I can understand the changes from a balanced game perspective, however I can't agree that the arcane golem doesn't attack air units. it's just ridiculous, since a bunch of flying scrats make you high counter to a spell deck for milloween. 4 unit attack range is terrible. no matter how much life the golem has, it is overshadowed by the low range.
The changes were to make the golem have some weaknesses such as the inability to hit air and shorter range, therefore making you include options to support the golem in the areas it struggles in. The changes were for balance but not because she was too strong overall just that her versatile golem allowed her to support a lot of brainless cheese strategies.
@BadAsAFish80 Really sucks that you know a lot of people are upset about these nerfs but what's worse is you try to defend it like it was a good decision.
I just don't really see the reason for this change, the range on the arcane golem is going to make it suffer a lot. It's equal to a crystal sentry and the crystal sentry without marksmanship feels like a melee minion in practice
I think the change was designed to make it suffer in these situations since it was basically strong in all situations and now needs some weaknesses to be in a better balanced state.
I think the new charges system is not the main issue, i like the new system, it bring me something new. But i am not quite sure about the changing of Arcane Golem can't hit a flying targets is a good idea. Nerf the Arcane Golem's attack range have already reduced her strike effect on flying targets. I enjoy feeding Arcane Golem and this is her role positioning. I hope she could have a nice balance on next pack. 努力,加油,謝謝
Well according to the stats she has a very high win rate so in her current iteration she is very strong even when not being able to hit air. Expect nerfs not buffs going forward.
playing 1 game and saying millo is not dead wont work, i think shes way worse. I think the rework was neat but i just dont get why it happened. I dont think millo needed this
I may have showed one game but I won plenty against top players and top strategies. I think the rework was required not because of her strength but how her cheap powerful do it all golem really empowered cheese strategies.
@@Badasafish80 She's no longer fun. Wish you guys would have buffed other masters vs all these nerfs we get patch after patch. I don't even know who i want to play anymore.
Sorry to hear that. Personally I find her even more fun to play than previously, especially when everyone is calling her dead when clearly she isn't. I've even seen a friend of mine playing this deck I made in solos and he is #1 on the leaderboard. It wasn't simply a case that she needed nerfing, if you watched my Minion Masters Meta video (th-cam.com/video/WETEY0F3Z6w/w-d-xo.html) you will have seen she didn't feature heavily on any of the leaderboards. The issue with her do-everything Arcane Golem that gets buffed by spells meant she was the go to master for a lot of cheese strategies, think Spawn of Fury + Colossus where you basically run the deck without anti-air since you know you get this 2 mana golem that will scale with your support spells and kill everything. This is a much healthier iteration albeit a bit too strong overall currently.
@@Badasafish80 Yeah i guess you make sense. The range nerf was sad but after playing and experimenting more i found out how fun she can still be. I really enjoy the fact that you can start using spells before perk 1 and the spells will count towards the first golems levels. Its fun counting the amount of spells and as i like to call it "cooking" the next golem whilst another golem is still on the field
@@Badasafish80 Easy for you to say, you get paid for it. But for us players, you're ruining the game with these nerfs. For all we know your friend could be a moderator. And are you implying that we should play that deck? How is that fun? Copy pasting people's build..
Sorry but I also have to disagree with you on multiple points. The fact that you need to spend multiple spells in order to support your signature perk unit to make it viable it´s nothing to brag about. Not to mention that the golem range is now a joke :/ why should I play a master with a weak Golem unit when I can play another master coupled with a 3 mana melee minion, that has almost the same stats and power. I mainly play here in 2 v 2 and I´m sorry to confirm that she´s as good as dead.
No need to apologise for disagreeing, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm forward looking to this months Minion Masters Meta video to see if Milloween shows in it. Interesting to see Milloween decks #1 in 1v1 leaderboard and #2 in the 2v2 one.
@@Badasafish80 I didn´t expect that to be honest. Maybe people found a way to use her Golem in ways that I´m not aware of. I guess I need to learn more and adapt. Thanks for the great contet anyway
Played against her plenty. Seems very strong in 1v1 especially. The old version of pumping her up seems more fun, and having a signature ranged unit that can’t look up leads to annoying deck building. Does not appeal to me, but she is good.
In every game people declare that X is dead after a change. Gotta let everyone understand that you know everything about the game, even when you can't possibly have data to support it. Then, when it's inevitably shown that X isn't dead, you just move on to the next hot take. People are funny. Great video, as always.
I can understand the changes from a balanced game perspective, however I can't agree that the arcane golem doesn't attack air units. it's just ridiculous, since a bunch of flying scrats make you high counter to a spell deck for milloween. 4 unit attack range is terrible. no matter how much life the golem has, it is overshadowed by the low range.
The changes were to make the golem have some weaknesses such as the inability to hit air and shorter range, therefore making you include options to support the golem in the areas it struggles in. The changes were for balance but not because she was too strong overall just that her versatile golem allowed her to support a lot of brainless cheese strategies.
@@Badasafish80 Yes, I suppose, you're right, so is the change final or is it just a test this season?
@@PixelBoyYT Hope it's a test. This is horrible.
@@ryuken4065 Yes, I really think the same, milloween into a single deck archetype will not only be boring, but terrible for the teacher in general.
@BadAsAFish80 Really sucks that you know a lot of people are upset about these nerfs but what's worse is you try to defend it like it was a good decision.
I just don't really see the reason for this change, the range on the arcane golem is going to make it suffer a lot. It's equal to a crystal sentry and the crystal sentry without marksmanship feels like a melee minion in practice
I think the change was designed to make it suffer in these situations since it was basically strong in all situations and now needs some weaknesses to be in a better balanced state.
Ayyy thanks for making this :D
My pleasure, thanks for watching it!
wp fish, vortex helped a lot
Thanks!
Except for one, all my 2v2 random matches were losses with Milloween teammate.
I think the new charges system is not the main issue, i like the new system, it bring me something new.
But i am not quite sure about the changing of Arcane Golem can't hit a flying targets is a good idea.
Nerf the Arcane Golem's attack range have already reduced her strike effect on flying targets.
I enjoy feeding Arcane Golem and this is her role positioning. I hope she could have a nice balance on next pack.
努力,加油,謝謝
Well according to the stats she has a very high win rate so in her current iteration she is very strong even when not being able to hit air. Expect nerfs not buffs going forward.
I think I like the direction of this change but it feels a bit underpowered if that makes sense
I think you just need to adjust how you play her.
@@Badasafish80 Probably correct, I didnt play har much before her rework but the update sounded interesting. I havent tried it in 1v1 yet
Did you try her this season yet? Any thoughts?
Melovin died, so I like neat little patches more than changing something radically.
Milloween lives!
@@Badasafish80 Let's hope so.
playing 1 game and saying millo is not dead wont work, i think shes way worse. I think the rework was neat but i just dont get why it happened. I dont think millo needed this
I may have showed one game but I won plenty against top players and top strategies. I think the rework was required not because of her strength but how her cheap powerful do it all golem really empowered cheese strategies.
@@Badasafish80 She's no longer fun. Wish you guys would have buffed other masters vs all these nerfs we get patch after patch. I don't even know who i want to play anymore.
Sorry to hear that. Personally I find her even more fun to play than previously, especially when everyone is calling her dead when clearly she isn't. I've even seen a friend of mine playing this deck I made in solos and he is #1 on the leaderboard. It wasn't simply a case that she needed nerfing, if you watched my Minion Masters Meta video (th-cam.com/video/WETEY0F3Z6w/w-d-xo.html) you will have seen she didn't feature heavily on any of the leaderboards. The issue with her do-everything Arcane Golem that gets buffed by spells meant she was the go to master for a lot of cheese strategies, think Spawn of Fury + Colossus where you basically run the deck without anti-air since you know you get this 2 mana golem that will scale with your support spells and kill everything. This is a much healthier iteration albeit a bit too strong overall currently.
@@Badasafish80 Yeah i guess you make sense. The range nerf was sad but after playing and experimenting more i found out how fun she can still be. I really enjoy the fact that you can start using spells before perk 1 and the spells will count towards the first golems levels. Its fun counting the amount of spells and as i like to call it "cooking" the next golem whilst another golem is still on the field
@@Badasafish80 Easy for you to say, you get paid for it. But for us players, you're ruining the game with these nerfs. For all we know your friend could be a moderator. And are you implying that we should play that deck? How is that fun? Copy pasting people's build..
dead as a fish out of the tank
:upsidedownfishemojii:
Sorry but I also have to disagree with you on multiple points. The fact that you need to spend multiple spells in order to support your signature perk unit to make it viable it´s nothing to brag about. Not to mention that the golem range is now a joke :/ why should I play a master with a weak Golem unit when I can play another master coupled with a 3 mana melee minion, that has almost the same stats and power. I mainly play here in 2 v 2 and I´m sorry to confirm that she´s as good as dead.
No need to apologise for disagreeing, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm forward looking to this months Minion Masters Meta video to see if Milloween shows in it.
Interesting to see Milloween decks #1 in 1v1 leaderboard and #2 in the 2v2 one.
@@Badasafish80 I didn´t expect that to be honest. Maybe people found a way to use her Golem in ways that I´m not aware of. I guess I need to learn more and adapt. Thanks for the great contet anyway
I think people just wrote her off after reading the changes without actually trying to adapt and play her, but that is what I'm here for :D
Played against her plenty. Seems very strong in 1v1 especially. The old version of pumping her up seems more fun, and having a signature ranged unit that can’t look up leads to annoying deck building. Does not appeal to me, but she is good.
She definitely seems strong and from the stats I saw a dev mention in the MM Discord she is performing very well despite everyone calling her "dead".
In every game people declare that X is dead after a change. Gotta let everyone understand that you know everything about the game, even when you can't possibly have data to support it. Then, when it's inevitably shown that X isn't dead, you just move on to the next hot take. People are funny. Great video, as always.
Thanks!