Hasbro IS NOT Out To Get YOU!

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  • @KwakyWacky
    @KwakyWacky 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    The design team on hasbro has stated that they listen to community feedback. To say every rerelease or improved retool is purely a preplanned move to make people double dip is just silly. Not to say hasbro doesn't do that, cause they do, but sometimes the team just wants to fix a problem. That's why we got half the 86 line.

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@KwakyWacky this. This is what I'm trying to get across. Obviously everything has to have at least 1 other thing planned incase they want to use the mold again. But some stuff is added literally to HELP FANS GET IT or fix a horrible issue

    • @DevasiaMentalityGaming
      @DevasiaMentalityGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bots_Obsession The problem is regardless of reason the result is the same. Re-done figures that basically invalidate the problematic ones that came before them. Whether by intent or not the effect is fans and collectors who want the best versions of given characters either have to keep re-buying the remakes as they come along or twiddle their thumbs and wait out the genuine best version which may either never come or ends up being a half-hearted re-pack of a mediocre voyager stuffed up with a silly outfit and a big purple chair to bloat the price point. It may not be a conspiracy, but it still stings.

    • @meolammerz6771
      @meolammerz6771 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I dont necessarily agree with what you said when you said that the fans "have to keep buying" the remakes and such. I think its pretty well known that the main G1 cast will be tweaked, altered, and repacked again and again. Not everyone started collecting at the same time so some people rely on those refresh sets to start their journey in our collecting community. You have to sell and few bees before you can get (i forgot the rest of the og quote) a Deathsuarus.
      I think something that a lot of people dont consider when being frustrated about updated figures being released is that Hasbro has changed a lot when it comes to toy design and the materials that they use. If you compare an original transformers figure from the very beginning to one now, theyre almost nothing alike. Thats exciting and amazing! Without constantly trying to fix problems and improve their figures, we wouldn't get the amazingly detailed and posable stuff that we have now. Sorry this is long, i just wanted to share a bit of the positive side to updated toys ​@DevasiaMentalityGaming

    • @LGigaIce
      @LGigaIce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DevasiaMentalityGaming You don't HAVE to get the new versions. Heck, you didn't have to get the earlier versions.
      This is nothing new. After the first movie line in 2007 was a huge success Hasbro decided to put some of that extra income into issuing re-issues of the figures with premium paint jobs. Fans complained back then too.
      But no one is forcing you to buy anything. You can pick and choose what you want, and these days its even easier with leak lists that are all but confirmed to be accurate.
      As an example, I bought TFOne Sentinel Prime knowing full well there's going to be a bigger and more complex version of him coming out in Studio Series next year. I know this and I still bought the TFOne figure because I wanted to get my hands on the character.
      So I have no room to complain when I do double dip and buy the SS version next year.
      And I won't, because I'm not an entitled manchild.

    • @DevasiaMentalityGaming
      @DevasiaMentalityGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@meolammerz6771 I think it's pretty disingenuous to think that firstly there aren't fans who explicitly do this, and secondly that it isn't their criticisms that are a part of the driving force behind this practice in the first place. Sure new fans get to benefit from the advances and figure remakes, but they are merely a calculated bonus. Yes we are getting better figures out of it, but it's still a raw deal if you happen to have bought the ones that came before that you weren't happy with, and it's especially egregious when you find the newer "better" ones occupying shelves at the same time the previous iterations are still warming pegs... I recall seeing in one of those interviews there's no time limit on remaking characters, but when Earthrise, Kingdom, and SS86 Arcee are all on the same shelf of the same aisle at the same time it's clear things have gotten screwy.

  • @LGigaIce
    @LGigaIce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    TJ Omega has been around long enough that "Japan gets cool exclusives" shouldn't be new to him

    • @vonclaren1
      @vonclaren1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Poor omega has succumb to the woke mind virus

  • @rolandodr98
    @rolandodr98 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    If you are talking about the same video, I'm thinking about. One of the points that bugged me was "let something be rare because I want bragging rights"
    Have they SEEN what happens when a figure "gets rare?" Studio Series 14 Ironhide and 32 Optimus Prime went for hundreds of dollars on the second hand market. Getting the 2007 Autobot 5 pack meant you got 3 "free" figures because the other 2 were so sought after. That's how bad it gets.
    Package Refreshes and multipacks are a good thing because the worst that happens is you have to sell stuff that you don't want anymore.

    • @marek1shtar538
      @marek1shtar538 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Oh My God I heard that part and winced. Im tired of shit being rare and hard to find because of that BS. I just want cool figures to go with my other cool figures and have fun collecting without worrying about the pricing being outrageous

    • @zacharyowenmartin8247
      @zacharyowenmartin8247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean I'd say paying for a near identical figure and all in all spending more for the same figure everyone else got at a better value offer when they reissue it with objectively better upgrades is kind of the worst part.
      Not mad everyone gets one but why do I get saddled to sell a figure nobody will want because a better reissue is coming out leaving me with a bin copy that at one time was at least something you could trade to someone if you hated a mold.
      Nobody wants half of the figures I upgraded in my collection because they are 2 year old siege toys that are inferior decos now. The number of same character repaints and rereleases during the siege and legacy Era is crazy coming from someone who got back into the space in 2020.

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@rolandodr98 totally agree. It really sucks when the majority can't get a figure and hearing everyone talk about how good it is. If a toy is good, or a desirable character, everyone should have access to it

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, I don't mind this but it really should be the likes of Gen Selects.
      Like it should be rare, but it should be rare because three weirdos really want THIS particular version.

  • @mikeyfourbarrel8473
    @mikeyfourbarrel8473 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like your videos and I have no problem with your opinion, but I left this video feeling like you may not have debunked anything except the strawman argument that some believe that Hasbro is “out to get us.” I didn’t hear TJ say that. The idea that we should be held responsible for following leak lists proves TJ‘s point. Hasbro is using a tactic and it’s not necessary good or evil, but it’s a thing and it’s getting old. I agree that the upgraded Takara exclusives should be tossed from this discussion but planning obsolescence into the toys is absolutely a smart business move and it’s also absolutely something that people are allowed to be pissed off about. Maybe some better examples can be pulled from Warden’s prior time as the lead. Do you remember Titans Return Sentinel Prime? Titans Return Voyager class Megatron and prime? They knew damn well that these toys were designed to be specific characters and the cheesy “pretool” was released first.

  • @dumbjakeworld
    @dumbjakeworld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I disagree with some of your points, but overall I'm on the same page, the conspiracy theories people are perpetuating are a little dramatic to say the least.

  • @YeetKing12222
    @YeetKing12222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    For the package refresh stuff I’m happy for it since I started collecting during summer of legacy evolution and I remember seeing both thundertron’s on the list so I just waited for the multi pack to come out which it did so now I just gotta go get it

    • @TheCaptainKuhn
      @TheCaptainKuhn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As somebody who got back into (and got semi serious about) collecting figures in 2020/2021, I'm happy for package refreshing for figures I couldn't get the first time around or being able to skip the second release

    • @YeetKing12222
      @YeetKing12222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheCaptainKuhn same

  • @happybuttersblast8334
    @happybuttersblast8334 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Warden is the guy on the right. He's a friendly cool dude, actually all the transformers and GI Joe peeps are good people

  • @treebotreviews
    @treebotreviews 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m on your team on this 1000%. (That might be because we’re good friends and we share a lot of opinions but I digress) I don’t know why certain fans and creators have problems with Takara repainting when that’s been a thing for years. Yeah the brand unification but still, we’ve been getting back to it since premium finish started Hasbro only stocks these repaints on pulse and nowhere else’s so idk why there’s a problem with it. If you don’t wanna buy it don’t buy it. There’s no foresight with these repaints. Repaints are designed for 2 reasons. 1, money, and 2. To give people another opportunity to buy a figure that was scalped or short packed.

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@treebotreviews preach

    • @LGigaIce
      @LGigaIce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@treebotreviews well said

  • @MrsDizazter
    @MrsDizazter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Im gonna have to disagree on the "we knew about this" point you made about the Thundertron 3-Pack
    Not everyone follows leakers or people who cover leaks, and thus there's no guarantee that "we" the fandom, as a collective, would be aware of it

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MrsDizazter if you're a collector in collector spaces, hearing about, or seeing the leak listings is bound to happen.

    • @Destro517
      @Destro517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Bots_Obsession seeing the list and actually reading the list is different

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Destro517 then that is on you. Again, if you are a COLLECTOR in a COLLECTOR SPACE with this information and you disregard information then complain because you didn't get the version you really wanted, that is on you

    • @Destro517
      @Destro517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @Bots_Obsession I guess wanting to actually wait for official announcements is just forbidden

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Destro517 if you choose to be uninformed, thats your choice

  • @giovonniiclayton
    @giovonniiclayton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hasbro as a company does a lot of poor decision making with this franchise currently especially with studio series not saying hasbro is completely horrible but we have to hold them accountable for this stuff their making money off us not the other way around, and on the topic of redoing figures why haven’t they redone any bayverse transformers or reboot transformers it’s literally just g1 getting the special treatment

  • @DJLuckeyLu
    @DJLuckeyLu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They're out to get our money, that's for sure lol

    • @LGigaIce
      @LGigaIce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean it's a business....

  • @MahXyme
    @MahXyme 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I definitly agree that the allegations that Warden only wants G1 characters it nuts, they miss that he was there during kingdom & legacy, studio series about the barverse was under him, which is funny because when he was away on PR, SS86 became massive, replacing the remaing bayverse that fans wants almost entirely, to the point they complain non stop about that too, but they will never acknowledge that & prefer to put their wrong allegations on Warden

  • @wavewingman5993
    @wavewingman5993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Personally, I'm just tired of seeing TH-cam titles like "Hasbro has BETRAYED US! This is UNACCEPTABLE! Blood shall rain!"
    Like Jesus guys, chill a little. I get that we're passionate, but it truly is not worth getting worked up over. Transformers is easily one of the most dramatic fanbases I've ever seen.

  • @thomasmorgan9768
    @thomasmorgan9768 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    So I do have to disagree with something here. I don't think collectors have a duty to 'get the version you want'- as many people in this fandom will tell you, if you haven't bought a figure within 3 months of the release date, it's on you if you aren't able to get it later. Hasbro's distribution is still absolute ass, after all- I literally never even saw the Velocitron collection.

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thomasmorgan9768 i disagree simply because there's many outlets for TFs these days, even the exclusives. While I acknowledge some regions have a harder time, I am American and here its fairly easy to get any version of any figure.
      Im sure if I was in parts of Europe or Oceania, my opinion on that would change tho

    • @Destro517
      @Destro517 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Easy to get sure but goodluck getting most of these figures at retail or close to it ​@Bots_Obsession

    • @vonclaren1
      @vonclaren1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you really want any release you can always find it online.
      Lack of patience is what costs people money. Just wait and the right figure will come along for the right price

  • @RodimusPrime1982
    @RodimusPrime1982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm not collecting anything from the Unicron trilogy, or TF Prime etc, yes I saw the shows, I just don't need figures of those series. I'm only sticking with G1/G1 Japanese, Beast Wars/BW Japanese, and Car Robots 2000 aka RiD 2001. Also the G.I. Joe x Transformers are an absolute yes to me as G.I. Joe was also part of my childhood. Yes also I bought the Autobots United 5 pack cause for Hound and the animation colors, my Earthrise Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker will go to one of my nephews who I got into Transformers

  • @LGigaIce
    @LGigaIce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Someone below mentioned that he and other collectors will always have to keep buying updates and... no? No we won't?
    ER Optimus came along and was everything I'd ever wanted in an Optimus. And I'm still happy with him. So much so that I'm passing on Commander Class SS '86 Optimus even though that looks impressive. It's nice but... I have a version I'm happy with. Why spend more on an "upgrade" I don't need?
    If I'm just running off G1 characters who are my faves... Optimus, Starscream, Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, Soundwave... between ER and the Netflix line, I got pretty good versions of all of them. I'm already passing on SS '86 Optimus and Bumblebee. I'll probably pass if the others in that list get updated, because I'm happy with the versions I have.
    Hell, I know people who didn't even get the Netflix and ER versions because they were happy with stuff from the Classics '06 line!
    You- as in collectors- don't have to buy every new toy for a character, and are under no obligation to. You buy what you want, and you emphasize what figures you have that YOU like and are content with. Neither Hasbro, TakaraTomy, or anyone else is forcing you to purchase updates, package refreshes, or character redesigns if you don't want them or can't afford them.
    Personal agency and responsibility, people.

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LGigaIce there was another comment that said "reading and seeing the Leak list is 2 different things" and, again, its on you as a collector to make sure you get what you want

    • @LGigaIce
      @LGigaIce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bots_Obsession exactly. These things are pretty accurate these days and every major news site has them. Go check out what's coming down the pipeline and make your decisions based on that!

  • @doorkum
    @doorkum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who doesnt really follows transformers/hasbro toys. I just think hasbro like most corporation it's primary money driven rather than fan driven.
    A lot people who dont complain prefer G1 and thats where the money is. I think it is like pokemon gen1 will always where the money is.

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@doorkum money is always a factor. Hasbro has stated that when it does come to character choice and reissues that they do listen to fans rho

  • @astro_9707
    @astro_9707 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i mean they're out to get my wallet with how many god damn banger optimuses they make

  • @timmydodson1978
    @timmydodson1978 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude you sound like your on the hasbro pay roll

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@timmydodson1978 if I was, I wouldn't need the patreon

  • @bumbleprime7713
    @bumbleprime7713 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TJOmega is a great guy and great channel but yeah parts of that video are BS. Kingdom and 86 blaster for example, were YEARS apart, no way Hasbro planned that.
    At the same time though, I think it's a bit stupid to never get a figure just because a better version *might* release in like, a few years. I would rather just get a new version a few years later than have to wait a few years just to get my hands on it.

  • @EnerJon90
    @EnerJon90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ppl are way to bored

  • @JPolar2681
    @JPolar2681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People who are constantly complaining about this type of stuff suffer from three major problems; entitlement, FOMO, and a small wallet. If they got any one of those sorted it will take care of the other two but they will keep placing the blame on everything else but that.

  • @TMMAAS
    @TMMAAS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So there was some discoloring in the five pack? This is some news

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TMMAAS huh? Which ones?

  • @GaaraOfBenton10
    @GaaraOfBenton10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    thats your face?

    • @KwakyWacky
      @KwakyWacky 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Na that's just Laserfire's pretender shell

    • @Bots_Obsession
      @Bots_Obsession  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@KwakyWacky BRO GENIUS. introducing myself as Laserfire Pretender Armor moving forward

  • @AsherV20
    @AsherV20 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having been part of the fandom for... Uhhhh... 1999? Oh God... Folks have been swearing up and down Hasbro actively hates the fans and works against us and as people cycle in and out, those sentiments will persist because unfortunately it's just the nature of online discourse.
    As for Thundertron. I liked the regular release of Thundertron more than the multipack. But I also wanted Nightstrike. Plan was to get the multipack and see if I could trade Hookhand Thundertron from the pack for somebody's regular version.
    But then a couple weeks ago, Amazon dropped the price on wave 1 Thundertron to 20 bucks and change and I caved because I'm weak. So, I played myself there.

  • @ZukoPrince
    @ZukoPrince 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TJOmega getting heat? Interesting

  • @UserAndSale
    @UserAndSale 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh.. i thought i was special dang

  • @Vampyr787
    @Vampyr787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Better version thing is subjective. I prefer Lio Convoy in Legacy version, anime look for him doesn't work for me in a toy form. Also if Hasbro would release that design first with all the paint and sold it at Leader class(because they don't put that much paint on Voyagers, so they would had to bump him) people would complain that he is too expensive.

  • @dergrat
    @dergrat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TJ really sounds like an entitled manchild in his video

  • @retrojoe8290
    @retrojoe8290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ummm?, 1st thing is.. Hasbro/paramount get rid of Lorenzo di Dipsh*t!. Being a fan Gi Joe it just boggles my mind this guy is even listened to. He is tanking both Transformers and Gi Joe and you have to see this. He is most likely a big reason paramount is gasping for air. It just saddens me to see my childhood ripped up and vomited in my face.
    Yo Freaking Joe!

  • @mateodevin
    @mateodevin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah they are, nice try fed.

  • @Daltinian95
    @Daltinian95 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The biggest problem I have with for example Studio series blaster is the fact that it's just a direct repaint. Didn't change any of the molding to make him look more sure accurate even though he was pretty close. Anyways, they could have still gotten that extra mile. Also, why give him the serious expression when the tooling for a more joyful face was present with twincast?
    I agree with you. Like 99%, but there's just a few things that frustrate me about some of the decisions that the brand team has made. Made but who knows. We could end up getting another Studio series 86 blaster that is a completely new mold so who knows

  • @teaandtoys
    @teaandtoys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    G1 is Transformers