@@AK-pv3xeIn my experience compound movements like pull-ups do work wonders for muscle building though. Guess you should really just choose whichever exercise you like most, and do it with great intensity.
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I didn’t claim that pull ups were “better”. I simply prefer doing them as they’re more fun and are a compound movement. That said, I also work in lat pulldowns and they certainly have the benefits as mentioned in this video. Most importantly, train the way you wish to, there’s no right or wrong method 🙂
I used to not be able to pull myself up at all, now I’m doing 4-5. Just keep trying and make it a routine part of your workout if you’re doing workouts.
A person can use resistance bands or do other easier variations like Bodyweight rows for more volume for back workout. A person can use cluster sets for more volume . If a person wants to build muscle , The person can use drops sets . A person can also combine drop sets with cluster sets .
Legs in/ out inverted rows does the same thing. People have pulled entire stack on lat pull down but still couldn’t crank out 10 clean dead hang pull ups.
@@tvujtatata You are right a person can do lat pull downs , pull ups , both , whatever he/she wants to do but here the debate is for comparing and choosing which is the best option . I think training with both is the best option but I like pull ups more .
Don’t need to, you are overworking the muscle, which won’t give you any more significant results.If you can do them, pull ups and weighted pull ups are the way to go
@@David_Watts pull downs get such a bad rap for being "not optimal", but when I was 300 pounds and couldnt do a pull up, let alone hang, pulldowns helped me get to the point where I could do a pull up at 270. Both exercises are fine, do which ever one you actually like to do.
Idk why ppl have just a hatred for the lat pulldown I've always found a better mind muscle connection from Lat pulldown while being able to rep more than my bodyweight on it
@@edge3369that’s cuz pull ups are a genuinely hard exercise. And because it’s your bodyweight it’s hard to get to true muscular failure without limiting factors. Lat pull down and pull ups are both amazing so whichever works for you 💪
No one is superior to the other; both create tension in the muscles, which is the key factor. They are equally effective for hypertrophy (if that's your goal), just ensure you perform the required repetitions to transition into the hypertrophic range.
@@xmanofficial if you think weight makes one exercise better than the other, then you must be a total newbie in lifting, which is not bad though, but I'd advise you read more on the subject.
The amount of you people that think this is true, is mind boggling. Pull downs are used to more accurately focus on hitting your lats with the movement. You will most definitely use way more muscles, and tax your whole nervous system more doing pull ups.
Yeeeepppp.... This is what I thought about..... They are basically the same, but when you do Pull Ups, your pulling your whole body weight up.... Kudos to FitnessFAQs, always loved your content, bros. 🤘☯️🙏👊
My answer: BOTH. I begin my back days with pull-ups superset with rows. After a bunch of hammers strength exercises, I eventually end with lat pull down superset with straight arm pull downs.
Coming from a guy who couldn’t do 5 pull ups to 20 all in the same summer my advice is to use the side grips they’re a lot easier and will help you do regular pull ups and when you start to reach the end of your sets it doesn’t matter if you do half reps or help yourself up nearing the end of your set as long as you’re feeling the burn
If you guys want to improve your pullup volume, work on your arms and chest. The body is a perfect machine that works in harmony with itself. Think of it like the MW2 weapon system. In order to unlock one attatchment, you gotta level up a seperate weapon.
Love your info, bro. I'm learning so much off you. It will be 4 years since I've started training, and I'm 55 . I'm in the best shape of my life. I'm fitter now than my 20's 30's and40s, proving it's never too.
One thing I like to do is you start with pull-ups and you go till you just can't do any more really.in sets not all at once. Then you go over to pulldowns and you keep going, then you go to Rows and hyper extensions and end with some abs.
I completely agree with the theory, however (I think I speak for a lot of people) in my experience pull-ups are more effective. Or maybe you meant to only mean this in terms of back aesthetics or size, in which I think pull-ups still win for me, but maybe not for the vast majority of people. Thanks for the consistently trustworthy content!
Wow thank you, I will try some pulldowns because I struggle to pull up to my chest. I prefer callisthenics, but also I found it useful to include gym equipment when need to improve specific muscles
To reach your chest, do inverted row on rings instead. You can see vidéos about this on the fitnessfaq chanel. This is the only pull-up accessory exercice anybody needs. Lat pull down really are useless, except if you are 100% into bodybuilding and do not have any interest in calisthenics. Enjoy
@@god.usopp2yearsago115 why not both???????? you can easily build gains and strength by doing lat pull downs and is much easier. you are being ignorant for no reason lol
@@ruan441 obviously not everyone can do them, you have to start somewhere. Start with negatives and assisted pullups. Pull-downs are cool if you are going for a strictly bodybuilding perspective, which is probably what you mean by advanced people, advanced bodybuilders
Personally i go for pullups because it activates my core. Never do i get that core engagement with pulldowns but all movements and workouts will benefit you.
When I first started I used pull downs, I eventually was able to do pull-ups on the assisted machine and before long I was able to do them regularly. I even add weight now and I love pull-ups
@@naturalstrength8393 to be clear, I do pulldowns because they are harder than pullups without weight for me, and require less setup. Not sure how helpful they would be if you are doing less than bodyweight. Also it's 6-8 because I'm hitting failure on that 8th rep, and I cannot do another full set of eight after that.
Pull ups are the actual winner. Pull ups are an overall back building exercise. Pull downs are lat isolation exercise. They both lose to barbell pullovers though.
I do both. If i do pull ups on bar, my 2nd back exercise is cable row. On next training session I do barbell rows and lat pull downs. My back is never sore, I do a lot of volume (except pull ups, I prefer to add weights, keep it at 8 reps and do more sets than doing max reps without weights), my back got thicker and wider and stronger than ever.
Fact of the matter, what is the actual percentage of people who can do a consistent amount of pull-ups if any to actually gain muscle, so pull-downs for the majority of the people out there would be more beneficial because that's what they can do.
Calisthenics are always better overall for overall strength and functionality if you do them correctly. They just really suck and aren’t fun so I prefer hitting weights as I can do it way more often and don’t dread going into the gym to do it.
pulldowns isolate the muscles you are actually building, whereas pullups have increased fatigue from stabilising the core. the reason people can often do pulldowns at bodyweight but not actual pullups is because pullups have a lot of wasted energy through the rest of your body.
The thing with calisthenics is that, after mastering technique, there isn't much progressive overload and isolation, so you'll get in shape, sure, but it's not optimal specifically for muscle growth.
Both are great, but I find that like the smith machine for bench pressing, it is best to do pull ups first then lat pull downs after in order to best capitalise on the improved stability offered by lat pull downs to create a more complete stimulus for your back.
I like to pause for 2 seconds at the bottom of my pulldowns. I feel a massive contraction in my lower traps, as well. Helped me boost my numbers pretty quick.
If pullups provide you with the correct resistance, i.e. 4-10 reps then it's probably a good idea to do those. But the lat pulldown is never inferior to pullups. For me I find it better because I'd have to use weight to make pullups heavy enough so I just find it easier to jump onto the pulldown machine and do my couple heavy sets.
Pulldowns are also great if you're too weak/ too heavy to do pullups yet. It's the best pullup regression by far. Most other pullup "regressions" don't actually mimic the pullup movement pattern.
I can do pull ups but i prefer the lat pulldown. Because you're seated and that makes it easy to maintain body position relative to the pull. It also makes it easy to maintain the bar path. The cable keeps constant tension on the muscle. I like pull downs more because you can lean back and do a row combo.
warm up muscles with somewhat easy pull-downs, then transfer to pull-ups for full body weight. Then, if you’re up for it, return to pull-downs for some less-than-body-weight sets and/or partials.
My only back workout is pull-ups. I do them 3 times a week with 10 sets of 10 reps. Not saying this to brag but I've been complimented on my back and I tell people I only do pull-ups. Full range of motion is important, and sometimes I add variety by sticking out my chest, in an exaggerated fashion, and pull my chest to the bar, or close to it.
Weighted Pull-ups is king. the best for a wing eagle Lats. I tried both the Max lat pulldown and weighted pull-ups but I see only the weighted pull-ups as more efficient.
pull-ups are a test of strength endurance. To improve strength endurance you want to perform a movement across a variety of rep ranges. That means you should do a combination weighted pull-ups, bodyweight pull-ups, and machine pull-downs that lets you perform sets with reps across entire range of 1-30 reps/set.
To get betted at pull ups, you should do pull-ups. It's like, if I want to get better at bassball, play cricket. Obviously to get better at baseball, you have to play baseball.
When I first went to the gym I could barely do any weight in the pulldown, I then started doing calisthenics and tried to do pull ups, I could only do 1 pull up but then I realised my strength has increased and I could do more weight on the pull downs. Crazy how 1 pull up can change alot
If the goal is muscle hypertrophy you always have to go with weights. Because with bodyweight alone youll stagnate at some point because theres no progrrssive overload (unless your not gaining 5kg of bodyweight per week lol), which is something you CAN do with weightlifting, increase the weights progressively to keep the muscle growing constantly. Pull ups are great for other goals, too, just not continuous muscle hypertrophy.
Both build only lats, which is just a showoff muscle. There is no need to overdo pullups unless you particularly want big lats. 2sets of pullups followed by 4 to 5 of rows will develop a fit back and give you postural benefits.
Depends on your goals and how much you weigh, if the your weight is sufficient for to fail at your target rep range then do pulls ups, if not then do weights.
The people who use volume style don't really have a proper valid explanation to why it is done, it's not for hypertrophy rather for endurance, Sadly even in exercise science in universities it is taught that volume training builds muscle but it's not true , what builds muscle is intensity of effort to muscular failure in 1 to 2 sets, any more than that militates against muscle growth, it's not merely wasted effort it's "counter productive" again it's exactly what that prevents you from growing ". _Mike Mentzer If you can curl a 100lb barbell for 10 reps,the body has no reason to grow, it's only when you try that impossible 11th rep that you force yourself and the body seeks to protect itself from that stress by enlarging upon it's existing capacity so that no longer that 11th rep seems like a threat Mike Mentzer.
Don’t know why it’s so controversial. Pull-downs have a MUCH better eccentric motion, more stable, and more convenient to progressive overload. I can do 15-20 strict form pullups and still prefer pull-downs when available
Pull downs builds more upper body strength, while pull ups are better at building core strength That’s why pull downs don’t usually transfer well to pull ups, but pull ups helps with increasing your pull down strength
We forgot about the ac separations with this one, neither 🗿im doing rows, rdls, pushups, shrugs, and internal/external rotations safer for people with back and joint injuries pullups can cause more imbalances with torn ligaments
@@rishabhmalik5532 Yes , and I think pull up trains your arms more as compared to lat pull downs. And If someone wants to train back without arms getting fatigued , he/she can train with neutral grip also .
Yes they do, but lat pulldown are an accessory, you shouldnt rule them out that quickly, finishing off your workout with lat pulldowns to failure will be great, I personally just do it with resistance bands or regular pullups after a weighted pullup workout
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Pull-ups!!!! The win!
Not for hypertrophy since pull downs are basically the same movement but much more stable
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@@AK-pv3xeIn my experience compound movements like pull-ups do work wonders for muscle building though. Guess you should really just choose whichever exercise you like most, and do it with great intensity.
@@michaeld.4006 I just wanna get stronger what works better
@@motherrussiaIlIlIlIpull ups, safer and easier as well. Slow burn👍
Start with the pull up, finish off with the pull down
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I warm up with 2 series of assisted pull ups with progressive overload. Then I proced with 1 set until failure in the pull-down
Pull ups all day everyday!
How? That guy in the video just explained the advantages of pull downs. So how are pull-ups better like you claim?
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessshut up women
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessIt’s more fun
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I didn’t claim that pull ups were “better”. I simply prefer doing them as they’re more fun and are a compound movement.
That said, I also work in lat pulldowns and they certainly have the benefits as mentioned in this video.
Most importantly, train the way you wish to, there’s no right or wrong method 🙂
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessmore stabillity and engangement of the core compound movement and it is better for sports
When I'm finally able to do a pull-up, I'll be happy.
You got it!
I used to not be able to pull myself up at all, now I’m doing 4-5. Just keep trying and make it a routine part of your workout if you’re doing workouts.
When I was starting at 13 I did reverse pull, same with muscle ups. Now I'm clockin 20+ in a set (pull ups, I can only do like 5 clean muscle ups :/)
lose weight. 90% of people are stronger than me at almost any lift despite working out for a year now yet I can do 8-10 pull ups. im overweight too
Get in there and train, u got this 👏
I find that pulldowns work great as an accessory to pullups because the potetial to reduce load allows you to train at a higher volume as a beginner
A person can use resistance bands or do other easier variations like Bodyweight rows for more volume for back workout.
A person can use cluster sets for more volume .
If a person wants to build muscle , The person can use drops sets .
A person can also combine drop sets with cluster sets .
Legs in/ out inverted rows does the same thing. People have pulled entire stack on lat pull down but still couldn’t crank out 10 clean dead hang pull ups.
You can do that on pullups with resistance bands too. Pull ups are definitely better
@@Faizan-217 A person can also lat pull downs lmao.
@@tvujtatata You are right a person can do lat pull downs , pull ups , both , whatever he/she wants to do but here the debate is for comparing and choosing which is the best option . I think training with both is the best option but I like pull ups more .
No debate; DO BOTH 😝
Don’t need to, you are overworking the muscle, which won’t give you any more significant results.If you can do them, pull ups and weighted pull ups are the way to go
@@viktorradev1609 so no one should do lat pull-downs?
@@David_Watts pull downs get such a bad rap for being "not optimal", but when I was 300 pounds and couldnt do a pull up, let alone hang, pulldowns helped me get to the point where I could do a pull up at 270.
Both exercises are fine, do which ever one you actually like to do.
@@Megavars tell Viktor 😁😉
Are you able to understand what I’ve written?
Weighted calisthenics is the way.
Weighted dips and weighted pull ups are insanely good. Builds so many muscles all at once
Agree, however some people just aren’t able to
Then it ain't calisthenics
Pull ups make you evenly proportioned.
@@lucaalexicevaer-corey9167 weighted calis are still calis
lat pull-down was designed to help people that couldn’t do pull ups
And cable row was designed for people who didn't own a boat
@@DuBstep115😂😂😂
That would be me
Idk why ppl have just a hatred for the lat pulldown I've always found a better mind muscle connection from Lat pulldown while being able to rep more than my bodyweight on it
@@edge3369that’s cuz pull ups are a genuinely hard exercise. And because it’s your bodyweight it’s hard to get to true muscular failure without limiting factors. Lat pull down and pull ups are both amazing so whichever works for you 💪
PULL UPS! My favorite exercise of all time!!
Pulldowns definitely are the go-to for isolated lat hypertrophy. Pull ups are more fun though, but I always opt for pulldowns.
Lat puldowns helped my get to the point that I can do pullups, but now I think pullups are a little more beneficial, although both are pretty great
facts
A dynamic exercise is just more versatile,so pull ups win
No one is superior to the other; both create tension in the muscles, which is the key factor. They are equally effective for hypertrophy (if that's your goal), just ensure you perform the required repetitions to transition into the hypertrophic range.
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Beautifully said. It’s literally this simple
Yes one is. Pull ups are way harder to perform because you’re lifting your entire body weight up.
@@xmanofficial if you think weight makes one exercise better than the other, then you must be a total newbie in lifting, which is not bad though, but I'd advise you read more on the subject.
@@xmanofficialI can also pull my entire bodyweight in lat pulldowns so what's your point? In fact, I can greatly surpass my bodyweight.
Woohoo, the power collab we all needed.
Pull ups obviously. Pull downs are so you can develop the strength for the next progression, which is pull ups.
The amount of you people that think this is true, is mind boggling. Pull downs are used to more accurately focus on hitting your lats with the movement. You will most definitely use way more muscles, and tax your whole nervous system more doing pull ups.
@Uzi16_29 Yes that's true but lat pull downs are commonly suggested or used by those trying to progress to pullups
@@JoeSchmoeBrono they aren’t that would be assisted pull ups
@@Kcinthasun oh you right
If I can't pull-down my body weight yet does this mean I am not ready to do pull ups? I don't want to injure myself
Do both and your physique will thank you
This channel is solid gold! Straight to the point no nonsense valuable information. Well done. Great channel. Thank you for all the great content.
The collab we all needed
This is a repost...
Always pull ups first and then pull downs. Best combination ever
Yeeeepppp.... This is what I thought about..... They are basically the same, but when you do Pull Ups, your pulling your whole body weight up....
Kudos to FitnessFAQs, always loved your content, bros. 🤘☯️🙏👊
My answer: BOTH. I begin my back days with pull-ups superset with rows. After a bunch of hammers strength exercises, I eventually end with lat pull down superset with straight arm pull downs.
Coming from a guy who couldn’t do 5 pull ups to 20 all in the same summer my advice is to use the side grips they’re a lot easier and will help you do regular pull ups and when you start to reach the end of your sets it doesn’t matter if you do half reps or help yourself up nearing the end of your set as long as you’re feeling the burn
If you guys want to improve your pullup volume, work on your arms and chest. The body is a perfect machine that works in harmony with itself. Think of it like the MW2 weapon system. In order to unlock one attatchment, you gotta level up a seperate weapon.
Lat pulled downs have their place, but pull ups are the main course. kind of like bench press vs chest crunches.
Love your info, bro. I'm learning so much off you. It will be 4 years since I've started training, and I'm 55 . I'm in the best shape of my life. I'm fitter now than my 20's 30's and40s, proving it's never too.
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Let’s go with the Collab fellas! I’ve been watching both of you for years.
One thing I like to do is you start with pull-ups and you go till you just can't do any more really.in sets not all at once. Then you go over to pulldowns and you keep going, then you go to Rows and hyper extensions and end with some abs.
I completely agree with the theory, however (I think I speak for a lot of people) in my experience pull-ups are more effective. Or maybe you meant to only mean this in terms of back aesthetics or size, in which I think pull-ups still win for me, but maybe not for the vast majority of people. Thanks for the consistently trustworthy content!
Old vid but still great information
I love them both! 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Pull ups are the greatest exercise of all time I think.
Wow thank you, I will try some pulldowns because I struggle to pull up to my chest. I prefer callisthenics, but also I found it useful to include gym equipment when need to improve specific muscles
To reach your chest, do inverted row on rings instead. You can see vidéos about this on the fitnessfaq chanel. This is the only pull-up accessory exercice anybody needs. Lat pull down really are useless, except if you are 100% into bodybuilding and do not have any interest in calisthenics. Enjoy
Don’t do it. Pull ups are better than pulldowns in every single way. If pull ups are harder to start with, do negatives or use resistance bands.
@@god.usopp2yearsago115 why not both???????? you can easily build gains and strength by doing lat pull downs and is much easier. you are being ignorant for no reason lol
@@god.usopp2yearsago115 Quit elitism, not everyone can do pull ups. Even advanced people work with pulldowns.
@@ruan441 obviously not everyone can do them, you have to start somewhere. Start with negatives and assisted pullups. Pull-downs are cool if you are going for a strictly bodybuilding perspective, which is probably what you mean by advanced people, advanced bodybuilders
I tried pull up. I pulled the grip bar down
Extra stability ≠ more muscle growth
Personally i go for pullups because it activates my core. Never do i get that core engagement with pulldowns but all movements and workouts will benefit you.
When I first started I used pull downs, I eventually was able to do pull-ups on the assisted machine and before long I was able to do them regularly. I even add weight now and I love pull-ups
Pull-ups using various grip positions. Do pause reps and weighted pull-ups as well.
Actually Idk if pulldowns are the answer, pullups carry over to pulldowns but the opposite doesn't seem to be true
Training heavy pulldowns has greatly increased my max pullups.
It definitely does carry over.
@@WhyName What rep range do you train in? What handle do you use?
@@naturalstrength8393 6-8 and with a close supinated grip.
@@WhyName It's worth looking into, I'll give it a try sometime in the future
@@naturalstrength8393 to be clear, I do pulldowns because they are harder than pullups without weight for me, and require less setup. Not sure how helpful they would be if you are doing less than bodyweight.
Also it's 6-8 because I'm hitting failure on that 8th rep, and I cannot do another full set of eight after that.
Touching chest to bar on Chinups makes me feel more higher than cocaine,weed,LSG,heroine u name it!
Well... I will name injected beer, I found myself on top of a 5 story building after that, good times
wtf you can't inject beer@@JasonAizatoZemeckis
um..
Guess you've never done drugs 😂
intravenous beer sounds like something to do when you have a death wish
Pull ups are the actual winner. Pull ups are an overall back building exercise.
Pull downs are lat isolation exercise.
They both lose to barbell pullovers though.
I do both. If i do pull ups on bar, my 2nd back exercise is cable row. On next training session I do barbell rows and lat pull downs. My back is never sore, I do a lot of volume (except pull ups, I prefer to add weights, keep it at 8 reps and do more sets than doing max reps without weights), my back got thicker and wider and stronger than ever.
Fact of the matter, what is the actual percentage of people who can do a consistent amount of pull-ups if any to actually gain muscle, so pull-downs for the majority of the people out there would be more beneficial because that's what they can do.
When your strong enough, ur stable in both. I even have added weight in pull ups now. I am right now at +15kg with belt doing 10-15 reps
Calisthenics are always better overall for overall strength and functionality if you do them correctly. They just really suck and aren’t fun so I prefer hitting weights as I can do it way more often and don’t dread going into the gym to do it.
pulldowns isolate the muscles you are actually building, whereas pullups have increased fatigue from stabilising the core. the reason people can often do pulldowns at bodyweight but not actual pullups is because pullups have a lot of wasted energy through the rest of your body.
Reverse grip pull-ups are great for biceps
Yeah pull-ups are always 🔥 thanks for sharing fam!
The thing with calisthenics is that, after mastering technique, there isn't much progressive overload and isolation, so you'll get in shape, sure, but it's not optimal specifically for muscle growth.
Have you heard about weighted calisthenics?
People hate on Pulldowns but that the motion that helpped me to build up to pullups. I still do both to this day because why wouldn't you.
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Both are great, but I find that like the smith machine for bench pressing, it is best to do pull ups first then lat pull downs after in order to best capitalise on the improved stability offered by lat pull downs to create a more complete stimulus for your back.
Blooming brilliant. My favorite combo. The 1st of good form movement I was good at
I like how the calesthenics makes you feel challenged with relative difficulty and good results , that's why I choose calesthenics over gym anytime.
I like to pause for 2 seconds at the bottom of my pulldowns. I feel a massive contraction in my lower traps, as well. Helped me boost my numbers pretty quick.
I like both a lot, and do both on my back days!!
If pullups provide you with the correct resistance, i.e. 4-10 reps then it's probably a good idea to do those. But the lat pulldown is never inferior to pullups. For me I find it better because I'd have to use weight to make pullups heavy enough so I just find it easier to jump onto the pulldown machine and do my couple heavy sets.
Pulldowns are also great if you're too weak/ too heavy to do pullups yet. It's the best pullup regression by far. Most other pullup "regressions" don't actually mimic the pullup movement pattern.
I can do pull ups but i prefer the lat pulldown. Because you're seated and that makes it easy to maintain body position relative to the pull. It also makes it easy to maintain the bar path. The cable keeps constant tension on the muscle. I like pull downs more because you can lean back and do a row combo.
They both have their uses i like both
The pulldown is mainly for people who cannot do pullups or cannot do enough for a proper set with controlled reps.
Pull ups are the single coolest movement
Main difference: pull ups engage the core as well while pulls down is more centred on the superior part👌🏻
Another benefit to pull ups is the fact they are way more enjoyable and customisable. Enjoying your workout routine is a key factor in longevity
Customizeable* I'm a dumass
warm up muscles with somewhat easy pull-downs, then transfer to pull-ups for full body weight. Then, if you’re up for it, return to pull-downs for some less-than-body-weight sets and/or partials.
Weighted pull-ups + dropset bw pull-ups >
Pull-ups + dropset lat machine >
Lat machine + dropset less weight lat machine >
Body weight Pull-ups + negatives
I feel so much more stable with pullups
My only back workout is pull-ups. I do them 3 times a week with 10 sets of 10 reps. Not saying this to brag but I've been complimented on my back and I tell people I only do pull-ups. Full range of motion is important, and sometimes I add variety by sticking out my chest, in an exaggerated fashion, and pull my chest to the bar, or close to it.
I love pull ups but pull downs definitely helps my back look bigger
Weighted Pull-ups is king. the best for a wing eagle Lats. I tried both the Max lat pulldown and weighted pull-ups but I see only the weighted pull-ups as more efficient.
pull-ups are a test of strength endurance. To improve strength endurance you want to perform a movement across a variety of rep ranges. That means you should do a combination weighted pull-ups, bodyweight pull-ups, and machine pull-downs that lets you perform sets with reps across entire range of 1-30 reps/set.
Why not both?
They both have their place, do not underestimate either.
Both .... I do love pull ups though
The lat pull down will help you concentrate on proper form . Try both do both .
To get betted at pull ups, you should do pull-ups. It's like, if I want to get better at bassball, play cricket. Obviously to get better at baseball, you have to play baseball.
After 40 years in the gym the only guys I've ever seen do full range chinups were light boned ectomorphs.
pull downs to build back, pull ups to show back.
I like my hands being engaged rather than fully straightening them. Also lat pulls are my most machine exercise when in gym
When I first went to the gym I could barely do any weight in the pulldown, I then started doing calisthenics and tried to do pull ups, I could only do 1 pull up but then I realised my strength has increased and I could do more weight on the pull downs. Crazy how 1 pull up can change alot
Absolutely BOTH
My pulldown improved way more since integrated pull ups into my routine.
Assisted chin ups with a slow eccentric are also a really good way to build unassisted strength.
If the goal is muscle hypertrophy you always have to go with weights. Because with bodyweight alone youll stagnate at some point because theres no progrrssive overload (unless your not gaining 5kg of bodyweight per week lol), which is something you CAN do with weightlifting, increase the weights progressively to keep the muscle growing constantly. Pull ups are great for other goals, too, just not continuous muscle hypertrophy.
1. Increase reps.
2. Add weight.
3. Change angle e.g. L-hang pull ups.
You're wrong.
Both build only lats, which is just a showoff muscle. There is no need to overdo pullups unless you particularly want big lats.
2sets of pullups followed by 4 to 5 of rows will develop a fit back and give you postural benefits.
They do not only build lats dummy😂😂
Depends on your goals and how much you weigh, if the your weight is sufficient for to fail at your target rep range then do pulls ups, if not then do weights.
The people who use volume style don't really have a proper valid explanation to why it is done, it's not for hypertrophy rather for endurance,
Sadly even in exercise science in universities it is taught that volume training builds muscle but it's not true , what builds muscle is intensity of effort to muscular failure in 1 to 2 sets, any more than that militates against muscle growth, it's not merely wasted effort it's "counter productive" again it's exactly what that prevents you from growing ". _Mike Mentzer
If you can curl a 100lb barbell for 10 reps,the body has no reason to grow, it's only when you try that impossible 11th rep that you force yourself and the body seeks to protect itself from that stress by enlarging upon it's existing capacity so that no longer that 11th rep seems like a threat
Mike Mentzer.
Don’t know why it’s so controversial. Pull-downs have a MUCH better eccentric motion, more stable, and more convenient to progressive overload.
I can do 15-20 strict form pullups and still prefer pull-downs when available
Doing pull up is a sign of strength. Dont do machines guys
I used to do pull downs but once I did pull ups game changer you’ll turn into a monster physically
⚠️Brooo you got they fucking demon back !!!! ⚠️
Pull downs builds more upper body strength, while pull ups are better at building core strength
That’s why pull downs don’t usually transfer well to pull ups, but pull ups helps with increasing your pull down strength
Abs are supposed to stabilise your body so pulldown aren't more stable if you have good core strength and for volume just do weighted pull ups
Both are good for me
We forgot about the ac separations with this one, neither 🗿im doing rows, rdls, pushups, shrugs, and internal/external rotations safer for people with back and joint injuries pullups can cause more imbalances with torn ligaments
So you want to say that we have to add more stability during pull ups, so it will be more challenging, hence pull up wins
Pull ups help gain more strength as compared to the lat pull down ,
And a person can train his arms for pull ups for less fatigue .
@@Faizan-217 and when arms will become strong enough then back also will start growing up
@@rishabhmalik5532 Yes , and I think pull up trains your arms more as compared to lat pull downs. And If someone wants to train back without arms getting fatigued , he/she can train with neutral grip also .
Yes they do, but lat pulldown are an accessory, you shouldnt rule them out that quickly, finishing off your workout with lat pulldowns to failure will be great, I personally just do it with resistance bands or regular pullups after a weighted pullup workout
@@rishabhmalik5532yeah and lat pulldowns are mostly back
Want big back - Pullups, pulldowns, rows
Do both. Alternate which one you do first. Then you miss nothing. 😀
I dont really even do pull downs. When my back gets fatigued from pullups, i just add a band for assistance.
Definitely pull-ups! They may not be better for overall lat hypertrophy but more productive
While doing pull-ups I tend to raise like I'm doing leg raises, dunno why I make it more complicated 😂