in an accident it was in a riot.
Today's video would have been perfect if Katie had made an appearance. You only get a 9/10.
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Oh yum look at the Ponton Mercedes in the back ground.... ❤😁
The Dual Ghia was another great Mopar too.
He did a video on that some time ago.
The main difference, other than engine placement, was size. The Karmann Ghia was TINY compared to the American alternative. I have seen one after a wreck, and they didn't help the occupants survive.
Look at an original MG. Talk about tiny.
Buddy of mine owned a '61. It rusted badly due to Detroit winter salt laden roads. Drove to San Diego when stationed in the Navy in '67 & was constantly stopped by the locals wondering what happened to the Ghia. He said some thought it was cool & wanted to buy it. Fun car though. Too bad it literally disintegrated.
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I remember a teacher at my junior high had a white one. She really thought she was all that and a bag of chips buzzing around in it.
She wasn't.
I would have asked her, "I don't see the flush lever on this toilet bowl, where is it located?"
Good stuff!
That’s a 66 or later being that it has ball joints which didn’t come out until after 65
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Chrysler could bring back that de elegance in 2024 and have a hit new car on today’s market. Even if it was a 4 banger/EV type thing. People are hungry for a car with styling !
Style is dead in the car industry.
@@my1vice dead..? Maybe just A-WOL. First car company that addresses this hunger for a stylish car, will surge to the forefront of sales.
@@bruceprentice6441 I agree. Maybe the 'Ugly Deep Sea Creature' or 'Angry Insect' style is starting to end. Seems a few cars and trucks are actually getting better looking. Or just less ugly! 🤔
When inside the car Driving it. It could be pretty scary. Being so small and all. The windshield was pretty close to your face. For get about air bags and safety features like todays cars. Just look at James deans accident. Similar to this car . Even though his was a Porsche. They say cars are cheaper now but they are designed to crumble to save lives .
A friend of mines brother was killed when he crashed one of those. He was going on a group trip with the school and had forgotten something after he got to town. They lived several miles out of town and he flew home. There was a downhill with some curves on the way back. He missed one and wadded it up. Needless to say it didn't offer much protection. I always thought these cars were kinda cool but after that not so much. R.I.P. Mathew.
this was a studie by chrysler they didnt run with it the same company made a studie for vw and they ran with it not long after this chrysler made the 1960 valiant which would you have picked?
Good Education. Fun! Thanks!!
Is that the Flintstone edition?
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Didn't the 4 lug come out in 68?
Yes, 1968 was the first year for the "standard" 4-lug arrangement
The Karmann Ghia actually ended production in May of 1974, not 1975. I own one of the very last Karmann Ghia’s built. Built in the last month of production.
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Gotta love that Volkswagen exhaust chirp
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4th 🇺🇸 🧨 .. 🤔 interesting! Window washer system , wonder how many folk miles from anything went to change a tire and the spare was flat too? 🤷♂️😳 ✌️🤙
They actually had a little regulator valve that wouldn't allow the tire pressure to drop beyond a certain level. VWs had a few clever ideas.
🤦♂️ didn’t think of that 😝 thanks 👍
@@burthenry7740What about a pressurized bottle with the schrader valve. Maybe put a bicycle tube in there. I used a finger dash mounted pump on a67 Renault 10.
I always dug the karmann ghia
Thank you Steve
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Like a golf and audi tt
"No rust here"....tooo funny Steve! Happ 4th everyone!
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"I can't add anymore." Classic! haha!
The Karmann Ghia had a different floor pan than the beetle I believe it was a little bit wider I know they used it on the German built military m181 Kubalwagon of the late 60s and 70s and also the VW Acapulco and Thing. Also I thought the Karmann Ghia usually had the little bit bigger engine than the beetle.?
Never heard the Exner./Ghia story before... WHICH is odd because I'm a big Exner fan. He was quite eccentric you know?
Always loved the look of these. Had a 69 Beetle, but never owned a Karman Ghia! (Would love one but not sure my 6.5ft body would fit. (Not a problem in the Beetles though!)
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Steering stabilizer not exclusive to the ghia
Looking at that car, and that engine in particular, I would bet @mustie1 would give it a shot at trying to get it going again... 😂
He'd get the engine going, no problem
A lot of folks say the karmann Ghia was inspired by the 53 Chrysler and tge 53 stude combined
I think the proportions didn't translate well to the the VW chassis - the front is too short and the rear is too long. Still a classy bit of kit.
that ghia in the book has the grill of the 05-10 300
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Several levers control "eco" mode.
I love those cars.never knew about the washer fluid system.that's crazy. Simple.not very reliabble.pinhole leak somewhere or forget to pressurize it before you drive and you are out of luck .better off with the bulb on the floor you step on I think.
I believe that this method of driving the washer jets was used on the Beetle as well. I suppose that a side benefit is that the driver would be forced to check the tire pressure of the spare every few months.
Actually after many useses the spare tire was flat, because the tire is what pressurized the washer bottle by a hose connected to each schrader valve. I drove a 69 VW with the same setup. I also drove a 67 Renault 10, Made in France. It had a small pump stem on the dash that squirt fluid on the windshield. I was in my teens then. Today just turn a switch and automatically wash and wipers clean the glass.
The spare tire to the washer tank set-up had a regulator/check valve which would stop the flow of air before the tire went flat. Somewhere around 24-28 psi. A clever set-up! But the valves can and did fail. We would air the spare up to about 40 psi in the winter! 😁
I would have kept a small hand pump in the luggage compartment. It wouldn't have taken much to "top it off".
@@googleusergp Yup! Worked at a tire shop when I was in high school. Lots of people (not just VW owners) carried a hand powered tire pump in their trunks. No plug-in 12 volt compressors back then! Although one VW customer had two spare tires he'd swap out for the washer system!
The "Beatle's Bulbous Body"...lol