EMDR Therapy: Demonstration & Step-by-Step Walkthrough
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- In this captivating continuation of EMDR therapy (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing), delve into the transformative journey alongside Timothy Meyer, LCSW, a distinguished Psychotherapist and Assistant Director at the esteemed Lukin Center. This profound episode unfolds as a demonstration of the intricacies of EMDR, a meticulously substantiated therapeutic approach, on none other than Dr. Elissa Gross, a fellow Luminary within the Lukin Center fraternity.
Building upon the foundational insights shared in our preceding installment, Dr. Meyer thoughtfully expounds upon the multifaceted dimensions of EMDR, expounding not only on its core tenets but also elucidating its manifold advantages. The current presentation is meticulously calibrated to unravel the intricate tapestry of EMDR's procedural journey, enabling viewers to visually traverse each pivotal phase.
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Emdr really works. It has helped me heal from trauma that was affecting my daily life and how I always felt. I feel so much lighter and happier. Thank God.
Happy to hear! Dr. Lukin
I'm at the right place in my life. I'm here after my first therapy session. Beyond ready for true healing ❤
I work in a PRTF that really started using EMDR in the past year. It has been a miracle for a lot of the kids.
You mean thank science!
Really?
This worked for me. About 30 years of visualizing my sexual abuse at every waking moment to not at all.
Wow. Well done. I'm glad to hear that. I am seriously considering this therapy. Now, I feel confident that I will benefit from it.
🙏 ❤
I wish I had listened to everyone earlier!! I just had my first processing session....how amazing is this?! I was always skeptical of claims such as yours "how can that be possible"....and now that I am doing it I see that, yes, this is actually bringing me to the resolution of several traumas that happened so long ago.
I am so excited I don't even know what to do, and I didn't think that was possible.
Really??
@@maryjordansiebert915 I have a therapy session soon with this involved and I’m scared of it not working. I’m a little skeptical too but I think it’s more of the fear of it not working and my memory just not remembering those extra details. I hope it works.
I am a therapist (not trained in EMDR) and I’ve also personally been through EMDR. It felt awkward at first, because sometimes nothing came to mind and I felt like it “should.” Then, thoughts and images started coming up, images I didn’t think meant much when I thought about them before. These images were associated with thoughts/beliefs and feelings about my traumatic event that I couldn’t bear, and so I always focused on other images of the traumatic event when working with other therapists throughout the years. Just a few EMDR sessions felt like all of those years of therapy wrapped up into a short period. I also felt that I could subscribe to the process and the results more because the therapist wasn’t offering their own interpretation of what I brought up - just guiding me through the steps. The interpretations were my own. Side note: the process looks very simple here in the video (or in person), but what’s happening physiologically and unconsciously is much more involved - and it’s one of the most validated, evidence-based forms of therapy out there (and there are hundreds).
Thank you!
The only awkward feelings I had at first was in thinking it was hypnotism and I'd end up saying something that could be used against me in the future. But over time, I realized that this therapy deals with the emotional responses, not the details of what happened. The therapist will know not to push on issues you aren't comfortable talking about or judge you based on your life or any wrongdoings you've had in the past. They are here to help you.
it saved my life
Have you looked into juggling therapy?
EMDR using the hand buzzers worked for me. I was diagnosed with Agoraphobia at 18 and I couldn’t leave my house, drive, grocery shop, get my hair cut, etc. At 41 after starting EMDR I was given my life back. I can do everything now that I could not do. I still have some limitations such as flying or driving too far alone but I am able to do so much now alone and I have my life back 🙏🙏🙏
How do the buzzers work? Are they actually "buzzing" in your hands? I feel kind of ridiculous asking this!
I’m sorry I took so long to respond. They just vibrate in your hands there is no noise. I will forever be thankful to the person who helped me live my life again! I pray you are able to find someone who is truly exceptional at EMDR and that you find the right fit for you 🙏💗
@@charissawoodside3645as I understand you hold the buzzers and think about traumatic memories? Or did you think about going outside? Also, how many sessions did it take you?
@@freemang8189 In my case I had a lot of obsessive scary thoughts on top of my severe anxiety. The thoughts were random and were not rational thoughts rather they were thoughts that made no sense as they would never be real. For example I would think that someone I loved was a pedophile and that thought would cause me extreme anxiety from guilt that I would even be thinking it but I couldn’t get it out of my head. Rationalizing things to myself still didn’t make the crazy thought go away. Remember that I knew for an absolute fact that the person was not a pedophile. So these crazy obsessive thoughts were random and they hit me when I was feeling good and I had no warning. I started EMDR and I would do a 45 minute session starting with thinking about the thought, rating it 1-10 how much anxiety it caused me (Always 1000 at the beginning), and by the end of the session I was at a 0. If the thought ever crossed my mind and I felt even a twinge of anxiety I would go for a second session but that was extremely rare. I had many issues to work through but I was seeing my therapist for 6 years and I was finally able to do things that I couldn’t do before. I am not kidding when I say it saved my life. It can be uncomfortable but I put in the work and I had faith. God bless you 🙏
One of the main reasons the eye movements work, is due to our survival instincts. Lateral eye movements aren't available in certain nervous system modalities such as flight. To get away, focus of attention is straight forward. An encounter with an actual threat offers no space or time to stop and look around. When we perform this lateral eye movement, the autonomic brain (vagus nerve, limbic system, ect..) calms down. The prerequisite understanding here is, 90% of our behavior is learned and embedded into the tissues. The Psoas muscle, a major hip flexor for example, is responsible for these fight or flight reactions even before conscious thought. A sensory input response may trigger a traumatic event from the subconscious. We may bee safe, but the autonomic brain thinks it's happening again. By tripping the autonomic lizard brain it into believing we are in a safe environment, through lateral eye movements, we retrain the neural network to stop expecting "something must be wrong here". It should go without saying that these fight/flight/freeze/fawn responses are just in incidents which require them to be enacted for survival. It is only when we become unregulated that these stressors become a concern. Tigers and bears were a threat when we were cavemen. But now those tigers don't exist, yet we respond to modern day stress signals as if they were. This perpetuates violence and abuse - a discharge of unvalidated, incomplete sensory input related to threats.
Wow thank you so much this was a great explanation
Well explained 👏🏻
Thank you for that detailed explanation! I totally get it now.
During my times of strife, I would have vivid dreams and in these dreams, the images (only later through sitting down to think of these dreams) would I understand that they helped me to compute the information. The images would use totally unrelated images to bypass the horrors of those experiences and help my true self accept them as if my mind was helping me cope with my trauma knowing that I would accept them in a dream but not in reality. There was I time when I had constant night terrors and I can remember that dream to this day. I was walking through a giant cave, and in that cave there were pillars and those pillars reminded me later of the caves of Moria in the Tolkien books. the difference was the sand on the ground and the people walking single file. I and five others, Screamers would appear and suck people into the sand and at the end they would take me down as well. I told my grandfather on my dads side of the family "Deda" meaning dad in Cicillian I believe. I had great faith in him at that time about these dreams. He had a simple though strange answer to these nightmares that changed my life. He said, "Hmph, you should be able to control your dreams by now." After that moment I began to cope with my life through my dreams to the unwavering faith in my grandfather. I believe this relates to your concept through the ideal of another assistant kicking in the same response without even understanding what they were doing. Not only flipping the on switch but instead also kicking on a "turbo" button by being someone of great trust and affection. One could say reinforcing good behavior.
Hi Joey
Thanks for your great explanation. Can you please recommend any book on this topic? It would be highly appreciated. Regards
I've just started this after ptsd from accident, feels really odd at first but even after a few sessions I feel I can start to get my anxiety down, hope everyone gets where they need to be 👍
Happy to hear! Dr. Lukin
Glad your doing better my husband was ran over a year ago and it was like I was seeing my world change and I thought he was dead when I got over to him he was convulsion he has major PTSD and bad tbi it changed his life and mine If I can't get a ride anywhere now
I don't leave the house I should be dead or hurt with him but he shoved me back hard and I didn't know why until I seen him in the air.
Thank you to the woman who was the client in this scenario, I am learning about EMDR from the prospective of a client and it is helping me to see what to expect and not be worried about a sense of the unknown with this modality.
She isn’t a client she was acting as she was one. She does mdr too.
There’s a lot of therapies out there it all depends of the professional, the knowledge empathy he or she has. I’m a hypnotherapist I use hypnosis a a tool in my therapy and I’ve help so many just by relaxing the mind and taking people to this times where they experience the trauma, but here is the key, to know how to do it without stressing the client and removing the negative behaviors or beliefs for positive ones, is an art.
Is all about training the mind, the soul to change the physical body.
I have done a lot of therapy in my life. I have struggled with mental illness and then trauma from a young age (started the process when I was 8). I just had my first EMDR session. Yes, there are a lot of therapies out there, and it probably does depend on the person.....but the success rates for EMDR and now also Brainspotting are exceptional.
As a client, we did a lot of prep work because that makes me feel more comfortable. Now that I am actually doing it, all I can say is-wow! The experience is surreal. Never have I experienced this. I really encourage you to give this a try when you feel comfortable doing so.
@@maryjordansiebert915 Thanks for posting this! I'm going to try it too and your post helps me feel more comfortable moving forward.
@@jenne8180 I am so pleased that my experience can be helpful to someone. I have now been consistently working with this process now for the last three months.
I still have trouble wrapping my head around not being distressed over something that has distressed me for decades. Nothing is perfect and I am not saying that this is,but being ae to resolve something like this takes my breath away.
I encourage anyone to communicate your needs throughout...and trust yourself. 🙂
I would love to hear your thoughts after you give it a try! Take care, and good luck!
As a psychotherapist I can say that this is evidenced based, based on a plethora of research. In addition, one of my patients had a watch that tracked REM sleep. It registered him in REM sleep during our session. He was using the butterfly tap as well.
Why would a patient be so relaxed? Or what does it mean?
That is fascinating! It points pretty clearly to the connection between EMDR and REM sleep/dreaming/processing.
I went through similar childhood trauma. Watching this video was weird because in my mind I was answering his questions too and her answers were always the same as mine. This is why it’s so important for people who have trauma to find each other. Talk to each other. And truly realize the meaning of “you are not alone.” Because it’s so much more than that. I never met this woman yet I feel so connected to her. She shows me that I am normal. That I am not bad. That I am not what my brain tells me I am. Because I look at her and can see so clearly that she is sweet and kind and good yet she thinks she isn’t. And it helps me believe maybe the same is true of me. That even though all I see is bad, maybe I am also sweet and kind and good. To my trauma people out there... find each other! Connect! Talk and share and listen! It is the one of the most healing things you can do.
very well said. Dr. Lukin
Totally agree! I’ve been watching a lot of these types of videos on MH issues but I also read the comments and I agree with you that it does give you a sense of hope when you realise that you’re not the only person in the world going through this. I know this may sound a bit weird also (I promise u I’m not a troll lol) but I’d be open to connecting with u on a 121 basis if u were up for it? I’m in the UK & have been battling PTSD/GAD for over a decade
@@youtubeaddict5663 I am glad this has been helpful. Unfortunately we are only able to work with clients in New Jersey, USA, but you can go to emdria.org and find a provider in your area of UK. Warmly, Dr. Lukin
@@lukincenter my comment was for the OP 🙈
@@Jane_is_Tired are u on kik messenger?
I worked in a prison system as a mental health clinician. In my first year I was harassed by some of the correctional officers. One day they sent me up to long-term segregation/isolation to see a person and they said was suicidal. They had just taken away his television on the weekend of the Super Bowl. He was threatening to cut his own throat open. But nobody told me what they did. He ended up doing what he promised and I witnessed it. It affected me for almost a year until I sought EMDR therapy. I just recalled the whole incident without any dysregulation! It's been over 10 years! And I'm training soon to provide it.
Oh my goodness. Sending warmth and light.
God bless you and your resiliency. We need providers like you.
This is so inspiring. I’m so sorry for what you witnessed, but know that thanks to your strength, bravery, and kindness that so many people have healed and are going to heal, and that this world is better with people like you in it ♥️ 🕊
Try EFT. I cannot ever say enough how effective it was for my PTSD and the biggest part of the healing was the healer. She allowed me to say and describe my feelings and how they were blocking my throat and just accepted what I said, which I had found problematic with a few therapists before because they kept following these methods they had learned. So, one kept saying Let me challenge you on that. Challenge me on having a voice for the first time in my life and saying that I felt very hurt by a person I had believed was my friend. What's to challenge? Are we in Court?The other one did a similar thing no matter what I said. The EFT healer just allowed space for my voice to state my feelings as I truly felt them and that ball of barbed wire jammed in my throat never, ever returned. Some people maybe need to be challenged at some point and some of us just need to be allowed a voice. Don't rush anyone or assume there is only one way to heal or that all traumas are identical. That is the importance of active listening, to help us find out which is which in any given situation.
That would be incredibly traumatic. I hope you are doing OK, and blessings for your strength to, not only survive, but "thrive" in helping others!
There were distinct facial pattern changes with each step as more and more was released. At the completion the patient's eyes were brighter and more open. She showed less tension and more energy in her face. Her body movements were lighter and easier. I always love to watch a client's transformation when they release old images and belief patterns! It is truly miraculous!
At the beginning they said it was a fake scenario, and the 'patient' is another therapist. So that 'transformation' isn't really authentic.
How can I contact you?
@@hereticalfreespirit471 But that is what actually happens with real clients....and clinicians can be clients as well. Who knows, this may be something that she experienced herself going through this process.
She’s a good actress. It was completely believable
And you call yourself a doctor?
As someone applying for a masters program to become a psychotherapist, I’ve been researching modalities and EMDR is so intriguing to me. This video was so informative and it is so cool to watch this woman have old memories surface for reprocessing after simple bilateral eye movements. What a brave and selfless woman to share this vulnerable experience with us for our educational purposes. I appreciate her deeply.
@moon music taro, it was staged.
He said up front it’s a made up scenario
Oddly enough, staged or not, this is very much how my first session went. I thought it was weird that I felt better so quickly, and even second-guessed it a bit. If she was actually acting, she nailed it. ☮️
Check out Method of Levels based on Perceptual Control Theory
Phases one and two involve assessment and preparation. It is very important that before any bilateral stimulation starts, the therapist and client go over an assessment to fully understand what is happening and also implement resources and skills to ensure that we can take care of ourselves in and out of session while working through painful life events.
Dr. Luken, can this work in a telehealth situation?
@@kayazzara108 Yes, there has been adjustments to make EMDR available through virtual platforms. Warmly, Dr. Lukin
isn't this contra-indicated, or where is the data for chronic, severely mentally ill people who lack the essential "resources and skills" to care for themselves? For example, those with multiple psychiatric hospitalizations, those who suffer with severe thought or mood disorders (e.g., schizoaffective, schizophrenia, Bipolar) which often exist with comorbid chronic medical issues (chronic pain due to a variety of physical disabilities and/or aging) ?
@@lisamelisa7719 Yes, you are correct. It is not suggested for individuals who do not have the resources to cope with this type of treatment. Dr. Lukin
@@lisamelisa7719 Good clarification Lisa Melisa. You obviously care about vulnerable people. That means a lot.
It does work! I was in therapy for years and gained some good tools but I just couldn’t get past the ptsd part. Triggers would seep into my daily life and sometimes I wasn’t conscious of how often this happened. I have a sense of peace I never had before EMDR.
How long did you do this therapy for? And are the effects lasting? I am 43 years old and cannot calm the physiological triggers and intense fear of abandonment and sadness that remain from my cptsd. It has affected every aspect of my life for too long.
@@soniaesther0529 Hi Sonia! I’m 48 and understand how this can linger on for many years. It feels slow going in the beginning as the therapist has to create a full concept of your trauma and the links as trauma creates a web over time. The first month was her drawing this map and truly understanding my triggers. She helped to buffer with a good set of tools to use in critical times. Using the tools helped me gain confidence in my ability to find breaks for myself. A life saver was also meditation. When the actual EMDR sessions started in the 4th week, it was rough. I really confronted all of it. From the roots straight up..no hiding. I was a mess but used my tools and over the next few weeks after sessions I was spent but knew how to use the tools to recuperate. It was transformational. I continue to meditate regularly and use tools once in awhile as I view my trauma differently now.
@@Jolei33 Hi! I have a question about this as well. I’m looking into it but also wondering if emdr helps with physical and emotional symptoms of ptsd? I have cptsd and rarely think about my trauma now. Im going on 9 years of talk therapy but it’s no longer helping I’ve been at a standstill. But I do have chronic neck pain and back for my whole life due to trauma. So I was curious if you knew or had the same symptoms and if that helps this too since everything pain wise is linked with my cptsd.
EMDR is highly efficient against PTSD flashbacks. If you are reading this, you need to know that the flashbacks are not created by the higher parts of your brain. That is, it`s not created by " you" but comes from your subconsious mind in the form of image`s and emotions that are for the most part supressed. They come up in your mind and makes you " zoome out", like you are in a trance or a half dream like state. They also appear in nightmares that go on repetition again and again and again.
What they are doing in the video is working on these memories. One memory at the time. one EMDR session lasts about 45-60 minutes, and it might take two sessions to work on a single memory. After the session the memoire will no longer be " intrusive" you can still think of it, but it will no longer be " hyper realistic" and " hyper emotional". That is you can think of them in a more distant, calm, rational way.
After you have done working on a memory. The mind will start to bring up new memories that is supressed. Some are linked with other memories that go over time. If you have CPTSD ( Trauma from early childhood) then the traumatic memories from early childhood ( 1-8 years) are the ones that are critical to work on.
She is so brave to appear here and to do this therapy for this demonstration. I can feel the hardness and I relate so hard. I hope she is recovering well!
The guy mentioned at the beginning of the video that they were using a fake scenario just to demonstrate how emdr is done in practice.
She is the doctor (probably psychologist) that he introduced at the beginning.
It’s fake
Lmao it’s fake 🤣 💀
If it's fake, she's a great actress, she looks triggered
I like the demonstration of how emdr is actually done in practice. Helps people know what to expect and also helps those who want to try to self-administer. It seems that the bilateral stimulation is done to let subconscious thoughts and memories come through. It also seems that the session is steered a lot more by whatever comes to the client's mind than by the therapist. That was an interesting realization for me.
There's some awkwardness that comes with using a fake scenario, but I can understand it being hard to film a real session because the subject matter is sensitive. Some people in the comments didn't even realize it wasn't a real session, so maybe it's not a big deal lol.
One thing I wonder is, how the therapist knows when to ask the client 'What came up?' If they get something immediately, then it can be annoying for them to wait for the therapist to ask. But if they didn't get anything yet, it could be annoying to be interrupted. So it could be better to let the client tell you when something comes to them, or to say 'Eh, I got nothing' when nothing does.
If you’re self administering you can write what comes up in your phone notes as it comes up every 5 or ten minutes or even every 2 or 4 minutes depending on what’s coming up. The concept of what’s coming up doesn’t matter as much as staying physically in tune and embodied with the fffeeling that’s coming through as these mental distortions are remembered. At the end, Installing a positive adaptation belief to counter the distorted belief is very important, so after the negative stuff is cleared, install the positive with bilateral stimulation as well.
EMDR really helped me have a breakthrough in therapy, I’ve been recovering/healing/learning to thrive so well in the last couple of years particularly because of it.
Sad how many people need and don't even know what it is or it exists even , god what a shameful world
My brain is having a hard time accepting that this could be helpful--I don't know why. Probably because it is foreign and new to me. I'll try to continue with the modality.
@@barbo1106 Maybe because some people are con artists and are trying to con you out of money?
@@klausschwab4019 I’m so sorry you feel that way
What’s the name of your therapist
Someone had spoke of this type of therapy just today, thinking it may help with my PTSD. Looking forward to exploring this further with my therapist. Thank you for the demonstration.
happy to hear it was helpful. Dr. Lukin
Same!
My Counselor mentioned EMDR today. Watching the helps me understand the process. Also realized different modalities would be used based on my reactions. Feeling safe is of prime importance for me.
@@iBRINGpeace2day Glad it was helpful. Dr. Lukin
I finally went for EMDR for my PTSD from a head on collision. It has been life changing for me. I can finally go to sleep without reliving the accident.
This lady is brave for doing this to be put on TH-cam
I love how she can think of all these things to say, I never have thoughts I can articulate very well
She is a therapist and this was just a demonstration, not real.
My therapist suggested I get involved in EMDR therapy. I have complex ptsd and was abused for 20 years, so my issues run pretty deep. I always fear I’ll never heal but this gives me hope. I’m so exhausted by this disorder and I just want to be okay.
I am sorry to hear. Yes, sometimes EMDR can help. All the best
I hope you heal and find peace with everything you went through. Sometimes I feel like I went through pain at a young age so I can be there for others who experience challenges later in life. I don’t mind letting the right ppl lean on me.
can you give an update? Were you able to do it and is it helping?
I understand. I also fear that I will never heal also.
Visualize being well I do same I think what is worst you have to see yourself well and healed . Gabor mate has looked at health and how anxiety and trauma effects are health . I am enough work of Marissa Peer is great she os a therapist who saw that most people just feel inferior and once they decide that they not inferior they feel more balanced and safe .
I prefer the vibrating paddles to the eye movements but Emdr was the catalyst that snapped me out of a 3 decade long dissociative state after trauma splitting as a child. I had the strongest wall built up around my heart and mind. The “I’m completely fine. I don’t feel hurt at all. Just let me be angry and bitter” wall. Emdr broke that wall down in a split second during my 4th session. The 1st 3 sessions I didn’t feel much of anything, I was completely numb from my head to my toes but during that 4 session, I crumbled and it took me a week in isolation to process what had happened.
Would love to know what the week of processing felt like, was it crying, nightmares?
@@dianeknezevic1482 it felt like my protective walls crumbled and I didn’t have anything protecting me from the pain and sadness anymore, which was heartbreaking. I lost my abusive husband to a drug overdose and that same night my son was ripped away from my arms while I was handcuffed and taken to a mental hospital about a year before trauma treatment. That week I was finally able to be honest with myself, that I was hurting, that I wasn’t “fine”. The anger and resentment and I’m totally fine wall was thick and it broke completely. I laid in bed for a week, with spells of crying and deep depression. I could finally feel the grief that I had locked away.
I will say that I was also finally correctly diagnosed with DID and complex ptsd from childhood narcissistic abuse but at the time I still thought my childhood was “normal”. There were layers upon layers of dissociation protecting me from painful memories that I’ve been slowly recovering over the last 7 years.
Emdr was like the wrecking ball that destroyed the toxic foundation I built (for survival) and it gave me the opportunity to search through the wreckage for my inner child then rebuild a healthy foundation with my core personality, I was raised to be the crazy scapegoat villain by my vulnerable narcissist mom and brother and through educating myself I learned that it wasn’t my fault. Narcissists always target the highly sensitive, empathetic one of the bunch.
I have been seeing an individual therapist who specializes in EMDR. I was diagnosed with complex PTSD earlier this year. I started seeing her beginning of Feb 2023 and we are just now starting the EMDR, as she said she feels I am strong enough! So fascinating how powerful our brains are!
My regular therapist is going on maternity leave so we decided it would be cool to try emdr for a few months while she's gone. Thank you for showing me what to expect, fear of the unknown tends to cause me to just avoid, avoid, avoid. I'm actually excited to try after reading all the comments
I used emdr for ptsd couple years ago. Really helped. I would like to go back again now that I have watched this. Highly recommend it. Bilateral stuff is great because it always comes back to centeredness
My friend has recently told me about this therapy, and I don't believe it is any coincidence that the feelings this lady felt, as I too felt, a disturbance in my tummy area, this resonates with the solar plexus chakra, it has also been known through many years that trauma is held in this part of the body. As I did the EMDR, I began to feel a lift in my chest, resonating with the heart chakra. I am only 4minutes 53seconds into the video and Im really impressed.
I am glad that it resonates with you. Dr. Lukin
@Goth “Jedi Master Engineer” Bosch I am glad you found it useful. Dr. Lukin
I just read the book "The Body Keeps the Score" and it references EMDR. Thank you for this video. I was concerned it was the same as hypnotherapy. Which is not something I feel comfortable with.
Great! You can go to emdria.org to find a provider near you. Dr. Lukin
I have that book and haven’t read it yet. What chapter is the emdr?
@@brenaebuckhanon1089 I don't remember right now. But I think the chapter has EMDR in the title. The book is really good. Hope you get a lot out of it.
@@brenaebuckhanon1089 Chapter 15. Letting Go of the Past: EMDR
@@deborahanne8420 Chapter 15. Letting Go of the Past: EMDR
Came here to see. I'm going to be doing this. Facts💯🧠 in my therapy.
Childhood trauma to my last breakup, bad memories.
Can't wait to process with it to deal with these.
I can't wait to move on and deal with these. 💯
Thanks for giving us an example.
Thank you for this!! My therapists recommended EMDR for me. I battle anxiety and major driving anxiety . I haven’t driven on the highway in over 5 years !
I’m so glad I’m not the only one with this fear!!! And night driving.
I’m starting next month due to major trauma and high anxiety.
@@reannaop02 any relief?
I really enjoyed this condensed and accelerated demonstration. It was helpful and informative. They gave realistic expectations and caveats as well. I really appreciated these quotes...
"Super important point" with EMDR... The therapist may verbally interact during the session but... "that doesn't mean that we never say anything, like here and there I might speak a bit, but typically with EMDR we want to stay out of the brain's way" of processing traumatic memories/experiences...
I am glad that it resonated. Dr. Lukin
Would it be effective if you haven't got a SPECIFIC triggering image/memory in mind but have a generalised feeling from a built up range of events? Like a general feeling of being unsafe or unheard or unloved? How do you focus or go with it?
The focus could be on any general feeling/sense. Allowing oneself to be in that space begins the journey of discovery. Dr. Lukin
Absolutely. We target thoughts, images, beliefs, feelings. That is why in the video he asked "where do you feel it in your body." It's an approach that takes the mind and body into consideration.
Oh, I would say yes. I had EFT, which I think is another version of EMDR and I had the same thing as you but it showed up in this feeling of a blockage in my throat. Not major but it was always there and for the same reason you give. I never had that ever again after EFT. Working on being heard or feeling heard, safe and loved is a journey in itself but it won't be hampered by body memories. The first time I spoke up for myself it was just a whisper and I said ;This isn't necessary' as a family member screamed at me. Then I hung up the phone. It doesn't sound like much but it was powerful to me. Empowerment is a process and so long as you find your own safe pace, and not someone else's, you will get there. I'll see you there!
My therapist suggested this to me today and honestly I just couldn’t understand what she was talking about. This video was the best! Thank you
Thank you
First, he looks like Clark Kent, nice … very helpful. I’m on my 10 session of EMDR and talk about it all the time to try to spread the word to others. This video will be helpful to share so people can get a quick glimpse into how it’s run. Thanks.
He’s so nice looking I found it distracting. I’d be looking at his right & left biceps. Maybe that would still work! -Ha!
Seriously though, amazing technique to explore and I appreciate them both for demonstrating it.
My husband was diagnosed with PTSD in 2019. He's going to be starting this type of therapy soon. I'm really hopeful that this, along with a service dog, will allow him a little bit more freedom to do everyday things.
Therapist here: EMDR will help him massively.
Hi, where do you find this therapy? Dr?
Hope he is doing well, Since getting this treatment.
The eyes movements have be proven to calm the (mind and body) the fight, flight, freeze response and give us calmness and clarity
I got motion sickness lol I nearly threw up
I have CPTSD and DID. The first session released pent up feelings. The next sessions made me feel like I was being controled.
I wonder if thats why people play slot machines, constant eye movement. ?? any thoughts on this..
@@ginal.9847 Thats interesting.
@@sr2291 to me its like being hypnotized, totally calm while playing...I don't go often, yet its enjoyable for that very reason.
Very informative. I have shared this in class with my community college human services students as an overview and they also found this video of value. Thank you!
glad to hear! Dr. Lukin
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Best video! Thank you. Thank you so much for being willing to show your therapy session to the community. This is so valuable. Thank you brave souls.
This was role play
it actually works. it's crazy to me, but it's working. Ithought CBT was the most effective one for me, but this one even more gets to the root.
This is a new understanding of why somebody might have shifty eyes. I know a man who lives with a lot of stress, but is just happy and smiling all the time and everyone is amazed at this, but he is also known for shifting his eyes from left to right a lot. As far as I know it's not therapy induced, so he must have learnt it from his race and culture being Chinese or he was born like that.
Oh wow just the ten minutes in this session TREMENDOUSLY helped me relieve soo much tension from my stomach from past memories and thoughts and it also helped me to process those thoughts in a healthy way in order not to think of them anymore!! I’m so grateful for this exercise thank you so much!!
And I’m sure I’ll have to stop back by a few times in order to fully process those thoughts and get rid of those yucky feelings once and for all!! Thank you so much again for this helpful video!! It’s much appreciated!! 😊✨☮️😌
Grateful for this brave woman for helping me learn about EMDR❤
I am so excited to learn this in the up and coming months.
I was fortunate to get to experience this through a Christian counselor, I was freed from years of anger, hate, rage and all of that was replaced with peace, calmness, happiness. I called my counselor my angel on earth. It is an amazing process. I truly believe in it.
Am glad it worked for you. My brother just told me about it today. Am thinking of trying it. I hope it works for me.
Thank you for your comment. It gives me hope that my husband i’m separated from might find healing.
Interesting with the eye movement because I find myself doing the same thing when I'm describing a memory that coincides with the discomfort I'm trying to explain. Like I'm looking for the words in the air to describe my thought process.
Thank you very much for this video! You guys talked about a lot of things that were not mentioned to me by the two therapists I’ve done EMDR with or in videos I watched.
I watched a bunch of videos like this one before I started EMDR, and in my experience so far it’s not anything like the videos I’ve seen. They all showed some kind of major shift happen in session. Thank you for talking about how that’s not the norm. ❤ Maybe that does happen but that has not been my experience. And so far usually after a session I’ve been more anxious and more emotional, and I have a chronic illness and experience flareups, and I do think that those emotions subside and there is some thing that happens. But at least for me I’m far from any major Change, and my therapist is so busy he really doesn’t have time to even think about me outside of sessions. They don’t even give him time to take notes after seeing a client. I’m still hopeful about it but I definitely wasn’t prepared for the way I have felt in between sessions. I wish that I had been given a full picture of how this is not a quick process you do a couple of times and you’re healed. It is a long process, it has steps I wasn’t told any of that. The therapist I saw before this one would just have me put on headphones and hold little balls that vibrated bilaterally and think about a traumatic event for 15 minutes. And then she would stop me, ask what happened and that was it. And that was all out of pocket. I just feel like clients should be given a lot of information about how the process works and what May happen in between sessions. Because that’s been when I struggle the most. I just hope eventually I see a major change because I’ve been seeing this therapist for eight months.
Getting a different therapist could help perhaps
This was very helpful, thanks! My wife and I went through a very traumatic event recently, so we're interested in EMDR.
I'm glad to know more what this looks like, I was really curious. I feel really anxious and don't think I'm ready for this.
Sometimes it looks scarier than it is. I would encourage to reach outs
You are not alone on this intake. I am starting my first session today and I am extremely afraid of reliving those moments/emotions. But, I’ll do whatever it takes for me to have a better state of mind. I pray and hope that this type of therapy will help me.
It’s a pity they’re are not more people like you both in this world a lot of people suffer for years ie can’t afford therapy or don’t know about emdf I hope the people in this field and governments around the world can see the huge benefits this therapy can bring to to society and in effect can have a massive positive powerful influence on our future generations because our kids won’t have the pain we had
I have cptsd and was experiencing some fairly consistent and constant ruminating. Having recently read a fluff piece on EMDR and not knowing how little I knew I lay in the bed I didn't want to get put of I thought on an image that represented one of the major causes of my ruminations and flicked my eyes back and for about 60 seconds and found some relief. I did this for several days and some self talk or positive observations. That lead to me finding a therapist who used EMDR and continued improvement.
I'm glad I watched until the end but more importantly to around the 20min mark because I thought "I am responding wrong to my therapist because I just mention the direct emotion or sensation that I feel in that moment."
However, I'm glad that is a more effective way to respond.
Also, it definitely takes us more sessions to get through a single memory because I have Dissociative Identity Disorder but it does truly help.
From watching this video, it very helpful in understanding this therapy she seems like her patient would be very comfortable during a session.
I work at a trauma recover center, will definitely be bringing this up to my higher ups.
Glad that this was helpful.
It’s not even a new therapy. bruh
How did it go
Please read. The body keeps the score. It changed my life. This therapy is truly amazing and magical. I hope all of you heal and your existence matters here.
I actually like the tapping because you can do it on your own and eye movements don't have to have a second person. I find it helpful and holding onto squishy stress balls.
You can easily do eye movements on your own
Thank you for a thorough demonstration & discussion, I can say now, I have a understanding of what this newer modality of treatment entails.
My hope is to get certified with this.
Best of luck to you. You will help a lot of people.
Be sure n give us an update on School choices, tuition fees and or if there are any " Free/ repayment through offering said certificated services pro bono.
When you say certified I do hope you mean fully college educated including at least a BS or not Master Degree in Psycology field not a workshop or community study type quick slam bang you are putting up a shingle. The reason I say that is so many people who do not have the full background and training can do harm to a fragile person or not recognize something more sercious and cause harm. I kid you not it's happened and does happen. I commend you for wanting to be trained to help others but make sure YOU KNOW and GET the whole background in this field & not settle for the short cut.
Thank you to Dr. and patient for sharing this valuable therapy!
Great demonstration. I have several clients who are interested in EMDR and I have heard of it's effectiveness. I am currently looking to add it to my own practice!
I believe this therapy could be productive as a starting point for couples therapy. Of course have this done individually right before having the couples do therapy together. If this has not been done I would guess if both parties are willing it would have positive results.
yes, exactly. Dr. Lukin
It works and it's amazing how better you can start feeling.
Thank you for this video. I’m starting EMDR next week and this helped allay some of my anxiety. I was feeling like I had to script out my life story and it was making me panic 🙀 and not want to process anything. Any advice on how to “dig in” would be helpful!
Glad you are starting it. Usually the therapist helps a client to dig deep in the beginning of treatment. Hope this helps. Dr. Lukin
Same, I can't remember too many specific events in my childhood
I have been wanting to start going to therapy, but I have a lot of fear. I’m researching different types of therapy to at least reduce my fear of the unknown, and hopefully it will help me find a therapist who aligns with my struggles. I’ve heard about EDMR and read a general description, but seeing it in action is very helpful! It looks intense, but maybe it could help me. I’m struggling, and I have been since I was a very small child.
Hi, good for you for considering therapy. You don’t know what will work or which therapist is right for you until you try. I went through the same thing too. I had fear about therapy and of not finding a right therapist even though I knew I need therapy. Eventually everything got too much for me to handle (especially with the pandemic), so I randomly picked a psychologist to get help with my emotions and anxiety. The first psychologist gave me some technique to use to calm my anxiety, but I didn’t feel connected to him. Luckily, my friend’s psychologist was accepting new client (I had to wait 3 months), so I booked with her and she has help me a lot. I really like her. So check with your friends or family members if they know of a therapist that they can recommend to you.
Best wishes to you on your healing journey. :)
That man has a REALLY kind face!! :)
That's because he's female.
@@briseesit4061 no he's not
No, he just looks like a nerd.
He's a hottie
He looks like Clark Kent and Superman. Good balance. Ha.
Genuine with inner honor in tact.
The decayed tooth replaced with good material is a helpful analogy. Great video!
I know a lot of other people have said this but thank you very much for this. Very helpful
kimie vanvleet - typically EMDR is treatment for trauma and/or painful live events. What you have described is probably better served by Cognitive or Dialectical Behavior therapies (CBT; DBT); Hope this helps. Dr. Lukin
This is the best DEMO
This is such a interesting and unique concept, so smart I think the idea is to have your brain working left right left while simultaneously thinking of the old traumatic thoughts this allows your brain to separate your thoughts of the event, from the feelings you get from thinking about that event so now when the thoughts do go through your head the emotions Connected with the traumatic thoughts no longer exist.
I love that logo at the beginning. I felt positive, sooo calming...
Thank you! Dr. Lukin
leaving a comment to bump you statistics so ppl can see this, it helped me with trauma that I didn't even know I had.
My therapist wants to try emdr to help my ptsd. I’m lowkey nervous but I’m also excited
I have a complex trauma and my therapist recommended me to look into it
I am going for it a week from tomorrow. Had no idea what to expect. Thank you.
i start edmr next week. thank you lord. please wish me luck as i start. im done being so depressed.
Good luck! Dr. Lukin
I will pray for you. I am do being depressed too. I want to live and not just exist.
Amazing therapy that really helped me from the first session. Thank you for posting this
I had EMDR once. Only once. It provoked such a feeling of overwhelming fear, sickness and was crying uncontrollably, I’ll never do it again. That’s the only way I can explain how it felt! It was terrifying.
That's a sign that great work was being done! The more emotionally painful, the deeper work you are doing. ❤
maybe it was just too soon.
@@jazztrumpet76 I don't agree with your statement because everyone is different - it's not for everybody.
It was probably your body releasing the feelings you had when you were abused. It’s really important to let the emotions out.
I'm so sorry you had a bad experience with EMDR, I hope you found something that worked for you!
I just had my first session today.. Finally getting help 💫
Thank you so much for sharing this!!! It is so hopeful to actually see it
When i started EMDR it seemed BS & ridiculous to me. Now after 2+ years i got rid of most of my traumas & anxieties. I no longer ruminate or experience distress :). After affects (after session) are very hard (migraines, no energy, no strength, no desire to do anything, emotionally exhausted, easily irritated). Also after some sessions it felt like my mind opened up and I'm now in love of colors( warm colors such as red orange yellow pink etc) i used to be afraid of. My car is yellow :D Every time i see it; it brings me smile.
I am honestly terrified because my next appointment I will be doing this and im scared I will freak out😭 but these comments are calming me down
Did you do it already? How did it go?
@@ElisandroDeLeon I’ve done quite a few sessions, it’s a lot less scary than I thought but it is hard to revisit past traumas, it is really working for me though it’s just a slow process
I have ptsd about 25 years.
I was serving in a special unit in Israel army.
I am about to start treatment in emdr...
tank you for the video.
it's help me very much.
איך אתה עכשיו??! מקווה שעזר!
I swimride bike or walk when I'm deregulated and usually feel better. This now makes sense cuz it is bilateralwork
I very much enjoyed this video, it gave me a well described picture of actually seeing how this works.
Great demonstration.
I love the topic of EMDR. I am glad benefits are being seen and that this form of therapy exists.
I wanted to share the following since many people think EMDR is only for Serious Trauma, PTSD, Abuse, etc.. And I am very glad it is able to help with those things. But the truth is that there are many, many other uses possible for EMDR.
I got into EMDR because I had heard of amazing things being done with it from a therapist who is trained in A.R.T (Accelerated Resolution Therapy - which is based on EMDR). I do not have the serious issues that this can handle, but did suffer forever from Nail/cuticle Biting. Finally I decided to try this for a cure. I was told they expected only an 85% success and had never used EMDR specifically for Nail biting, but did see EMDR cured of it when dealing with other issues as kind of a side effect. So, I went to the therapist (in FL) who used EMDR to cure me from Nail biting. It only took one session. I had been biting my nails for more than 45 years. It has been 4 years since I was cured of Nail biting and have had no relapses or other issues at all. I told my mirror-image identical twin brother (in TX) about it; he bit his nails so bad it was unreal. Anyhow, he went and received therapy and it worked for his nail biting issues after one session as well!
I later went ahead and studied and became certified at EMDR, but I am not taking on clients. For work I am a professional button pusher (software developer). I recommend highly that everyone seek a professional for help if needed for things they are not comfortable with thinking about themselves. However, I prefer to let people try and help themselves on light stuff, and get help if they need it. This also allows for someone to check it out first hand. I think everyone should be able to get to their Safe Place (which I call Go-to Calm).
My niece had a couple of issues and I was able to help her with them;
One was Nail biting, another was dealing with a situation that whenever her husband and kids would start horsing around in the living room (visible from kitchen) she would get very upset. She never has known why, but just wanted to stop the effects of her getting extremely upset, yelling, and then leaving the area. After EMDR, she no longer has any ill reaction at all to the playing around, and to the extent that her husband and kids even noticed she was OK and mentioned it to her. Then another thing EMDR helped her with which is directly related to this story today about regulating stress. She setup via EMDR a way to say a phrase to herself and immediately be able to "Take a breath", and physically Relax. She is a children school teacher for difficult students at the school. On a less serious note; she also uses it for when she goes to hockey games and gets too hyped up and yelling for her team 😁 .
With all said, I also believe there is a lot of support for Self EMDR (Google books on it..), so I feel safe in sharing. So, I made it free and anonymous for anyone. This will let people check it out without any cost and at their leisure.
Here is my channel on the subject of EMDR:
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And here is one playlist that some have used to actually become cured of Nail Biting already.
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This immediately made me think of how pendulums are used for hypnosis
7:45 started crying bruh. I saw her frown and I just couldn’t handle. God bless ❤️
Looks interesting. Too bad for poor people who can't afford therapy or transportation to free clinics. That needs to be fully solved on a fundamental level. There definitely need to be more therapists that go to people's homes who are extremely agoraphobic, or disabled in proprioceptive ways.
That's kind of what telehealth is for. Obvi that's internet dependent, but somehow, my homeless mother who has no income has been attending weekly BetterHelp therapy sessions using her phone. I'm not sure how she achieved it, I didn't ask. We don't really talk a lot. But maybe there is something out there foreveryone?
In Virginia Medicaid (and luckily our medicaid expanded) will provide transportation to these appointments. There is always going to be someone in need who doesn't have access, and we need to continue to advocate for these changes so that there is access. There is also an at home med company that just started working in the central Virginia area for this reason. Again, fight for these changes.
The training for this certification is pretty expensive, but there have been grants recently that cover the cost. Our local federally qualified health center (FQHC) was able to get most of the behavioral health clinical team trained and can now offer this to the mostly homeless population that they serve (where appropriate). I have been really impressed with the drive to make this more available.
This is why most if not all cities have county health care systems along with Medicaid programs.
@@DaileyDoseOfJoseph Can u please tell me more about what website/service your mother is using? I cannot afford much but I have access to internet and am trying to find a way!
@@DaileyDoseOfJoseph why would your mother be homeless if she has you?
Thank you for making this video.
How cool is this!! Thanks for sharing this.
Very helpful information. Thanks for creating this content.
I'm going through EMDR right now for past trauma I experienced as a child. I was bullied/abused by my peers at school (6th grade through 12th grade). The physical scars have healed, but the mental and emotional scars are what I've carried over the past 25 years. There are other negative events in my young adult life as well, and I'll be dealing with those, too.
The bottom line is EMDR does help; although because of being diagnosed with ADD as a kid, I need the visual portion of it (the horizontal back and forth) to be slowed down considerably. I find it hard to concentrate when it's too fast. I'm not focused on specific details regarding the traumatic memory, but instead on the emotions. For me, all the details are like a snowball rolled downhill; lots of accumulated stuff and all fragmented.
One thing I to note is that the 2 "paddles" you hold in each hand that alternate vibration. This subconsciously trains your brain to use the tapping action as an outlet for when you feel stressed by outside or involuntary triggers or even recalling the trauma in your mind. Just food for thought.
It looks so phony to me. My trauma was so severe, I had to push the memory out of my body. How can i recall, what was overwhelming for me?
@@chuck3999 EMDR is not for everybody. The only way to know for sure it works for you is to try it. If not, then you may be recommended for other options. The details of what happened in the traumatic events are not as important compared to dealing with the emotional scars as a result of the trauma. These feelings can impact your ability to heal and move on in life. Those who struggle with "getting over it" find themselves using methods that might not work or lead to masking/covering up what you don't want to confront. All I can suggest is talk with your doctor and get their opinion. They may recommend yes or no based on your history.
I can tell you that it does help in my case. For the longest time I felt bitter, confused, depressed and had anxiety being around other people. I was wanting to kill myself just to be free of the pain and anger. My self worth and esteem were empty, not to mention the lack of self confidence in anything I did. I carried that for years. It wasn't until I got into therapy and using EMDR that I am able to take control. The ultimate goal is hopefully the healing occurs and I can be free from these things that burden me.
Joe,
Thanks for your response. I will have my first session on Monday. I will give it a try. However, I still have my doubts.
@@chuck3999 I wish you good luck and my prayers are with you for healing and comfort throughout your journey.
@@chuck3999 how'd it go?
This is by far the most effective therapy method I have encountered, both as a clinician and a patient. I appreciate the quick film about the process. In reflection of the clients mode and affect, I believe her to be under the use of a stimulant, such as meth or cocaine. EMDR is highly effective, but we need to be mindful of the clients state of mind I believe the efficacy would be diminished for clients such as this, as their mental presence would not be completely engaged.
Great demonstration. I liked how you mixed in other therapy types into one session. Very effective. Have you ever integrated pressure point tapping into any of your sessions?
Brilliantly clear demonstration! Thank you I learned so much
Does this help with Agoraphobia? I start EMDR on Wednesday 😭 I haven’t left my house in 3 weeks, exposure therapy on only helping slightly and I hope my sessions to come help me over come this fear.
Although it is not specifically designed for that, it may be worth a try. Dr. Lukin
Is the fear mental based or physical based? Are you afraid you will fall or get lost if you go outside?
@@sr2291 It usually both, as trauma has 3 components - 1) physical 2) emotional and 3) cognitive, i.e., thinking. Hope this helps. Dr. Lukin
@@sr2291 the fear is mental. I’m afraid of being away from home, it’s like the “Fight or flight” I usually flight and my safe zone is my home.
@@mercedezchico6593 so.. did it help?
dose emdr bring back the trauma memories?
and i don’t remember my day to day because of the trauma, dose it help bring back my normal memory?
So much hate in the comment. I enjoyed the content,thank you.
I have been recommended by my psychiatrist and therapist to start EMDR therapy and they said it will be the worst time during it since I’ve never dealt with trauma or PTSD but I’m gonna try on the new year this video clarified more for me
I actually just did it on myself and worked . I will look into it to get EMDR class
I want to watch this :( But I think it's triggering painful childhood feelings. It's making me realise I need this therapy more than ever. I have always wanted to try EMDR, it's honestly helped so many, it's amazing. Keep up the good work.