Hahahaha ikr 😂 but it was good for Arthur to finally takee it off of his chest, being able to talk about it despite the asshole who's listening not caring 😂
Why am I so obsessed with such a simple story? These characters feel so real to me…even playing dominos on down time…I find out things I at one point felt like wasn’t meant to know yet…sometimes I don’t even want to continue the story…I just sit down just to spend time with people just to see how are they feeling that day…
Video accurate - Arthur cut off spilling his guts at 1:55 so a guy can go flower picking. "Oh your son and wife died? Shut up I have weeds to collect for you"
Arthur and John were really brothers from another mother, Dutch saved both of them young, they both learned how to read and write together, both learned how to shoot together (easily proven due to both of them having dead-eye) But still so different.
Love is shown through actions. Not words. This is well illustrated between Arthur and John, even though they are fictional characters, but the human dynamics between them is well-written. Yes, there was animosity between the two for a while, like "brothers" sometimes have, but in what you might call "true brotherly fashion" when the chips were down, they were there for each other. Dutch on the other hand, put on a good pretense of caring, and at times had to back it up with action so as to ensure the loyalty of his followers, but when it really came down to it, he was controlling and craved unquestioning loyalty, and that's why he left both John and Arthur to die because they were no longer acting like "Yes" men, thereby showing by his actions that he never truly cared about their well-being, but rather viewed them as a means to an end, because if he truly cared, they could've rightly questioned him, yet he still would've come through for them in their time of need. Actually, there's some evidence of that in Chapter 2, during the mission to rescue both Sean and Micah. Dutch is obviously well-known and sought out by the law, but instead of going after Sean and Micah himself with perhaps some back up from maybe Arthur and John, he instead sends others in his stead, that way they're the ones whose neck is on the line, and not his, therefore I would say Dutch acted the part of a coward, because if Dutch really viewed his gang as "family" he would put himself at risk for them, like any "father" would when the safety of his family is threatened, when a man's family is threatened there is nothing a truly loving father will not do to protect them, yet Dutch doesn't do this. He shows that his "love" has conditions. There's an old saying: "You can pretend to care, but you can't pretend to show up."
Essentially every single person John met underestimated his heart and intelligence.. Arthur was the only person that saw him eye to eye. John's unwillingness to commit to the gang was actually in his best interest as well. Dutch's gang put John on a road of mistreatment, gets killed in the end for staying affiliated. His body was seeking safety while his head was seeking family. He had no choice than to force himself to be loyal to everything that was mistreating him.
I would hole rd3 is basically how the gang formed I would love to see Mac Davey and Jenny, they way the gang talks about them they sound like wonderful people…..if you look past that Mac and davey were killers lol
I personally believe that the reason Arthur has so much disdain for John at the beginning of RDR2 is the fact that John is reluctant and at times straight up refuses to bear the responsibility of being a father to Jack and husband to Abigail. Arthur has probably reflected on the “what ifs” when it came to his late family. He was robbed of his chance to be that exact thing John currently has a chance to be, and is probably mad at him for not stepping up and taking it all for granted. Of course Arthur isn’t the type of man to be straightforward with his feelings on the matter, but that won’t change him into trying to steer John to come to the same conclusion Arthur had earlier on in his life. He is straightforward about telling John what to do with his family during the end of the main game, just not explicit about the why he wants John to do it. Because Arthur lost his chance; John still has one.
I disaggree.In the hunting mission with hosea,he says "Running off on the boy is one thing but we have a code" or something similar.Hes more angry by the fact he ran off on THEM specifically. When he is complaining about abigail,you have the option to greet him which arthur will ask "things aint going well with abigail?" And john will tell him to stay out of it which he'll say "gladly".He clearly doesn't care all that much.Also,alot of arthurs critics of johns fatherhood is one sided and kinda hypocritical.He tells him not to be two people at once but he did it with Eliza and Issac and continues to do it with mary.
this was fantastic I saw a comment a while back talking about how Arthur resented john for walking away from his partner and child, when he had the chance to have a family while Arthur had lost his. But Arthurs entire perspective of John changed in Ch 4 and I think thats part of the reason he was so insistent on making sure they made it out in the end.
16:45 John finally making things right with Abigail and having a heartfelt conversation. Arthur: 👁👃👁 The Gang (joyously singing in the background): He RUMBLEd me, TuMBled me, SCRewed me to the WAAALLLL!!! HE F*cKEd me BlaCK and BluE and... Abigail: You mean that? We can be like a normal family?
I feel like it’s pretty understandable for Arthur to hold some resentment towards John for abandoning his son for a year when his own son died. He probably saw himself in their situation and that resulted in some of the strain.
If arthur had left the way john did, john would have probably have taken it way harder. Arthur was the oldest of the two and they were like brothers. Arthur would have been 23 when john joined the gang and john would have been 13 so john probably would have stuck to him like glue since dutch and hosea were basically both of their parents and having another young person thats being mentored and raised by the same two people john would have had a deep connection to him so if arthur took off john would have probably have taken harder than arthur took john taking off. John trying to compare his situation to arthurs situation with mary though it is similar its not exactly the same. abigail wants john to be with them whereas mary left arthur and took off to be with someone else and fair enough someone like her that doesnt approve of that lifestyle if you cant do that you cant do it and she couldnt do it and she basically left him to marry someone else arthur didnt want that to happen whereas john basically wants to get rid of abigail and jack at first.
I hope we get an RDR3 which is yet again a prequel, showing the formation of the gang up through the infamous Blackwater event we've only ever heard of in game after it happened. It could show that time John was gone. I also hope we get an RDR1 remaster.
@@Pyrex3421 if the next game is "redemption." I could see them leaning into new territory, literal and figurative. Red dead revengeance lol. Seriously tho, new gang, true western setting, maybe even have run ins and dealings with Dutch and Colm's gangs. Maybe even go back to the original revolver roots be bounty hunters. I could also see uncle being the protagonist of rdr3. Sky is the limit.
@fenixchief7 yeah but rdr2 is already a prequel of rdr1. Also I would like to see how Jack marston story continues after killing ross. Or landon ricketts in his younger years
what if arthurs son never died and they only put up the crosses to fake their deaths and get away from the lifestyle. RDR3 could be surrounded around Jack and Arthurs son somehow find each other while trying to solve their fathers past. Jack could make money from writting books about the vander lin gangs past and Him and Isiacs adventures
@@bigtasty2767Anyways, I assume that is his way of coping. When you are faced with so much hurt, you can’t help but try to make fun of the situation to lighten the burden.
The way I see it, Arthur at this point has come to terms with it. Grief is a funny thing and sometimes it hurts more than others. The laugh he does there seems to me more like he’s reflecting on the absurdity of it and how in the past he would have killed for nothing more than ten dollars as well. It’s showing his growth.
If you're invested enough in the story then it's worth checking out all the cutscenes on TH-cam. It's actually impressive seeing John's character growth by the time you reach RDR1.
Maybe I'm the only one, but I actually kind of felt more sympathetic towards John than Abigail. For one thing, John is kind of right in being unsure if Jack is actually his. Abigail was a prostitute before joining the gang, and she had sexual relations with several different men in the camp besides John. And it's not like they had paternity tests back then, they were literally just taking Abigail at her word that Jack was John's. Added onto that is the whole issue with fatherhood with John. His dad was killed when he was young and apparently wasn't much of a father when he was around; Dutch is...Dutch, and Hosea was actually probably the best example John would've had, so I can't blame John for not being sure he'd be a good father. 2 out of 3 father figures being garbage is not good odds. And...maybe I'm reaching here, but when I listen to conversations about this whole issue in the game, no one seems to really try and see things from John's perspective. They try to tell him that he needs to step up, he needs to accept Jack as his son, but I felt like that probably just made John feel pressured and trapped. It's entirely valid for him to feel like he's not ready, and trying to push someone into something they're not ready for doesn't always go well. Sink or swim does NOT always apply. Partway through the game, I was just wondering why Abigail was pushing so hard. The more she nagged, the more she scolded, the more she insisted, the more I felt like this just was not working. There are plenty of good men out there, Abigail, so stop pushing so hard or you're going to fricking lose him! Gosh, just get with Arthur if you want Jack to have a father so bad! And it was especially baffling to me after seeing what John and Abigail were like together in the first Red Dead Redemption. I was left wondering how the hell they even made it to 1911
I would love to see a video on who Sean would have sided with in the end. It seems like he would side with Arthur but his dialogue on the way to the house robbery made me think there was a complex relationship between Sean, Dutch, and Arthur
He probably would’ve stuck with Dutch assuming he didn’t run off before hand (I don’t think he would willingly but Arthur might’ve been able to convince him) because he relished the outlaw life and based on what he says and does and has done I’d consider him a “low honor” character. What really sells it for me is how he tells Arthur that everyone needs to back off Dutch and take a good look at themselves too. Sean doesn’t blame anything on Dutch and he seems to strongly believe that
@@josephstalin2606Now that you mention it, Sean would have probably ran off with Karen considering they were a thing. Maybe Karen would have lived a kinda happy life with Sean after the gang split.
@@Promise679 I doubt they’re as much a thing people make them out to be. They literally just had a one night stand, and Karen was already drinking heavily before and after his death, she only really goes off the rails after Hosea and Lenny die and the gang is forced to stay in Lakay, and that was long after Sean’s death
@@josephstalin2606 She talks about Sean quite often after his death and she sits on his lap as they sing in camp. Sean’s demise is not the main reason she spiraled but it was a reason. Arthur even calls Sean her boy after he is brought back from Blackwater.
I just realized that Rockstar reused and improved the dynamic between LA Noires Cole Phelps and Jack Kelso. 2 people that should be best friends that found eachother at a bad time. The entire backstory of Cole and Jack is how they are similiar but because of their positions and personality's, they never get along. And Rdr2 is of that, but has enough time for them to make up and leave behind differences and become brothers. Even during the funeral, Jack says that he was never coles enemy, despite not being his friend either. Showing that he wish they could have buried the hatchet before it was too late.
I would love for Red Dead 3 to return us to playing as John, either telling the story of how he left the gang, or how he returned to the gang after his time away. It would give us the chance to explore our favorite characters even more, and provide lots of room for new settings, missions, and story without being too constrained by the established stories of the first two games.
I personally wouldn’t have minded if John had more interactions with Arthur in Chapter 6 but a story like this should focus on multiple main characters and not give John the spotlight because he’s the sequel’s protagonist. The focus of the relationship between these two is somewhat similar to the one between Arthur and Micah. Ultimately though, Redemption 2’s main relationship is the one between Arthur and Dutch.
I think if GTA move was to be made, it should have its own story like every GTA has its own. GTA V would be better as a series than a movie, there would be more time to show each character and each story line
No Eliza was 19. Arthur was likely around the same age, maybe a bit older. Arthur and Mary got together pretty young. They eventually broke it off and Mary went off and got married and likely sometime after that he met Eliza. She could have possibly been a rebound. Arthur was likely in his early 20s at this time. He supported them for 10 years while Mary was married to someone else for 10 years. Arthur likely lost Eliza and Isaac not too long before the story starts, maybe a few years at most. The one thing that puts a damper on this theory is how do the younger girls in the gang know Mary? Unless it was just through hearsay.
Both of them are some of the most complex and well written characters in any media. Especially arthur. Breath taking character growth mixed with great personalities.
Arthur: talking to Rains Fall about the death of his son
Rains Fall: mm yes *ginseng*
I heard that in his voice 🤣
”Cool story bro but I found some ginseng lol”
I gallop everywhere when on horseback so that happened to me a few times
Just go slow he’ll let u speak!
lol he had to slip that “19” in there the second he said she was a kid so he wouldn’t think Arthur was a pedo
"My son was murdered, my lover, murdered, the pain was unimaginable"
"Whatever, Ginseng!"
Drugs bro
Hahahaha ikr 😂 but it was good for Arthur to finally takee it off of his chest, being able to talk about it despite the asshole who's listening not caring 😂
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@@fenixchief7what?
Why am I so obsessed with such a simple story? These characters feel so real to me…even playing dominos on down time…I find out things I at one point felt like wasn’t meant to know yet…sometimes I don’t even want to continue the story…I just sit down just to spend time with people just to see how are they feeling that day…
Because it's not a simple story, on the outside maybe, but on the inside there's so many stories
The duality of man
My Arthur stays away for a month at a time lol.
Simple?
Probably because you haven’t experienced anything worthwhile in life. This a video game we’re talking about.
Video accurate - Arthur cut off spilling his guts at 1:55 so a guy can go flower picking.
"Oh your son and wife died? Shut up I have weeds to collect for you"
Arthur, I know you dont smoke ginseng. I know this...but Im gonna get you high today.
😂
@@fenixchief7😂
"Wait, stop here"
Lmao true. Arthur is opening up like he never does and they just cut him off instead of RF to just stop and do his thing while Arthur talks
😂
@@theprestige5472😂
I busted out laughing at the when I first played lmao
Arther: *tells his heartbreaking past about his murdered son and lover*
Rain falls: i wanna pick some ginseng
Rains Fall interrupting Arthur pouring his heart out gets me everytime I play through that part 😂
They were both such good characters
Fr the best.
Great they are both playable characters and protagonists.
Arthur and John were really brothers from another mother, Dutch saved both of them young, they both learned how to read and write together, both learned how to shoot together (easily proven due to both of them having dead-eye)
But still so different.
Deadeye is only a game mechanic that shows how fast/skilled they are
@@yourgrandmasfavorite1199that's the point they learned to shoot tg meaning they should have the same skill
Love is shown through actions. Not words. This is well illustrated between Arthur and John, even though they are fictional characters, but the human dynamics between them is well-written. Yes, there was animosity between the two for a while, like "brothers" sometimes have, but in what you might call "true brotherly fashion" when the chips were down, they were there for each other.
Dutch on the other hand, put on a good pretense of caring, and at times had to back it up with action so as to ensure the loyalty of his followers, but when it really came down to it, he was controlling and craved unquestioning loyalty, and that's why he left both John and Arthur to die because they were no longer acting like "Yes" men, thereby showing by his actions that he never truly cared about their well-being, but rather viewed them as a means to an end, because if he truly cared, they could've rightly questioned him, yet he still would've come through for them in their time of need.
Actually, there's some evidence of that in Chapter 2, during the mission to rescue both Sean and Micah. Dutch is obviously well-known and sought out by the law, but instead of going after Sean and Micah himself with perhaps some back up from maybe Arthur and John, he instead sends others in his stead, that way they're the ones whose neck is on the line, and not his, therefore I would say Dutch acted the part of a coward, because if Dutch really viewed his gang as "family" he would put himself at risk for them, like any "father" would when the safety of his family is threatened, when a man's family is threatened there is nothing a truly loving father will not do to protect them, yet Dutch doesn't do this. He shows that his "love" has conditions.
There's an old saying: "You can pretend to care, but you can't pretend to show up."
"My Partner and son were brutally murdered for ten dol-"
"WAIT, stop here i wanna pick some Ginseng!"
Essentially every single person John met underestimated his heart and intelligence.. Arthur was the only person that saw him eye to eye.
John's unwillingness to commit to the gang was actually in his best interest as well. Dutch's gang put John on a road of mistreatment, gets killed in the end for staying affiliated. His body was seeking safety while his head was seeking family. He had no choice than to force himself to be loyal to everything that was mistreating him.
Would be epic if they made rdr3 when Arthur and john were young (and close) and the epilogue is when john ran away from the gang for a year
Yes, I'm still so pissed. we never got any dlcs for this game. I would've happily paid for a full catalog.
I would hole rd3 is basically how the gang formed I would love to see Mac Davey and Jenny, they way the gang talks about them they sound like wonderful people…..if you look past that Mac and davey were killers lol
POV you’re the best reddead TH-camr
Facts, fellow Dylan
Couldn’t agree more
Cynic is the best, love this channel
me when I repeat the things the game made explicitly clear if you played it, interspersed with literally the dialogue that tells you this
As long as it’s not just a “let’s watch the cut scene” fest. Fizhy is very good also. Been at it a long time.
I personally believe that the reason Arthur has so much disdain for John at the beginning of RDR2 is the fact that John is reluctant and at times straight up refuses to bear the responsibility of being a father to Jack and husband to Abigail. Arthur has probably reflected on the “what ifs” when it came to his late family. He was robbed of his chance to be that exact thing John currently has a chance to be, and is probably mad at him for not stepping up and taking it all for granted. Of course Arthur isn’t the type of man to be straightforward with his feelings on the matter, but that won’t change him into trying to steer John to come to the same conclusion Arthur had earlier on in his life. He is straightforward about telling John what to do with his family during the end of the main game, just not explicit about the why he wants John to do it. Because Arthur lost his chance; John still has one.
I disaggree.In the hunting mission with hosea,he says "Running off on the boy is one thing but we have a code" or something similar.Hes more angry by the fact he ran off on THEM specifically. When he is complaining about abigail,you have the option to greet him which arthur will ask "things aint going well with abigail?" And john will tell him to stay out of it which he'll say "gladly".He clearly doesn't care all that much.Also,alot of arthurs critics of johns fatherhood is one sided and kinda hypocritical.He tells him not to be two people at once but he did it with Eliza and Issac and continues to do it with mary.
this was fantastic
I saw a comment a while back talking about how Arthur resented john for walking away from his partner and child, when he had the chance to have a family while Arthur had lost his. But Arthurs entire perspective of John changed in Ch 4 and I think thats part of the reason he was so insistent on making sure they made it out in the end.
Love your videos and I love John and Arthur's story
Watching John grow into a better man and father was a great part of the story
10:04 Hosea is right, it suits John. And in fact, in RDR1 he behaved like a real man, meeting his fate.
16:45 John finally making things right with Abigail and having a heartfelt conversation.
Arthur: 👁👃👁
The Gang (joyously singing in the background): He RUMBLEd me, TuMBled me, SCRewed me to the WAAALLLL!!! HE F*cKEd me BlaCK and BluE and...
Abigail: You mean that? We can be like a normal family?
BABE WAKE UP CYNIC POSTED (i legit love ur content
Love your content, wish there were more like you
I feel like it’s pretty understandable for Arthur to hold some resentment towards John for abandoning his son for a year when his own son died. He probably saw himself in their situation and that resulted in some of the strain.
Arthur:😢😢 everyone in my family was murdered my wife son mother
Rians fall:SHUTUP GINSEG ACQUIRED
If arthur had left the way john did, john would have probably have taken it way harder. Arthur was the oldest of the two and they were like brothers. Arthur would have been 23 when john joined the gang and john would have been 13 so john probably would have stuck to him like glue since dutch and hosea were basically both of their parents and having another young person thats being mentored and raised by the same two people john would have had a deep connection to him so if arthur took off john would have probably have taken harder than arthur took john taking off. John trying to compare his situation to arthurs situation with mary though it is similar its not exactly the same. abigail wants john to be with them whereas mary left arthur and took off to be with someone else and fair enough someone like her that doesnt approve of that lifestyle if you cant do that you cant do it and she couldnt do it and she basically left him to marry someone else arthur didnt want that to happen whereas john basically wants to get rid of abigail and jack at first.
I hope we get an RDR3 which is yet again a prequel, showing the formation of the gang up through the infamous Blackwater event we've only ever heard of in game after it happened. It could show that time John was gone. I also hope we get an RDR1 remaster.
Rdr3 should be about landon rickets or jack marston. Redemption should be what main characters achieve
@@Pyrex3421Jack got his redemption in the first game
@@Pyrex3421 if the next game is "redemption." I could see them leaning into new territory, literal and figurative. Red dead revengeance lol.
Seriously tho, new gang, true western setting, maybe even have run ins and dealings with Dutch and Colm's gangs. Maybe even go back to the original revolver roots be bounty hunters.
I could also see uncle being the protagonist of rdr3. Sky is the limit.
@fenixchief7 yeah but rdr2 is already a prequel of rdr1. Also I would like to see how Jack marston story continues after killing ross. Or landon ricketts in his younger years
LANDON RICKITTS
what if arthurs son never died and they only put up the crosses to fake their deaths and get away from the lifestyle. RDR3 could be surrounded around Jack and Arthurs son somehow find each other while trying to solve their fathers past. Jack could make money from writting books about the vander lin gangs past and Him and Isiacs adventures
Make sense
What a shit ideia
I'm so glad the fans didn't make the games
1:35 how doesnt he get more pissed about it? It almost sounds like he laughs a little when he says "for 10 dollars"
Thats what years of reflecting does to uou it changes your view on things, arthur realized by bekng bad hd shouldnt expect fairytale like life
@@Mr.Capitalism beking bad?
@@Mr.Capitalismme no no understando ur engrishu
@@bigtasty2767Anyways, I assume that is his way of coping. When you are faced with so much hurt, you can’t help but try to make fun of the situation to lighten the burden.
The way I see it, Arthur at this point has come to terms with it. Grief is a funny thing and sometimes it hurts more than others. The laugh he does there seems to me more like he’s reflecting on the absurdity of it and how in the past he would have killed for nothing more than ten dollars as well. It’s showing his growth.
U got more understanding on story than i did thx for help me out understand more of the sory
Me realizing I’m not subscribed after months of watching every video multiple times 👽
you're my bruddah Orthur, said Johngle Milton
I've never played RD1 and am towards the end of 2...John saying none of it was real and didn't matter just cuts me to the core.
1 has an even better story. Its worth picking up
@@fenixchief7 My main concern with that is I can't see myself every buying a console ever again.
@@CalekoflightDamn, its really worth a playthrough but i get it if you're not really a console player anymore.
@@SolidSnake240 it's cool...seems like every 3 months they announce a leak of a potential RDR1 port.
If you're invested enough in the story then it's worth checking out all the cutscenes on TH-cam. It's actually impressive seeing John's character growth by the time you reach RDR1.
1:21 wait just let me get some gensing
Maybe I'm the only one, but I actually kind of felt more sympathetic towards John than Abigail. For one thing, John is kind of right in being unsure if Jack is actually his. Abigail was a prostitute before joining the gang, and she had sexual relations with several different men in the camp besides John. And it's not like they had paternity tests back then, they were literally just taking Abigail at her word that Jack was John's.
Added onto that is the whole issue with fatherhood with John. His dad was killed when he was young and apparently wasn't much of a father when he was around; Dutch is...Dutch, and Hosea was actually probably the best example John would've had, so I can't blame John for not being sure he'd be a good father. 2 out of 3 father figures being garbage is not good odds. And...maybe I'm reaching here, but when I listen to conversations about this whole issue in the game, no one seems to really try and see things from John's perspective. They try to tell him that he needs to step up, he needs to accept Jack as his son, but I felt like that probably just made John feel pressured and trapped. It's entirely valid for him to feel like he's not ready, and trying to push someone into something they're not ready for doesn't always go well. Sink or swim does NOT always apply.
Partway through the game, I was just wondering why Abigail was pushing so hard. The more she nagged, the more she scolded, the more she insisted, the more I felt like this just was not working. There are plenty of good men out there, Abigail, so stop pushing so hard or you're going to fricking lose him! Gosh, just get with Arthur if you want Jack to have a father so bad!
And it was especially baffling to me after seeing what John and Abigail were like together in the first Red Dead Redemption. I was left wondering how the hell they even made it to 1911
I would love to see a video on who Sean would have sided with in the end. It seems like he would side with Arthur but his dialogue on the way to the house robbery made me think there was a complex relationship between Sean, Dutch, and Arthur
He probably would’ve stuck with Dutch assuming he didn’t run off before hand (I don’t think he would willingly but Arthur might’ve been able to convince him) because he relished the outlaw life and based on what he says and does and has done I’d consider him a “low honor” character. What really sells it for me is how he tells Arthur that everyone needs to back off Dutch and take a good look at themselves too. Sean doesn’t blame anything on Dutch and he seems to strongly believe that
@@josephstalin2606Now that you mention it, Sean would have probably ran off with Karen considering they were a thing. Maybe Karen would have lived a kinda happy life with Sean after the gang split.
@@Promise679 I doubt they’re as much a thing people make them out to be. They literally just had a one night stand, and Karen was already drinking heavily before and after his death, she only really goes off the rails after Hosea and Lenny die and the gang is forced to stay in Lakay, and that was long after Sean’s death
@@josephstalin2606 She talks about Sean quite often after his death and she sits on his lap as they sing in camp. Sean’s demise is not the main reason she spiraled but it was a reason. Arthur even calls Sean her boy after he is brought back from Blackwater.
"Arthur Morgan...well hello, old friend "
I just realized that Rockstar reused and improved the dynamic between LA Noires Cole Phelps and Jack Kelso. 2 people that should be best friends that found eachother at a bad time. The entire backstory of Cole and Jack is how they are similiar but because of their positions and personality's, they never get along. And Rdr2 is of that, but has enough time for them to make up and leave behind differences and become brothers. Even during the funeral, Jack says that he was never coles enemy, despite not being his friend either. Showing that he wish they could have buried the hatchet before it was too late.
I would love for Red Dead 3 to return us to playing as John, either telling the story of how he left the gang, or how he returned to the gang after his time away. It would give us the chance to explore our favorite characters even more, and provide lots of room for new settings, missions, and story without being too constrained by the established stories of the first two games.
I personally wouldn’t have minded if John had more interactions with Arthur in Chapter 6 but a story like this should focus on multiple main characters and not give John the spotlight because he’s the sequel’s protagonist. The focus of the relationship between these two is somewhat similar to the one between Arthur and Micah. Ultimately though, Redemption 2’s main relationship is the one between Arthur and Dutch.
We all need a Arthur Morgan in our lives.
can we just pay miss grimshaw her respects for always being on go
I can’t stand Jack’s Li’l Lord Fauntleroy outfit.
Good reference.
It’s a good day when the GOAT posts
1:37 Imagine if it was Micah Bell and his father.
They may not have been blood but they were certainly brothers.
May not have always got along and seen eye to eye, but in a pinch they’d be there.
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I think if GTA move was to be made, it should have its own story like every GTA has its own.
GTA V would be better as a series than a movie, there would be more time to show each character and each story line
W video?
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What nobody wants to discuss is the pillow talk between Abigail and John that may have been influencing him after Chapter 2. Is all I'm saying.
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Most TH-cam video ever
Bro wrote this game😂😂
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Wait how was isaac 19 while arthur was 38 and died years ago when did they have the child when arthur was 12? When did he love marry what
Isaac's mother was 19
No Eliza was 19. Arthur was likely around the same age, maybe a bit older.
Arthur and Mary got together pretty young. They eventually broke it off and Mary went off and got married and likely sometime after that he met Eliza. She could have possibly been a rebound. Arthur was likely in his early 20s at this time. He supported them for 10 years while Mary was married to someone else for 10 years. Arthur likely lost Eliza and Isaac not too long before the story starts, maybe a few years at most. The one thing that puts a damper on this theory is how do the younger girls in the gang know Mary? Unless it was just through hearsay.
I think Arthur Morgan is too overrated. John is better 💯
Can you do one on beta Arthur
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yay im early
That's what she said
Johns nlt the most talkative person to though compared to arthur who talks ro much msybe
this video comfirms John is the rat
Both of them are some of the most complex and well written characters in any media. Especially arthur. Breath taking character growth mixed with great personalities.
Okay, I think the new best idea for red dead 3 is following an even younger John's time away from the gang
Big bucks kid big bucks🫰💸
Yes this us what Rockstar Games said it going to be