Harriet At Play - 70s Butlins Documentary

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  • The recent death of an old mate prompted me to upload this. Terry Maisey was a great film editor and colleague at HTV in Bristol in the 70s and 80s.
    This half hour doc, shot on 16mm, was part of a series directed by Tony Palmer and is a brilliant piece of film-making.
    The last few minutes is one of the most poignant and creative sequences of television ever created, the power of which had a huge influence on my career in TV. The programme caused a real stir in the press when it was first transmitted and is something which I'm sure Butlins would rather forget.
    I know Terry was really proud of this little programme and hopefully it'll carry his memory far into the future.

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  • @MikeKleinsteuber
    @MikeKleinsteuber  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The whole series of 'Harriet' is now available as a DVD for just £10 by emailing isolde@btinternet.com

  • @mothball5425
    @mothball5425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The film didn't get across the main draw for many.. Kids could roam all over the camp without their parents all day long doing what the hell they liked. It was gloriously feral. I went to Butlins Minehead with school aged 9 in 1978 and we never saw the teachers apart from they would appear hungover at breakfast and take the register. One boy found a stinky skeleton of a dog on the beach and dragged it round in a carrier bag all week and they only noticed when we were lined up to get the coach home.😂

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like fun...

    • @notreallydavid
      @notreallydavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is the sort of post I come here for. Thanks for posting, Sarah.

    • @kaysie11dh
      @kaysie11dh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂

    • @noongourfain
      @noongourfain ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Mothball
      Wonderful story!.. I'm not from England.
      But when I was a kid it was much the same. We ran wild.
      On afternoon I was walking along with a sick pigeon in a shoe box.
      An old man with a wad of bills came up to me and offered me a tenner for whatever was in the box....money meant nothing to me at the time, so he was denied with prejudice.
      My friends questioned my sanity.
      Next time I opened the box the poor thing was dead.
      I had a great childhood with regards to freedom.
      We kids lived in a society of our own.

    • @gillpoynter2873
      @gillpoynter2873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Those were the days

  • @melodyalfie
    @melodyalfie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What a brilliant documentary. Shot in a way very ahead of its time!

  • @oldhippiejon
    @oldhippiejon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Met a fantastic Yorkshire girl in 66 at Clacton so my one and only visit was pure magic plus England won the world cup the day we arrived, never to be forgotten holiday.

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A double whammy then.

    • @spud912
      @spud912 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I met a Yorkshire lass in 1977 at Butlins Filey .caught up with her on friends re United and now FB .So still in touch .
      Loved Butlins ,I went to most of the camps including Clacton ,bognor , Minehead,Filey , Yarmouth
      My folks live in Clacton and the camp is long gone ,a housing estate sits on the old site .You can still see parts of the old fence here and there though ,and the beach gate I believe is still there

  • @jellyfloppa3440
    @jellyfloppa3440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My parents took us to butlins Minehead through the 60s and 70s. Since I have been holidaying all over the world. I always say my Butlins holidays were the best. Thank you for this nostalgic treat. X

    • @michaelroberts7374
      @michaelroberts7374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Worked there Xmas 1991, nothing like this buzz

  • @laurallama73
    @laurallama73 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No adopted children or children of mixed race in the Happy Family competition??? That sounded absolutely nuts! And the worker stated those requirements with such conviction. Geez Louise! Unbelievable.

    • @sidstewart7399
      @sidstewart7399 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never judge history by moder standards.. as hard as that may be. The world moved along and will further. That's what my mum Brian tells me.

  • @telstar32
    @telstar32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For it’s time the editing and camera work is amazing. I also love how the colour to the film gives an undertone to the film

  • @timmcgarry6883
    @timmcgarry6883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I ran across this video while searching for monorail videos and I was instantly captivated. Truly ahead of it's time with soundtrack and cinematography.

  • @barrydriscoll7720
    @barrydriscoll7720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love this, love the eerie undertone with the editing, it's powerful!

  • @americanmultigenic
    @americanmultigenic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolute CLASSIC! Puts you in the Time and Place so vividly.

  • @DanSentinel
    @DanSentinel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is both a refreshingly honest and at times somewhat unsettling look at a peculiar aspect of 70s British culture.
    The seedy jokes and games are an essential part of the regimented fun of the holiday camp experience.
    The superb lighting and camerawork emphasises this dissonance.

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      regimented fun - hahaha - love the contradiction in terms necessary to describe it

  • @monumentstosuffering2995
    @monumentstosuffering2995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Woh - profound ending. I wasn't expecting such immense gravitas. Superb.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it knocked me for 6 when I first saw it in 1974...Glad you liked it...

  • @danieltadd
    @danieltadd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    During the early 90s my parents would take us to Butlins Skegness, once a year.
    The strongest and most vivid memories I have are of redcoat interactions; when she was taken aback by the comment that some visitors just want to interact with a redcoat, that made me smile.
    I miss those days and as much as I have fond memories, a kind of sadness washes over me, knowing that I may never have such experiences again.

    • @froogsleegs
      @froogsleegs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's a shame what's happened to the great british holiday park, they're on their knees now. Walk With Me Tim did a great series where he visited all the Pontins parks and honestly they look as though the business has already packed up and moved on. it's sad because these places were always supposed to be accessible for working class families and give a good value for money, but they can't balance the costs with the experience anymore. international travel is a lot cheaper than it used to be as well, partly because the airline companies have been dead in the water since 2008 and are just trying to keep passenger numbers up. you can get coupons and deals and find a weekend in amsterdam/vienna/perpignan/barcelona for like 100 euros, it's hard to compete with that. on the other hand if you just want to spend a week sitting in the sun drinking whilst your kids entertain themselves, you don't have to go to spain for that!

  • @Livinglife595
    @Livinglife595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How terrible that families with adopted children couldn’t participate in the Happy Family competition

    • @hyacinthlynch843
      @hyacinthlynch843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That broke my heart. Thankfully, things have changed.

    • @kaysie11dh
      @kaysie11dh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’d never happen today. Imagine it being 2 mums or 2 dads back then?😂

  • @rikkiniehaus4111
    @rikkiniehaus4111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This film was amazing, and your friend was a brilliant editor (and so right to be proud of this). Thank you *so* much for posting it!!

  • @kevinbaskin9489
    @kevinbaskin9489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sparks and Butlins... wonderful.

    • @CamperVanPersie
      @CamperVanPersie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Butlins Hitler lookalike competition 1974.

  • @GarrattFamily
    @GarrattFamily 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Never seen this before! For sure it has been cleverly filmed and edited to get a definate point of view across. I am sure Butlins would have hated this when it was broadcast, as they also probably also hated Jimmy Perry's 'Hi-De-Hi" comedy ! That wide angle lens right up against the faces really works to create a claustrophobic atmosphere. However, desipite this documentary, Butlins was a magic place for so many people who went there on holiday every year. And of course this is a timepiece of attitudes that prevailed in the 70's - enough said on that topic. It being shot on 16mm real film also adds greatly to the atmosphere - would not nearly be as as effective if shot on video tape. Thanks for sharing this with us!

  • @nicolemclean9028
    @nicolemclean9028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is radio butlin calling all 2nd sitting guests the time is 9 o clock & breakfast will be served at 9.30..... never forget that sentence as long as i live, happy memories

  • @indigowoody
    @indigowoody 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So strange seeing my nan on there judging on the panel

    • @noongourfain
      @noongourfain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Of the happy families!? WOW!

  • @aronevans3710
    @aronevans3710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for sharing , a fantastic documentary , a rreal eye opener about the period and marvelously edited and filmed.

  • @samspade03
    @samspade03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I worked at mine head in 81 for a month end of summer I was a Porter cleaner there was a love ly red coat who I liked very much but I didn’t have the nerve to ask her out I think she new because when I left at the end of my time there she was stood by the coach as we pulled out and she blew me a kiss I was gutted 🥲

  • @ingiemummalove130
    @ingiemummalove130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ahhh I was a redcoat in the 1998 and it was hard work 8-midnight! Dancing singing, smiling, signing postcards!!!!!! Competitions so fun! I loved it x

  • @gmorley6586
    @gmorley6586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic documentary. Brought back lots of memories for me. It captured Butlins in the 70's as it really was. And what a great ending, as good as any other horror movie ;)

  • @johnnypepper4849
    @johnnypepper4849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was amazing. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @PeasGraveny
    @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cheers for uploading this.I'm really enjoying it.
    The music, the opening credits, the hair and clothes and just the general atmosphere all point to this being made in 1974, or thereabouts.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spot on...

    • @PeasGraveny
      @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuberThank you Mike.
      Do you happen to have any of the other five episodes from this series?Do they still exist?
      I might be wrong but I get a sense TonyP. is not exactly proud to have this series on his C.V...just an observation.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PeasGravenySadly I don't. I had this one digitized quite early on as I loved it so much. I'm not certain what happened to the film library at HTV where all the others would have been stored in. However, none of the others (I think there were 4 or 5) were a patch on this one. Tony was a good documentary maker when he was angry with the subject or had a personal involvement. I think he really liked this doc. If you like this one try finding his 'All You Need is Love', a series about the Beatles which is great. His 'Miss World' was tremendous too. He went totally off the rails however when he moved over to drama. He just couldn't hack it imo and fell foul of 'the Peter principle'. He should have stayed doing docs. I think he started out as an assistant to Ken Russell at the Beeb and in some ways tried to emulate him but there was only ever going to be one Ken Russell.

    • @PeasGraveny
      @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuberI agree, his 'pop' music series were mostly very good .I always wanted to chin him,however,for the mess he made of filming the final Cream shows in '68, and also for his appearance in the clip linked below wherin Tony can be seen directing a TV show whilst simultaneously trying,and succeeding in being a massive a-hole (at the request of the documentary director,no doubt!)
      th-cam.com/video/kDgWRppfVZQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170
      @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuber Filming likely started in 1974, but the series wasn't shown until 1976.

  • @SMKJMProductions
    @SMKJMProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a 16mm film fanatic and this one is absolutely superb. The camera work and editing is trully excellent - wish I'd been involved with making it but I wasn't born at the time!

    • @lawrencel1668
      @lawrencel1668 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Out of interest, how can you tell its 16mm film?

    • @SMKJMProductions
      @SMKJMProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lawrencel1668 All on-location work was shot on film back then and 16mm was the standard film format used by all the broadcast companies. It has a look all of its own, quite different from 35mm cinema film.

    • @SMKJMProductions
      @SMKJMProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Frank De Ruiter absolutely Frank. The extensive use of a wideangle lens gives this film an unusual / pioneering style for the time. I like it..

  • @howardarends8309
    @howardarends8309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went to Pwllheli Butlins a couple of times when I was about 5 and 6. 1974/75…Can’t really remember much, but after watching this I’m glad. I have never seen so many ugly and weird looking people. My anxiety levels have just gone through the roof 🫣

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same. is it butlins or the buttfugly munch bunch asylum?

  • @ajadrew
    @ajadrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:49 - "To be spoken to by a Red Coat for some people is a great achievment"
    An absolutly serious statement by a Red Coat to a trainee Red Coat!!!

  • @thomasbuxton2502
    @thomasbuxton2502 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic Video .
    The ending I suppose is a real juxtaposition position of what Butlins was really like back in the day.
    Highly regimented entertainment is almost dictated at you .
    After being awoken by the tannoy announcement instructing you to attend breakfast whilst you depart your glorified barracks.
    But the irony is as a child of the seventies, I absolutely loved Butlins.
    Skegness, Barry Island , Clacton on Sea , Minehead, Pwllheli, Bognor Regis and Filey.
    Glorious Summers .
    A Swimming pool , A Monorail that one could spend all day going round and round and round and endless Spotted Dick and Custard.
    The feature did make me think about how cringe worthy awkward it sometimes was .
    But those were some of the best holidays I ever had.

  • @aligiff17
    @aligiff17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How times have changed, long gone are the camp & corny hol parks & competitions, the goal now seems to be centre parc style family holidays, they've already begun the transition, not sure if it will pan out tho, Butlin veterans & their families love tradition & don't like change, that began when Sir Billys wife sold out, Good video thanks for sharing.

  • @MrPhilpalmer4
    @MrPhilpalmer4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:32. How times have changed. Shame the prejudice is still there today.

  • @rickmoore4482
    @rickmoore4482 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used to go Skegness Butlins with my parents and sis back in the seventies. How I would love to go back to that time again. Watching this is actually quite sad as you see a time now long gone.

  • @jackietavarez9307
    @jackietavarez9307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fab video thanks for posting but now its my idea of holiday from hell yet loved going to Butlins back in the sixties/seventies how times have changed

  • @jillg151
    @jillg151 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great memories. I was 'Radio Butlins' in 1969 at Minehead. My day 6.30am wake up call at my Chalet by Security Staff, shifts shared between two of us (should have been three,) till 11.00pm. Staff accommodation very basic, pay minimal and at the end of the season represented Butlins in a Red Coat group at the Horse of the Year Show at the "Butlins Cup" award. Being a Red Coat was a great way to spend a Summer.

  • @cafsixtieslover
    @cafsixtieslover 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I stayed there in the mid sixties when I was 12. Nothing much has changed in this film.

    • @chriswathen9612
      @chriswathen9612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think there were any significant changes to Minehead until 1986

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "What made you come ?" "Well it certainly wasn't a picture of you..."

  • @simonnelson7770
    @simonnelson7770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great times, I was a child of the 70s and I remember it being a wonderful time compared with life now. The only thing I have noticed watching this is that people seemed to be very ugly back then😬

    • @Livinglife595
      @Livinglife595 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the lighting I think. The host was smashing though.

    • @markhoggart6491
      @markhoggart6491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scruffy men's hair and sideburns, generally dreadful poorly tailored scruffy fashion(with some exceptions), not anyway near as much attention to grooming and designer accessories made people appear uglier in the 1970's than in the 1960's and later decades (although they were not immune from fashion disasters like man perms and shell suits). But if you met face to face or superimposed today's fashions and grooming back then or did 70's fashion plus grooming now people weren't worse looking than now - I was age ten through nineteen in the 1970's so experienced it all. Then again you had nowhere near as many overweight or obese people.

    • @chanm9652
      @chanm9652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @admiralcraddock464
      @admiralcraddock464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No hideous tats on women or tribal crap all over men`s arms, legs and necks

  • @midnightcowboy3611
    @midnightcowboy3611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great film, Harriet was lovely.

  • @zacharylunsford2
    @zacharylunsford2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @ 0:11 That’s a 2 second footage of Schiff’s Wild Mouse.

  • @Halucynating
    @Halucynating 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, that guy judging the kids Picture of Health contest was creepy af

    • @chanm9652
      @chanm9652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Something very Biden about him. How could the parents let their children take part?! Its quite alarming that parents couldn't see the potential dangerous situations they allowed their children to be in back then? While some were building lovely memories, some where having just the worse time! 😕

  • @stevesteele6708
    @stevesteele6708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The editing in this is amazing for the time A WORKING CLASS HERO IS SOMETHING TO BE 😊

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      'for the time' is an interesting phrase cos in reality, other than a few notable exceptions I think editing and documentary film making has actually gone backwards. We're generally much less sophisticated today. If you like editing like this try Julien Temple's doc on The Glastonbury Festival. It's a brilliant piece of work and looks at the history of it. But the structure is very interesting. And to change the context somewhat, watch the movie '21 grams' as that has probably the best structure of any movie I've seen. Completely different to this of course but if you like one, I think you'd probably like the other....

    • @Arborealagenda
      @Arborealagenda ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuber What I was going to say. Lots of 'for its time' comments here yet this just a great film for any time! The camerawork, editing and use of music is outstanding. And it draws on a lineage of such experiments going right back to the 30s.Sadly TV documentaries now would not dare do what is done here because they are too reverent of the subject matter, and would never be as inventive or make a point about the seediness (I am reminded of Andersons 'O Dreamland' about Margate). We have undoubtedly gone backwards with tedious talking heads, commentary and a totally formulaic way of presenting just about anything..Though as you say there is the odd theatrical gem. Can't think of when I last saw a documentary as good as this on TV.

  • @brettkeepin808
    @brettkeepin808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this stuff, still going to Minehead now, 30 years later 😂

    • @rbe5579
      @rbe5579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. 50 yrs later for me though...

  • @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170
    @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I looked this up in the newspapers. It was one of a series of 6 programmes featuring Harriet Crawley, the others were "at the circus", "at the fete", "at sea", "at the opera" and "at war". The "at play'" episode first aired on HTV on 3 July 1976. I've not been able to find any sign of any controversy over it.

    • @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170
      @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      However, I found a news item in "The Stage" of 25 July 1974, saying that the series had started being made. So filming probably started in 1974 but the series definitely wasn't aired until 1976.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 Correct. I think Patrick Dromgoole (the then MD of HTV) had to wait to get a slot in the national ITV schedule, rather than just tx it locally. ITV was generally carved up by the big boys and local stations like HTV just picked up the crumbs when they could. As you can see, in this case it took two years.

    • @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170
      @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MikeKleinsteuber Not all the local ITV franchises seem to have shown it. HTV had the first broadcast in this case, and some of the others picked it up too, but not all of them. They didn't show it at the same time or on the same day.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 Thanks for the info. Interesting. It was a great series, though Tony Palmer was a much better director when he didn't like the subject, like in this, Harriet At Play prog. The others didn't quite have the same 'bite'....

    • @Arborealagenda
      @Arborealagenda ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuber Are any of those others available Mike? I also wonder if there is any kind of HTV archive as I would like to find out more about this film.

  • @paulmcdonough1093
    @paulmcdonough1093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i went to north wales butlins in 83 waiting for jim Saville to pop up adults saying lets see your muscles to a child whos topless couldn't do that today that's wrong then and now :)

    • @goodolgranite8247
      @goodolgranite8247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope that's not Savile in the video talking to the kids taking part in the Great Picture of Health Competition.

    • @racheldoesacrylic4089
      @racheldoesacrylic4089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      research jimmy saville he was an occultist and not who you think he was/// into the darkside and followed alistor crowley//

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugh Jimmy Savile turning up to that. Creepy.

  • @paulmiddleton1493
    @paulmiddleton1493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great film of minehead..best i've seen

  • @dissyduster
    @dissyduster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great days,Iv seen Sir Billy Butlin,At clacton on sea ,Camp,In a nice jag car,Was there hot summer of 76,,Killer heat,I was at skegness when ballroom Went up in smoke,It was me who raised the alam,The escorlator was on fire,and the windows were filling up with smoke,i had a instant kodak camra,took pics,still was a great time,

  • @noongourfain
    @noongourfain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I can't get enough of British nostalgia. America's too big, it will never be quaint like this.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is we revel in it a little too much and we need to move on. We're starting to create a living museum...

    • @noongourfain
      @noongourfain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MikeKleinsteuber oh dear.....i hope not!

  • @tixie1895
    @tixie1895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bit with the kids in swimming attire was creepy 😳

  • @TheInnacity
    @TheInnacity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that was a lovely half hour , finely photographed wide angle lens gave the feeling of being there , and what a lovely host Harriet was then. is there a recorded history of the shows Harriet did?

    • @PeasGraveny
      @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Harriet Crawley did six of these films, the others being Harriet At War, Harriet At Sea, Harriet At The Circus, Harriet At The Opera and Harriet In A Balloon.They were filmed in 1974 and 1975 and screened on TV in 1976. I can't find uploads of any of the other episodes so far.Maybe they no longer exist.

    • @TheInnacity
      @TheInnacity 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeasGraveny can't find them ?

    • @PeasGraveny
      @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheInnacityI've hunted around but the only thing I managed to find was a reference by the B.F.I. to the various episodes and a similar mention in a Tony Palmer 'filmography'. Strangely Harriet is not credited anywhere (not even in the closing credits of the show) and I only found out what her surname was from the uploader. I did find out that by the 1980's Harry had become an MP and had transformed into the stereotypical aristocratic Tory Lady!

  • @tazbee3920
    @tazbee3920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fear and loathing in Minehead the retro film by Terry Gilliam

  • @syrren
    @syrren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great film.....

  • @DaveBriffa
    @DaveBriffa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, i always wanted to go when i was a kid , but our holidays was a day in Blackpool.

  • @paulsimister-ng5nx
    @paulsimister-ng5nx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fond memories of working at Butlins

  • @Kiinell
    @Kiinell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting, although I don't get all the sinister music.

    • @zetametallic
      @zetametallic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me neither.

    • @helenm2169
      @helenm2169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that wasnt sinister music that was The Who brilliant punk music i was still a small baby then harriet was married to the lead singer

  • @pennybarrie3136
    @pennybarrie3136 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh my God did she just say you can't have a black child with a white mother. SHOCKING😮

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This was the 70s. What IS shocking is that many Trump supporters would say say the same today....

  • @lindat2009
    @lindat2009 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful film

  • @BashBrand
    @BashBrand ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good to hear 'Wheezy Anna' (at 14:18). Arf!

  • @gregoreverb
    @gregoreverb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This town ain't big enough for the both of us. And it ain't me who's gonna leave!

  • @scritti69
    @scritti69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was amazing! Thank you so much for posting it.

  • @oz93666
    @oz93666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did you notice that??? 9:25 ..Happy family contest ..
    Interviewer ... "How do you decide what makes a happy family"
    Red Coat .... " We obviously don't want a mother and father that's got a white and a black child"...lol ..."and we can't have foster children or adopted children "

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Shows our changing attitudes but unlike the BBC, I think you need to be able to see stuff like that in order to learn from the past. Something many activists don't understand. You can't re-write history.

    • @DAZ28111
      @DAZ28111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant 👏 🤣🤣🤣

  • @richardyoung1053
    @richardyoung1053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have been to minehead a few times in the last few years. On the surface its unrecognisable from those days but I suspect if you know where to look there are still traces of the old camp.

  • @joysalvador2499
    @joysalvador2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lived in Bognor Regis not far from But,ins went a few times just to look around with my nieces.

    • @rbe5579
      @rbe5579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this is at Minehead.

  • @markstudden9090
    @markstudden9090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Goof grief. Brilliant film. Ghastly subject.

  • @simontreves
    @simontreves ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People actually spent time and money enduring this nightmare. Ghastly.

  • @michaelroberts7374
    @michaelroberts7374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:33 oh what a lovely redcoatfull of love! Elitism in Skeggy gone nuts

  • @johnodonohoe7602
    @johnodonohoe7602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "People are like sheep" sounds like the British Public now and then!

  • @Rayblondie
    @Rayblondie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting and a wonderful host commentating and working hard being a redcoat. I don't know what the awful music was at the end. It seems to be trying to say something but not saying it. A bit creepy.

  • @itsmememe3489
    @itsmememe3489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t think the happy families comment was against mixed race families, she said one white and one black child, therefore meaning step siblings, adopted and fostered children don’t constitute a “real” happy family 🤣🤣🤣

  • @rolfejones7445
    @rolfejones7445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cannot believe the comments about Bi-racial and or foster children. - quite sad even for the time

    • @helenm2169
      @helenm2169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i picked up on that aint like that now tho thank god

  • @shaunmatthews3791
    @shaunmatthews3791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    different times indeed, some of which would be taboo now, oh well that is progress i suppose!

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eerie undertone? Why? Bizarre. Great days, wonderful memories. 😎

  • @MackMateCom
    @MackMateCom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wanting to see inside the chalets

  • @darrenmania4306
    @darrenmania4306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never been to a butlins
    This is my only way in

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you and me both, kid. we're reaching for the stars thanks to the YT time machine

  • @cbpebbles039
    @cbpebbles039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this meant to have sound ?

  • @andrewmale6738
    @andrewmale6738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike, "Harriet" made a series of docs with Tony and HTV. Do you know her surname?

  • @Arborealagenda
    @Arborealagenda ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike, this is a fantastic film, many thanks for uploading. The way the use of cinematography, editing and especially music transforms it into something really telling and profound is something that modern documentary filmmakers could take note of the next time they produce yet another production-line borefest. Do you happen to know any more about the film as there is virtually no info online. Is any of the rest of the series around and as good as this? The 'Sieg Heils' at the end are a bit much mind, ha ha.
    I realised also that I was at this Minehead Butlins around this time - I went with the cub scouts out of season and stayed in one of those 'prison camp' chalets.
    Not sure where it comes from but there is a slightly better quality upload of 'Harriet at Play' here: th-cam.com/video/bFmlT52b2ho/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheYesterdayMachine

  • @zetametallic
    @zetametallic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think the documentary maker liked Butlins very much, that end was brutal🤣

  • @kelamuni
    @kelamuni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who is the presenter in this doc?

  • @notreallydavid
    @notreallydavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idea - heaven turns out to be a seventies holiday camp.

  • @petec5135
    @petec5135 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it. Who was Harriet the host? She is not mentioned in the credits.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think she was the daughter of possibly the LWT, or similar, ceo. It was a bit of a flattery project for her. Hence cutting to a shot of her when Lennon sings 'dispise a fool' !!

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @crazyclive Thanks for the info. Really interesting. Tony thought she was a bit of a prat but overall I think she did a great job in the series

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @crazyclive I'll see what I can do. I'm not certain what has happened to the HTV library where the film was stored. I telecined this episode for myself around 30 years ago !!

    • @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170
      @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuber Harriet Crawley. She did quite a few presenting and other jobs in the 1970s and 1980s. Daughter of Aidan Crawley: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidan_Crawley

  • @gavinward1235
    @gavinward1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sinister!

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I love about it !

    • @gavinward1235
      @gavinward1235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MikeKleinsteuber yes I did, it reminded me of a clockwork orange!

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gavinward1235 LOL

  • @sphughes01
    @sphughes01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great documentary on a British institution. All those that went to Butlins between the war and the 1980s would probably say nothing bad against it. This is brilliant and reeks of the 1970s good and bad. Happy families competition would not allow mixed race or fostered kids. God seems like it was Butlitz not Butlins. But Minehead was one of the better camps too. I went to them all in the UK just did not go to the one outside Dublin. Don't know why as my family were Irish immigrants. Probably didn't want to go 'home.'
    People like to be 'ordered about ... they want to be told what to do and when to do it,' oh my God she was so right. Yet the 1970s were supposed to the really radical with the trade unions in charge ... weren't they? Seems like the English liked to show what they could do as well.
    Some of those compares are a bid dodgy. They would be prosecuted today for some of those comments and their jokes are terrible.

  • @goodolgranite8247
    @goodolgranite8247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What exact year was this made? I am interested in the "Butlinland is Freedomland" advert at the beginning and I want to watch it on its own, so I want to know when this interesting documentuary (and the advert) was made.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it was shot in 1974 and txd in 1975

    • @goodolgranite8247
      @goodolgranite8247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MikeKleinsteuber Thank you.

    • @adscri
      @adscri 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kid sings ‘Seasons in the Sun’ a 1974 hit.

    • @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170
      @dannynosdetectiveinstinct9170 ปีที่แล้ว

      As noted in another reply, it was first transmitted on 3 July 1976

  • @boballen9836
    @boballen9836 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that Arthur Smith at 2:45?

  • @andrewscott1253
    @andrewscott1253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Good video, it did make it seem kind of creepy and kind of glum. I wonder if that was intentional editing, the limitations of 70s color TV cameras inside, or if that was just how Butlins was at the time. Allowing your kids to be judged on their appearance, especially in their swimwear, shudder.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It was shot on 16mm film and of course the atmosphere was intentionally created by the use of very wide lenses and extremely creative cutting. A skill many newcomers to video have lost. Film makers had a point of view in those days and were skillful in getting it across. These days they prefer to be politically correct and sit on the fence or simply use a presenter and commentary to tell the audience what to think. Sadly the execs in terrestrial TV companies, and particularly the BBC, have decided that opinionated film makers are too hot to handle and just employ politically correct kids who aren't allowed to express themselves. That's why 99% of TV docs are unwatchable and boring.

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found the same thing especially the creepy music at the end. I wonder what they were trying to say. I enjoyed it as history. I think the original Butlins were healthier though somehow. None of the mind numbing bingo and slot machines.

    • @andrewscott1253
      @andrewscott1253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuber I think you are correct. The audience now have to be told explicitly what point the show is trying to make, rather than being encouraged to make up their own mind based on the situation presented. I guess they figure that some of the audience won't get it which I equate to dumbing down and I believe this is having a negative societal impact.

  • @willlaw1672
    @willlaw1672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Harriet was quite a beauty

  • @perrylindsay6682
    @perrylindsay6682 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i remember going to minehead around 1970 when i was 4 and all the kids chased captain blood around the camp and i was scared ,i needed the toilet and my older brother took me ,goes in then out the cubicle comes captain blood and i screamed and literally s**t myself, best place i suppose 😂

  • @helenm2169
    @helenm2169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love the drinking allowed rule not sure about the rule no black and whites, no addopted children must be blood line that was the british 70s for you. its no where like that now i think we have learned since then

  • @goodolgranite8247
    @goodolgranite8247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this was first broadcast around 1975, but when exactly in 1975 was it first broadcast?

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, absolutely no idea

    • @goodolgranite8247
      @goodolgranite8247 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only we had every issue of the TV Times from 1975...

    • @PeasGraveny
      @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to the BFI it was 1976.

    • @kingofpattaya4524
      @kingofpattaya4524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      21:35 on Sunday 14th March.

    • @PeasGraveny
      @PeasGraveny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingofpattaya4524 Thanks Nigel.Was that '75 or '76?

  • @rickhann4996
    @rickhann4996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16.13. Kids singing a gary glitter song.

  • @stevelimb7042
    @stevelimb7042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A working class hero is something to be x

  • @mistofoles
    @mistofoles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @2:14 - "A Redcoat's life starts at 8.30 in the morning and it ends at quarter to twelve." So WTF is her point ?? I wish I only had to work 3.15 hours every day !

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She means 11.45 pm at night. 23:45 to be precise.

  • @richardyoung1053
    @richardyoung1053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    23.35 Today thru would all be playing on their phones.

  • @HiteshkumarPatel-o8r
    @HiteshkumarPatel-o8r หลายเดือนก่อน

    would love to know what these "redcoats" are doing now etc

  • @PaulRoseGuitar
    @PaulRoseGuitar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great film. Some creepy characters in amongst the "entertainment".

  • @gevers1
    @gevers1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was enjoying that until I got to 9:35
    Perhaps it's the film stock used that made it look like this, but my god, the 70's looked grim.

    • @MikeKleinsteuber
      @MikeKleinsteuber  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's amazing how things have moved on. It was another world back then but in many ways a lot nicer. For starters Trump wasn't president of the US. The world is gonna look back on the last 4 years and say exactly the same thing as as you 😁

    • @Inaflap
      @Inaflap 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeKleinsteuber In August 1974, Richard 'Tricky Dick' Nixon resigned from office. He jumped before he was pushed.

    • @pauldg837
      @pauldg837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 70's were far from grim. It was a decade of unforgettable music, much of which is still replayed today. Fashion was as important for the teens as it was in the 60's. There was in fact an air of optimism in the mid 70's (although that was when I emigrated to Canada by myself at the age of 18 in 1975). More people were driving cars and homeownership was becoming possible for many newlyweds and increased numbers of school leavers were going on to university. And let's not forget that the 70's was possibly the golden era of British tv, with an amazing variety of shows and programmes which were seen by most people on their newly acquired colour tv sets. And in the 70's going abroad was becoming increasingly popular for family holidays. A lot different from today, but hardly grim.

  • @michaelrejoinbradford1282
    @michaelrejoinbradford1282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you had 9000 english at holiday camp now there would be one massive punch up and they would be slagging each other off

  • @darrenmania4306
    @darrenmania4306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not to good at being ordered about so ,
    This was proberly not my era

  • @MsMiamia2010
    @MsMiamia2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They look like prison camps

  • @janewagner1601
    @janewagner1601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These holiday camps need bringing back.