Thank you so much! In half an hour you showed me everything about Avenger. Avenger is an incredible synthesizer and has a great sound.I have Pigments, and in Pigments I can't create such fat sounds as Avenger, although the settings are almost the same.Avenger is very intuitive, I can see all the actions I have done with modulations or changes. Many good synthesizers don't have this feature, and have to memorize where which modulation is attached to what. Avenger's pop-ups are very convenient and not annoying. I am sure it will become my best synthesizer.
Hi Reaper. I have a few questions if you don't mind. 1. In your opinion, what are the minimum CPU, RAM, and storage requirements to use all the capabilities of this synth? 2. Does this synth work with the new Apple M1 chip that's in the latest MacBooks & iMac? 3. I may be interested in using this synth in live performances. Is there a song mode, or a way of switching between presets (intro, verse, chorus, etc) Thanks!
What a great review!! And I totally agree, the power and options in this is mind numbing. My favorite things about this tool is the arp and sequencers (drums and synth). Just unbelievable quality. And those expansions! You seriously can just stop with this ONE synth and do everything. Should you buy it?? A big YES. :)
@@beatlabacademy yes i got home early we worked half a day. It took me from 3pm till 7 pm to get everything setup correctly but man it is a absolute beast!
Really enjoyed this review. Very informative and very positive. I own Avenger and I love it and also the Expansion Packs. Yes i would love to see any more reviews that you do on Avenger or it's XP's. Thank you 😃
It seamed promising when it came out. But what are the downsides of it? How does it stock up against compaditors? Why does it matter if you have everything in one synth? What are the licensing issues? This kind of questions.
Great video! Avenger has slowly taken over all my other synths ( barring pigments 3 for atmospheric sounds) and avenger, nexus 3 and lethal are my current go two's, loads of top quality sounds with just so much to make multiple tracks off. I di more hard dance style edm so this for me is perfect!!
My two most crazy synth are Avenger and Kilohearts Phase Plant : you should try Phase Plant it's at least equally crazy than avenger but maybe the modular way.
Buyer beware VPS Avenger requires you to renew your license every 90 days ! If you use soft synths for live performance you will be surprised like I was when it suddenly doesn't work and you have to go thru a convoluted process to renew it. Then if you decide it is too much of a PIA and go to sell it they charge you $36 to transfer the license !!
Hi Beat Lab, I agree, Avenger is awesome beyond words! But can you help me out with something on your video from 8:40....? I can't hear the difference the Phase control is making to my saw wave like yours does. Can you tell me what other settings you have going on? Hovering over the control it says that the 'phase lock has to be set to lock'? Thanks!
As a loyal customer, I have Metrum, FX collection and Phalanx but they do not offer loyalty point. They do not give you anything if you are a loyal customer. So I wont buy their products anymore. I think they are not ready to become a big company. I own other products from other companies and they do offer so much discounts, loyalty points etc.
Used a friends copy and I absolutely love this thing....too expensive. I have a rule...I will not spend more than 50 dollars for a single piece of software. I did it big time when I got Omnisphere, Trillian and Keyscape in a two week period. My wife was not happy.......who am I kidding, she was pissed.
Do you have to buy expansion packs or is the base product worth the $120 price? I'm looking at doing their recent promotion to pay over one year, like $10 a month. But I don't like products that you have to buy all the expansions to get good sounds.
Don't buy the Avenger Synth if your intention is to use it commercially, because you simply CAN'T • You are authorized to use the Licensed Materials only for personal use. This means that you are only allowed to use the Licensed Materials for your own personal use and not for commercial purposes. Have fun at home!
@@jimshannononsounds i own Avenger, Spire, Sylenth 1, Both Synthmasters, Massive, Korg M1 and a load of effects plugs, i use Spire the most, then Avenger you need a powerful computer for avenger, its a monster! (i don't mess with pirated plugins, all my software is paid for)
A lot less cold that Serum when I compared them both - just run the output through a bit of tube saturation and maybe a tiiiny bit if chorus and you're good to go. If you really want analogue unpredictability, route a random LFO to pitch just by a couple of cents
You have to get their permission to send it to a label but they can charge you a fee for allowing this. They could also get a percentage of your sales too. Let it go to court and I bet a judge would say they can't enforce certain agreements because its unconstitutional and against your human right's. Its like buying writing software but you need their permission to send your writing to publishers. A judge would laugh it our of court I know he would.
@@darrenhirst9900 I have been researching the topic and 90% of the statement applies to the fact that you can't create a library with the VPS sounds and sell it. The other 10% is that you can't use the default sequences as they are, you can modify them a bit from the arpeggiator and so on and you have no limitation of use. The same with the sounds, the use is unlimited if you have bought the plugin. It would be 'fraud' if you bought a musical instrument and you couldn't use its sounds, wouldn't it? It happens that the VPS is oriented to the DJ environment in Europe and there is little purchase and much exchange between DJ friends, nobody wants to pay for the loops that are then used in songs that are played in expensive dance clubs, that said, use the VPS as any other sound plugin, the sky is the limit! Good 2023! Version 2 is coming and it's awesome!
@@chrissneider7550 2 Under the Licence you may not and shall not, without Our express written authorization: - own title, or transfer title to the Licenced Materials to another party; - transfer the Licence; remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the Licenced Materials; - distribute, or sublicense or otherwise provide copies of or access to the Licenced Materials to any third party; - pledge, hypothecate, alienate or otherwise encumber the Licenced Materials to any third party; - create derivative works of, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, adapt, translate, transmit, arrange, modify, copy, bundle, sell, sublicense, export, merge, transfer, adapt, loan, rent, lease, assign, share, outsource, host, publish, make available to any person or otherwise use, either directly or indirectly, the Licenced Materials; permit, allow or do anything that would infringe or otherwise prejudice the proprietary rights of Us or Our licensors; - circumvent, remove, alter or otherwise impair any technological protection measures, digital rights management information, or other copy-protection mechanisms used in or by the Licenced Materials; - or include, use, re-sample, mix, process, isolate or embed any content from the Licenced Library in any virtual instrument, audio sampling system, audio playback system or library of any kind, other than those provided or authorized by Us. - commercially use any compositions, melodies, melody-loops, lyrics, and vocal-samples or parts hereof from any Vengeance Samples or Audio Plugin Libraries. All rights on melodies, musical compositions, lyrics, vocals, and melody-loops included in Vengeance Samples or Audio Plugin Libraries are owned by Us and are reserved.
This synth is kind of strange because on the one hand it's kind of good but on the other hand it's bad at the same time. Although the regular price is EUR 199,- there are a lot of second hand offers and the sellers won't be able to get rid of it for even EUR 99,- (the seller has to additionally pay EUR 35,- transfer fee, so he won't be even getting EUR 65,- total!). There must be a reason for people want to get rid of it. I gave that synth a try...2 times and ended selling it again. I cant really say what that is but I guess the overall experience...the GUI looks old fashioned, the sounds do not impress at all, the expansions are overpriced. Do yourself a favor and test before buy!
Iv come to the conclusion that when it comes to using this as a synth like one would serum, its weak. Not cuz of features but because its sound isnt as sharp and loud and clean as a synth like serum. However where this thing is unrivaled (besideds uvi falcon because that is a winner in every category and its not even close) is in its sampling capabilities. The way you can manipulate a sample in avenger is absolutely insane and top notch
@@beatleseternally1170 fully agreed, and I feel while I don't want to disrespect anyone else, YOU KNOW what you're talking about. this synth is out of this galaxy, and when you just start to peel it back even a little bit, amazing!.
Yes, VPS Avenger is a strange case, some people think is good, but looking through the many forums and review sites, a not so favorable image emerges. Sadly, I didn’t make all this research until after I had made the mistake of buying it. First, I concluded that most if not all of the positive reviews are made by TH-camrs who might be more interested in clicks for their affiliate links; or others such as in this case who are looking to sell online courses. I’ll tell you the huge problem affecting VPSAvenger, and is a fact well concealed by everyone reviewing it, you didn’t hear it on this video or anywhere else, and most people don’t discover it after they start using it. I became aware during the first five minutes after installation. The problem has a name and the name is: CodeMeter. In order for VPS Avenger to run in your computer the CodeMeter app needs to be running in your system as an anti-piracy measure. CodeMeter takes up residence in your System Preferences pane and runs continuously, even when you are not using Avenger. Read the CodeMeter Users Agreement, look at your System Preferences pane, look at your Activity Monitor. It’s terrifying. People got to be nuts to install this spy-ware in their systems. On top of that, with my system running Mac OS Catalina 10.15.5 and Logic Pro X 10.5.0, I was getting all kinds of warnings and notifications to contact the VPS Avenger developer to solve the problem, but it was never solved. In conclusion: Yes, a whole lot of people are trying to resale it. and Yes, VPSAvenger is way over-priced. The graphic design is not HD, the factory presets are ancient and the expansion preset packs are too expensive. Also, be careful with the VPS Avenger so-called technical support, they will offer laughable advise such as “Use Google Chrome” or “Yes, we strongly recommend against doing that, but go ahead and do that.” Also, they will either ignore you or actually block you. For me, it was a $199.00 USD mistake, which I think I’ll never recover.
Its a Vengence Sound product. All their stuff is pretty expensive. Tho it works and Vengeance Sound has made some of the worlds most popular soundpacks; Vengeance Essential Clubsounds 1-5.
To the question of Should I buy it? I would answer: Most definitely NOT! VPS Avenger has morphed into a useless over-designed synth wanna be. Very low definition GUI, ancient factory presets, loaded with duplicate inferior modules such as step sequencer, mixer and arp, easily surpassed in functionality by the ones you already find on your DAW. Plus, it NEVER works consistently. Don't be mislead by the youtubers reviewing a demo version of the synth, it's a whole lot different than a fully licensed version. And worse, these reviewers never tell you that in order to use Avenger, you need to be running the CodeMeter app, a real source of constant headaches. Do yourself a favor and don't come anywhere close to VPS Avenger.
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Thank you so much! In half an hour you showed me everything about Avenger. Avenger is an incredible synthesizer and has a great sound.I have Pigments, and in Pigments I can't create such fat sounds as Avenger, although the settings are almost the same.Avenger is very intuitive, I can see all the actions I have done with modulations or changes. Many good synthesizers don't have this feature, and have to memorize where which modulation is attached to what.
Avenger's pop-ups are very convenient and not annoying.
I am sure it will become my best synthesizer.
Avenger is my main synth ever since I bought it.
Hi Reaper. I have a few questions if you don't mind.
1. In your opinion, what are the minimum CPU, RAM, and storage requirements to use all the capabilities of this synth?
2. Does this synth work with the new Apple M1 chip that's in the latest MacBooks & iMac?
3. I may be interested in using this synth in live performances. Is there a song mode, or a way of switching between presets (intro, verse, chorus, etc) Thanks!
What a great review!! And I totally agree, the power and options in this is mind numbing. My favorite things about this tool is the arp and sequencers (drums and synth). Just unbelievable quality. And those expansions! You seriously can just stop with this ONE synth and do everything. Should you buy it?? A big YES. :)
Check out our new online learning modules!
www.beatlabacademy.com/modules
Best Avenger overview ever! Thank you 💪
Omg I bought it this morning but had to go to work 😫 its killllllllling me! Can't wait to get home!
Oh man, did you get back home?
@@beatlabacademy yes i got home early we worked half a day. It took me from 3pm till 7 pm to get everything setup correctly but man it is a absolute beast!
Really enjoyed this review. Very informative and very positive. I own Avenger and I love it and also the Expansion Packs. Yes i would love to see any more reviews that you do on Avenger or it's XP's. Thank you 😃
already bought it for 50%off on last christmas sale and man, im speechless!
It’s so good
Yea.... it's so remarkable!!! I love it so much!!!!
Thank you
It seamed promising when it came out. But what are the downsides of it? How does it stock up against compaditors? Why does it matter if you have everything in one synth? What are the licensing issues? This kind of questions.
Great video! Avenger has slowly taken over all my other synths ( barring pigments 3 for atmospheric sounds) and avenger, nexus 3 and lethal are my current go two's, loads of top quality sounds with just so much to make multiple tracks off. I di more hard dance style edm so this for me is perfect!!
My two most crazy synth are Avenger and Kilohearts Phase Plant : you should try Phase Plant it's at least equally crazy than avenger but maybe the modular way.
Buyer beware VPS Avenger requires you to renew your license every 90
days ! If you use soft synths for live performance you will be surprised
like I was when it suddenly doesn't work and you have to go thru a
convoluted process to renew it. Then if you decide it is too much of a
PIA and go to sell it they charge you $36 to transfer the license !!
This is no longer true with the new update. They switch systems
Can’t manage to reactivate, i spend month crafting sound, paid top dollars and then the vst won’t open going in endless loops…i am so frustrated
@@beatlabacademy "is no longer true"...and how would it work now? Do you activate it and it is registered forever? I have my doubts...
@@beatlabacademy Yes it is!!! Confirmed, I had to 're-fresh' my Avenger lisence last Friday, every 90 days is mandatory...wtf ?? 😠
@@beatlabacademy Is this still the case - do you still have to update every 90 days?
Thanks for this nice demo! ;)
Great video my man. Thank you.
Hi Beat Lab, I agree, Avenger is awesome beyond words! But can you help me out with something on your video from 8:40....? I can't hear the difference the Phase control is making to my saw wave like yours does. Can you tell me what other settings you have going on? Hovering over the control it says that the 'phase lock has to be set to lock'? Thanks!
As a loyal customer, I have Metrum, FX collection and Phalanx but they do not offer loyalty point. They do not give you anything if you are a loyal customer. So I wont buy their products anymore. I think they are not ready to become a big company. I own other products from other companies and they do offer so much discounts, loyalty points etc.
Used a friends copy and I absolutely love this thing....too expensive.
I have a rule...I will not spend more than 50 dollars for a single piece of software.
I did it big time when I got Omnisphere, Trillian and Keyscape in a two week period.
My wife was not happy.......who am I kidding, she was pissed.
Haha yes. sometimes around the holidays plugins are on sale.
Do you have to buy expansion packs or is the base product worth the $120 price? I'm looking at doing their recent promotion to pay over one year, like $10 a month. But I don't like products that you have to buy all the expansions to get good sounds.
thanks
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Don't buy the Avenger Synth if your intention is to use it commercially, because you simply CAN'T
• You are authorized to use the Licensed Materials only for personal use.
This means that you are only allowed to use the Licensed Materials for your own personal use and not for commercial purposes.
Have fun at home!
Kinda never understood why they didn't just make it a daw instead of keeping in a synth container lol
Thank you so much for this insightful video
אהבתי
Which website to buy it?
Right now plug-in boutique has a 50% off sale.
the avenger AA (arts acoustic) reverb alone is worth the price of the entire synth. i'm gonna stop here.
I don't need it, but I want it. Would like to see more please.
let me guess, you use serum so u think you don't need any other synth? Avenger smashes serum to pieces
@@rocca717 I have Serum's demo version. I'm aware of the others, Hive, Avenger, Ana, Pigments 2, etc. Hard to justify buying any synths right now.
Jim Shannon on Sounds Also look at Spire, That vst blows my mind
@@rocca717 There's a lot of good synths crowding the market.
@@jimshannononsounds i own Avenger, Spire, Sylenth 1, Both Synthmasters, Massive, Korg M1 and a load of effects plugs, i use Spire the most, then Avenger you need a powerful computer for avenger, its a monster! (i don't mess with pirated plugins, all my software is paid for)
"just crazy stuff" :P
Is it just me or does the Synth sound very cold? Analogue sounds way better.
Anima Libera - Can’t tell if trolling.
A lot less cold that Serum when I compared them both - just run the output through a bit of tube saturation and maybe a tiiiny bit if chorus and you're good to go. If you really want analogue unpredictability, route a random LFO to pitch just by a couple of cents
A mix of french and german accent?;)
Haha kind of. That is a good description of an Israeli accent
No you should have already bought it lmao
😅😂
You have to get their permission to send it to a label but they can charge you a fee for allowing this. They could also get a percentage of your sales too.
Let it go to court and I bet a judge would say they can't enforce certain agreements because its unconstitutional and against your human right's.
Its like buying writing software but you need their permission to send your writing to publishers. A judge would laugh it our of court I know he would.
Also torrent the dam thing then all you get done for it copyright breach😂
@@darrenhirst9900 I have been researching the topic and 90% of the statement applies to the fact that you can't create a library with the VPS sounds and sell it. The other 10% is that you can't use the default sequences as they are, you can modify them a bit from the arpeggiator and so on and you have no limitation of use. The same with the sounds, the use is unlimited if you have bought the plugin. It would be 'fraud' if you bought a musical instrument and you couldn't use its sounds, wouldn't it? It happens that the VPS is oriented to the DJ environment in Europe and there is little purchase and much exchange between DJ friends, nobody wants to pay for the loops that are then used in songs that are played in expensive dance clubs, that said, use the VPS as any other sound plugin, the sky is the limit! Good 2023! Version 2 is coming and it's awesome!
@@darrenhirst9900 😂😂😂
@@chrissneider7550 2 Under the Licence you may not and shall not, without Our express written authorization:
- own title, or transfer title to the Licenced Materials to another party;
- transfer the Licence; remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the Licenced Materials;
- distribute, or sublicense or otherwise provide copies of or access to the Licenced Materials to any third party;
- pledge, hypothecate, alienate or otherwise encumber the Licenced Materials to any third party;
- create derivative works of, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, adapt, translate, transmit, arrange, modify, copy, bundle, sell, sublicense, export, merge, transfer, adapt, loan, rent, lease, assign, share, outsource, host, publish, make available to any person or otherwise use, either directly or indirectly, the Licenced Materials; permit, allow or do anything that would infringe or otherwise prejudice the proprietary rights of Us or Our licensors;
- circumvent, remove, alter or otherwise impair any technological protection measures, digital rights management information, or other copy-protection mechanisms used in or by the Licenced Materials;
- or include, use, re-sample, mix, process, isolate or embed any content from the Licenced Library in any virtual instrument, audio sampling system, audio playback system or library of any kind, other than those provided or authorized by Us.
- commercially use any compositions, melodies, melody-loops, lyrics, and vocal-samples or parts hereof from any Vengeance Samples or Audio Plugin Libraries. All rights on melodies, musical compositions, lyrics, vocals, and melody-loops included in Vengeance Samples or Audio Plugin Libraries are owned by Us and are reserved.
I can't buy it, I've already spent all my money on other plugins!
Matamdaber chtouilllotttt !!!
😅😅😅😅
This synth is kind of strange because on the one hand it's kind of good but on the other hand it's bad at the same time. Although the regular price is EUR 199,- there are a lot of second hand offers and the sellers won't be able to get rid of it for even EUR 99,- (the seller has to additionally pay EUR 35,- transfer fee, so he won't be even getting EUR 65,- total!). There must be a reason for people want to get rid of it. I gave that synth a try...2 times and ended selling it again. I cant really say what that is but I guess the overall experience...the GUI looks old fashioned, the sounds do not impress at all, the expansions are overpriced. Do yourself a favor and test before buy!
Thank you for your input. We really enjoy this synth. Especially it’s endless list of features
Iv come to the conclusion that when it comes to using this as a synth like one would serum, its weak. Not cuz of features but because its sound isnt as sharp and loud and clean as a synth like serum. However where this thing is unrivaled (besideds uvi falcon because that is a winner in every category and its not even close) is in its sampling capabilities. The way you can manipulate a sample in avenger is absolutely insane and top notch
@@beatleseternally1170 fully agreed, and I feel while I don't want to disrespect anyone else, YOU KNOW what you're talking about. this synth is out of this galaxy, and when you just start to peel it back even a little bit, amazing!.
Yes, VPS Avenger is a strange case, some people think is good, but looking through the many forums and review sites, a not so favorable image emerges. Sadly, I didn’t make all this research until after I had made the mistake of buying it.
First, I concluded that most if not all of the positive reviews are made by TH-camrs who might be more interested in clicks for their affiliate links; or others such as in this case who are looking to sell online courses.
I’ll tell you the huge problem affecting VPSAvenger, and is a fact well concealed by everyone reviewing it, you didn’t hear it on this video or anywhere else, and most people don’t discover it after they start using it. I became aware during the first five minutes after installation.
The problem has a name and the name is: CodeMeter. In order for VPS Avenger to run in your computer the CodeMeter app needs to be running in your system as an anti-piracy measure. CodeMeter takes up residence in your System Preferences pane and runs continuously, even when you are not using Avenger. Read the CodeMeter Users Agreement, look at your System Preferences pane, look at your Activity Monitor. It’s terrifying. People got to be nuts to install this spy-ware in their systems.
On top of that, with my system running Mac OS Catalina 10.15.5 and Logic Pro X 10.5.0, I was getting all kinds of warnings and notifications to contact the VPS Avenger developer to solve the problem, but it was never solved.
In conclusion: Yes, a whole lot of people are trying to resale it. and Yes, VPSAvenger is way over-priced. The graphic design is not HD, the factory presets are ancient and the expansion preset packs are too expensive. Also, be careful with the VPS Avenger so-called technical support, they will offer laughable advise such as “Use Google Chrome” or “Yes, we strongly recommend against doing that, but go ahead and do that.” Also, they will either ignore you or actually block you. For me, it was a $199.00 USD mistake, which I think I’ll never recover.
Its a Vengence Sound product. All their stuff is pretty expensive. Tho it works and Vengeance Sound has made some of the worlds most popular soundpacks; Vengeance Essential Clubsounds 1-5.
Having to keep renewing the licence is the problem.
When it blocks you will receive no help from the company.
FACT...
Too much add-feeling
To the question of Should I buy it? I would answer: Most definitely NOT! VPS Avenger has morphed into a useless over-designed synth wanna be. Very low definition GUI, ancient factory presets, loaded with duplicate inferior modules such as step sequencer, mixer and arp, easily surpassed in functionality by the ones you already find on your DAW.
Plus, it NEVER works consistently. Don't be mislead by the youtubers reviewing a demo version of the synth, it's a whole lot different than a fully licensed version. And worse, these reviewers never tell you that in order to use Avenger, you need to be running the CodeMeter app, a real source of constant headaches.
Do yourself a favor and don't come anywhere close to VPS Avenger.
We didn’t experience this. And Yeuda is using the full version of the synth here
VPS AVENGER IS A SCAM PLUGIN
why
@@bariloche1988 because he found out he had to pay for it...