Thank you for your input. It is very hard to tell in this game with no kill cam support. Maybe if developers implement a kill cam (which you can watch after maybe 20 minutes from match) reports can be much more refined.
@@sstrakademi They will definitely delay it. Killcam videos will only result in more support tickets. They will appear on TH-cam just like your video is now. And that's bad PR. But who knows.. :)
@@Albi073 Well... Back in the days one of the marketing prof. in my university once said there is no such thing as bad advertisement. Just missed opportunities to counter it. I learnt what it truly means a while later. All of those thousands of youtube videos can be turned into promotional assets if they manage to show off how effective they are against cheating.
I know right... with an SMG, 49 meters away, all heashots and seeing me in so short time despite me making absolutely zero sound that he can hear... it was very suspicious to me too... I usually appreciate people who kills me but this one was very difficult for me to...
In this age of shooters it is very difficult to tell between skilled shooter, a mouse macro shooter (which automatically compensates recoil) or a hacker with cheated recoil... There are some very good players and there are some very good cheaters... Making the distinction between very tricky
@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo well I usually compliment the people who can spot and kill me. But this time it just didnt click that appreciation in me... Thats why I felt like reporting. I play with max level max recoil control vector in attack/defense mode and even there it usually does not go like laser...
after reviewing this he is not cheating, he fired 3 shots single shot config on the vector I tested this in firing range and those shots are easy .2 second TTK in firing range
@@sstrakademi you are welcome, I try to do what I can and am too lazy to put out my own videos really so I just contribute to others :D. But yeah wasn't trying to put you down or anything my friend just wanted to put my input in on this incident also subbed to you mate
@@kalzaeth No no no.. I never feel anything like that. I am an engineer myself drowning in statistical excel sheet calculators in many games. What you did was truly #respect on my side. Thank you so much for subscription too! Indeed it takes a lot of effort .. A six minute gameplay video took me 13 hours to edit with over 200 cuts and timings and more... Since I started youtube content creation instead of playing 8 hours per day and chilling around 5 hours; I am playing one hour and then video editing(and learning) 10+ hours... It truly is feeling like a full time job already and I am barely touching my feet to a vast ocean of youtube content creation...
@@sstrakademi it also doesn't hurt that I have about 200 something hours in the game from every closed alpha till now. There are a lot of things to learn, helmets plus perception boosters you can hear really far especially with the purple +50% hearing helmet.
I thought so too... But I'm always skeptical because I have been banned for cheating from multiple games about 10-12 years ago. When in reality I was just playing very good and legit with extreme focus. (I was young and at my peak). So now I am thinking like 5-10 times before saying cheat to anyone...
Thats what I've thought too... I didn't do any noise which he can hear. Yet he focused on me and shot me so quickly with an SMG full auto and all headshots...
@@sstrakademi Yes you did. The AI dying was noise as you knew they were possibly outside from the broken glass when you were walking the wall. You then also have the knife noise because after a bit Hackclaws knife makes audible noise. It is only a sec or two but if you know the sound you know Hackclaw is around. They just knew to watch the entrance and if not solo another person was def watching the left side of that entrance. Due to how fast you died your helmet only had 20 health and one shot took it to 19. They were using purple ammo stated in the kill feed. Lvl 3 vest (you) and Lvl 4 ammo (them). The accuracy of the Vector would have to be through the attachments and calibration of attachments for vertical camera movement and control to stop weapon sway. The most sus imo is the headshots 100% agree, which is why I am glad they are bringing killcam hopefully season 2. But again at 50m and depending on the attachments and calibration you can make most weapons a lazer.
@@DagNotland Small world... I am sad to see more than myself is being exposed to such encounters. There have been many people saying it may not be hack but It is very difficult to know without actual killcams
The knife probably gave away your position. Furthermore you peek the corner while your pistol was blocking your view on the enemy. He had plenty of time to align his ACOG on your head. It was probably legit.
Try to emulate that precision in the shooting range, you never will. The suspicious part is not the spotting, but this absurd spray at long range for an SMG.
@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo Easily, customize the gun with correct points for control and vertical camera movement and then calibrate the parts on the other screen for more control
@@darth_cheezus I know the meta customization, that doesn't make the SMG become a laser at that range anyway. It's very strange how you guys are defending this very suspicious player.
@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo You dont even have to do a meta customization to allow it to behave like that as long as you are able to control recoil which many can do. You can call it strange all you want, but the game gives you the tools to make recoil almost non existent. I'm not debating if there are hackers or sus people, which obviously there are but I don't see much sus about this one. Especially with the armor ratings (only 20 health in helmet) this person had and the purple ammo the enemy had.
He's legit, just by checking his profile you can see he has a legit profile. But if you dont wanna go by the profile, we can analyze that in fact you made noise (even tho you think you didnt as you said in a comment bellow), your knife is an ability and has a sound it does when you use it, a slight beep noise is heard by the player on the side you threw the knife... About the headshots, I mean, vector is an A tier SMG, not S tier because you cant buy lv5 bullets to it, and as you can see he's using Lv4 bullets, and the gun looks like is really pimped out, which if you go test in the firing range, a 350K-450K vector is a laser gun even at 50-60m distance
@@pedroaraujo6846 Thank you for your analysis. It is really difficult to know if its cheat or not at first sight. And I don't like calling anyone cheater especially in an era where young kids have reflexes of a panther :) but that being said, it is a common knowledge that delta force has hacks used widely and developers acknowledged it...
he saw your knife trail, and pre aimed at the corner, standing there for at least 5 seconds waiting for you to pop out. i have a clip of me doing something similar to an enemy except in my case i saw them far away before the engagement and predicted their route. it's easy to line up headshots with just crosshair placement especially with laser gun setups, this game is especially generous with the headshot hitbox if it was apex, pubg or tarkov, i would doubt it but in this game that could very much be legitimate
Thank you for your analysis. I agree it is very difficult to tell sometimes with all games having different sound/visual clues and hitbox / gunplays... I don't call anyone cheater in any game anymore. There are lots of extreme reflex and perception players - I stopped thinking if it is a hack / macro / or legit - after seeing COD rushers, BF heli pilots & Fortnite Skyscrapers... However developers are banning lots of cheaters and many other players are aware there are cheats in the game already. So I wanted to hear debate / critic of you guys.
Due to not having enough subscribers, sadly I'm unable to integrate a poll to my video. I'd like you guys to debate in comments if possible.
He could see you throwing the knife, but that weapon is not capable of such precise headshots from such a long distance.
Thank you for your input. It is very hard to tell in this game with no kill cam support. Maybe if developers implement a kill cam (which you can watch after maybe 20 minutes from match) reports can be much more refined.
@@sstrakademi They will definitely delay it. Killcam videos will only result in more support tickets. They will appear on TH-cam just like your video is now. And that's bad PR. But who knows.. :)
@@Albi073 Well... Back in the days one of the marketing prof. in my university once said there is no such thing as bad advertisement. Just missed opportunities to counter it. I learnt what it truly means a while later. All of those thousands of youtube videos can be turned into promotional assets if they manage to show off how effective they are against cheating.
@@sstrakademi killcam is coming on season 2
@Milidious very happy to hear that!
49m away and they are ALL headshots. Yea I'm calling cheater. Plus, how did he know you were there?
I know right... with an SMG, 49 meters away, all heashots and seeing me in so short time despite me making absolutely zero sound that he can hear... it was very suspicious to me too... I usually appreciate people who kills me but this one was very difficult for me to...
he has a decked out vector bro easily 400k worth prob has very little recoil and just good crosshair placement
@@daw8099 Even the most decked gun won't spray like a laser, stop the bs.
In this age of shooters it is very difficult to tell between skilled shooter, a mouse macro shooter (which automatically compensates recoil) or a hacker with cheated recoil... There are some very good players and there are some very good cheaters... Making the distinction between very tricky
@@sstrakademithat's not how statistics work. Most people are average.
People defending this dude is focusing way too much on the spotting instead of this ridiculous pinpoint spray.
@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo well I usually compliment the people who can spot and kill me. But this time it just didnt click that appreciation in me... Thats why I felt like reporting. I play with max level max recoil control vector in attack/defense mode and even there it usually does not go like laser...
Very strange ... cheater 😢
it is sad to see cheats so early, I hope developers increase anti-cheat capabilities quickly.
after reviewing this he is not cheating, he fired 3 shots single shot config on the vector I tested this in firing range and those shots are easy .2 second TTK in firing range
Thank you for your contribution and labratory testing. It is beautiful to see experimentalist researchers in the community! Way to go
@@sstrakademi you are welcome, I try to do what I can and am too lazy to put out my own videos really so I just contribute to others :D. But yeah wasn't trying to put you down or anything my friend just wanted to put my input in on this incident also subbed to you mate
@@kalzaeth No no no.. I never feel anything like that. I am an engineer myself drowning in statistical excel sheet calculators in many games. What you did was truly #respect on my side. Thank you so much for subscription too! Indeed it takes a lot of effort .. A six minute gameplay video took me 13 hours to edit with over 200 cuts and timings and more... Since I started youtube content creation instead of playing 8 hours per day and chilling around 5 hours; I am playing one hour and then video editing(and learning) 10+ hours... It truly is feeling like a full time job already and I am barely touching my feet to a vast ocean of youtube content creation...
@@sstrakademi it also doesn't hurt that I have about 200 something hours in the game from every closed alpha till now. There are a lot of things to learn, helmets plus perception boosters you can hear really far especially with the purple +50% hearing helmet.
@kalzaeth 👍👍I have teach about that, bullet types and armor penetration values in my beginners guide video
That's the cheater that killed me 😂
Sorry to hear you faced same fate.. better luck next time bro
too hard to tell
Its called wallhack. Why he knows you are there?
100% hack
I thought so too... But I'm always skeptical because I have been banned for cheating from multiple games about 10-12 years ago. When in reality I was just playing very good and legit with extreme focus. (I was young and at my peak). So now I am thinking like 5-10 times before saying cheat to anyone...
Cheat
Thats what I've thought too... I didn't do any noise which he can hear. Yet he focused on me and shot me so quickly with an SMG full auto and all headshots...
@@sstrakademi Yes you did. The AI dying was noise as you knew they were possibly outside from the broken glass when you were walking the wall. You then also have the knife noise because after a bit Hackclaws knife makes audible noise. It is only a sec or two but if you know the sound you know Hackclaw is around. They just knew to watch the entrance and if not solo another person was def watching the left side of that entrance.
Due to how fast you died your helmet only had 20 health and one shot took it to 19. They were using purple ammo stated in the kill feed. Lvl 3 vest (you) and Lvl 4 ammo (them).
The accuracy of the Vector would have to be through the attachments and calibration of attachments for vertical camera movement and control to stop weapon sway.
The most sus imo is the headshots 100% agree, which is why I am glad they are bringing killcam hopefully season 2. But again at 50m and depending on the attachments and calibration you can make most weapons a lazer.
Since then I try to spare bots as much as possible when I'm near other players
@@sstrakademi Good tactic. Also is a good audio q if people are near if they kill them.
yeah nah.. either he had insane luck or hes cheating its almost 50/50
50% was the best accuracy I could have too... What are the odds of such things really... Seeing trail of the knife etc
Looks like a cheater to me 👍
Thank you for your critic! I give it 55% chance for him to be cheater but he may be a very good player too... IDK.
aimbot + wallhack! : )
Looks like it...
100% cheats
Thank you for your opinion
I've met that player, definitely cheater...
@@DagNotland Small world... I am sad to see more than myself is being exposed to such encounters. There have been many people saying it may not be hack but It is very difficult to know without actual killcams
cheater
I think so too unfortunately...
Obviously not a cheater. You made noise, stood in the open, he lined up his shot while you didn't see him, easy kill
Thank you for your opinion, that is a possibility too indeed.
The knife probably gave away your position. Furthermore you peek the corner while your pistol was blocking your view on the enemy. He had plenty of time to align his ACOG on your head. It was probably legit.
Try to emulate that precision in the shooting range, you never will.
The suspicious part is not the spotting, but this absurd spray at long range for an SMG.
No… probably heard your knife and your gun got in the way of his character, só you showed in his screen first..
@@mateusaquino7617 that is very much possible too, now that you said it I noticed that I havent test know how far the knife can be heard
Cool, now explain thay spray.
@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo Easily, customize the gun with correct points for control and vertical camera movement and then calibrate the parts on the other screen for more control
@@darth_cheezus I know the meta customization, that doesn't make the SMG become a laser at that range anyway. It's very strange how you guys are defending this very suspicious player.
@@ricardoricardoricardoricardo You dont even have to do a meta customization to allow it to behave like that as long as you are able to control recoil which many can do. You can call it strange all you want, but the game gives you the tools to make recoil almost non existent. I'm not debating if there are hackers or sus people, which obviously there are but I don't see much sus about this one. Especially with the armor ratings (only 20 health in helmet) this person had and the purple ammo the enemy had.
He's legit, just by checking his profile you can see he has a legit profile. But if you dont wanna go by the profile, we can analyze that in fact you made noise (even tho you think you didnt as you said in a comment bellow), your knife is an ability and has a sound it does when you use it, a slight beep noise is heard by the player on the side you threw the knife... About the headshots, I mean, vector is an A tier SMG, not S tier because you cant buy lv5 bullets to it, and as you can see he's using Lv4 bullets, and the gun looks like is really pimped out, which if you go test in the firing range, a 350K-450K vector is a laser gun even at 50-60m distance
@@pedroaraujo6846 Thank you for your analysis. It is really difficult to know if its cheat or not at first sight. And I don't like calling anyone cheater especially in an era where young kids have reflexes of a panther :) but that being said, it is a common knowledge that delta force has hacks used widely and developers acknowledged it...
he saw your knife trail, and pre aimed at the corner, standing there for at least 5 seconds waiting for you to pop out. i have a clip of me doing something similar to an enemy except in my case i saw them far away before the engagement and predicted their route. it's easy to line up headshots with just crosshair placement especially with laser gun setups, this game is especially generous with the headshot hitbox
if it was apex, pubg or tarkov, i would doubt it but in this game that could very much be legitimate
Thank you for your analysis. I agree it is very difficult to tell sometimes with all games having different sound/visual clues and hitbox / gunplays... I don't call anyone cheater in any game anymore. There are lots of extreme reflex and perception players - I stopped thinking if it is a hack / macro / or legit - after seeing COD rushers, BF heli pilots & Fortnite Skyscrapers... However developers are banning lots of cheaters and many other players are aware there are cheats in the game already. So I wanted to hear debate / critic of you guys.